fucking jews. this is what they do:
>muh goyim your 4:3 TV is small and (((OUTDATED))), get a (((MODERN))) one
>muh goyim your 16:9 TV is small and (((OUTDATED))), get a (((MODERN))) one
now go to step one
I am sure fucking jews will promote 4:3 or 30:9 after 21:9
why won't government mandate that all movies and TV's can only be done in one specific aspect ratio? because government is owned by jews. jews need a holocaust
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Also a way of attacking existing media and encouraging people to gravitate even more towards hot new garbage because it's new and doesn't have black bars. The normalfags are basically asking to be scammed, so they deserve it, but that doesn't change the fact that the good stuff will only become more uncommon over time so it will affect me. ∞:0 is clearly what normalfags are looking for. Can't wait to (not) see it.
Another groundbreaking insight from OP. Truly, an astonishing and world shattering viewpoint that has never before been mentioned on these boards. We thank you for this most excellent contribution which truly pushes the intellectual frontier of our movement to a higher level.
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I think they widened the aspect ratio in like 10 steps in the last 20 years. Starting around 2000, every time I watched a new movie it would be thinner until my 50" TV was too small. Goyim see this tiny ass format on the latest star wars and think this makes it prestigious in some sort of way, then the kid in the store says "oh yeah look at this new TV it makes the image bigger by matching the aspect ratio" and they respond "oh that's genius".
How about zooming in the video frame and cutting off the extreme sides where nothing important ever happens anyway, with nothing of value being lost? Problem solved.
You have to find versions of old movies or shows that were made for old school 4:3 TVs. Sometimes they also have black bars, but it's better than dealing with all the endless new-fangled shit.
Except half of the fucking video. It's the same thing as cutting the top and the bottom of 4:3 videos, that feels like you're watching it with goddamn binoculars (well, maybe a little worse than that, actually), or something. Not as bad as that because wider aspect ratios already look unnatural to me anyway, but you're still butchering something that you presumably appreciate.
Well, of course. The only way to make something like that fit a wide screen is to stretch it (looks wrong and terrible) or to cut half of the video off (even worse). I always go for the original aspect ratio. The problem is that this has to stop changing. There has to be a standard or we will end up with an increasing amount of aspect ratios for different eras. And screens are already too wide to begin with.
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It was probably bad anyway. Monitors are worth bitching about. Then again, everything is. Try to find anything good that was made in this century and you will have a lot to bitch about.
Well their entire business model is to change things and deprecate old media, so people buy the same shit over and over again. They have no incentive to stop doing that. So I'll just stick with old 4:3 stuff. Anyway all the good movies are from those days, and new stuff is pozzed
Make up your mind lol
Nothing can be worse than this obvious bait thread.
There are two threads dedicated to bitching about 19:6/LCD monitors already. The OP isn't even complaining about monitors he's complaining about aspect ratio and hoping to bait out an autist by proclaiming 4:3 pan and scan versions of old movies as "better".
Early 2000s Trinitron clones and MLOK AR-15 handguards.
This thread along with the 3-4 other bait threads posted this morning just go to prove how far Zig Forums has fallen and out incompetent the BO is. After seeing the steady decline in quality this year where you fags have been allowed to run free and all ability for users to self moderate has been taken away I'm convinced the BO and janitors are shitting the place up themselves.
Consumers alway reason like this
Lmfao, you know that nowadays this shit is full of illuminati/kike propaganda right? Not even tinfoiling here, really man
found your problem
This only applies to movies, OP. All TV shows for the past 10 years have been filmed in 16:9 and that standard isn't going anywhere.
What makes movies different? Because the majority of profit will come from the cinema where black bars don't exist since it's projected onto a screen. And the director gets to choose whatever aspect ratio will work better for their movie. A movie with a lot of landscape and scenery? Or horizontal action? Then a ratio wider than 16:9 is great for that. But a movie that's mostly talking and not a lot of action? 16:9 works better there.
Calm down, it's only 2 black bars.
you won't regain lost vertical field of view
they make those shit 21:9 movies that when they show someone head in close view, you don't see it fully, hair and jaw is a bit cut off.
can you then show us what quality thread have YOU started this morning? or this week?
it's not only 2 bars. you don't understand the jewery and how they train us
You mean 7:3?
That's how it is with everything. You need new clothes every month, the newest phone, car, computer, everything. Even though people lived without that stuff not so long ago.
That's the capitalist trap.
the jews call it "21:9" because 21 is bigger than 7 and bigger than 16
so goys will think that 21:9 is better than 16:9 because 21>16.
then let's destroy capitalism, with strong actions
we in Cuba, we have communism and we are happy people
if not US sanctions against us, we would be even happier and more successful. but they put sanctions on us, so we won't become too successful, because other countries could take example from us and destroy capitalism. jews don't want to lose capitalism, so they sanction and destroy all non-capitalist places
Not true, faggot. Anyway, film is meant to be projected. Film should have never be allowed to be digitized and watched on tvs and monitors. Film was never meant to be watched on some shitass tn panel. This aspect ratio maymay is just symptom of a more fundamental problem, and that's capitalization of art, big studios and labels and shit, and that's too just a symptom.
Your entire rant is blaming the Jews for different screen ratios. You believe the only reason the government doesn't regulate these ratios is because the Jews are in charge.
Are you well?
20,000 keks under the sea, matey! In another 10 years there will be new format and 16:9 outdated for XtremeParabolicHD or whatever shit they want to peddle next that's incompatible and forces you to buy not only new hardware but also buy again the same movies and shows in the new "improved" format.
Well technically you do get black bars, unless the projection covers extactly the entire surface of the screen. And cinema isn't all that great unless you're sitting towards the middle. Plus these fuckers make you sit thorugh ads and try to sell overpriced drinks and snacks. Haven't been to a theatre since 2008, and don't plan to go back ever again.
Okay guise i've been wondering why is the net so bloated today heres an example:
like why the fuck this uses 40% of my cpu
plus the design is so fucking hipster trash
is this the state of modern web development??
Normalfags will never breakaway from this habbit, Jews will always win shut up and deal with it. We lose.
You lose because you don't understand scale of economy and you don't care to run your own manufacturing business.
This is some surprisingly refined bait, 8/10, only possible improvement would be one more twist, like something about color or stereo sound.
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if government was doing what people want, not what jews want, they would force jews to use single aspect ratio for movies and TV
if we do holocaust the problem will be solved
we need The Final Solution
and capitalism was a mistake. we need to destroy it
This works good for most porn on a CRT actually.
So 2009 and up. Gotcha. Opinion discarded.
I don't think most people here buy new clothes every month, and I haven't bought new clothes for months (which is usually a $5 tshirt anyway).
Screen ratio was square like due to crt technology. We naturally see in a ratio closer to 16:9 than 4:3 so once LCD allowed this,we switched.
wtf just plug your PC into the TV
wrong, dumbass
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No wonder you're so stupid
Given the same diagonal, a 4:3 screen has more area compared to 16:9.
For CRT-based technology, an aspect ratio that is closer to square is cheaper to manufacture. The same is true for projectors, and other optical devices such as cameras, camcorders, etc. For LCD and plasma displays, however, the cost is more related to the area. In addition to our eyes naturally seeing a rectangular view.
Also your meme that claims they have identical area wouldn't disprove what I said even if true
There were wide CRTs too.
Very original.
Maybe not here, but all it takes is a visit to the supermarket to see hordes of people falling for the "NEW WINTER COLLECTION" "NEW SUMMER COLLECTION" scam.
Your eyes see what you focus on. You can't read a document by just staring straight at a screen, your eyes will move to focus. So this whole meme about "our eyes see in widescreen" is bullshit.
Widescreen only makes sense for watching movies and if it's really far away from you, so you don't have to turn your head constantly. Even a movie theatre sucks if you're stuck in the front seats. And modern laptops suck unless the screen is like 12 inches or less (and those suck too because you've got almost no vertical space). But with a 4:3 or 5:4 display, you can comfortable have a 15 or 17-inch screen an arm's length away and not have to move your head constantly back and forth like you're a spectator at Wimbledon.
Your eyes do see in widescreen. Your focus may be tiny but peripheral vision is a real form of vision that has real utility in real life. Widescreen displays can support this fact.
Yes but Crts are cheaper to produce square like so most aren't
Human vision is better approximated by 16:9 than by 4:3, given how our eyes are positioned.
Most other animals have much wider view cones, very few have proportionally taller view cones because lateral vision is almost always more important than vertical vision in nature.
Yes I'm sure the Chinese and Korean TV manufacturers are sending their cronies to movie cinematographers and threatening them to use non-standard aspect ratios so that consumers will be mildly inconvenienced by black bars, which will entice them to buy new TVs in slightly different aspect ratios which will get rid of said black bars.
Here, we have two niggers in their natural habitat, making typical non-arguments about display tech:
No, you see peripheral vision, but that doesn't prove or disprove whether widescreen matters.
No, they don't.
And you provided no evidence that this also applies to movies or games.
What people bought has nothing to do with what is rational.
Great argument retard, you really BTFOd this thread. The display industry merely creates what will be sold. What will be sold is dictated by media (movies, games, The media, etc).
I'm talking about using a monitor where you read text and such. Your eyes *have* to move to focus. Same with paper books and magazines, it's no different there either. That's why old school newspapers with their bigass pages have the text formatted in columns, or else it would be a real PITA to read, and also you'd often end up losing track of which line you were on when you mentally hit CR/LF (so to speak). Even speed reading techniques work by moving your eyeballs (focus) around rapidly while scanning the text.
Peripheral vision is not very useful for any kind of detailed work. For 3D FPS video games and movies, ok, but even there it's annoying to move your head around if the screen is big and close up. Anyway pretty much the only FPS games I can stand are Doom & clones from the 90's, and those are 4:3.
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Jews don't understand it either, so they start central banks to take these companies over with green toilet paper protected by the power of the U.S. military. That's right you fucking jarheads, you're not dying for freedom, you're helping kikes invade and destroy American business!
You think these big nosed freaks are smart? They're inbred shitheads. For the past decade, hardly a single corporation today is surviving off of actual income and profit; they're all laundering blood money. They taunt the public with insults and curses and develop evil products nobody wants. (P&G/Gillette)
When the jig is up and the public wonders how such a company still thrives with no customers, then it leaks its customer data to another jew "WE WUZ HAKED" and pretends to naturally go out of business. (Facebook)
Honestly if you don't have a 4:3 television still setup for viewing older media you're probably too retarded to live.
You can place text in multiple columns/pages on a screen too, for example I read most pdfs keeping two pages on screen at a time on 16:9.
That is equivalent to having 2 8:9 viewports, which is better than having 2 4:3 monitors if you want vertical space and have the same area constraints.
You can have columns without widescreen monitor though. Just set your relution high enough, if you want that. My cheapass used 5:4 monitor can do 1280x1024, and better ones can do 1600x1200. With a 17 or 19 inch display, you can set the font small enough that you comfortably have several columns, or xterms or other windows side-by-side. The whole widescreen thing was just a way for manufacturers to save a little money while pretending to sell you the same screen surface size, even though it's smaller (they always advertise diagonal size in inches, never square inches!) And if you have special needs, two monitors is better than one widescreen, because you can actually rotate one of them to display full letter-size or A4 document, and it won't be all fucking goofy like trying to read a widescreen that's rotated vertically (unless it's a really small one).
But they are too thin then, even on 16:9 3 columns is too thin compared to standard page format.
Also horizontal space is useful for media and some work stuff (certain spreadsheets and graphs are much wider than tall, and don't really paginate well).
Well then you don't need extra columns, if they're getting thin. It's a self-correcting problem. As for spreadsheets, I never heard anyone having problem with this back in the 80's or 90's. For that matter, nobody complained when playing Doom or Quake that the screen wasn't wide enough.
That's called overscan. It was done because cheap consumer-grade CRTs wouldn't often be able to display the full image, therefore the "external resolution" would effectively be a little smaller than the internal resolution, which makes the fat on the fringes of the display useless.
Sorry about the shitty blur on the image.
Some people actually get nausea from playing FPS games at a low FOV.
The problem with OP's theory: TV's are cheap as hell now. I can get a TV better for $300 than the one my dad paid $3000 for in the 1990s.
Obsolescence, (((smart TV))) shit, and cable updates are a more likely vector for Jewing. Also, as cheap as TVs are, you can just get more of them.
Kek, American McGee was one of the guys who got nausea from playing those games, and his solution was simply to decrease the window size. Anyway it's just a small fraction of people that had this problem.
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Are you people seriously using 4:3 screens? If you part a ~27" 16:9 screen in the middle and run different stuff on it's left and right side you'll have more screen real estate than on any 4:3 screen.
Yeah, people use 4:3 screens and even 5:4 screens. I was fucking satisfied with that, the old Thinkpad keyboards and clit, and hardware that wasn't full botnet. Also Linux before the SystemD and CoC shit. Yeah, a whole lot of things were just better.
Tell me your workflow and software you use and such, please. I'm genuinely intrigued. What resolution is your 4:3 or 5:4 screen? Every other user, also feel free to answer.
Nothing much has changed for me since the 90's. You can read this thread:
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I have 17-inch 5:4 screen running at 800x600 framebuffer console, for ARM board display.
First computer I used was text-only CP/M system. I *like* text-based stuff and terminals. Anytime I gotta use Firefox (which isn't often), I immediately want to gtfo of it and X as quick as possible. It's fucking awful, absolute garbage, everything about it. And that's how I feel about pretty much all "modern" computing shits. Even something ancient like pic is infinitely better, in almost every respect.
Columns/pages are quantized, so nope.
I can show 2 or 3 pages side to side, can't do that with 2,5 pages or other fractional numbers.
I get that you don't like 16:9, but now you're being ridiculous.
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It depends on what resolution your screen is, and what size the fonts are. If I got a bigass 19 or 21-inch 4:3 display, I can fit a shitload of columns on there, and more than one page, maybe even a 9x9 matrix of pages.
Anyway 640x480 in 16 colors is what God said, and the more you deviate from that, the more degenerate you become.
Here is the real story. Take it from a guy who is old enough to have actually lived in the 80's and 90's but young enough to not have Alzeimer and remember.
TV was 4:3 but theater movies were ultrawide. Then came the time to agree on a resolution and ratio for High Definition standard. It was decided to choose the best ratio to watch both 4:3 and ultrawide, this middle ratio was 16:9.
Now, it's 2019.
- 4:3 is totally dead. (Only old 80's guys like me who watch only old stuff and play only old videogames still use 4:3 screens. No money to make here so they don't care. 4:3 tablets are awesome though but they almost disappeared.)
- The mostly used screen is now by far the smartphone, which all are 18/9 to 21/9 now.
- Theater movies are still ultrawide.
- Some gamers like ultrawide monitors.
So unfortunatly it makes sense that the next standard will be wider than 16:9. It is not to force people into buying new TVs though.
I grew up in the 70's, and we had 4:3 anime and TV shows. :)
Movie adaptations of course could either have black bars or just crop. I never had problems with any of this, and anyway most often just read books or comic books instead of watching the tube.
Video - I much prefer the old animated Hobbit/LOTR stuff instead of the more recent movies. It just feels more fantastical to me. I outright deleted the new movies that were on my HDD, but will always keep these old ones.
Serious question: why?
Read the thread you dumb fuck nigger cattle
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Is this bait? Your 4:3 cap has matting (black bars). Kubrick shot in 1.85:1-1.33:1. Aspect ratio has never been standardized. Thats why older theaters have actual curtains.They would adjust them to match the film.
4:3 is television shit. The only thing that was shot in that was stuff going strait to TV like sitcoms or "made for TV movies".
This reduces the area of the screen that simulates first person 3d movement, which does help. Likewise, increasing FOV and the horizontal area does too. It affects enough people that console games aren't being ported to the PC without an FOV slider.
I see the cuck (((board owner))) is still letting this shill run loose.
Why do you blame the jews for some technology change? Are you and your people so incompetent that any occurrence in the world has to be related to this boogey men you link to all your problems?
I'm talking about stuff like PDF pages and scanned documents, stuff that has a predetermined page format and can't be resized to other formats well if at all.
By 4:3 stuff, I mean adaptations for TV, before they all became kikevision HD widescreen shits. Like I said, the black bars or cropping don't bother me at all. I grew up with this, and barely ever went to the cinema (maybe once every few years on average).
Fun fact: Doom up through v1.1 had a 3-screen mode, like was popular on some flight sims at the time. But then they removed it, and I don't know any other FPS that had this feature.
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Yeah well at that point you have special needs and just buy another screen, if seeing the document in 100% resolution is that important. I never had this need, and it wouldn't work on laptops anyway, much less the phones and tablets that people are using as computers now. Desktops are effectively niche now, for serius gaymers or some businesses, and they both have money to spend, so another screen wouldn't break them. In fact, in the end, they'd end up with more screen surface, compared to widescreen kikevision shits.
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Desktops are still selling fine.
You can *read* PDFs without needing it at 100% scale with entire document showing. And like I said, this special need isn't something that works on the average person's "computer" in CURRENT_YEAR. It's a niche requirement.
And no, desktops aren't selling as much as they used to by market share. Now it's mostly laptops, tablets, phones. It's been that way for a long time, in fact.
Thanks for confirming that 4:3 is a meme.
That's pretty neat, never knew that existed. I almost want to install chocolatDoom up through v1.1 had a 3-screen mode doom on a few computers and try it out.
According to the article you posted it wasn't removed, it was just broken in the 1.2 release, as they reworked the networking
You can achieve pretty much the same thing on most games by using multiple monitors.
Nigger, king jew Marx was all about ending jewish capitalism in favour of jewish communism.
Only reasonable post in this entire thread.
My dad bought a 16:9 CRT TV in the late 1990s together with a DVD player, and lots of movies were already in 21:9 format showing black bars on top and bottom. It isn't anything new.