What's better training MMA directly or training multiple martial arts individually, one at a time?
/mag/ - martial arts general
Judo for grappling and straight up boxing will build an amazing base.
if you try to train them all at once you aren't going to be exceptional at any without being truly gifted.
Get good at 1 or 2, your bread and butter, and branch out from there.
Perfecting an individual style also teaches you how to learn effectively making the following easier to acquire competency in without feeling like you're trying to reinvent the wheel every time. After you've taken the time to do things right in your first style you will know damn well how much chaff in which tradition is steeped. You'll learn how to pick and choose what suits your body and personal philosophy and cast the rest aside.
How do I determine which martial arts I want to use as my bread and butter? And when you talk about casting the rest aside do you mean disregarding certain martial arts or rather certain techniques?
Almost nobody that posts in these trains.
>inb4 meatheads start bragging about how many people they could beat up
What do you want to do with MMA training? Do you want to compete?
boxing has no kicks, though........
You know most people (90% of the population) won’t shoot the other guy when in a fight?
This isn’t the Wild West, or the Middle East. Most people aren’t fucking killers.
>This isn’t the Wild West, or the Middle East.
Not for long.
Can someone tell me the etiquette of MT light and hard sparring? I sparred for the first time last thursday and it was a mix of both depending on the partner, it confused me a bit.
The whole point of MMA training is to create a more efficent way of training different marshal arts you fucking boob. Have fun wasting time doing them individually
If possible yes, but there are other reasons for me to start fighting as well.
- I'm a pussy I want to change that
- I want to be good at something
- I want to do some kind of sport (never done any before, besides PE)
- increase confidence
- get in shape and stay in shape
- learn to fight
- learn disciplie
- find friends
- self-defense
Also I'm 18, 174 cm tall and I weigh 65 kg.
reposting because I posted it last thread right as it died and didn't get much input:
Any heavyweight boxers in here? I need some sparring advice bad. My gym only has 3 heavyweights, me included, that are at the level to spar, the other 25 or so competitors are all in much lower weight classes (and 5 are girls) and I have no idea how to spar against them. I have the power advantage (and almost always also reach) but they're all much lighter on their feet and overall faster with their movement than I am which means that I tend to lose on volume and thus """lose""" (I know you don't really lose sparring but bear with me) every time. It's not like I can't hit them, I can, but for every punch I land, I get hit by maybe 3. If it was a real bout, I could go all out with power and make them hurt for what they're doing, even KOing them, but in a sparring match where we're both going easy I'm at a loss for what to do. I know the easy answer is just to get faster and I'm obviously working on that too but I feel like I'm never gonna get as fast as someone 50 pounds lighter than me, especially those who have been boxing for much longer than I have.
I feel like the only way I could really fight back is by abusing my reach and playing a keepaway game with my jab and counterpunching, but the problem is that this would fuck me over against the other heavyweights (and real bouts) because there I'm relatively short (6'1) for my weight class and I have to actually fight in the pocket/go in against them.
t. man who just time traveled here from the 1990s
no, if you want to do mma, train mma. there's no point in "getting good at 1 or 2" and wasting 5 years of training for no reason.
The utility of kicking is overblown in combat sports.
tbH the mma "meta" in (standup) championship fights for the past few years has been almost entirely about calf kicks to disable/destabilize the lead leg
While that may have been the case before, MMA training has advanced to the point that it can hold on its own. If your goal is to get into MMA fights, going the direct route is best.
at an amateur level, maybe. a well-developed kick from a skilled fighter can be absolutely devastating
against smaller opponents, I've always found it useful to be very aggressive. you may not have the speed, but your extra mass and reach gives you a significant advantage when it comes to applying pressure.
Be aggressive, don't yield ground, and most importantly don't gas out and you'll be surprised by how far you can go
>- I'm a pussy I want to change that
Meaning what, you're not aggressive? You back down from conflict? You're risk-averse? You have no tolerance for pain? Martial arts might help, but probably not. You're probably gonna stay a pussy in all things but sparring.
>- increase confidence
Confidence comes in many varieties. Some people explode with confidence across all facets of their life from training, most others only develop a very specific confidence that exists only in the ring/dojo. Some don't even get that. I don't think it will finally give you the guts to talk to a girl, user. You know what I think will? Getting into a fight an winning it irl. Transferring those skills in the gym to the real world. But you'll never do that, I know you have excuse after excuse already lined up.
>- find friends
Plausible, but since you're on Zig Forums, unlikely.
>- self-defense
This comes back to being a pussy. You can have all the sparring skills in the world but if you're trying to avoid conflict while the other guy is amping himself up to swing on you, you're gonna get hit. It happens all the time, and is a major reason aggressive people can take out normal people easily. Even when everyone else in the room can see what's about to happen, and even the target himself would be able to tell if he were watching, when he's right there in the heat of an altercation some cognitive dissonance comes up and he tries to defuse instead of putting his fists up, and gets hit.
What are you implying? 9.9/10 scenarios you wouldn't even draw your gun before you got laid out.
>t. Bruised thigh man
Adding to this;
As a smaller guy when kickboxing or doing HEMA my greatest asset against big dudes is mobility. The last place I want to be is in a corner, so if you dont already have good ring craft git gud at it.
Have you ever hard sparred in your life?
MMA has a set of rules and other martial arts have their own rules. So if you want to get good at MMA you need to be practicing MMA and practicing under that specific ruleset.
Exactly this, focus on footwork and cutting off, work on your defense, work on your game with the added advantage of being able to lean on them and tire them out. Don't out box, that's training a skillset you won't use against other heavyweights.
spoken like someone who has never been dropped by a solid kick to the leg
I just got back from going to a boxing gym for the first time, it was really fun but I'm so fucked up and my body hurts all over
I have a pain in my neck that's kind of annoying, is that normal?
Wrestling is the best MMA base. Followed by boxing, followed by JuiJitsu. I base this off of UFC and Bellator standings.
were you doing clinches or something?
No, just bag work. If it means anything, its definitely around the area where my shoulder rotates when I jab.