This is what Skylofters turned into in the Twilight Princess timeline

Contrarianism, TP is the FF8 of Zelda

I'll never understand how people can't overlook nostalgia to admit when they're wrong, or at least admit that their opinion isn't objective
Sunshine is my favorite 3d mario but over the years I've absolutely seen the massive amount of flaws as a direct result of the game's messy development. Whenever I see people defending it as the best game it blows my mind that these people likely haven't touched these games since they came out

the feathers look like titties

I think they're supposed to be nipples

Yes this sounds about right. The fan base was very divided when WW came out, it was too 'cartoony' and not 'mature' enough. Some people (retards) claimed OoT looked better, and that they wanted the Link from Soul Calibur II. So for TP they went in the exact opposite direction, making a dark, gritty, brown Zelda game.

Looking back on it now TP looks bland and buggy while WW still looks beautiful. Its major flaw, namely that the game devolves into an annoying fetch quest once you have to start collecting triforce shards, was one that game reviewers even often ignored while spewing 'hurr cartoons durr kiddy'

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They never revist the games from their childhood. That simple

The 00's were peak "gameplay? no dude, look at the visuals, that's the issue" and it's hilarious how shit the games aged that tried to be dark or realistic
There's an alternate timeline where WW wasn't rushed and had another year of development and the triforce quest was better, it had another couple dungeons, and much cooler, more fleshed out islands. Maybe if they hadn't had so much pushback on WW they would've made a true sequel and it would've been kino. Ah well.
What really gets me is they ruined toon link with the mediocre DS games

>nipples on a bird
>nipples on the bird's NECK

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>Always do the exact opposite of what Wind Waker did
That actually was the edict that controlled the entire game's development, yes.
Turns out it was complete dogshit and easily the worst Nintendo-developed Zelda title because pandering to whiny fanboys is a terrible way to develop a game.

>it's another contrarian Zig Forums thread where fat neets think unpopular means you're right

I replay TP every other year (and I also do this with most of the Zelda games) and I love it, it's very solid

TP has my favorite artstyle of any Zelda. Not necessarily character design and the limitations of Gamecube/Wii are apparent, but I loved what it was going for.

Contrarian needs to be banned next. So NPC’s have to actually defend shit games rather than resorting to ad homieum

The fuck?

>ban everything I don't like

I liked it. I still like it. Played through about four times. Simple as that

It's fine. It's not very good, but as far as 3d Zelda goes, it's okay.

tp looks nice. feels like a natural successor to majoras mask. needs to be a bit more colorful though

>Feels like a successor to MM
Not with it's bloom and worse textures and fucking ugly character designs it ain't
Only good thing it gave us was Midna

the bloom and washed out colors were bad, i agree.
>ugly characters
yeah, like i said, in the vein of MM. it captured some of that weirdness.

It's really not an ad-hominem if it's a reasonable assessment of a statement.
Standing up and saying a shitty piece of shovelware is good and that "nobody else gets it" is motivated by the same sort of asshole-ish need to feel special as conspiracy theorists and fedora-tipping atheists.
Contrarians do not deserve deeper or more meaningful arguments or rhetoric because their love of [shitty game] is entirely rooted in their desire to feel different and special.
TP fans are contrarians. They love a shitty garbage game with no redeeming qualities because it's a shitty game and they can jerk off over disagreeing with people about it.

I never talk about zelda on here so it might surprise you that i had no idea people disliked TP so much. There were some lame design choices towards the end, like the rod and the spinner, but honestly ive always kind of liked it. My opinion is untainted by whatever slapfight has been raging on here without my knowledge

OoT >= MM > BotW = TP > WW > SS
I hope someday the prototype/beta TP stuff leaks out

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wtf I'm horny now

>TP
>no redeeming qualities
I'm guessing you didn't even reach the first dungeon. The game has lots of charming level designs in pretty much every dungeon, lots of cool setpieces like the western showdown, snowboarding with a yeti or sumo wrestling Gorons, some pretty good side content like the fishing hole, Rollgoal and Cave of Ordeals, at least one of the series' best puzzles in the form of the Sacred Grove statue puzzle, and tries harder than pretty much any other Zelda in the swordplay department. Never mind the little touches like swinging while running and the sheathing animations. I have no clue how you possibly came to the conclusion that TP, or any mainline Zelda for that matter, has no redeeming qualities. You are shitposting.

Like every 3D entry after OoT, it's a love/hate affair. As many people like TP as there are that hate it, and the vocal populations of both are about equal. Who you end up seeing in a thread depends largely on the tone of the OP and the course of conversation.

>BOTW or TP over WW

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I don't think that's true. TP was disappointing to me as well and I think WW is infinitely better, but calling it a 'shitty garbage game' is a bit much. The characters were nice, it had a lot of great unique weapons like the ball and chain, spinner (even if it was only really used in its specific dungeon) and clawshots, the horseback combat was cool, etc.

Rollgoal is fucking garbage though holy shit.

>Twilight Princess
Better then rushed Wind Waker and baby's first Skyward Sword

yes
the only thing WW has going in its favor is the artstyle