(Effectively) Power-free computing

Alright so the CIA or your choice of any local three-letter agency is probably going to lynch us for discussing this kind of technology, but I've been looking into hardware components which I think are being under-utilised. What kinds of components? The sorts that could be used to do general desktop computing without bowing down to the Electric Jew. With some of these concepts put together, you could probably shitpost on 8ch with a hand-crank powered computer. Here are my findings:

Non-volatile RAM:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-volatile_random-access_memory
RAM which can store memory without persistent power. An SSD can be utilised as NVRAM, but there's been other methods to try to implement this. With an ideal implementation, powering off your computer would be equivalent to putting it in a hibernation mode.

e-Paper:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_paper
You probably associate this with e-Readers, and therefore annoying harry potter-reading single mothers but the truth is, these things are incredible. If it weren't for the costs associated with the other hardware of an e-reader, they could stay charged indefinitely. As you know, the thing which sets it apart from other low-power displays used in calculators and the like are viewing angle, and the fact that rather than blanking out when the power is cut, they have to actually wipe themselves clean. The refresh rate is terrible though, so this will be pretty grating with conventional, line-by-line text processing.

Etch-a-Sketch:
youtube.com/watch?v=0XM3BJDusBo
youtube.com/watch?v=bmDz3yQFOWc

Power Over Ethernet:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet
I'll admit this is cheating, but for most interesting tasks involving a computer, you'll need networking anyway.
If the requirements of having an Ethernet port at all are too steep, then we could scrap this and build a modem into the computer instead. If we do this, we have to account for the electricity the external phone uses as well.

Human Power:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_power
k-tor.com/hand-crank-generator/
I alluded to this earlier, and you might've taken it as shitposting. Just read the sales pitch, and you'll see that it's more than enough to power the kind of computer we're looking at.

Plug Computer Form Factor:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug_computer
Doesn't exactly align with the objective, since you can't really just power them off at will, but their low wattage (generally lower than the Commodore 64, apparently) still makes them useful if you need a computer that's active 24/7. You could use it for to run a bittorrent program, and maybe a web server I guess.

The ideal goal is to have a computer that consumes 0 watts in an idle state (idle meaning, any time you're busy reading text for more than ~4 seconds), and still a negligble amount of power when it's actually being used. This would mean that the computer is actually powered "off" for most of the time it's in use.
Is there anything stopping this from happening? I don't know whether you can just stop and start CPUs the same way you can with the RAM/monitor.

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And what advantage does not consuming energy give you over the CIA?

Well there must be some reason, seeing as it hasn't happened.
A more obvious thing that comes to the mind is the fact you wouldn't have to pay an electricity bill, put together with other things which eliminate your usage.

It all comes down to power management.
If you obtain more power than you are using you can go off innawoods to shitpost indefinitely.

Solar: Not good for DUMBs, cave, or basement dwelling.
Probably best off with an Earth battery or maybe Schumann resonance for energy harvesting - unless you're John Hutchinson and into crystal cell fabrication.

Take your meds, OP. The "CIA" doesn't go after anyone.

No need to go with such a complicated system. Just tie a kite to a lightning rod.


Oh, right. FBI then.

Wind-cranked CFR starters when?

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I recall a hand crank powered laptop that was sold in the middle to late 2000s.

The OLPC/$100 laptop. Failed because of useless features like a "hard drive", or a (touch screen) "coloured LCD".

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Wouldn't a diy powerwall that dumps power at a set interval every few days eliminate usage monitoring/hidden PLC?

Can you expand on that user? How does that matter, for example. You'll still pay for the electricity you consume off the grid correct?

The hand cranks are unobtanium but it runs off 12v power instead of 19v power like many laptops so it's fine to use it with normal car batteries. I believe it's spec'd to run on a pretty broad range, 11-18v and can tolerate power spikes pretty well. You could hook one of those up to a battery which is attached to a solar charger and run it indefinitely.

What's wrong with battery powered RAM devices? You could charge it using external solar panels or another battery, like from your car. Also, why not just build a huge battery bank to power a conventional computer?

Bike electric generators are improving in efficiency but are still considered inefficient: genesgreenmachine.com/spin-bike-rc-motor-powered-pedal-generator/

This. This thread is such a LARP it's not even funny. Just get a smartphone or a shitty laptop. If SHTF you'll waste way more energy operating power tools, pumps, radios, lights or refrigeration than with a damn laptop.
Having an ebook for low power information access is a good idea though.

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HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES

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HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES

HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES

I smell some satanic fuckery here.

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Judensheim pls go

Good idea user, but don't you think that idea is a bit too Jewish?

Wow. Just wow.

Shut up chaim.

I smell rats.

They went after Fidel Castro.
Not that I'm against it, but you're objectively wrong.

Why isn't it? Keep in mind not everyone is you.

i wonder what the power draw on this is.
when i think of these i think of smartphones/ arm devices, wouldn't those require less power?

you could probably build something with an arm SoC and a small battery that could be powered off of solar or a hand crank, obviously a smartphone is not comparable because you cannot install gentoo on it, you could rig something up pretty cheaply, the screen would probably cost the most.
could do away with all of this, use a cheap usb thumbdrive instead of a hard drive to save power and money, obviously whatever screen you feel like adding.

would be a fun project to try to build a super low power device that's still capable of regular computing.

What about perpetual motion machines? Like with a small motor to get it up to speed and magnets to harvest the electricity?
The idea is to get more energy back than you would put into it initially, and it could even be started by hand if need be, which could charge it up enough to spool up the motor to get some high amps out of it.
Thule used something like this for the discs IIRC.

so do you fags just sit and look at a empty terminal?

Glow harder

If we lived in a universe where it was even possible for a net positive amount of energy to be created from little or no initial energy, then I highly doubt such a universe would be very stable to begin with

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I don't recommend doing this but in case of extended power outage you can tap the telephone line for DC power. Don't make it a think because the phone companies will figure out a way to crack down on it. But it's there in case your power goes out in a blizzard and the phones remain on.

An RV solar setup that is self contained. When graphine supercapacitors become more commercially available you build a long term storage that never needs to be replaced. You put grapite oxide solution on a DVDR and burn it with a lazer make graphine if wanted to get autistic about it. You could hack the DVD burner to just constant burn whatever you put in there. Get a ton of grapine and make your own supercapacitors. Supercapacitors take a short time to charge can output a lot of power and hold a charge for a long time. Has the benefits of a capacitor and a battery.

You can get portable solar setups that are basically stand Alone. Goal Zero makes some nice gear. Cheapest stuff starts at like $100 goes up from there. You can get a bunch of these. Just get a much larger capacity that for what you are actually using and it will pretty stay charged forever.
goalzero.com/shop/kits/goal-zero-yeti-3000-lithium-power-station-boulder-200-briefcase-solar-kit/

Word to the wise on solar cells. Spend the extra money on a system with a built in regulator for the output. If you buy a cheap solar charger and plug your phone into it on a really sunny day it will burn up your device. Spend extra and make sure that comes with it. I made the mistake of buying a cheap chinese made solar charger and it killed my phone.

You can always buy an DC generator from an old bus or something like that and hook it up to stationary bike and pedal yourself some power.

One thing I thought to do was to get a shit ton of quartz crystals and use them in a few different ways. If you live next to a freeway, waterfall, ocean, or some other place with a lot of noise you can create a ton of little microphones. The sound will compress the quartz and create a piezoelectric effect. That's free power anywhere there sufficient noise.

Another thing you can do with quartz if you live somewhere it rains a lot you can create piezoelectric roofing. Every time a drop of water strikes the surface it generates a small amount of electricity. Unless you live somewhere it rains a lot this is just wasting time but it could supplement your solar, hydroelectric, wind, etc with piezoelectric power from sound and rain.

Another thing you can do since there are so many radio signals constantly is you can build a bunch of antennas and draw power right out of the air. Not sure if this is practical because it might take pretty large antenna.

Thermoelectric generator in form of a Heat Engine of a Seebeck Generator. I'm not totally aware of power production on Seebeck generators but I think it works like a thermocouple where you have two different conductors with different levels of [can't remember the word] like copper and iron is a classical build. You basically take the copper wire and the steel wire and twist them together than put one end in something cold and one end in something hot. The termperature gradiant causes some kind of reaction between the two conductors and makes electricity.

Hope that helps. Welcome to the cyberpunk distopian future user.

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A few ways of storing power people don't think of.

Build an array of air compressors. Fill the air tanks and used the compressed air to generate power when you need it.

Use DC current to .split() water into oxygen and hydrogen. Store the gasses. You can use the hydrogen Power a generator in form of hydrogen internal combustion engine or just burn the hydrogen and use it to heat water and power a steam turbine. You can capture some of the waste heat with themoelectric generators for maximum effeciency.

You can use hydrogen to power a vehicle but I think the engine head need to be made from titanium metal which lately is getting easier to produce. It will be cheaper in time and HIC engines will probably become more common.

Another thing you can do is grow corn, potatoes, or anything else that will ferment and create alcohol. Distill the alcohol and use it for fuel just like you would with gasoline or hydrogen.

How cost efficient would it be to generate power from solar cells vs burning wood to power peltier effect cells?


Unfortunately with POTS over fiber that shit doesn't work over here anymore.
I was wondering, since Kindle devices can be jailbroken, how long could the battery be extended if using custom software that doesn't have the bloatness that the stock firmware probably has? What about only reading .txt files? Would that be any better than ebooks? What about hacks so that the UI only has to update parts of the display?


I've looked into making your own electronic components, and believe me, it's not worth it. There isn't anything you can make at home that you can't pull out from the millions of dead boards that are always being thrown in the trash everywhere. I'm pretty sure it's not possible to make supercapacitors at home, otherwise they'd be in common use since the 50s or earlier.

Even though watts is measured per-second, wattage listing on a device, e.g., 60w, is how much wattage is used per-hour. An hdtv sceen (40w) and a laptop (60w) will run at ~100w x hrs/day. A 100w solar panel harvests ~100w/hr x hrs/sun.
You can shitpost for ~4hrs/day in the winter.

If you want the best battery build/buy sodium/nickel/chloride (saltwater+metal powder) batteries. No exploding, fires, or toxic chemicals, and it lasts forever as it is refilable. Casings are often recycled ldpe/hdpe (milk jugs/caps).

Is overdesigned shit-tier jewishness at it's worst.
You're better off buying a $50 controller and a lead-acid car/bike/boat battery and an extension cord.

Got any videos about it?

What do you guys think about this solar panel?
invidio.us/watch?v=hiA9C9H9GQk

The project got suicided when stupid Nicholas Negroponte decided they should also offer machines with Windows XP, that killed a ton of good will and their funding soon collapsed.

Water energy

go to a river, put your waterwheel that will generate electricity
plug in PC
run PC
watch child pornography for free

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Let me know when your hand-cranked air conditioning and hot water heater are working, user

solar cells with a regulator (no dont buy some overpriced branded "green" save the earth horse shit that only exists to take money from yuppie idiots)
water wheel generator plus nearest river
charging up batterys from the electricity of retail stores
piezolectric energy from noise pollution or the vibrations from a tall building or suspension bridge

What the fuck are you smoking? What can the CIA gain from knowing you charge your fucking laptop?


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If not bait, this thread is an excellent example of Schitzo-posting.

Some advice for newfags: A lot of posters on Zig Forums are seriously mentally ill.