Games that made you lose faith in the franchise

how did they knock it of the park with M2 and then make this?

I'm guessing during Empire engine development lifecycles, good programmers left the company

I'm so sad Bros, it could've been so amazing... Best setting for this style of game and they messed it up.
Empire 2 when???

with current engine? fucking never ever

I am right on board bro. Especially after how SICK shogun 2 was. The multiplayer and campaign were both so fun. Right now i am installing Medieval 2 to play the LOTR mod again :^)

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This game was truly awful. I'll never understand the appeal. Especially visually. Just gross.

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Empire was the last good Total War game
Shogun was decent, but the agents were too OP and fucked the balance

>Empire was the last good Total War game
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Empires was more of a shit show.

All Total War games after Medieval 2 have been a completely different dev team.

Lol.

user, I respect liking Empire for idiosyncratic reasons, and even liking it more than all the games that came after it, but you can't in good faith call it the last good Total War game. It was and remains a broken, buggy mess, with barely functional AI, bizarre, game-breaking glitches, and really questionable design decisions.

If you tell me you can boot up and play through an unmodded Empire game without encountering units spazzing out and refusing to shoot, enemy artillery crews charging your front lines, the entire clusterfuck of siege battles, and so forth, I'm going to have to call you either a liar or someone who hasn't actually played Empire recently and is letting nostalgia cloud his memory.

My autism levels arent high enough for this shit

rome 2 total war honestly

The warscape engine

>It was and remains a broken, buggy mess, with barely functional AI, bizarre, game-breaking glitches, and really questionable design decisions.
lmao what
i play it vanilla, almost 600 hours in my steam and I had it for several years before i got steam, so i have probably at least a thousand hours in it and have never had a glitch, a bug, or anything at all break. the AI is as functional as any of the total war AI, which are all hot trash, but that's a series wide issue.
questionable design decisions? there are a few. one province france comes to mind, but no game doesn't have any of those issues, and the total war series as a whole is chock full of them in every game.

I'm in awe. I last played it unmodded two years ago and encountered constant bugs, with AI climbing up and descending walls, standing outside settlements to get shot, AI diplomacy constantly offering to buy half my empire for five turns of military access, cavalry that simply did nothing, units that have a single model get caught on terrain and rendered nonfunctional for the rest of the battle, and numerous other severe flaws. You're the first person I've ever spoken to who has said they've never encountered any of these issues.

never had any of those.
the worst diplo AI shit I've seen is them offering to trade random shitty provinces for my good provinces when I ask for alliances but that's it
and that's nothing compared to "please do no attack us, accept or we will attack" from Rome 1, and no one will dare say Rome 1 is a bad game

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Rome II was actually pretty enjoyable, it just had a rough start. Not that that's okay to let happen but you know, it's currently not impacting the game anymore.

Well, you gave me your proof so I'll give you mine. Like I said, I last played unmodded two years ago. I can't speak to what you experienced in the game but I know what I did. I respect what Empire was trying to do but I found it incredibly difficult to continue playing because of how many bugs I encountered.

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