/run/ - Running General

Reposting from the archves for user edition!

If you see this thread archive, please repost, I can't do it alone. Pastebin of general for you lazooks.
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Couch to 5k:
runnersworld.com/uk/training/5km/a760067/six-week-beginner-5k-schedule/
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Weeb edition:
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Resources:
>fellrnr.com/wiki/Main_Page
>youtube.com/user/Vo2maxProductions
>Jack Daniels running formula
>metsperformance.com/blog/why-1km-repeats-with-short-rest-is-a-misguided-interval-set-an-introduction-into-work-rest-ratios

>Stretching
Read the fellrnr page on stretching, there are differing opinions on stretching in general.

>Before
Run for 1km to 3km and use 'lunge matrix' and leg swings as base and modify for personal needs. Dynamic, ballistic and static is all possible. You don't want to overdo it though.

>After
At least an hour after the run, do static stretches. Depends on personal needs. Also, replenish your electrolytes.

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Other urls found in this thread:

fellrnr.com/wiki/What_to_Look_for_in_Running_Shoes
jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=403120
ajs.sagepub.com/content/18/4/379.short
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16790540
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18550323
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9489830
journals.lww.com/acsm-csmr/Fulltext/2010/05000/Prevention_of_Running_Injuries.14.aspx
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FAQ:
>Can I run if I'm fat?
Yes, but it depends on height/weight/age/experience/prior injuries.

>Where do I start?
c25k (couch to 5 kilometers)

>What then?
Depends on your goals.

>I don't have any running goals, I just want to stay reasonably fit, what do?
Do cardio at least twice a week for 30-60min. No need for speedwork then.

>Will I lose all my gains?
No.

>Will I lose weight?
Maybe, depends on CICO.

>Can I do cardio on rest days?
Yes, stick to easy runs.

>Does running kill my [bodypart]?
No. Feel free to ask for the pasta with the studies.

>Why does my [bodypart] hurt?
Check your form, equipment, schedule. You might be old, overweight or a noob. Ask again, give more information.

>How do I improve my time over distance [distance]?
Probably more weekly miles. Maybe speedwork. You'd best stick to a plan. Either read Jack Daniels (highly recommended) or google for 'sub [time] [distance]', chose one of the plans and ask if it's any good. If it contains 4-7 days of running, 1-2 speedwork and 1 longrun it's probably alright.

>What shoes should I buy?
Depends on your terrain, weekly milage, weight etc.. In general all brands produce quality products. Read:
>fellrnr.com/wiki/What_to_Look_for_in_Running_Shoes

>What other equipment should I buy?
The most important data to control your training is probably heart rate and then pace. You best get a cheap garmin forerunner (or equivalent), so you can watch both during your run. A HR strap for your phone can do the trick, if you are short on money.

>Should I lift?
Yes, you want a strong core and legs. Diddies, Squats, Lunges, Trap Bar Diddies and core work. Depends on goals, schedule etc.

>What else should I know?
You are probably running too fast.

>What else should I do?
Partake in local 5k's,10k's and half marathons. They are fun, even if you are slow.

>muh knees!
jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=403120
>We did not find an increased prevalence of osteoarthritis among the runners. Our observations suggest, within the limits of our study, that long-duration, high-mileage running need not be associated with premature degenerative joint disease in the lower extremities.

ajs.sagepub.com/content/18/4/379.short
>a lifetime of long distance running at mileage levels comparable to those of recreational runners today is not associated with premature osteoarthrosis in the joints of the lower extremities

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16790540
>Long-distance running might even have a protective effect against joint degeneration

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18550323
>Long-distance running among healthy older individuals was not associated with accelerated radiographic OA. These data raise the possibility that severe OA may not be more common among runners.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9489830
>The presence of radiographic hip OA and the progression of radiographic knee OA was similar for older runners and nonrunners.

journals.lww.com/acsm-csmr/Fulltext/2010/05000/Prevention_of_Running_Injuries.14.aspx
>Increased training miles per week appears protective against knee injuries.

If I started running two weeks ago, how long should I wait to incorporate speed workouts in?

Thoughts on running while sore(DOMS) from strength training?

noob runner here, last week my lower calves have started to hurt, i'm not sure if this is because of my form or not, but the way I run i strike the pavement with the front of my foot (no contact with heels).

pic related, i can still run fine but it definitely hurts a little and I don't want to make it worse if I can help it

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i have the same issue

can anyone suggest a training plan for someone to into sprinting?

I started lockdown aiming for 5k run without stopping. My best currently is 3.2k without stopping and couldn't get further without winding myself severely.

I'm cutting since I think my weight is causing the lack of stamina. Now I can't even make it 1 mile without stopping. Will this get easier on a cut or should I forgo any attempt at progress while on a deficit?

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Your running form is good, you want to be forefoot or midfoot striking. Your calves are just sore because running puts a lot of stress on calves. Take some extra rest days, slow down while your calves adapt.

It'll be harder on a cut but MUCH easier once you lose weight. I've run on a cut/while losing weight and it's totally doable, you just have to recognize your limits and slow down if need be. How fat are we talking, though? What's your BMI? If it's above a certain level I wouldn't recommend running at all.

Also, you're probably running too fast.

Just starting out running, never did any sports my whole life so my cardio is absolutely atrocious, working through that plan from the wiki. I've seen on fit that jumping rope increases your cardio ability very quickly, would it be overtraining if I incorporated jump rope 4 times a week while still doing the running for beginners plan?

Try now?

But you're probably not needing to do anything but increase your weekly mileage.

Go for it, stretch & warm up, and you'll probably feel better to shake some of the soreness/tightness out.

We can't judge pain level or severity over the Internet...

But we can confirm some soreness is normal when a noob.

If you can still complete your runs, then it's not overtraining.

If it impedes your ability to get your "main" thing done, then it's too much work (for you, at the moment).

I have some very slight knee discomfort after week 1 of couch to 5k. I’m the 6’8, 250lbs guy. Would you recommend resting until it subsides and then starting week 1 again? I’m pretty sure I’m running too fast (used to be a good cross country runner years ago so my perception of “steady pace” is off).

No. Just drop the pace for week 2.

I'm a new runner and I keep fucking my ankle
>start weeb program
>love the running, only doing like 8.5 mph on the treadmill
>run every other day with rest weekends
>midway through or after week 2 ankle starts hurting
>take 1-2 weeks off till it feels better
>repeat
Should I space them out more or lower speed once my ankle feels better till my body is more used to it? The time spent not being able to run blows

At a glace:

1) you're running way too fast at 8.5mph as a new runnder trying to do a bunch of mileage.

2) are you only running treadmill, or outdoor too? get outdoors.

What should I dial it back to? 8? 7.5?
Also only inside on a treadmill. I'm self-conscious and wanted to build at least a decent base before going outside.

Can I c25k everyday? (Instead of resting one day between runs)
I'm on day 3 now and the last 2 days didn't hurt at all
I'm fit but a former smoker. I just wanna get my heart good fast

6 mph? (likely) For real, if you're new to running you're likely going way too fast for youself.

Yes.

But it's intended as a program _anyone_ can do so it starts easy (if you're not a hambeast who's growing into their couch) and then progresses....

The problem with going low mph for me is that the strides just feel way too short for me, practically just power walking. Doing it outside would obviously help this but on a treadmill it feels really awkward.

Go outdoors, bro.

>the strides just feel way too short for me
They probably should. Proper running form includes very short strides. Your feet should be landing under your hips and kicking behind you. Overstriding is a train ticket to snap city.

>e 6’8, 250lbs guy.
i wouldn't run at all, take up swimming or something. you're going to destroy your knees

I've started walking everyday now. 6000-10000 steps, and then I did a run earlier this evening after 3 weeks off cause of knee pain. Damn, hell of an improvement. Definitely rate walking a lot outside of your runs

I am a 5'5 turbomanlet and I weigh 170lbs. I'm not fat though I just got out of the army and my PT score was always between 270 and 300.

I run 10-15 miles a week at a 8-9 minute pace. I want to get to the point where I can consistently run 2 miles under 12:30 and 5 miles under 35 mins. Is this possible or am I too heavy? If I am too heavy, what would be the maximum weight I could reasonably expect to be and achieve my running goals?

>used to be in great shape
>let myself go
>be overweight at165 lbs
>try running again because I need to get in shape
>gassed doing an 8 minute mile
>can’t even physically finish 2 miles
>decide to lose weight first because it’s like I’m carrying around a 15-20lbs vest
>do fasting
>lose about 10lbs
>also start a job as a security guard where I was walking about 13-14 miles a day
>go running this morning
>7:17 mile time

Feels good bros. We’re all gonna make it :)

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>be overweight at 165 lbs
Are you a manlet?

spend some time stretching if too tight, standing on one foot and developing your ankle strength.

lot of slow and easy cardio gives you best results long term. Walking just happens to be slow and consistent enough that almost nobody can fuck it up.

I’m 5’ 7”

At my peak physical fitness I was about 155lbs but low bf %. I basically lost a shit ton of muscle and weighed 10lbs more and it was all fat

Ahh okay. Good job with your new mile time.