Stallman Going SJW on us?

Henry Williams
Henry Williams

From Stallman's personal website: stallman.org/articles/genderless-pronouns.html
Writing or speaking English, we always face a conundrum when we need a pronoun to refer to a person without specifying gender. Previously we needed a way to cover both male and female; nowadays some people state that they don't want to be considered either of those.
Use an artificial new pronoun such as "ey" or "zhe". This solution works, and avoids the confusion of using "they", but people reject those pronouns because they do not fit naturally into English.
Stallman brings up various ways to solve the "genderless" issue. Using he/she doesn't quite cut it, since some people don't associate with either. Plus, it's "bureaucratic".
Here is my take on it. Use he or she depending on the person's sex, not gender. That solves almost all problems. There is only one problem. Which one do you use to refer to a hypothetical, imaginary person? Simple; use whichever. It's not a big deal... We are already doing it.

This article, along with other stuff on Stallman's personal website, makes me wonder if he is turning left, or whether he was always turned towards leftist politics. For example, he literally has a link towards an article about Bernie Sanders, and the link reads "Bernie Sanders for President". To be clear, that's not the article's title; that's just how Stallman named the link.. To be fair, there's another link titled "Support the Green Party". To wrap up, I respect Stallman, but I think articles dealing with pronouns is beneath him.

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gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome
stallman.org/archives/2011-jul-oct.html#06_October_2011_(Steve_Jobs)
pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html#faq-about-why
esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7294
esr.ibiblio.org/?p=209
youtube.com/watch?v=0dpv65FQOQw
boards.4channel.org/g/

Adam Hall
Adam Hall

Someone who eats shit from his feet is not a very sane person to begin with. Also unlike what /pol/ and leftists think, people can have a mixture of "good" opinions and retarded opinions because the world isn't black and white where everything is either 100% good or 100% evil. His unwavering stance on software and technology is mostly good, but his stances on politics are shit every time I hear of them.

Anyway it would be helpful to have a neutral pronoun in cases where you don't know the sex of the person. Using "they" often causes confusion, and using he/she implies to other people that you know or think you know the person's sex and it's whatever you called them.

Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

Just use he then. It's always was and always will be a sane default.

Matthew Thompson
Matthew Thompson

based

Always say "he". This was the rule in the time when sexism was official policy, but using it today would endorse sexism.

Camden Gonzalez
Camden Gonzalez

Try writing a story and using "he" for a mystery person who's meant to be female. The reveal and all of it's focus is going to unavoidably become "le omg she was actually a girl all along! XD bazinga" because you used the opposite pronoun for a long time. Use "they" and the reader will think there's more than 1 mystery people. This is a fundamental flaw in the english language and you're defending it because "lol it has been like this for a long time", it's like how Linuxfags defend stupid shit in Linux and are unwilling to compromise whatsoever even if they could keep doing the old thing just the same.

It's the same problem with the word "gender". Sexual intercourse and biological sex are completely different things that barely have anything to do with one another, so it makes perfect sense to use the word "gender" to refer to the latter and reserve "sex" for the former. Your "mental gender" isn't real anyway so it's obvious that the word when used would mean your biological "sex" and not what fantasies you have at night.

Bentley Richardson
Bentley Richardson

He's always been a socialist. He's just too autistic to really go full SJW, he's always going to piss off some tranny somewhere.

Jaxon Scott
Jaxon Scott

oh noooo I don't fully agree with someone, what will happen to this world?
it's you who sounds like a SJW to me, OP

Tyler Thompson
Tyler Thompson

This is nothing new.
stallman is the type of person who rather then say no will immediently try and find some sort of compromise, where he believes both parties could be satisfied, the problem with this notion is that means he isn't technically "sjw" because sjws are literally all insane and will demand you say their perfered pronoun rather then something general.
So he's basically tryign to find an impass for those who will never accept such.

So, in a way he kinda is and kinda isn't in the most autistic way.
You saw the same thing with the Code of conduct debate, he at first was completely 100% against it, but like all things he doesn't shove it off, he then backed down into creating in some form his own CoC that he thought would solve the issue, his solution was to accept a CoC but make it more general and try to apease both sides.

Hell, even "gnu/linux" showed this type of mindset, rather then state that it's the GNU system he went straight to gnu/linux.

Cameron Sanders
Cameron Sanders

Someone who eats shit from his feet is not a very sane person to begin with
It's dirt, idiot and normal. What do you think people did before nail clippers? You're out of touch idiot.

Adam Cook
Adam Cook

That's what I'm beginning to understand.
That's not at all what I said, friend. It simply came as a surprise to me, because about 1-2 years ago there was no leftist politics mentioned on Stallman's website. At least I didn't see any. Regardless, I have no problem with Stallman being a leftist, just as I don't have a problem with anyone being whatever. Why would that make me a "Social Justice Warrior"? I'm anything but that.

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Brody Reed
Brody Reed

You got a link for that debate?

Nicholas Kelly
Nicholas Kelly

pic related
Back when Linux first added a CoCk anons were going ape shit over it.
One user sent stallman an email asking what he thought and his reply was something along the lines of not liking CoCs because they are restrictive by nature.
However, somewhere he decided to put up his own CoC called gnu Kind gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html

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Angel Collins
Angel Collins

Got it. I didn't know, thanks.

Daniel Bennett
Daniel Bennett

he's had that sort of content for more than a decade
look at this article of his, for instance:
29 March 2010 ( Victorian Capitalism )
Iceland has banned strip clubs, under the influence of feminism gone awry. If the article's description is accurate, this law also bans commercial production of movies with nudity. I think this law is wrong, and the reasons given in this article are clearly not a justification for it.
If many strippers in Iceland are foreigners, it is legitimate for Iceland to bar foreigners from working in those jobs in order to make more work for Icelanders. Either Icelanders would do the work, or the clubs would close for lack of staff. Perhaps the clubs would have to improve the pay and/or working conditions for strippers in order to attract applicants.
That would be good, but it isn't what Iceland has done. If after this the strippers are not "happy in their work", perhaps it is proper to pass a law to help them. (I am not a supporter of laissez-faire economics.) However, what law would really help them? That depends on why they dislike it, and why they do that job despite disliking it.
Are some stripping because they are drug addicts? That's better than stealing because they are drug addicts. I don't think there is any reliable way to treat drug addiction, but I don't think unemployment is one of the recommend methods. Is it that their other options are worse? For instance, being broke? If so, the way to help them is not to ban stripping and force them into worse options, but rather to improve their other options.
Is it that they don't make enough to live on unless they do lap dances, and they don't like doing them? Requiring the clubs to pay strippers better, and other regulations, could eliminate that pressure. It is wrong to ban prostitution, but there is no reason why strippers should be pressured into also being prostitutes.
I think these supposed reasons are excuses, and the real reason is an irrational prejudice.
As regards whether prostitution is empowering or degrading to the prostitute, that depends on the conditions. Working on the street under the domination of a pimp is surely degrading. Being an independent courtesan is empowering compared with working at MacDonalds, and more honest than selling cars. In an ideal world, perhaps there would be no MacDonalds and no cars, but I don't see a reason to try to eliminate courtesans.

it's really unfair to call him anything close to SJW because of the article you mentioned. he's just high IQ and idealistic, and such people will tend to want equality among peers and individual freedom, and a broad definition of who their peers are. and the "genderless pronoun" matter as he presents it is a bona fide linguistics nerd issue.

Grayson Walker
Grayson Walker

I agree that he is smart, and that makes his articles even more odd. What's wrong with my solution - I don't claim to be the first to think of this - to the pronoun issues Stallman raises? Use he/she to refer to sex, and whichever you want for a hypothetical person. Like says, the idea of gender is pretty much man-made. So why over-complicate the issue when we can just dismiss it altogether? I was expecting Stallman's view on the issue to be similar with what I just described. That's why I was a bit shocked, and maybe disappointed, cause I generally regard him as a smart man.

Also, I will once more agree with . Stallman is not a SJW. He genuinely tries to find solutions, contrary to SJWs. Would you describe him as politically progressive or Liberal?

James Wright
James Wright

Also, I will once more agree with .
I meant to say >Also, I will once more agree with .

Xavier Wilson
Xavier Wilson

he cares about equality in a sense that is probably unappealing to shrieking SJWs, he doesn't care about corporations and states... he's pretty much the definition of a radical centrist.

Zachary Sullivan
Zachary Sullivan

Using "per" as a pronoun makes no sense grammatically because neither "he" nor "she" are syllables of "man" or "woman". Singular "they" and neutral "he" have centuries of precedence, so just use those when talking about a non-specific person. When talking about a specific person who does identifies with neither "he" nor "she", that's their problem, there is nothing but those two in human biology.

Stallman Going SJW on us?
Nah, he's just half-Jewish. He got the memo that said to give bad advice to the goyim, but he did not get the other memo that said not to actually follow the advice he gives out.

Gavin Allen
Gavin Allen

Using "per" as a pronoun makes no sense grammatically
Singular "they" and neutral "he" have centuries of precedence, so just use those
Nice mental gymnastics there, fag. Singular they makes no sense grammatically.

Thomas Garcia
Thomas Garcia

there is nothing but those two in human biology.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

Lucas Reed
Lucas Reed

LISPfags are degenerates that argue in favor of personal pronouns
It all makes sense now

William Jones
William Jones

now that you mention it, every single LISP advocate that I met IRL is a faggot
holy shit

Easton Cooper
Easton Cooper

cniles projecting

Dylan Moore
Dylan Moore

negro please

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Liam Gray
Liam Gray

Why are you bringing Haskell into this?
Oh wait, you're cnile. You've probably forgotten what we were talking about.

Jeremiah Robinson
Jeremiah Robinson

stallman is the type of person who rather then say no will immediently try and find some sort of compromise, where he believes both parties could be satisfied
He is the exact opposite of this. His stance on free software is completely uncompromising to the point where he will sperg out if you use the term "open source" in front of him or any other terms he dislikes (there's a whole list on gnu.org somewhere). He even rejects the term "FOSS" or "FLOSS" as the middle ground for "free software" and "open source".
You saw the same thing with the Code of conduct debate
His issue with CoCs was that they are often worded in such a way that threatens to exclude people from a project if they break the "rules" and are used as a policing tool in general. So his take on CoCs was to create "communication guidelines" which is supposed to serve a similar purpose, but without having a CoC enforcement team whose job it is to ban anyone who "steps out of line".
>Hell, even "gnu/linux" showed this type of mindset, rather then state that it's the GNU system he went straight to gnu/linux.
As for the GNU/Linux thing, he wants the efforts of GNU project to be recognized to spread his ideas of free software. He knows calling the entire system "GNU" is retarded because linux is an integral part of the system that someone else developed and he doesn't want to take credit for other people's work (this is in contrast to the people who insist on calling the whole system "Linux" which doesn't credit the work of the GNU project).

He is turbo autistic about "freedom". He believes you should have the freedom to say racist shit; a view SJWs reject. He may have some leftist views which aligns with SJWs, but he really isn't one at all. And he definitely doesn't give a fuck about satisfying any parties.

Mason Bell
Mason Bell

based

Camden Smith
Camden Smith

Sorry, I mean linguistically. Stallman proposes "per" because it is the first syllable of "person", but "he" and "she" are not syllables of "man" and "woman".

Those are men. Sure, men with deformed genitals, but still men, nothing in-between.

Robert Cooper
Robert Cooper

He believes you should have the freedom to say racist shit
LMAO, sure.. that's why this exists gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html
Clearly he's a true blooded /pol/tard like you and me ;^) mein fellow racist.

Grayson Roberts
Grayson Roberts

but "he" and "she" are not syllables of "man" and "woman".
So?
Those are men. Sure, men with deformed genitals, but still men, nothing in-between.
based

Try to reading a post before replying to it next time.
His issue with CoCs was that they are often worded in such a way that threatens to exclude people from a project if they break the "rules" and are used as a policing tool in general. So his take on CoCs was to create "communication guidelines" which is supposed to serve a similar purpose, but without having a CoC enforcement team whose job it is to ban anyone who "steps out of line".

Zachary Butler
Zachary Butler

why would a jew who spent his whole life petitioning about legal matters in software become an SJW?

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Chase Sanders
Chase Sanders

found the propriertary software shill

Chase Hall
Chase Hall

Can we talk about GNUs toxic masculinity?
Why does FOSS get a free pass for radical and extreme hate speech?
GNU transphobic programs, "man" and "woman", are part of a larger problematic "FOSS" community.
Why Richard Stallmans toxic masculinity and patriarchal mansplaining needs to be stopped.
Github removes incel FOSS users for hate speech during targeted harassment campaign across social media.
Richard Stallman; portrait of an incel cult leader
Why FOSS is pure white privilege and how we can fix this.
Tech giants lead fight against FOSS hate speech and radical software activism.
How FOSS subversives seek to undermine both US tech firms and the US elections.

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Ian Cook
Ian Cook

based.
OP confirmed glow in the dark CIA nigger.

Carson Ramirez
Carson Ramirez

gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html
The GNU Project encourages contributions from anyone who wishes to advance the development of the GNU system, regardless of gender, race, ethnic group, physical appearance, religion, cultural background, and any other demographic characteristics, as well as personal political views.
LOL!!!

Benjamin Brooks
Benjamin Brooks

FOSS
Uhm.. actually... it's "free software" FOSS is something different completely.

Adam Adams
Adam Adams

this whole thread

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Ian Campbell
Ian Campbell

From Stallman's personal website
Vote Green in Australia.
Support the US Green Party.
Support the Citizens' Climate Lobby.
Please donate to the Free Software Foundation to support its work for your freedom.
"They" is plural — for singular antecedents, use singular gender-neutral pronouns.

John Garcia
John Garcia

Newfag

David Gray
David Gray

be careful, he just discovered that he's not among national socialists after all. give him some space so he can deal with his feelings.

Oliver Ramirez
Oliver Ramirez

The GNU Project encourages
The GNU Project encourages socialism.

Isaac Ramirez
Isaac Ramirez

where does it promote gassing the kulaks?

Christopher King
Christopher King

anti-SJW thread
must be a nazi

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Blake Sanchez
Blake Sanchez

you know I'm right: the only people who care about dead ideologies are apologists of others dead ideologies

John Edwards
John Edwards

You are right about what? Me being a nazi? And that's based on an absurd hypothesis that
the only people who care about dead ideologies are apologists of others dead ideologies
First off, SJW is not an ideology, it's a description of a person. Obviously that person has some ideologies, but SJW is not one of them. There is no "SJW-ism". Second, even if SJW was an ideology, it would certainly not be a dead one. It's alive and well over at twatter, whence you came. And finally, you pathetic excuse of a human being, why the fuck would a person be a nazi if he/she opposes SJWs? SJWs are despised by pretty much anyone who is not on the extreme Left.

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Bentley Lee
Bentley Lee

durr SJW is not an ideology
you're right, but leftism tends to be

Easton Gonzalez
Easton Gonzalez

That's it? That's the best you could do? I responded with 3 solid arguments, and that was the best you could come up with? You are pathetic. Don't call people nazis if you can't back it up, kid.

Parker Jenkins
Parker Jenkins

pretending I was talking about SJWs isn't an argument, it's wishful thinking at best and lack of reading comprehension capabilities at worst

Oliver Adams
Oliver Adams

Stallman is a non-practicing jew, that's still a jew.
You have to be wary of his jew nature and hope it doesn't apply to free software.

Joshua Harris
Joshua Harris

autism.jif

Lincoln Thompson
Lincoln Thompson

because the world isn't black and white where everything is either 100% good or 100% evil
"Argument to moderation is an informal fallacy which asserts that the truth must be found as a compromise between two opposite positions."

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Blake Martinez
Blake Martinez

Also known as the dreaded compromise.
When a middle ground which satisfies neither side and has the disadvantages of both without the conclusions of either and ensures more conflict is to come is forced upon 2 conflicting parties.

Evan King
Evan King

Stallman is compromised. Just like with Linus.

Justin Gray
Justin Gray

Lol your ass is compromised. Linus is an open sore fag adding blobs to Linux. Introducing a CoC was actually a good idea, because he was just toxic. Stallman on the other hand have always been and will be protecting free software. He was a socialist all way long.

Carter Scott
Carter Scott

He was a socialist all way long.
Yes, but until the cock he always kept his evil politics separate from free software. It's part of what made FOSS good: you could be a cum-guzzling commie, literally Hitler, anarchist or whatever the fuck, if your code was good it was used and if it wasn't it was ignored.

Justin Howard
Justin Howard

RMS is ultra based.
It doesn't take special talents to reproduce--even plants can do it.
On the other hand, contributing to a program like Emacs takes real
skill. That is really something to be proud of.
It helps more people, too.

stallman.org/archives/2011-jul-oct.html#06_October_2011_(Steve_Jobs)
Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool, designed to sever fools from their freedom, has died.
As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." Nobody deserves to have to die - not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing.
Unfortunately, that influence continues despite his absence. We can only hope his successors, as they attempt to carry on his legacy, will be less effective.

Newfags don't even remember that RMS was in the picture. Now it's some mentally ill faggot whose only claim to fame are his inane ramblings that he livestreamed.

Thomas Reyes
Thomas Reyes

RMS is ultra
socialist
deal with it

Hudson Taylor
Hudson Taylor

LOOK MOM!!!11 I POSTED IT AGAIN

Ayden Nguyen
Ayden Nguyen

GPLv3 should we worded like Mein Kampf IMHO
Other than that Stallman needs to get gassed so we can make way for ESR
t. /pol/

Levi Edwards
Levi Edwards

ESR
He is a fucking retard. He fucked up Fetchmail: pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html#faq-about-why
He couldn't figure out how to concatenate two strings in Rust: esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7294
He spergs out in public: esr.ibiblio.org/?p=209
/pol/ indeed

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Nolan Hill
Nolan Hill

I copied unix then cleverly copyright fucked them teehee I'm such an original kike gimme money for free stuff

Liam Rodriguez
Liam Rodriguez

LOOK MOM!!!11 I MARXISM!!!!11

Jonathan Watson
Jonathan Watson

So why didn't you do it?

t. /pol/

Alexander Long
Alexander Long

<I copied unix then cleverly copyright fucked them teehee I'm such an original kike gimme money for free stuff
Yeah, copying isn't hard at all. Go and copy Mona Lisa or David sculpture and come back.

David James
David James

RMS trust the shit that he reads in papers.
If you want him to have more balanced opinions send him by email urls of blogs or papers.
He'll have a mitigated view of all this shit after some time.

Anyway it would be helpful to have a neutral pronoun in cases where you don't know the sex of the person
No it wouldn't, languages are already complex.
If people are angry because you made a mistake it's their problem to control their own feelings.
If people intentionally misgender them then that person should take his courage and ignore such teasing.
Just stop trying to find half assed solutions when the problems comes from yourself, even when it's people who are trying to start shit.

That only works when the subjects nature can't change, a rock is a rock there's no middle to that, people on the other hand have a various spectrum of reasons for their choice (normally) and can change/evolve with time.
Your reasoning is fallacious.
Want example of people who are intelligent but absolute insane ?
youtube.com/watch?v=0dpv65FQOQw

Justin Harris
Justin Harris

t. /trannypol/

Ryan Morgan
Ryan Morgan

languages are already complex
Agreed. That's why gendered pronouns should be removed from languages. They are actually fucking useless. Persons have names. Use those.
t. incel

Joshua Sullivan
Joshua Sullivan

That's why you give the mystery person a nickname. Much like how user is used. The problem has already been solved.

Brody Ward
Brody Ward

"that fucker" works too.
And Yes, Stallman is essentially encouraging something similar to the user thing.

Dominic James
Dominic James

Linus is toxic.
9 out of 10 times the people he ripped a new one utterly deserved it.
And 9 out of 10 is even when I'm putting the numbers in your favor.

Dylan Reyes
Dylan Reyes

Agreed. That's why gendered pronouns should be removed from languages. They are actually fucking useless. Persons have names. Use those.
They're not useless, they convey information you retard. Also you'd break the languages by doing that. Even if it were official most people would speak it wrong because your abomination of a language is fucked. And some languages have gendered objects for example, there's no way to remove the gender from them. For languages with three genders (male, female and neutral) you could make everything neutral but it'd sound wrong to everyone. And in languages with two genders you'd have to make everything female, which would sound wrong as well. Go speak lojban if you want a synthetic language.

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Ethan Morales
Ethan Morales

cunt is a good pronoun

Henry Hall
Henry Hall

Done. By viewing this image you forsake all your rights btw.

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Levi Kelly
Levi Kelly

What's that shit? If Stallman did the same to UNIX, it wouldn't work at all. I meant with a real brush and paint. Drawing UNIX shell on a piece of paper isn't a working operating system dumbass.

Jace King
Jace King

All hail St. Ignucius

Alexander Turner
Alexander Turner

Yeah if stallman copied the fucking code from unix it wouldn't work at all. Yeah totally. Congrats on not even understanding Stallmans entire point.

Dylan Gomez
Dylan Gomez

Be me
Years of Goodthink Training I have been trying to overcome
Constantly catching myself using the term "They" in a singular instead of "He"
It didn't use to be like this
What do I do to fix this learned momentary lapse of reason.

Bentley James
Bentley James

Install Gentoo and then kill yourself.

Carter Adams
Carter Adams

Zig Forums - Technology

James Nelson
James Nelson

RMS is technology

Kevin Ward
Kevin Ward

tbh it really should be:
Zig Forums - Software philosophy. because god knows no one actually talks about technology on thsi board

Brayden Lee
Brayden Lee

everyone knows politics of Free Software Foundation are somewhat uhh out of control, other than that its great organization

Dominic Sullivan
Dominic Sullivan

Stallman's been writing weird lefty shit on his blog since whenever. You can just safely ignore that type of stuff from him.

Colton Turner
Colton Turner

wtf is that video

Gavin King
Gavin King

This. It's the default in other languages like Spanish which have gendered nouns.

Michael Morgan
Michael Morgan

A painting was a bad example, especially in the information era. Software is different, because what you got is a nonfree binary and the source code is missing. So by looking at how a program works you must make the source code that'll do the same thing. That isn't easy at all. It's more like trying to build a car, without looking under the hood, while having basic mechanic knowledge. You see that it has wheels, drives, you can sit inside and drive it, but that's all.
I shouldn't explain it on Zig Forums, but guess you all are just LARPers not knowing even what they talk about, so you think copying is easy and make threads only about SJWs and CoCks.

Mason Collins
Mason Collins

lmfao you think GNU was a paper based reverse engineering of unix. Holy shit I haven't laughed this hard in years. Imagine being this delusional.

Nolan Smith
Nolan Smith

That's exactly what it was conceived as. Have you ever read Stallman's early Usenet posts on the GNU project?

Brody Hall
Brody Hall

RMS on gender
Just because a cow is perfect at producing milk doesn't mean I'd consult or listen to its opinion on macroeconomic factors giving rise to the depression in the first quarter of the 20th century.
TL;DR A cow outside of its field has no use to me.

Nolan Ward
Nolan Ward

GNU was conceived as a sight unseen RE of an OS whose source code was readily available.
Next post better be you pretending to be a dumbfuck this entire time.

Caleb Parker
Caleb Parker

Did UNIX braindamage destroy your brain?

Isaac Perry
Isaac Perry

Batshit insane autistic shitposter / shiteater detected

Angel Thompson
Angel Thompson

Use "they" and the reader will think there's more than 1 mystery people. This is a fundamental flaw in the english language and you're defending it because "lol it has been like this for a long time",
This is pure cringe. In nearly all (or all; I just don't know) European languages an unkown person is "he".
Sexual intercourse and biological sex are completely different things
No sexual intercourse clearly defined is putting your dick into a vagina faggot.
Law is a different matter and twist many words, so don't quote it.
You forgot to clean the shit of your dick btw.

Stallman is a fat kike who never did anything for Zig Forums but eat the shit from his toes.

David Evans
David Evans

Stallman is a fat kike who never did anything for Zig Forums but eat the shit from his toes.
Lol, what a LARPer. He did more than you without even programming, but I highly doubt you can do anything at all.
kike
Watch out! The joos are behind you! Fast, press Alt+F4 to evacuate, but remember to update your Windows 10 first!

Daniel Green
Daniel Green

riseup.net

Grayson Adams
Grayson Adams

Stallman is a fat kike who never did anything for Zig Forums but eat the shit from his toes.
emacs, gcc, gdb, etc... He doesn't do much coding now, but his contributions are undeniable user, even though he's a fat autistic kike.

Carson Cruz
Carson Cruz

Haskell, or rather Judaism: The Programming Language.

Proof that if a shitty, unoriginal language is written by, named after or heavily uses cultural references to The Chosen Ones, then a small contingent of the internet will always pretend it's good.
Coffeescript - Jeremy Ashkenas. White-space aware syntactic sugar for JS heralded as some kind of 'language'.
Haskell - Haskell Curry. Build tool literally called "cabal." Is OCAML but worse.
CommonLisp - Default REPL displays an ASCII menorah, because that has a lot to do with Lisp.

Robert Martinez
Robert Martinez

Haskell Curry wasn't a Jew. Cabal stands for Common Architecture for Building Applications and Libraries. The word "cabal" did originate ultimately from Kabbalah, but it went through Latin and French before arriving in Englilsh, where it has not had any particular Jewish connotation for several hundred years. At any rate, Cabal is not Haskell, or even GHC. It's a package manager for GHC, an implementation of Haskell. CLISP does, indeed, display the kike candles when you start its REPL. CLISP is an implementation of ANSI Common Lisp, but is not, itself, ANSI Common Lisp. Consider suicide.

Josiah Thompson
Josiah Thompson

Counterpoint: Having an identity and caring about it being recognized is the cancer killing the internet (and real life). We don't need identities. It doesn't matter if someone who can't see you calls you by the wrong pronoun. Your opinion has no additional weight based on that. Sure, it would be easy if English had a neutral pronoun, but it really doesn't. "They" is the closest and it only works under some contexts... and that's ignoring that it's grammatically incorrect to use it as a singular pronoun.

Stallman generally has some wisdom in what he says, but he tends to get off-track musing about non-tech issues. He doesn't like having to worry about bureucracy and people crying because "muh pronouns". It's a pain. He's not saying pronouns matter, he's saying they don't and there should be an easier way to avoid the issue entirely.

Personally, I think the best solution is just to acknowledge that "he" is more gender-neutral and even in Latin languages the masculine form is the default if there is any ambiguity or within mixed groups. It's only SJWs who sperg when their preferred snowflake pronouns for each of the imaginary friends in their heads get used wrong or not at all. Some women are particular about being addressed as such but that's when you remind them that there are no girls on the internet.

Isaac Brown
Isaac Brown

CommonLisp - Default REPL displays an ASCII menorah, because that has a lot to do with Lisp.
CLISP is not the default REPL, it's just one of many implementations. The name stands for C Lisp, as in "A lisp implemented in C". Use SBCL, it's better in every way anyway.

He's not saying pronouns matter, he's saying they don't and there should be an easier way to avoid the issue entirely.
Correct, the problem is that his type of solution is just giving more legitimacy to the problem. The proper way to deal with genderfaggots is to just ban them when they start making trouble, but if you did that they will call a witchhunt on your ass. It doesn't matter that they are 0.000001% of the "online community" (or whatever you want to call it), if that 0.000001% organizes through social media and starts calling your employer every few minutes you'll be out of your job in less than a day.

Jayden Roberts
Jayden Roberts

how would they know about your employer in the first place user? dont be a faggot

Ethan Cruz
Ethan Cruz

He's done it again on shit talking sargon
https://stallman.org/archives/2019-mar-jun.html#12_June_2019_(Far_right_rape_jokes)
I'm starting to not like stallman tbh

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Landon Sanders
Landon Sanders

Oy vey he doesn't like my favorite kikeceleb, don't you all think he's a bad person now??

Dylan Ortiz
Dylan Ortiz

who?
Also rape jokes are funny.

Jonathan Rivera
Jonathan Rivera

stallman shared some article defending Jess Phillips on his site and called him "far right"

Austin Hughes
Austin Hughes

who?

Nathan Gonzalez
Nathan Gonzalez

stallman is right
who cares you massive faggot

Joseph Perez
Joseph Perez

There are no girls on the internet.
This is exactly why I use "he" everywhere.
Also, "he" can be a typo (not hitting a character properly), while "she" can't.

Jaxon Campbell
Jaxon Campbell

languages are already complex
Separating different meanings with a new word is too complex for you? Meanwhile "lol" is semi-officially part of English now.

Daniel Diaz
Daniel Diaz

Rape jokes always sound forced.

Also, whats wrong with it, as in, "We don't know who it is." There was a perfectly good word already available.

Cooper Roberts
Cooper Roberts

Rape jokes always sound forced.
based

Isaac Nelson
Isaac Nelson

back to boards.4channel.org/g/ you go

Eli Reyes
Eli Reyes

they are confessing that they would rape someone else
LOL!!!

John Diaz
John Diaz

I definitely would rape someone if I can pull it of without getting v&.

Wyatt Ramirez
Wyatt Ramirez

who gives a shit. just call people by their preferred pronoun. or be an asshole and dont but then take the consequences of being an antisocial asshole

Lincoln Collins
Lincoln Collins

Using special pronouns at all makes you a massive dick. People have enough shit to worry about, don't expect them to ask and remember everyone's special pronouns when "he" and "she" already cover everything except a tiny subset of intersex mutants.

Zachary Scott
Zachary Scott

I agree with you when it comes to snowflake pronouns. but if a transperson wants to be called her instead of him or vice versa, then you're the massive dick for not doing so

Isaac Cruz
Isaac Cruz

He's done it again on shit talking sargon
Talking shit on Sargon is always good.

Jonathan Russell
Jonathan Russell

Stallman doesn't know what he's talking about here. His only knowledge about Sargon is the fake news media propaganda. He doesn't know the context surrounding this particular joke.

Alexander Mitchell
Alexander Mitchell

Trannies don't change sex, they pump themselves full of hormones and get cosmetic surgery to play along with their delusion, a delusion with high suicide rates even the countries most tolerant of them.

Sebastian Torres
Sebastian Torres

Who gives a shit. Kikes don't stop being kikes just because they work a programmer job, but I wouldn't call a coworker a fucking kike nonetheless. Would you?

Landon James
Landon James

snowflake
defends a snowflake position
transperson
That's not a word and doesn't appear in my dictionary. Go back to trannypol.

Carter Turner
Carter Turner

Damn it. Forgot pic.

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Ryan Hall
Ryan Hall

I refuse to treat people with common courtesy because of my autistic snowflake rage
You are everything you hate.

Luis Perry
Luis Perry

/g/index.html >>>/lgbt/
The fucking state of the trannys trying to bluepill stallman

Alexander Cook
Alexander Cook

That's nothing compared to /hypno/'s trannies.

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Jaxson Parker
Jaxson Parker

Your mentally ill.

Hunter Garcia
Hunter Garcia

You're mentally ill, you have narcissistic personality disorder. Get help.

Jason Miller
Jason Miller

SARGON BELONGS IN THE OVEN

Adam Baker
Adam Baker

Shouldn't you be dilating?

Parker Roberts
Parker Roberts

see a psychologist, decreased ability to feel empathy is mental illness

Connor Peterson
Connor Peterson

see a psychologist, above normal ability to feel empathy is mental illness especially tfor other mental ill people

Kayden King
Kayden King

if you don't use made up pronouns you don't feel empathy
/tranny/index.html

Jose Gomez
Jose Gomez

lmao you're literally a demented psycho, you're even more insane than these psychotic trannies. how does it feel to be absolutely fucking insane? this is why you have no friends

Liam Nguyen
Liam Nguyen

not what i said, sub 70 iq retard

Liam Baker
Liam Baker

He already does indirectly you just need to learn reading between the lines, its on the part where it mentions proprietary software are harmful and thus deserve a gassing. :^)

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Cameron Moore
Cameron Moore

feeling empathy for psycho
ever
bet you feel empathy for youself too, psycho seething tranny

Carson Young
Carson Young

we should have no empathy for the mentally ill
you're literally a sociopath. you are mentally ill

Isaac Gomez
Isaac Gomez

I'm glad that trannies kill themselves and I hope more will. I'll use the wrong pronouns and general ridicule towards them to inch them ever closer to suicide. Just because I think it's funny. Stupid faggots.

Adam Miller
Adam Miller

1) Empathy is something you're biologically supposed to experience toward being similar to you; because empathy and projection are basically the same.
2) Disgust is also a biological mechanism that obviously inhibits empathy.

I didn't even read what you were replying to, just wanted to point out your retardation.

Luke Cox
Luke Cox

yes you did

based

John Edwards
John Edwards

Mentally ill sociopaths. You are literally more mentally ill than the tranny because at least it only hurts itself, your illness makes you hurt everyone around you.

Jace Williams
Jace Williams

Nah, I'm only nasty to trannies and other shit people that make this world a worse place to live. To decent people I am decent too.

Liam Garcia
Liam Garcia

Careful, your projection is showing

Elijah Morgan
Elijah Morgan

We should have empathy for the mentally ill
Attack user who he thinks is mentally ill
ebin DIDposter

Nolan Hill
Nolan Hill

Join up and hate on the trannies with us: juSQzW

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Jose Ramirez
Jose Ramirez

Join up and love on the
trannies with us: juSQzW

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Caleb Russell
Caleb Russell

I agree
t. Chinkcoder

Christian Richardson
Christian Richardson

Stallman is a blind pig, and free software is the one acorn he's found. His opinion on anything else is pretty much worthless.

Ethan Edwards
Ethan Edwards

Try writing a story and using "he" for a mystery person who's meant to be female. The reveal and all of it's focus is going to unavoidably become "le omg she was actually a girl all along! XD bazinga" because you used the opposite pronoun for a long time. Use "they" and the reader will think there's more than 1 mystery people. This is a fundamental flaw in the english language

Or perhaps it is a flaw in your writing. Men and women are NOT interchangeable. If you are writing about a mystery woman use "she", problem solved. The sex of the person cannot be a mystery if you're going to be telling anything more than, say, a few times and places this person appeared. As soon as there's any kind of detail to the person, a description of lived experience, we need to know the sex. A neutral pronoun would not help, it would merely enable bad writing. The reader would still picture the person as either male or female and rightfully so. People are either male or female, barring some extremely rare genetic defects.

Josiah Sanders
Josiah Sanders

Also unlike what /pol/ and leftists think, people can have a mixture of "good" opinions and retarded opinions because the world isn't black and white where everything is either 100% good or 100% evil.

Also unlike what /pol/ and leftists think...
actually, almost all imageboard users

Nicholas Diaz
Nicholas Diaz

Damn this website is ugly on mobile. It's not hard to use the responsive meta tag but for Stallman it is apparently.