>that atrocious level design
and boomers say this game holds up lmao
That atrocious level design
Anthony Torres
Adam Campbell
Most DOOM era FPS have atrocious level design
The Quake era introduced better level design
Connor Perez
this game devolve into key hunting most of the level like doom does?
and hows the sequel?
Jason Carter
>this game devolve into key hunting most of the level like doom does?
Nope, it barely even has keys. It's a lot more modern like later shooters, OP is a shitposting zoomzoom.
>and hows the sequel?
Better, but I prefered the visuals of DF1. The "early 3D" is janky as hell visually.
Thankfully nowadays that can be remedied somewhat.
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Blake Smith
It was pretty good actually. More varied than most shooters of that era which were usually a bunch of repetitive corridors. in DF every map was distinct and memorable. After all those years I can stil remember certain parts like sewers or prison
Nathan Nelson
use the automap
Hudson Cox
I was very disappointed Dark Forces 2 had almost 0 music in the game. The shitty midi tracks of star wars tunes in DF1 were great.
Camden Torres
It had a lot of atmosphere and had just the right amount of grittiness for a SW game. Kyle Katarn was always either lonely or outgunned. You never felt safe or comfortable, except for a couple brief places.
Jace Lopez
those midi tracks in DF sounded incredible on gravis ultrasound. probably the best use of midi i've heard in a game
Michael Barnes
No one ever said that this game holds up. No one even bothered making a source port.
Ethan Bailey
The lightsaber bosses are absolute garbage though. Pretty good schütgaem though
Xavier Nelson
The first two levels are great. Then I never beat the sewer level.
Levi Martin
The 1 vs 1 ones are fine, it's the Ornstein and Smough one that's pure cancer.
Joseph Nguyen
>Then I never beat the sewer level.
Unironically the ONLY bad level in the game that's basically a casual filter. All the levels after it are more in style of 2nd level, just more expansive obviously.
Jayden Foster
could be because the source code has never been released?
Cameron Evans
You philistine. You uncultured swine. DF has fantastic level design, as does its sequel. The levels are sprawling, employ verticality to great effect, contain environmental storytelling cues and naturalistic design...
Caleb Walker
There was, at some point long ago, an attempt to port/remake it in Jedi Academy's modified Quake 3 engine. I think they made three levels.
Carson Reed
I'm pretty sure there are Doom clones with good fanmade HD ports, source code or not.
Hudson Morgan
>No one even bothered making a source port.
Why are you lying?
There's two.
DarkXL which got abandoned because the author got cancer and died, but can still be played to completion with only a few minor issues all of which are fixable, biggest of them being that you'll just need to noclip through a door after final boss because it doesn't open.
And then there's the new source port currently being worked on.
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Jordan Wilson
compared to its contemporaries, Dark Forces' levels were very sensible and realistic.
Jonathan Perry
Doom source code was released in the late 90s which made the job much easier.
There was a mod for jedi academy which was supposed to be a very detailed remake of df. It took years to make the first six levels and was abandoned at that point. It was much more ambitious than a doom port for wad files. DF modders were recreating all textures and maps from scratch, and iirc even cutscenes from the original game
Chase Davis
Dark Forces 2 is fucking sweet, dude. I just replayed it and the controls, shooting, and level design are all great. Anyone who says otherwise was just filtered and couldn't find their way around without being constantly told what to do like a child.
Logan Wilson
DF2 has music all through the game. It's remixed film music but still, it's fitting.
Adam Miller
I dropped it at the sewer level.
Christian Mitchell
>I was very disappointed Dark Forces 2 had almost 0 music in the game.
What the fuck are you talking about? Sounds like you played the bugged and broken Steam version without patching it.
Luis Myers
if you pirated it or bought digital then you'd be missing the CD that has the music on it.
It's not that great though, just rehashed tracks from the movies.
Matthew Ramirez
Filtered little zoomie bitch
Jayden Torres
Your impotent rage makes me lol. Retarded boomer.
Jose Butler
Filtered little zoomie bitch.
Dominic Wright
What didn't you like about it? The levels were pretty straight forward and not too maze-like to get lost in.
Gabriel Brooks
Not him but the Sewer level is very maze-like and extremely easy to get lost in, it's pretty much the only level in the game that's like this and is effectively a casual filter so I can forgive it for that, but it's genuinely a bad and not fun level at all.
Not a single other level in the game stood out to me as bad in any way other than this one.
Oliver Reed
Every fps before Half Life(and goldeneye) has atrocious nonsensical level design. I quit falling for boomer fps recommendations and came to grips the genre before Half Life was just complete shit.
Jeremiah Jackson
Exquisite bait
Lincoln Roberts
Yeah, I'll concede that. It's also full water with enemies you can't kill until they sprout up in your face.
Carter Cook
>sneaks into and shoots his way through Imperial bases to blow them up
>neuters the Hutts
>raids the imperial security bureau
>hijacks a correllian corvette from a refueling base, then uses THAT to infiltrate the imperial flagship because it swings by the super secret base that's building the super droid stormtroopers
They didn't even need to make him a Jedi, he was badass enough as he was.
Asher Carter
Dark Force is pretty "eh" but you're telling me that Dark Forces 2 isn't fucking amazing?
Gabriel Myers
Yeah I love retro FPS but this game just sucks. Its ugly as fuck, the maps are boring, and they implemented console-style lives instead of quicksaves.
Just play mods for Doom/Quake/Blood/Duke/Shadow Warrior/etc if you're starved for FPS action.