Other than maybe (((satellite phones))), what other communication methods will work very long distances when the global infrastructure goes to shit in an apocalypse situation?
Apocalypse communications
Dylan Foster
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Easton James
What would be the point of global communication in a post apocalypse world? The infrastructure would not disapear just because of a few atom bombs or zambies eating people, it might only need a little repair.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Radios (if they have enough power)
Smoke signals (may get you fucko'd by raiders lol)
Carrier Pigeon (???)
Pony Express (truth is, the game was rigged from the start)
Morse code (requires cable to be set up)
Drums (lol niggers)
Whistles (post-apoc feminists will crucify you for catcalling, also birds lol)
Light signals (needs to be dark + can be seen by raiders)
Flagging (the thing with the half red half white flags that you hold in different positions)
Flare guns (only one shot + easily seen by all)
Shouting (will be heard and fucko'd by aforementioned raiders)
SMS (tower needs to be active + they need to be in range of tower or chain of towers)
Color codes (will only be seen by those who recognize it, they may not see it example: bandana in a window sill)
really all that seems available tbh, take your pick
Isaiah Watson
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also to add to what this user said
if you or someone you know is separated from yourself or your group and is far away (can mean different things depending on terrain and location) then most likely you or they are shit out of luck and are probably fucked.
that is, you/them will probably get raped, robbed, or murdered somewhere along your journey back to your group.
Comms would only be useful if
1. no one else but your people were on a specific/encrypted channel
2. you actually CAN help them
3. are at least somewhat sure that they aren't going to die in the immediate future, thus compromising your Comms
for example
there are a few solutions to this
1. get sally out of the urbanite hellscape (most effective method)
2. have a "self-destruct" option on the walkie, or a remote detonation method so that if sally reports bad news and then doesn't respond to hails or at the specified interval one or more times you can safely assume sally is kill and blow up the walkie (and probably a nig lol)
3. don't even give sally a walkie but instead a contingency plan (not on paper of course)
that is an example of when providing or using Comms in a post-apoc situation would be a null point.
but for the sake of discussion her is an example of how it could be useful
and so at that point it would be safe and reasonable to have comms
Logan Sullivan
How would you power that shit? Isn't it a resource hog?
Towers like that are desinged to handle few thousand connections at once.
I don't think there would be that big human settlements after an apocalypse
Daniel Nelson
You can just use signal lamps or anything capable of being turned on and off if you want to use morse code. No electricity strictly needed, either. They used to use kerosene lamps in ye olden days, but any steady source of light should do.
Jaxson Fisher
How realtime is the communication?
You can write a cult book which only your kind can decipher and spread that occultism around or it could be an artwork with hidden meanings.
How about put all useful electronics under a Faraday-cage bunker and have energy generators too?
You probably played too much video games or watched a lot of Hollywood. Nuclear winter and all that shit can't cause apocalypse and if any they're only used against secret and military bases. All nukes won't even kill the planet at all. Your only apocalypse is when they decide to finally cage the goyim outside the walls of new world utopia and force them to work but that's not the case since robots are their final goal as the embodiment of perfect goyim so you'll be left out on the slum suburbs to illegally live.
Asher Martinez
None of them, and modern humans are too stupid to survive without smartphones. A few are, but the stupid masses will kill them first for being nerds.
Ian Sullivan
IRC
Jose Martin
This is the only solution. You cannot escape the snartphone jew, no matter what. Those who don't have smartphones will be killed by the normies. Fighting back against (((them))) is futile. This is another way in which we forever lose. Conform or die.
This is what will inevitably happen. We will lose eternally. What will follow after (((they))) inevitably get all their wishes is 1,000,000,000 years of darkness. At the bare minimum. We have nothing worth living ot fighting for. Suicide is our only option.
Joseph Price
If electronic communication is important to you then I would look at the modern DMR spec.
Has encryption and better radio's support STUN and KILL. So you could temp disable a lost radio or strait up brick it if you know its lost forever. The spec also supports text messaging and (slow) IP networking. The encryption wont stop a glower from listening in but it would stop a local nigger with a scanner.
Ham's have adopted the DMR specification and have set up repeaters all over. I wouldn't count on their infrastructure in SHTF but it would be a good way to practice with the tech now and learn it's capabilities.
You can get chink DMR radios (MD380) for 69bux if you only want voice and limited text messaging. All DMR radios can fall back to FM analog if you want. DMR works with a repeater or can talk simplex (radio to radio directly).
Better prepared older cell sites can run for 3 days with no commercial power. Today they build them cheap and only put in limited battery power that will run hours at best. Also with no back haul they are useless. The days of being able to call and text anyone locally on an amputated site are over. All switching and logic is done in the "cloud" offsite.
If your comm plan depends on infrastructure you don't control then you have no comm plan.
Jonathan Garcia
So why aren't you dead right now? Obviously you don't believe what you say here so it means that you're just trolling.
Jaxson Harris
Carson Williams
I agree with that blackpill user in that suicide is the answer for most of Zig Forums but for slightly different reasons tbh
Robert Gray
Solar powered low-band radio with battery backups. They don't require that much power and much harder to damage than digital comms. Downsides would be that they are easily tracked and easily interfered with.
Alexander Gomez
There's a kill switch in basically every appliance.
Chase Collins
Sat phones glow so bright you don't need eyes to see them.
When people talk about "sat phones" they are talking about Iridium Satellite LLC. Look at the history of that company starting around 2001. Satphone to satphone voice theoretically could be secure but the metadata is definitely not. Any phone call made from a satphone to a number that is not a sat phone has to pass through one of the DoD controlled gateways and though the telco switch that just happens to be located in DC. Also when resources are scarce the fed phones will have priority over commercial customers.
So
Lots of "if"'s with satphones
And it is pointless to even talk about them as a viable option. The cost just to have one is so high no one on Zig Forums actually has one unless they are a glower.
Ian Reyes
What about pre-2001 satellite phones?
Justin Howard
Couldn't you reprogram the sat phone to connect directly to various Ham-Sattelites? Of course, you'd need to be licensed but in a SHTF situation who would enforce?
John Stewart
It's not the phone that matters. Its the network.
They have hotspots that you can connect your own cellphone phone to now.
This guy gives a good demonstration of what its like to actually use the service. >youtube.com
Voice, text, and data all flows through the ground stations. Its all MiTMed. At bursts of 2.4kbps you could theoretically send something like PGP though it but the main issue is that in a national SHTF situation the 1st thing they will do is shut down commercial use of the network.
Totally different tech. AMSAT just uses normal FM analog VHF/UHF in most cases.
See amsat.org
You might get a few fly overs that last a few mins each. And you need a computer or the internet to predict when the fly overs happen and in most cases where it is so you can point an antenna to it. There is no big ham constellation.
It takes Iridium 82 satellites to have the coverage that they have.
James Russell
Please read up on the things you want to talk about before making yourself look dumb
Adrian Barnes
STFU bitch
Luke Bell
Why not just use the amateur civilian echo satellites for phone calls?
Kayden Jackson
GEE I DON'T KNOW YOU SPAZ, MAYBE BECAUSE EVERYBODY LINKED WILL HEAR YOU? SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARDED MOUTHBREATHER
Nathan Diaz
Encrypted ham radio transmission is illegal, ham radio dudes are a bunch of faggots and will snitch on you if they notice you broadcasting anything like that
Cameron Long
Ayden Evans
Hams already have several different global data networks going. We also commonly use RTTY which is compatible with equipment going all the way back before WWII. Hellschriber is also another ancient technique which is used these days, mainly just for a laugh.
DMR and DSTAR and the other competing digital mainly HT / mobile technologies are all memes because the audio encoders and other stuff is proprietary. FM is king and will be into the future. Why much about with all this digital stuff when analog does it just as well? IRLP has been around for what, decades now, and we have echolink for the smart phone. I admit DMR and DSTAR have certain bullet points in their favor but it's balkanizing ham radio.
Yep people have been making satellite repeater voice contacts for decades, too.
Same retards doing this in every thread in Zig Forums see anything Google or Facebook.
Xavier Fisher
Why didn't anyone mention short wave? Sure, you're not gonna be able to torrent moe shit but it will be good enough to sign some bitcoin transactions or to log into an IRC server with low traffic. Maybe send some highly-compressed audio messages, etc.
Besides, it will be a nice return to analog. Wanna hear news from the Czech Republic?
Robert Roberts
There is no competing. DMR won digital. Bigly. The Brandmister network alone has 2900+ repeaters. DMR MARC 500+.
DSTAR is a dead propriety ham meme. DMR is an open standard and very far from a meme. dmrassociation.org
Those are old amateur methods of linking repeaters that depended on the internet. Not really the same thing as DMR since DMR can talk simplex,though a standalone repeater, or though a networked repeater. Even the shittiest bofang DMR radio's can talk FM so your not sacrificing interoperability with a DMR radio.
The user I was replying to was asking about something that could talk encrypted and had a "self destruct" feature. There are DMR radios that support both AES256 encryption and do over the air re-keying. There are DMR radios that have built in STUN/KILL features that can be done simplex in the field. None of his requests could be met by an analog rig.
The only requirement DMR couldn't hit for him would be the range from Maine to NY. For that he would need HF and to work out an opsec protocol for communication over that. The history books would be his friend there. Just look up methods used during WWII.
Easton Gray
*through
Dominic Gutierrez
shortwave with valves
Jace Collins
This is true of old analog FM and IRLP has a huge number of linked repeaters, if you add in echolink it's a shit ton more.
Brayden Jenkins
How exactly are you supposed to send digital data over radio shortwave? Can you point to any such implementations/protocols which use short wave as a carrier?
Landon Ward
RTTY has been around for like a hundred years.