Why does nintendo even keep making these games? They don't sell that well. They are PR nightmares. It doesn't seem like Miyamoto or anyone at Nintendo even really cares.
And yet they keep coming. Meanwhile franchises like Pikmin get put on the backburner. Popular opinion led me to believe that Pikmin has been put on hold simply because it doesnt sell well, but every Pikmin title besides Hey Pikmin has sold more than every Paper Mario game.
And Pikmin is just the first example that comes to my head. The same can be said for F-Zero as well.
Only shows what Nintendo shipped. But even then, it shows nintendo is clearly losing hope in this franchise.
Christopher Russell
It's homogeny, they can just cough up update patches, and sell them as entirely new games, without any real incentive to improve the core flaws of the game.
Lincoln Perez
They keep changing the gameplay systems. If they really wanted them homogenous it'd just be like Mario & Luigi where the gameplay is copy-pasted.
Matthew Bailey
It's because Tanabe took the "new gimmick = good" idea from Miyamoto too literally. There were a huge ammount of way he could have built upon 64's gameplay, but he feels compelled to always try something new just because, and it does feel like he just thinks "wouldn't X be cool" instead of "will X be cool 20 hours later?"
Leo Johnson
As a kid I really wanted them to make a Luigi game based on is story youtu.be/hoG5KWzFc_I
Bentley Martinez
they're probably super easy to push out given that the last 3 games look nearly identical, with sticker star only standing out the most because it doesn't have the garbage double outline because "dude paper" the battle system is the only thing that really changes from each game and they somehow manage to make actually battling pointless 3 games straight writing is basic self-aware r/humor-tier stuff and/or "lol paper" environments are just generic areas seen a million times over in mario but now with an arts and crafts look music is good but pretty samey lately characters are the same designs we see all the time in mainline mario except mario's newest gimmick partner that's related to the theme/title of the game it's a 0 effort franchise that sells pretty well
Luke Diaz
Why did they ban OCs based on classic designs? Why can't Paper Mario make new characters that fit in while Mario & Luigi and Mario Tennis did so without any issues whatsoever? Why is Paper Mario the only Mario franchise that gets stuck with shitty gimmicks every game while the others stay close to what made them popular? Why did Tanabe take over an RPG franchise when he hates RPGs? Why is NuPM the only franchise not to return to form?
Modern Paper Mario is an anomaly itself. Every decision that led to this is confusing and doesn't make sense.
Anthony Thompson
>They are PR nightmares. nintendo doesn't have "PR nightmares." they have too many bootlicking simps who defend everything they shit out.
Matthew Murphy
Maybe because they like them?
Xavier Walker
Everyone is quick to blame Miyamoto or whatever but the biggest culprit is probably just laziness on IS/Tanabe's part. A SHITLOAD of stuff (enemy roster, set pieces, bosses, etc.) get reused between the three games.
Juan Moore
Paper Mario is made by Intelligent Systems, so it requires very little of Nintendo's own resources. Pikmin is made by one of Nintendo's in-house studios and F-Zero GX was made by Sega.
Jason Evans
God damn, just remake TTYD and be done with it. Fuck it, just reskin the entire game and claim it's new. I'd buy it again and it'll suck less than any of the previous entries since then.
Juan Harris
they'd suck the soul out of it and replace battles with gimmicky puzzle shit
Jackson Martinez
>They are PR nightmares
Jayden Ross
>remake a timeless game For what purpose?
Kayden Thomas
It'll be less embarrassing than anything they've put out since then.
Jaxson Wright
You mean they'd "innovate" it
Noah Young
just port it that way theres no way they can fuck it up, just sell it for idk £15-20 and watch it sell better than the previous 3 games combined
Actually, the highest selling Paper Mario game is Super Paper Mario at 4.23 million units.
The only one that didn't get over a million was Colour Splash so far, and SPM and SS both blew past two mil
Robert Robinson
*can't
Thomas Davis
They don’t sell well? How are they still in business after all these years then
Noah Bell
Paper Mario makes Mario & Luigi's mustaches dark brown instead of black like other portrayals.
Andrew Thomas
Well now it's most definitely Fire Emblem money.
Isaac Roberts
Read that recent article about PM. IS has it's hands tied with weird restrictions in the Mario universe that they didn't have in the original 3 games. The other big problem is, of course, trying to "make sure casuals can play too" by removing RPG elements.
Landon Collins
I don't think they had the restrictions until this game. AlphaDream was still doing whatever with the M&L series until the BiS remake in 2018, that's when we saw the old BiS concept art altered to make sure Mario and Luigi's designs were exactly inline with their depictions in everything else.
Logan Parker
Tanabe is a bitch and these decisions are his fault
Camden Roberts
Color Splash was a massive flop.
Isaac Davis
Is there any sales info for Origami King?
Bentley Collins
>Why does nintendo even keep making these games? Playing it safe
Nintendo's rule of no Mario OCs would either forbid a TTYD re-release or give us a butchered remake ala Superstar Saga where they replace all of the unique Toads, Bob-ombs, etc. with their base designs.
Andrew Cooper
as much as i like it i hope it flops i want old paper mario back and poor sales is a good way to get that message across
Dominic Cooper
Jap first-week physical sales only. It probably sold a lot more via digital.
