>Why are you so hostile towards atheists?
Most atheists acknowledge that religion is fundamental to keep our stupid flock of monkeys from stealing/raping/killing each other.
Religion is a fantastic tool to satisfy normies who are unable to live in a chaotic senseless world, satisfying the need to cope that comes from realizing that we are just some dust on a giant flying rock.
>Most atheists acknowledge that religion is fundamental to keep our stupid flock of monkeys from stealing/raping/killing each other.
>religion is good but dont actually believe in it
the same criticisms of machiavelli frederick the great had all apply
except this is infinitely more banal and retarded
Atheism and theism is an over simplification of the material and spiritual world. Agnosticism is more compatible to the world around us.
Christian here. I don't hate you atheists. I just think you are all edgy cringe teenagers who refuse to grow up. Besides that I don't really give a fuck what you people do. God loves you.
I'm trying to have an upper body like that goddamn
>not believing magic means you aren't grown up
Ironic.
>hurr magic
calling you a teenager is a compliment, otherwise you're very obviously just an unoriginal midwit
>religion is good but dont actually believe in it
This but unironically.
It's like having access to a secret backdoor on an OS that everyone uses to store their private info on. The altruist wants everyone to know about the backdoor so everyone's safe and protected from abuse - this is the "preachy atheist". The cynic keeps the backdoor info to himself, so he can shortcut through dealing with low IQ normies oblivious of the backdoor, and potentially abuse it for easy money - this is the "pragmatic atheist".
So what do you believe in then? Old books? Child diddlers in a church?
I agree with this. At a certain point none of us really know, so making a definite statement is just conjecture.
what is it with atheists and obsessing over religion? if you don't believe in it, why the fuck do you care?
Because we live in a society that's influenced by obsessively religious people. Your annoying biblethumping aunt that believes that prayer heals cancer has the same voting power as you do.
Because atheists don't realize how fucked up life is. And don't tell me they do and are just " stronger". Most just live in perpetual consumerism and hedonism like animals and refuse to believe there is another way that's all. I have problems with atheists not atheism itself. They are disgusting
The Kalam Comsmological argument and the fine tuning argument make the belief in God very plausible
Today, being atheist is being THE normie.
Long is gone the era of Nietzsche where atheism was the realization de could maybe live without god. Now it's muh maskerinos and muh nitendo switch!!1
But that backdoor sucks though, people are usually happier with Religion. That's why I never try to convert people to atheism, since I'd rather let them enjoy their religion.
Because Zig Forums became right-wing in 2013. They're just trolling you because they know how annoying their religious shit is. That's the whole point. They know it's annoying as fuck.
Is happiness a more worthwhile goal than truth? If you follow a religion to seek happiness, then you're doing it wrong to begin with.
>being an atheist is about being a rebel
Lol nope
I don't hate atheists and don't mind them being here but I get annoyed when turn to just shouting insults at people in threads they could have just avoided.
Why is that "another way" always a kike on a stick?
>refuse to grow up
reminds me of the incel preists who rape kids
If they really wanted truth then they'd end up as atheists regardless, what right do I have to force them to pursue truth?
Sure everyone claims to pursue truth, but only people who are willing to change their beliefs are actually pursuing it.
Truth certainly is a worthwhile goal, but it comes with suffering, and I don't want to force people into that if they don't want to. After all, there's a reason why ignorance is bliss.
>the world wasn't "created" but it just started to EXIST
yeah that checks out autistfag
When you posit a creator you just shift the problem one level back. Who created the creator? If the creator could simply exist, why couldn't a universe?
>If they really wanted truth then they'd end up as atheists regardless
If they already realize that they're following a lie, then why are they following it? That makes no sense, bruh.
>Sure everyone claims to pursue truth, but only people who are willing to change their beliefs are actually pursuing it.
Then what are the religious pursuing?
>Truth certainly is a worthwhile goal, but it comes with suffering
I disagree, it can be as blissful as life could only be. Because you can feel it's right.
>God wasn't "created" but He just started to EXIST
christfags do they exact same thing
Who says the universe had to have a beginning anyway?
>be atheist/pagan
>muh science
>fag
>cuck
>kike on a stick
>just kicked your ass in a debate
Atheism and theism aren't assertive stances saying "I know for absolute sure that this is the truth." It's a belief, saying what you believe to be the truth based on what evidence you can gather and how you interpret it.
I hate agnostics because they use their ambivalence (apathy) as a shield and an excuse. Agnosticism is a cope for brainlets who don't want to be wrong or don't want to expend any effort into thinking so they fail to make any informed choice whatsoever.
>be christian
>give the whole world smallpox
>rape millions of children and cover it up
>seethe over losing monotheistic supremacy to muslims
why make a choice on something that you have no way of knowing anyways
pretending like you're somehow above the question to equivocate is a choice too
i'm not saying i'm above that i just dont care
>Which is tastier, the chocolate or the strawberry?
>I have only enough money for one or the other, not both, so I can't know for SURE which one is tastier
>I better not buy either just to be SURE
This is how agnostics sound to me.
Also, why are agnostics so SURE that no one can ever know the truth?
>If they already realize that they're following a lie, then why are they following it?
No, obviously they believe that what they believe in is true, it's just that they don't go out of their way to seek truth from other sources, and thus aren't truly seeking truth.
>Then what are the religious pursuing?
Usually some kind of happiness, and especially the sense of community that comes with being part of a church/religion.
>I disagree, it can be as blissful as life could only be.
That's great for you, but there's tons of truth knowledge out there that will make life shittier once you know of it. Most people are going to be happier being part of some church community of whatever than they would be pursuing real truth.