>In chess, there is a general consensus among players and theorists that the player who makes the first move (White) has an inherent advantage. Since 1851, compiled statistics support this view; White consistently wins slightly more often than Black, usually scoring between 52 and 56 percent.
same as counter strike you play both T and CT in a match
Robert Long
what about the game itself, how would you change it so black had an equal advantage to white, for example. if black got to move a piece and a pawn its first turn
Cameron Reyes
just play two sets
Jonathan Moore
On the first move white's pawns can only move 1 space forward. Fixed it
Sebastian Price
BLACK LIVES MATTER
Nathan Adams
Why fix what isn't broken?
Joshua Brooks
it's simple, you just give the white queen to the black king
Josiah Perez
There is nothing wrong with the game, you simply play a set instead of just one game like in every game that should be taken seriously.
Nicholas Anderson
You don't. You play two rounds
Matthew Torres
Here where i live white is usualy the better player and black is usuly the underdog, maybe that influences the wr
Samuel Brown
First turn advantage actually happens in a LOT of traditional games. Lots of nu-board games will have mechanics built in to mitigate it by slightly limiting what the first player can do on their first turn. But chess turns are so discrete that even a small change like would probably give Black an advantage instead. So I guess you're stuck doing a best of three where if you play a third game and use some metric like amount of time taken to decide who gets White in the third game.
Jayden Ortiz
make it so you cant draw a card on the first turn
Eli Morris
What if they both move at the same time? That would fix a lot of the game.
Easton Lopez
You are the kind of cancer that ruins any game.
Hunter Morales
>pre-arranges his land cards oh, you want me to shuffle? Sure thing, I'll just do the pile method, you don't mind right?
Dylan Cook
And what happens if each player wins 1 round?
Noah James
I like seeing the mind games near the end of bullet games with less than a second to go and they must pre-move every single piece. I'm not sure how this would play out but if each player was forced to pre-move the first 2 moves it might be interesting. At the very least you should be able to make white defend with his first move if you predict he will play e4.
As it's turn-based, the only true way to balance this would be to have sets in which one player must have a 2 game lead to win. I.e. a best of 3 proceeding as (1-0, 1-1, 2-1) would not constitute a win, but (1-0, 2-0) would. This means the player needs to win as both white and black to win. This might mean sets could last for literal years, but such is the way of balance. /thread
Wyatt Edwards
Add fog of war and units with different fields of view.
Jacob Ortiz
white first turn, black next 2 turns, then back to normal turn taking.
Jose Walker
There is no need to fix it. The advantage comes from being able to pick the opening you are most familiar with. Blacks first move is inherently more strong than whites because black has more information when making their move.
why is everyone so buttblasted about this? i think it's an interesting question. the few times i play chess with my father, it can sometimes take two hours to finish a game. and then none of us wants to play another for a week.
Jaxson Moore
Pro chess is so nuanced that random first moves would fuck one player and give the other a huge advantage a lot of the time.
Joshua Green
A loaded question, mr. basedak.
Michael Rivera
Change the color to yellow vs black.
Landon Walker
>How do we balance it bros? You don't. The essence of a game is imperfect; some of the challenge will always come from the rules themselves. Expecting a perfectly fair game is unreasonable. If you want that, you may as well play rock-paper-scissors.
Chase Diaz
I don't know man, this board in particular people get so mad over nothing its weird.
Luis Gomez
Coin toss calls who goes first. There. That's it. Mods delete this shit thread and move along.
Because people who know anything about chess know that White's first move advantage is so inconsequential in any game below the professional level (where they obviously have measures to ensure equality) that it's just not worth thinking about.
Eli Reyes
There's a recent a paper by DeepMind exploring various alternative rules for Chess. Some of the variants were closer to even, some had less draws. All are still draw-ish, though, so with best play they probably are draws just like Classical Chess probably is.
its a very very very old argument that has been tread over tons of times for people who care about chess. I think going over it plenty of times is just tedious.
Benjamin Howard
thanks for this user, appreciate it
Jayden Moore
Why are there no african chess masters?
Blake Gonzalez
>How do we deal with the black problem >Replace 'em with whites wtf I love Yoko Ono now