/run/ - running general

Resistance parachute edition

Previous thread: ----------------------------------------------------

Couch to 5k:
runnersworld.com/uk/training/5km/a760067/six-week-beginner-5k-schedule/
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Weeb edition:
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Resources:
>fellrnr.com/wiki/Main_Page
>youtube.com/user/Vo2maxProductions
>Jack Daniels running formula
>metsperformance.com/blog/why-1km-repeats-with-short-rest-is-a-misguided-interval-set-an-introduction-into-work-rest-ratios

>Stretching
Read the fellrnr page on stretching, there are differing opinions on stretching in general.

>Before
Run for 1km to 3km and use 'lunge matrix' and leg swings as base and modify for personal needs. Dynamic, ballistic and static is all possible. You don't want to overdo it though.

>After
At least an hour after the run, do static stretches. Depends on personal needs. Also, replenish your electrolytes.

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Other urls found in this thread:

fellrnr.com/wiki/What_to_Look_for_in_Running_Shoes
jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=403120
ajs.sagepub.com/content/18/4/379.short
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16790540
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18550323
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9489830
journals.lww.com/acsm-csmr/Fulltext/2010/05000/Prevention_of_Running_Injuries.14.aspx
spibelt.com/shop/spibelt/spibelt-flex/
youtu.be/J_Me4eoUNB4?t=437
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

FAQ:
>Can I run if I'm fat?
Yes, but it depends on height/weight/age/experience/prior injuries.

>Where do I start?
c25k (couch to 5 kilometers)

>What then?
Depends on your goals.

>I don't have any running goals, I just want to stay reasonably fit, what do?
Do cardio at least twice a week for 30-60min. No need for speedwork then.

>Will I lose all my gains?
No.

>Will I lose weight?
Maybe, depends on CICO.

>Can I do cardio on rest days?
Yes, stick to easy runs.

>Does running kill my [bodypart]?
No. Feel free to ask for the pasta with the studies.

>Why does my [bodypart] hurt?
Check your form, equipment, schedule. You might be old, overweight or a noob. Ask again, give more information.

>How do I improve my time over distance [distance]?
Probably more weekly miles. Maybe speedwork. You'd best stick to a plan. Either read Jack Daniels (highly recommended) or google for 'sub [time] [distance]', chose one of the plans and ask if it's any good. If it contains 4-7 days of running, 1-2 speedwork and 1 longrun it's probably alright.

>What shoes should I buy?
Depends on your terrain, weekly milage, weight etc.. In general all brands produce quality products. Read:
>fellrnr.com/wiki/What_to_Look_for_in_Running_Shoes

>What other equipment should I buy?
The most important data to control your training is probably heart rate and then pace. You best get a cheap garmin forerunner (or equivalent), so you can watch both during your run. A HR strap for your phone can do the trick, if you are short on money.

>Should I lift?
Yes, you want a strong core and legs. Diddies, Squats, Lunges, Trap Bar Diddies and core work. Depends on goals, schedule etc.

>What else should I know?
You are probably running too fast.

>What else should I do?
Partake in local 5k's,10k's and half marathons. They are fun, even if you are slow.

>muh knees
jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=403120
>We did not find an increased prevalence of osteoarthritis among the runners. Our observations suggest, within the limits of our study, that long-duration, high-mileage running need not be associated with premature degenerative joint disease in the lower extremities.

ajs.sagepub.com/content/18/4/379.short
>a lifetime of long distance running at mileage levels comparable to those of recreational runners today is not associated with premature osteoarthrosis in the joints of the lower extremities

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16790540
>Long-distance running might even have a protective effect against joint degeneration

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18550323
>Long-distance running among healthy older individuals was not associated with accelerated radiographic OA. These data raise the possibility that severe OA may not be more common among runners.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9489830
>The presence of radiographic hip OA and the progression of radiographic knee OA was similar for older runners and nonrunners.

journals.lww.com/acsm-csmr/Fulltext/2010/05000/Prevention_of_Running_Injuries.14.aspx
>Increased training miles per week appears protective against knee injuries.

>journals.lww.com/acsm-csmr/Fulltext/2010/05000/Prevention_of_Running_Injuries.14.aspx

Some of their evidence seems contradictory. Literally two lines before they say "▪ Increased training miles per week appears protective against knee injuries." they say "▪ Higher running miles per week in male runners is a risk factor.".

So which is it? Run more miles to protect knee at a higher risk of injury or run less miles at lower risk of injury and risk knee?

Do any of you guys use like a fanny pack while running? I'm thinking about getting link below because I can't run phone in hand. spibelt.com/shop/spibelt/spibelt-flex/

i got a no-name brand flipbelt for like $10, one of the best things i have bought for running.

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Alright! Is that why this section was taken away? I added it because I remembered it from an old /run/ thread I had saved. Had a few months break from Zig Forums.

Or get one of these arm bands

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You should know those papers are worthless, vast majority of running related science papers are worthless.
youtu.be/J_Me4eoUNB4?t=437

>You should know those papers are worthless
None of these are of those 17 approved?

>vast majority of running related science papers are worthless.
>youtu.be/J_Me4eoUNB4?t=437
Interesting

very interesting

So what's everyone up to? I'm getting myself ready for an ultra, as long as the smoke lets up a bit.

>dude most papers are worthless, you can't just read the conclusion and assume you know have irrefutable truth at your finger tips
>you can easily skew the viewpoint by pulling up a flawed paper and drawing conclusions from it
>in fact out of 1113 studies only 17 were worth anything
>and even those gave inconclusive shit answers like "somewhere between 20% and 79%" which is a shit answer

>but what about those 17 ones though
gee user

>So what's everyone up to?
mandatory resting

off-topic

user ...

You claimed that all the 6 papers are flawed, yet you have only put forward a reason for one of them. Now I wonder why you think the remaining 5 are wrong. I thought you must have spotted them on this list of 1096 flawed papers in the metastudy you linked (going to assume this study is good), and that's why I asked. If they are not on this list, then your claim remains unsubstantiated. A probability of 1096/1113 does not help much. You need to actually look at the papers, or trust the opinion of someone that has.

>There was also strong evidence that increased training distance per week was a protective factor, although only for knee injuries. It remains unclear why increasing weekly distance is protective for knee injuries.

Look my point is just because somebody posts a study that aligns with whatever viewpoint they already agree with, doesn't mean it's good proof, because a huge portion of studies are shit.
You can find plenty of studies that contradict each other as well.
So we should focus on more objective ideas that can be argued logically, rather than "hur durr we did some tests and found something I guess"

I want to run in the morning but the haze in NorCal is shit. Should I just quit being a pussy and blaze through it with my n95?

Sure

Would it be better to do a 20 minute run everyday, or a 50 minute run 3 times a week for cardiovascular health

It's fucking ridiculous. In my many months of running I have gained more muscle, better conditioned body, my fucking abs are getting more and more defined, my top speed has increased, my max run time has increased, my flexibility has increase(due to stretching for better mobility and form)
Pretty much everything you can think of has happened, except my cardio is still shit.
I fucking swear this is bullshit, even by accident I can't imagine how things would have to line up to have such shit progress on cardio.

Can't really comment, I usually try to only run when the air is at it's cleanest.
Sometimes the extra rest just means better recovery and a better workout after I finally get to it.

20min 5-6times a week would be better for you mentally and metabolism.
50min 3 times a week is better and safer for cardio and recovery.

>new pair of running shoes have arrived
just need to wash them and dry. can't wait

Why do you feel you need to wash your running shoes? Were they shipped in a block or something? Youre probably wearing socks, so you dont even need to worry about the dye or anything.

>Why do you feel you need to wash your running shoes?
Because pic related. I don't plan to use socks with them and I don't want some factory chemicals leeching into my feet. So at least one wash should help with that.

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What if I work up to running 5k but don't lift? What will happen to my body if I'm already a skinny DYEL?

Oh. Kayacking socks. Not shoes. Makes sense; dont overdo it.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! GOTTA GO FAST! 20x400m REPEATS AT 50m PACE! NO FUCKING EXCUSES! FUCK SLOW JOGGING!

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>the studies are poor
>but I'm going to do the poor thing by doing this
Clasic rules for thee but not for me. He is allowed to nitpick, but you are not allowed to nitpick. No wonder why barefoot running is on their last cope and now the paradigm is switching to maximalist shoes.

ngmi

you son of a bitch!

You'll just end up being sore in more places than just your legs/feet. You'll probably gain a tiny bit of muscle, just start doing simple strength stuff in addition to your runs.

Anyone ever get this sharp poorly localized pain in their hamstring/quad after a run? Its worse when Im sitting or trying to move that leg laterally. Part of me thinks its severe because Ive never felt doms like this before, but it fades a day after running just like doms would. I'm tired of taking time off but I should probably see a doctor before returning to running right?

I dunno about a doctor, maybe talk to someone who does sports medicine/physiotherapy type stuff.