Discord Alternatives

Isaac White
Isaac White

I am in great need of a chatting platform better than Discord.

Ideally:
-With text channels or some other way to organize text (categories being a plus)
-Ability to ban, kick, etc
-Easy to make multiple servers
-Voice chat
-Easy to invite others
-Private messaging
-Deleting text from trolls

Optional:
Roles, emojis, bots, and other things to liven it up.

RocketChat sucks.
Matrix doesn't have text channels.

Guys..
There's gotta be something better.

Attached: 0-FDdiWdrriXPKGNyf.png (43.95 KB, 481x344)

Other urls found in this thread:

n3t.host/mumble.html
irc.org/tech_docs/rfc1459.html
wiki.mumble.info/wiki/3rd_Party_Applications
directory.fsf.org/wiki/Mumble
ordoevangelistarum.com/chat
jami.net/
escargot.log1p.xyz
chat.nobodyhasthe.biz
mega.nz/#F!DpAz2IgQ!nW7bPNnpJFk5CAV3ypiaHw
youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

Zachary Davis
Zachary Davis

Mumble ticks pretty much most if not all your boxes.

Thomas Green
Thomas Green

this
And check out this server n3t.host/mumble.html

Attached: Thinking-Renchon.png (172.51 KB, 290x290)

Julian Hughes
Julian Hughes

IRC.
lol but
IRC, MOTHERFUCKER
voice chat?
IRC + some open source voice service that you can plug into both server and a client so that it's seamless.
yeah, since several features aren't normally supported by IRC, you'll need to have your own server and client. You can start with a stock codebase for each, and then get most of your shit done with additional state and commands server-side. For example, the server can maintain a permanent log of each channel's conversations, and clients can make requests from the log when the user joins the channel for the first time, scrolls up past the log it has already, does a search, etc.
readable, trivial, easy IRC protocol + some sane extensions is 30% of what you want. Voice shit is another 10%. The remaining 560%, if you want people to use your product and not go back to Discord, is UX.

James Gonzalez
James Gonzalez

Git repo?

Attached: hit-or-miss.webm (1.95 MB, 540x960)

Joshua Johnson
Joshua Johnson

(checked)
I'm not interested in Discord, I've just read irc.org/tech_docs/rfc1459.html , wrote a server in Erlang, wrote clients in a few languages.
If I were to have a repo it'd target slack, because my company refuses to pay for slack, and Google Chat is coded entirely with cancer.

Nathan Peterson
Nathan Peterson

dude just use IRC even if it does not fit your usecases, just use a plugin that I am not even going to mention
Delete Zig Forums

Josiah Fisher
Josiah Fisher

You mean the chat program that freezes every minute for two minutes for some weird reason, and that this problem has been reported since forever but nobody knows or wants to fix?

Jason Barnes
Jason Barnes

IRC is entirely extensible. The problem is that there is no push to extend IRC beyond what it currently is, a protocol for handling text requests.
In the early 90's, because IRC was pretty much it for chatting on the Internet, people were extending it all kinds of ways, that's why DCC and CTCP exist.
A few years go by and AOL releases AIM, Yahoo! releases Yahoo! Messenger, Microsoft releases MSN Messenger, ICQ pops up, and so on.
A few more years goes by and bandwidth has increased to the point where voice, video, and large data are easy and quick to transfer.
All those other clients, or new ones, met market demands for adding voice, video, and data for users once it was feasible to implement and easy to use.
What happened with IRC is that many users migrated away from the networks. A lot of that actually had to do with politics behind the ops for the networks, but some left because of boredom or found other chat programs to fit their needs.
Now all those IM clients, except for ICQ, are dead, and there are these social media fill-ins which are just garbage, but because they meet certain usecases people use them without much thought.
IRC could easily take over that role if money was involved, networks would play along, and people would invest their time and energy into extending the protocol within its already generously open requirements.

Jose Sullivan
Jose Sullivan

A brief history of the Anti-IRC Movement:
• 1998: IRC? lol user, why don't you use ICQ instead, it's much better.
• 2002: IRC? lol user, just install MSN, stop being such a nerd.
• 2006: IRC? lol user, with Skype you can make phone calls for free.
• 2010: IRC? lol user, Facebook Chat is all you need, everybody is there already.
• 2014: IRC? lol user, you should try WhatsApp, you can even send voice messages.
• 2018: IRC? lol user, that's prehistoric! you should checkout Discord and Slack, so much better.

IRC needs no extentions, it is fine for what it is. It is the idiocy of the general public that is the problem, which is why we also have Webshit, tech illiteracy, and Windows 10 is accepted as a stable system

Logan Kelly
Logan Kelly

<not mentioning the fact that it will forever be in plain text
shoo shoo fbi

Colton Green
Colton Green

Feel dumb for asking, but what exactly do you mean by text channels?
What exactly is matrix missing?

Hunter Edwards
Hunter Edwards

Keybase has all of those except voice chat. It also has some other useful features like large encrypted file sharing. Has anyone here tried it?

Attached: keybase.png (10.46 KB, 200x200)

Christian Gonzalez
Christian Gonzalez

Just about every irc client supports ssl. If you care about it then just configure your server to only allow encrypted connections.

Jordan Watson
Jordan Watson

My formative years were spent chatting on ICQ. I had no idea, I was filling out my own profile in a Mossad database. I can't wait for that to come back and haunt me someday.

Blake James
Blake James

That just encrypts the transport.

Kayden Sanchez
Kayden Sanchez

......................................................................................................................................................................................while :; do echo -n .; done

Colton White
Colton White

What else would you like encrypted, exactly?

Jackson Edwards
Jackson Edwards

Well I'm more looking for other crypto related things like being able to prove that a user sent a message / pm'd me and it wasn't just the server.

Juan Wilson
Juan Wilson

Attached: 32e.jpg (69.62 KB, 500x364)

Jonathan Thompson
Jonathan Thompson

service allows users to send messages to each other
<gosh, how can this service possibly allow users to send cryptographically signed messages to each other?
remember when SMTP 2.0 came out because SMTP 1.0 didn't support cryptographic signatures?

Hudson Jones
Hudson Jones

try the beta I've never had this issue

Jordan Parker
Jordan Parker

the svencoop channel on irc.gamesurge.net is never coming back because they migrated to discord

Attached: wojak-treading-water.png (82.72 KB, 790x773)

Robert Gomez
Robert Gomez

<J-j-just use a plugin
At that point you are just using the IRC protocol as your transport layer. IRC just becomes bloat and you might as well use a more efficient transport.

Austin Rodriguez
Austin Rodriguez

sure, and the appropriate time to get around to that particular optimization is... uh... never.

Nathaniel Reed
Nathaniel Reed

I looked at it maybe a year ago. It looked like it had promise, but it seems to be mainly for people doing FOSS work. Though I don't see why you couldn't use it for whatever. I know the client is free, but what about the server?

Wire might be a good alternative.

David Gray
David Gray

Use mumble I highly reccomend u check out wiki.mumble.info/wiki/3rd_Party_Applications there's cli interfaces, bots, webclients. Ive even met people from the ccc.de on mumble. You'll only find patrician tier communities. People that actually are passionate about free software and mumbles codebase is just waiting for you the make commits and fixes to stack up dat folio.

Attached: emacs-fingers.png (520.9 KB, 596x445)

Camden Sullivan
Camden Sullivan

Riot.im

Christian Watson
Christian Watson

Its not as good as mumble uses shitty voice support check the code

Brody Young
Brody Young

mfw
directory.fsf.org/wiki/Mumble
If its good enough for the fsf its good enough for me mumble is irc 3.0 belive dat

Attached: mfwppldontusemumble.gif (3.9 MB, 480x270)

Eli Myers
Eli Myers

Im also really digging this server you posted

Attached: both-clapped.gif (276.62 KB, 640x460)

Julian Peterson
Julian Peterson

Just use Wire. It's basically the same as Discord and Slack.

Asher Watson
Asher Watson

Tox!

Attached: 1549702559680.png (31.82 KB, 500x500)

Colton Diaz
Colton Diaz

Deleting text from trolls
Thread disregarded

Alexander Russell
Alexander Russell

There's gotta be something better.
Not until you make one. Make sure UI doesn't look like shit and shill it on places where people might be interested.

Michael Collins
Michael Collins

This.
qTox working great for me on linux.
Being p2p and living right next to the friend I play with, it's hands down the best.

Mason Johnson
Mason Johnson

ordoevangelistarum.com/chat

Colton Reed
Colton Reed

tox id: 56A1ADE4B65B86BCD51CC73E2CD4E542179F47959FE3E0E21B4B0ACDADE51855D34D34D37CB5

96BE12EB9AF2F6851704412FA2981E03E_32BBD18D40F6040D01F107A20CACC07639D8D4F2A94

Asher Jackson
Asher Jackson

GNU Jami will eventually have these features, but not now.
jami.net/

William Howard
William Howard

didnt keybase (((accidentally))) send private keys to google?

Chase Rodriguez
Chase Rodriguez

Using an online service that has the private keys to your cryptographic keyring

How stupid can people be?

Asher Thompson
Asher Thompson

I wonder what's the difference between Jami and GNU Ring.

Evan Hernandez
Evan Hernandez

None. Ring changed its name to Jami. They have some bullshit reason for the change in their FAQ, but I think it's because they didn't want to get sued by those Ring IoT fucks.

Camden Robinson
Camden Robinson

based n redpilled

Alexander Thomas
Alexander Thomas

Unironically use a phone. Fills all categories.

Ethan Brown
Ethan Brown

Matrix doesn't have text channels.

u w0t m8?

James Gomez
James Gomez

test - win clasic

Asher Cooper
Asher Cooper

running on empty with mumble review.

Noah Wright
Noah Wright

Rocket Chat sucks
What sucks about it?

Blake Sullivan
Blake Sullivan

Only things bad about it, is the memory leak and having to disable a couple of the features because they are tied to google

Justin Hughes
Justin Hughes

Matrix doesn't have text channels.

Attached: lolwutnigga.jpg (33.08 KB, 500x425)

Tyler Butler
Tyler Butler

A friend tested Matrix recently and found up to a minute of lag when sending messages between two people on different continents using different homeservers.

Grayson Davis
Grayson Davis

Tell your friend to change his client's refresh rate.

Jack Robinson
Jack Robinson

text-based chat
up to a minute of lag
who gives a fuck?

Parker Nguyen
Parker Nguyen

2019: MSN Messenger
escargot.log1p.xyz

Jason Bennett
Jason Bennett

why do normies need a new platform every year.. irc just works and still exists but some of those proprietary things are already dead.

James Young
James Young

IRC is not enough, XMPP is at least feature-complete (text, audio, video, group chat, history)

Grayson Ross
Grayson Ross

why do normies need a new platform every year.. irc just works and still exists.

John Gray
John Gray

what's wrong with Tox?

Juan James
Juan James

It had really poor group chat functionality the last time I used it.

Owen Ortiz
Owen Ortiz

XMPP was made in 1999, it's not exactly new or anything

Angel Peterson
Angel Peterson

XMPP also uses xml, so it’s not ideal.

Elijah Williams
Elijah Williams

Which is why Matrix uses JSON

Ryan Baker
Ryan Baker

IRC.
There have been attempts to get rid of it for twenty years, each service died or got obsolete, bloatware, or flawed by security flaws or botnet.

Nothing replaces IRC. I tried, too. I came to the same point where even at work, choosing between Microsoft; Google; BlackBerry messenger..
"Let's just run a IRC server for the company."
One afternoon of config and mailing and it was done. All smartphones, desktops use it in internal.

Jaxon Fisher
Jaxon Fisher

IRC is not enough, XMPP is at least feature-complete (text, audio, video, group chat, history)
does XMPP support sending images? so can share CP images with pedo friends? I love CP

in your case it was simple because you could run IRC server at your company
what if someone needs group chat with bunch of people but not in office setting?

Charles Phillips
Charles Phillips

They add new features normies want or the previous one does something to piss them off. Discord was made by MS fucking up Skype so hard people left it. Discord made it easy to make chat rooms and servers so people flooded it using Facebook chat for IMs.

IRC is in a good place now TBH. It doesn't have the normies on it so you get away from them. It's only issue is finding rooms.

Ayden Wilson
Ayden Wilson

They add new features
If you count monitoring all content in a chat program a feature.

Anthony King
Anthony King

And 'priority speakers' that even when turned off causes people to talk over each other because they can't hear each other, and 'the quiet room' that causes casters to occasionally wonder where their audience went. And if Buzzfeed makes an article about HAYTE ONWHINE Discord will pull your server.

Brayden Bell
Brayden Bell

at least rizon is full of normies and kids

Jack Scott
Jack Scott

Get gassed faggot.

dosen't have normies
Which makes it hard to use it for projects and work.

Just use Riot. See

Jaxon Wright
Jaxon Wright

Is this good? chat.nobodyhasthe.biz

Eli Baker
Eli Baker

They don't keep your private keys, in the early version of the android app they didn't exclude it from android's backup system so the entire thing was getting backed up to Google's servers.

It seems they haven't released the server but intend to in the future, I didn't know this so thanks for causing me to look into it.

Disable AdBlock to view this page

Disable AdBlock to view this page

Confirm your age

This website may contain content of an adult nature. If you are under the age of 18, if such content offends you or if it is illegal to view such content in your community, please EXIT.

Enter Exit

About Privacy

We use cookies to personalize content and ads, to provide social media features and to analyze our traffic. We also share information about your use of our site with our advertising and analytics partners.

Accept Exit