it was an acronym some user came up with to go by when writing javascript (or judging others' use of javascript more likely lol), wasn't a big thread or anything, just a reply to someone else. I saved it but the external hard drive I had it on fucked up (don't buy toshiba HDDs, lads). I can't exactly remember what it stood for, but it was something like this
Minimal: your javascript should do its job with as little lines of code as possible, keep things simple, avoid bloat, overengineering, etc. Optional: website should work just as well with JS disabled as it does with it enabled. There should be no compromise in usability if the user chooses not to load your javascript Last-resort: only use javascript if there is no other way to do it; if the effect you want to achieve is impossible using just HTML/CSS (or server-side scripting I guess) Useful: self-explanatory, your javascript code should do something useful Safe/secure (I think): self-exp. again, but I'm not fully certain that I remember the word correctly Kosher: can't for the life of me remember what this one stands for. something about standards compliance maybe?
I definitely misremembered a lot of that, but maybe there's a chance someone else remembers (or even the person who wrote it). otherwise post rules/guidelines you work by when writing JS, tips 'n' tricks to make it less of a pain to deal with, etc.
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Gabriel Myers
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Zachary Howard
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Andrew Wood
What the fuck is wrong with that quote? Was it originally just schizo word salad or did you fuck with it?
Pathetic. Is it incomprehensible to you autistic retard that someone might find that post funny?
Michael Torres
"Optional" and "Last resort" seem like they would often be mutually exclusive. If the only way you can do something is in JavaScript, there's a good chance turning off JavaScript would break shit in a non trivial way.
Jason Reed
"Last-resort" means it can't be done with css, and it can't be done server side. A good example is the script that fills in reply ids here on Zig Forums. It's optional in the sense that you could type them in manually, but it's last-resort in the sense that there's no way to do it automatically without using js. Try it sometime. Posting works perfectly fine, you have to visit a separate page for the captcha, and reply ids have to be typed in.
Nathaniel Martinez
does React SSR count? it covers the O by rendering actual stuff on server and then "hydrating" (re-rendering some elements on client) the app on clientside. it may cover M, but I don't think so.
Bentley Sanders
JavaScript is language created by a man who donated $1000 to proposition which should've banned gay marriage in California.
William Morgan
*blessed by `hfs-bless`
Christian Hughes
It doesn't cover last resort: on the server you can and should use literally anything else
Josiah Wilson
Yeah just had a barely used Toshiba external HD corrupt an entire folder out of nowhere, losing some files that I can't get back.
Blake Morales
That sounds like a very nice set of guidelines, except wtf is kosher? Otherwise I would be completely fine with a site that followed these.
I wonder, since JS is open source by design, could we not rewrite cancerous JS'es on commonly used sites with non-cancer equivalents, then plug them in as drop in replacement through some kind of browser extension that works in conjunction or as a script blocker like uMatrix? The logo could be something like shellder or cloyster.
I don't think so. Optional means it's for a feature that won't break the site if turned off, like auto-updating on 8ch. Last-resort means that optional feature could not be implemented without JS. So if you're thinking of an optional feature that CAN be done without JS, like custom fonts, don't use JS to do it.
Josiah Hughes
JS is open-source only in the sense binaries are open source, minified JS as commonly used to "reduce bandwidth" is completely unreadable. Also, what's the point of that extension, doing these websites' developers' job for free?
Nicholas Richardson
So it's obfuscated? A lot of JS isn't very complicated though, it just calls one action or something.
Benjamin Rivera
The cancerous kind of JS you'd want to replace is pretty large. I tried to extract Volafile's API from their JS once and ended up with a 1MB blob of mystery code.
Xavier Bell
I was thinking of the superfluous JS that paints UI and opens links. File sharing sites are probably pretty complicated, since not only must they efficiently transfer data over a retarded medium, but also artificially throttle it to make goys pay up for (((premium))).
Andrew Collins
You can never do this using the js. It's often fairly easy if you use the network tab to reverse engineer it though. This is how I figured out the API that google custom search uses eg.
