why did Valve intentionally bring the game as close as possible to the turbo/custom mode amalgam it is nowadays? > roulette-like neutral items from jungle (and they are also free) which give absurd benefits past the 37' mark. they also can be sent base from anywhere you are without the need of a courier, which is ridiculous > among other free shit: from gold (from runes to the surplus gold you get from assists and stacking) to exp (tomes and outposts) > each and every faggot get an automatic and auto-upgradeable courier so they can spam regen in the first 10 minutes. this shit is straight from turbo > alongside this, free wards. god forbid someone play support and be selfless with his gold nowadays > armor and HP regen aura-giving towers > memey changes to some items and heroes: sven flying with his hammer, pocket riki, lycan biting others and giving them ult, abyssal blade with a blink strike... > free TPs along with a TP-dedicated slot
they also bothered making a bunch of reddit-tier changes which shit upon the game > random got reworked into shit > techies reworked into shit > jungle isn't a viable strat any longer > ranked roles > social credit score system in the form of reports
You had to post this when there is a patch around the corner~?
Jacob Myers
shut the fuck up boomer
Andrew Sanchez
>why do ppl defend this? because it's the best patch just kill pa sven and this patch is fine
Zachary Mitchell
>> jungle isn't a viable strat any longer and that's a good thing. The real downfall is the stat changes which ruined the balance of int heroes and talents.
Landon Roberts
is the wards really free now? sounds like they just really copying LoL which isn't a bad thing, imo wildrift is the best moba right now, fixed the shittinies of LoL.
The amount of patches constantly alienates both the older and the newer players. But then again the player count is still pretty healthy so no it's not really on a downfall.
Jacob Morris
shit is going to become even more reddit-tier with the patch. just you see > free sentries as well (with maybe half of the true sight area) > resigning chat command for ranked games with "gg" > jungle even more of a butchered shithole > CS-esque report system, with reddit-approved faggots overseeing it back to r*ddit AND league faggots
Samuel Evans
How can you possibly say new techies isn't better than old techies?
And yea neutral items were a misstake. You are used to them now but honestly the game was better without them.
Since they removed the sideshop, there really was a need for more than 1 courier in the game so that if you killed your lane opponent they wouldnt suddenly come back with way more networth than you because you can't ship anything out to yourself. So that's honetly a fine change aswell (fighting over coureir was not fun).
I'm fine with bounty runes as they give an advantage to the team controlling the map.
Matthew Evans
t. 3k shitter don't talk about this game if you are not 5k minimum jungle is fine
Mason Stewart
go back to /d2g/ PSG
Grayson Rodriguez
Is this a joke because all the things you've listed have been a net positive to my enjoyment of dota
Landon White
Neutral items are dogshit but most of the other changes were needed. You can be an oldfag about the crow and free wards, but the truth is that support was underplayed for a reason.
>TP dedicated slot What is wrong with this? Its just QoL and imo only makes things nicer.
>ranked roles would you rather the dogshit role poaching trash we had for years?
>social credit system literally who cares just ignore it and it will never effect you
>Its just QoL and imo only makes things nicer. faggot
Oliver Edwards
>random got reworked into shit I agree >techies reworked into shit techies is as cancerous as he always has been, they straight up should have removed him >jungle isn't a viable strat any longer Good, I remember having to flame every other game some dipshit going jungle LC or axe and solo losing the game from hero select >ranked roles literally what's wrong with this? >social credit score system in the form of reports Your social credit only goes down if you are leaving games or getting reported every game. There is no flag system that instantly bans you if you type nigger. And to get reported in this third world infested shithole of a game you either need to be feeding every game or to be constantly spamming the chat like a faggot and you definetly deserve to play with other obnoxius faggots like yourself if you have a low social credit score
we know you are projecting your faggotry OP but you could at least try to hide it
Austin Edwards
>they straight up should have removed him faggot
Daniel Nelson
I stopped playing when they killed Skeleton King But I already hated all the changes back then
Levi Russell
> and that's a good thing MAYBE if you are a redditor who cares about his virtual points in DotA and who used to cry weekly to Valve about LCs ruining your games jungling is a fun and low-effort strategy mostly used when you want to chill in the game and not bother with metafaggots spamming shit at you in lane. if junglers were punished only by losing the game (and I do understand this) I wouldn't have a problem with this; I am mostly bothered by the fact people have unlmtd reports in the beginning for those who do not follow "roles". went to jungle within the first 3 minutes? get fucked with 4 reports > side shop and couriers yeah, removal of the side shops was a mistake as well. five couriers being in the game does indeed remove most of the toxicity associated with it one but one important aspect from the dota's teamplay was to share the courier and guarantee almost exclusivity to cores. managing to handle a hard lane with as most as the 700 networth you left base with was a pleasure many of us could feel > bounty still free shit
Jonathan Walker
The biggest issue in dota is being able to tittle-tattle on fellow players.
Jackson Wilson
>jungling is a fun and low-effort strategy mostly used when you want to chill in the game and not bother with metafaggots spamming shit at you in lane
oh no they are trying to win
Robert Rogers
> t. redditor > is that support was underplayed for a reason it is what it is. supports practically do not exist nowadays; they are just secondary cores with a little less farm priority >TP dedicated slot playing the game with a 5 item limit like back before and 6 items and a neutral does create a HUGE difference at all stages. they just made the game easier, basically > ranked roles so it is better to freeze DotA in time and limit the metagame potential by establishing roles? fuck that, players define roles in game >social credit system if you are a creepy autist who keeps silent in the game it will not affect you. shit is just cringy though and I like to talk
Michael Kelly
Jungling wasn't even a bad strat around 3-4k MMR because you would get way more gold and XP than you would have in the lane,since people in that bracket miss 70% of CS.With the right hero you could very well rotate in your safelane for easy kills and nobody ever punished solo offlaners since pulling and harassing where arcane techniques so your teammate who you "left alone" could get insane XP and probably more gold than he would in a dual lane with you.
Even then you had people chimping at you and throwing the game for no reason because "jungle bad",and you would be the first to be blamed for anything.
techies is actually not that bad if you go for suicide squad, build magic resistance and talents. one good axe call and they all die.
Christopher Davis
>techies is as cancerous as he always has been, they straight up should have removed him faggot techies is a beloved relic which should've been treasured. if you are a scrub who can't play around mines and buy true sight/pick zeus in 5% of the games, that is your problem > Good, I remember having to flame every other game some dipshit going jungle LC or axe and solo losing the game from hero select you aren't entitled to me playing the game how you want. get fucked > literally what's wrong with this? > every faggot wants to play core and no one wanted to play support > even faggots who would usually be bullied into picking a sup by the truest of CHADS > get a 40-minute queue for mid > what is the problem with RR?
> Your social credit only goes down if you are leaving games or getting reported every game. There is no flag system that instantly bans you if you type nigger. And to get reported in this third world infested shithole of a game you either need to be feeding every game or to be constantly spamming the chat like a faggot and you definetly deserve to play with other obnoxius faggots like yourself if you have a low social credit score if you do bother speaking up about someone's mistakes you WILL get reported, do not be dishonest. take a few of those and soon enough you will be in the trash-tier trenches
i dont get how you keep complaining about this shit. clearly youre not having fun not being able to chill and jungle anymore, so you can just stop playing. do you honestly think we will miss you? the real answer is no.
Asher Carter
playing safelane support is so bad now, you're always playing at a disadvantage and 9/10 unless you're playing undying or ogre magi you're gonna be the offlanes punching bag while your safelane carry farms
i miss the days of roamers/junglers when the laning phase was 1v1 for safelane supports
which is why if they really wanted to improve the quality of dota, they'd just completely remove the fourth position support
Ethan Jones
I don't play dota but it sounds like they made it more fun. How are any of those changes bad?
Andrew Moore
faggot you and 99.5% of all MMRfaggots will NEVER amount to anything in dota. cancerous and entitled attitudes such as yours are what ruined the game; people play primarily for FUN and nothing else (and no, being a rigid metafaggot isn't fun for anyone) unfortunately not only me but most people that made dota great are steadily leaving sunk cost, probably how? I only managed to get a 6 month one by zeroing my behavior score true chads found rushing a blink as a jungle LC and killing your enemy mid was a high-yield skill few managed to get right
> I don't play dota but it sounds like they made it more fun. How are any of those changes bad? they reduced complexity overall and made it a 3x easier game specially designed to pander to e-sport watching faggots dota has always been a game described as way harder than its peers; now it specifically seeks to attract LOL-faggots
Landon Cruz
>how? Used sandbox stuff to get as much free compendium points as possible few years ago. Turned out to be the greatest sin of them all.
Oliver Reyes
I will take Jungling being rendered unviable if it means 2/1/2 can make a comeback. I am fucking tired of trilaning. It's not fucking fun. I miss having duos. I miss broing out with another dude top and dunking on their carry. I don't want to play support and simp for the carry for 15 mins only to be yelled at because I fucked up a pull or violated our restraining order and leeched too much XP.
Levi Gutierrez
it's that russian game?
Tyler Davis
but they increased complexity?
Nolan Jenkins
That game just isn't dota anymore, they ruined it
Carson Allen
its not a role, you dont understand what a role is dedicated jungler was and will always will be a griefing game losing faggot
>but they increased complexity? if you consider changing the game to that monstrosity turbo/custom mode amalgam pandering as much as possible to redditors and e-sport faggots then they did increase complexity. however, adding casual-tier mechanics will never sit well with me
