Memes aside, was he right?

He was right. The problem is that the people are npcs. They don't care if their country goes to hell or what happens as long as they get their gibsmedats.

I guarantee you no matter who you are you will bend the knee to anyone as long as they give you food, video games, and some living quarter even if that person is taking away your freedoms.

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I don't think I would want to live in Armstrong's America. Sounds like an every man for himself shitshow.

Meme or be memed, Jack.
Zig Forums taught me that.

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muh might makes right is never actually the right way to do things, but he had some points

if he was so strong then why would he need a mech in the first place?

giant spider-mech is more terrifying/awe-inspiring than some buff politican.

didn't he really wanted the mess the place so it can look like a terrorist attack? the news already spread raiden's infiltration when excelsius arises, but i bet with it blowing everything up, the evidence of being set up will be gone

He had very good points but overall no.

good

Being Irish the "memes" explains the whole shit in the Northern Ireland. You see this in America now.

the jews were just going to fill them with lies anyway

Armstrong used the "we're a lot alike you and i" cliche to an actual result. Raiden left the fight with a bit of Armstrong's philosophy. He was no longer using excuses to make his might right. On that note, requesting the pic of Raiden saying that his sword is a tool of justice and the every boss laughing at him.

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Yes. But like all extremists, he correctly identified a problem and then promptly came up with a completely insane and impractical solution while refusing to listen to reason or attempt any form of compromise or discourse.

libertarianism is a meme

NICE KNIFE.

If you Codec call during that fight, they go into detail on exactly why. It's an intimidation thing, and the gear actually does not have much of a practical purpose.

A lot of people seem to miss that MGR is literally about Raiden realizing that Armstrong is right, and the only way to actually enforce your morals and sense of justice in the world is through violence.

Armstrong was only wrong because he was a batshit insane warmonger while Raiden fights for justice

>It's not actually a Metal Gear, they just called it that for branding purposes, but don't think about it too hard dude, just enjoy the fight

MGR had such great codecs but it has the least amount of required calls so you don't actually think to ever use it

I still don't know what his endgame was. Recreate the wild west? How do you actually create a country where the physically strong rule the weak, even as president? How do you enforce that and prevent people just inevitably re-establishing the norm?
At least Funny Valentine actually had the means to do what he wanted in his hands.

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people say he’s like big boss, but I see more Gray Fox in him then anyone else.

He wanted to reboot society so that it would be completely free of the Patriots AI's lingering social engineering. The Patriots were shut down in MGS 4, but people continued to follow the trends and rhetoric that system established, especially the technological forever war the world economy became dependent upon.
Armstrong wanted human society to course correct in a drastic way so that it could fully become dictated by human beings again, not blindly continue the "memes" of a dead computer system.

>I'z is da strongest so I iz da boss

We basically become Orks.

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Armstrongs views were logical but would have resulted in the deaths of so many people who aren't strong whatsoever

no but he is charismatic enough that it doesn't matter

Exactly. If he wasn't going for a world that was foreshadowed in the music for the Ray fight first thing in the game, he likely would have succeeded in turning Raiden to his side. Probably the greatest irony is that Raiden wanted people to be free and the weak protected. Armstrong made it clear that Raiden would need to beat down others and enforce his authority at the expense of other people's freedom. So why bother with having the weak, freedom for all!