ITT: spin-off games nobody asked for
ITT: spin-off games nobody asked for
Gabriel Jenkins
Grayson Wood
Valkyria Revolution
Gabriel Wood
do you jerk off while goku fights your bully
Luke Clark
Why is Vegeta described as a master tactician if he's always getting his ass handed to him?
Austin Perry
Same reason as Piccolo.
Isaac Collins
Piccolo the other master tactician also thinks vegeta is smart so it must be true
Jordan Flores
The same reason he's still a prince when:
>the Saiyan kingdom/empire is no more
>he technically should be king
>Trunks should be prince
Logan Collins
GET HIM OUT OF MY HEAD AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEE
Nolan Scott
BROLY CULO
Charles Anderson
Because Vegeta's biggest flaws are his ego and stubbornness. He throws himself into fights he can't win because he assumes he's guaranteed victory. When Vegeta accepts that he can't win with brute force, when he swallows his pride and uses his head, that's when he shines. Look at the early Namek saga, he knows he's outnumbered and outgunned, so he plays it smart, picks off his enemies one by one, and steals the dragon balls right under Freeza's non-existent nose. It's only when he started thinking that he was a Super Saiyan that he went full retard.
Nathan Jackson
>vegeta’s never been one to misread an opponent’s strength
He does this literally every single story arc and gets his ass busted against every major villain.
Julian Ramirez
"Vegeta's
>gets his gut punched in by Kaioken Goku
never
>jobs to suprise Zarbon transformation
been one
>planted in the ground by Recoome
to misread
>gets his shit pushed in by Final Form Frieza
an opponent's
>gets both arms broken by 18
strength
>laughs in Perfect Cell and Fat Buu
God, Toyotaro is a hack.
Jonathan Collins
I've read Dragon Ball Z from 27 to 42. Is Namek saga worth getting into?
Jonathan Davis
He doesn't underestimate his enemies, he overestimates himself. He thought he could beat Goku because he thought an elite could always beat a low-class wretch. He thought he could beat Freeza because he thought he was a Super Saiyan (and note that he was fucking terrified by the prospect of fighting Freeza before making that assumption). He thought he could beat the Androids because he actually was a Super Saiyan and wasn't just drunk on power but white girl wasted on power. He thought he could beat Cell because he was a Super Swole Saiyan.
Jaxon Morgan
Yes.
Jace Brown
There's no manga called dragon ball z
Kayden Wright
He was kind of smart in Namek.
Hunter Peterson
All those cases still involve misjudging the power of his opponents AND overstimating his own power. Don't overthink it user, Vegeta is made to job
Brayden White
>never been one to misread an opponent's strength
Parker Turner
bayonetta and dark souls
Cooper Brooks
>All those cases still involve misjudging the power of his opponents AND overstimating his own power
The latter lead to the former. Vegeta knew how powerful his opponents were, he just thought he was stronger.
Cameron Peterson
You would think he would learn from those experiences and be more cautious in fights, but nope. For all the character growth and power wank he got in DBS (he was significantly weaker than Goku at the end of the Buu arc) he would overcome this character flaw but it still sticks like a sore thumb.
Parker Green
Borderlands: Pre-Sequel.
Tim was good boy.
Justin Wright
>mfw kneelgeta became the new yamcha
Juan Butler
It just keeps happening!
Death by Degrees. It could have worked but Namco had no idea how to handle it.
Carter Nelson
He has changed, subtly. Note how he derided Top for sacrificing his principles for power, a decision Vegeta himself once made. And how he obtained a new powerup by refusing to abandon his principles, and deciding to do things his way instead of trying to play catch-up with Goku again. Yeah, he kept throwing himself at Jiren until he literally could not stand anymore, but he wasn't doing so out of foolish pride, but because he decided to fight for those he cares about until the bitter end. And note how he encouraged Cabba to become stronger than anyone, even stronger than Vegeta, when once upon a time Vegeta couldn't stand the idea of anyone being stronger than him.
Jaxon Ward
>el jobhan de calvo la blanco
Jonathan Wilson
Namek was fucking awesome.
Good twists and turns, strategies and outsmarting since Goku wasn't there for 75% of it to just punch away the baddies.
Ethan Sanders
Yeah I guess those are some good points. The execution is still poor though (Blugeta's Final Explosion felt so cheap and his ascension to SSG and SSGSS being off-screen felt wasted to me) but some of your points are good.
Jaxson Jones
Krillin and Kid Gohan had such a good dynamic. Them taking the spotlight with Piccolo in the Garlic Jr. Saga is the only reason I even consider it decent enough to rewatch despite the overall low quality of the filler arc.
Anthony Mitchell
That's not an exclusively Vegeta issue, that's a Saiyan issue with being arrogant and drunk on their power.
Just like Gohan vs cell and Gohan vs buu.
Brayden Thompson
Hell, look at Battle of Gods. Vegeta willingly humiliated himself by doing that bingo dance so Beerus wouldn't destroy the world. Can you imagine pre-Buu saga Vegeta ever doing something like that?
Leo Edwards
In DBZ and Super, how many enemies did Goku actually manage to beat by himself in a 1v1?
Just Frieza right? He didn't beat Raditz, didn't beat Vegeta, didn't beat cell, didn't beat buu by himself.
Josiah Sanchez
Yeah, but in Vegeta's case it's magnified by his status as a Saiyan elite and growing up under Freeza's rule. He felt that he had to prove himself.