I don't know why this isn't more discussed. Instead of chatting on places with regular easily parsable letters, why not use UTF-8 alternatives that are both easy to read (hopefully very similar so other people don't complain) but harder to parse and analyze?
a) Post character sets that can be used for this
b) Discuss tools/ways to apply them to systems/applications (I've used Autohotkey for this before)
Also the characters should be common enough to be viewable to other people (and yourself) in most cases.
Jose Jackson
Yeah, I thought about making a webapp that does this to text to help fight censorship. People already do this to make fancy usernames on sites like Twitter. Just go through a string and randomly select similar looking characters. Throw in some zalgo, and you can get around wordfiltering pretty easily.
Here's another set (some letters are normal): ᗩ ᗷ ᑕ ᗪ E ᖴ G ᕼ I ᒍ K ᒪ ᗰ ᑎ O ᑭ ᑫ ᖇ S T ᑌ ᐯ ᗯ ᙭ Y Z
Tyler Long
It's called unicode, nigger.
Camden Butler
If you're worried about linguistical fingerprinting then this will make it worse, because just the fact that you're a member of the group who posts in weird glyphs makes it easier to identify posts made by you. Not to mention that if you post without protection all the agencies have your IP and thus your ID already. If you're worried about automated analysis for purposes other than de-anonymization, I wouldn't worry about it. This place is interesting and low volume enough that every posts is probably read by an actual agent rather than just an AI, and current AI is too dumb to dox people from random details posted anyway, so what could they achieve by running an AI over all the posts that isn't achieved by human review? Besides, if they really wanted to spy on you that bad and had an advanced AI capable of analyzing natural text, they could bypass character substitutions pretty easily. It's just a matter of taking a bunch of substitutions like in , automatically generating a couple gigs of scrambled words, and feeding the original plus the modified words to a seq2seq network to obtain the original un-scrambled word.
Brody Carter
Sure but that'd take some time until the changes trickle down to all the other AI tools, plus the extra processing might cause them to be a bit slower overall. And yeah, unless most people is doing it it's just some sort of signature.
Fuck off.
Adrian Russell
He's right, though. utf-8 is an encoding for Unicode. The encoding is largely arbitrary from an end-user perspective.
Not a bad idea. A script to quickly generate images based on input text would be nice.
Thomas Carter
What the fuck are you talking about? Are you advocating a removal of UTF-8 and replacing it with something like EBCDIC? Or are you suggesting we use obscure Unicode Characters involving different fonts that look like latin characters? If it is the former, you can try all you want but you're 20 years too late. If it is the later, this post is just awful and it is painfully obvious you do not belong here.
For a short time in 16chan(?) there was a script that let you convert the text in posts from/to unreadable characters. Nobody could read it except for people who had that script. I think it was called niggertexting or something.
My idea was similar. You'd have a list of possible unicode substitutions (including not even making a substitution), and randomly pick one for each letter, and maybe pepper in some meaningless diacritics to pad it out.
Cooper Ward
Is there a way to encrypt messages, so that you give everyone you want to be able to read it a (different) key, and when you don't want anyone to be able to read your new messages anymore after some point, you revoke their key, but the others don't need to change theirs? I can image doing this by encrypting each message with a different key and adding an encrypted form of the message's key for each person, but can this be done in a way that doesn't add multiple bytes of overhead for each additional person you add to the list?
Jordan Smith
"Key revocation" is not a thing, even if the cryptotards try to make you think it is (can't sell the "identity-based" "encryption" scam otherwise). What you describe is simply not encrypting to some person you dislike, nothing is being revoked. The "key revocations" you likely heard about are simply signed messages saying "oops lole don't use key XYZABC". This is how current systems like PGP do it. No known method afaik. I highly doubt that it is possible because of information-theoretic limits; this is no proof though. Even if possible, I would expect it to have a massive cost upfront that makes the scheme impractical. That said, don't take my suspicions as gospel.
I don't think that will work. Let's say there are ten different glyphs that look like the letter A, then all a parser has to do is look up what glyph corresponds to to unscramble the message.
For example, the unscrambler could look like this: char scrabled = getchar();char unscrambled;if scrambled in [𝐀, 𝐴, 𝑨, 𝒜, 𝓐, 𝔄, 𝔸, 𝕬, 𝖠, ...] unscrambled = A;else if scrambled in [𝐁, 𝐵, ...] unscrabmled = B;else if ... You get the idea. Adding diacritics just adds a bit of overhead to the process, but that's it.
Parker Phillips
Yeah, I proposed a neural network based approach to handle ambiguous characters or misspellings, but that works too for most cases. The big guns like the NSA probably have that in place already, it would be pretty ridiculous if you could bypass Echelon just by using some l33tspeak.
Asher Kelly
GNU Unifont solves this problem - it is one of not many free fonts supporting the entire Unicode.
Angel Wright
what the fuck is this retarded shit? is this babbys first encryption algorithm? kill yourselves
Brody Davis
It's not an encryption algorithm you pretentious fuck, it's just a small change that if adopted could _potentially_ make it harder for some automated text processors. Sure it can be easily hardcoded to avoid this and it probably already is, but likely not on all systems. Also stop telling people to kill themselves, it's not nice or necessary.
Carson Baker
reminder to learn your alternate characters. t. Chinese who hates how UTF-8 fucked Chinese
Jason Watson
This is dumb shit. They should remove it and add the hooked/runic cross and other common symbols. Same for emojis and other garbage.
It didn't. You have traditional characters. If you're talking about the CJK-Unification, that's completely justified. Just use a specifically Chinese font on your Chinese website or in your document. German fraktur doesn't work with a lot of other European languages like English and all European letters have been unified too. However I only hear you god damn ant people bitching about it. It's actually a pro because it makes it easier to identify letters. We already have enough letters in Unicode that look the exact same.
Aaron Peterson
kill yourself
Fuck chinks. I hate you fucks even more than niggers and jews. I hope you gas yourselves to death over there.
Jeremiah Price
Holy shit dude, how new are you? Did you arrive from 4cuck yesterday, or came straight here after hearing about Tarrant on the news? Or was it after the_donald was banned on reddit a few days ago?
Ayden Walker
because its already done where needed, even by 12 year olds. the normal solution to this problem is to just use end to end encryption for talking to people
Camden Gonzalez
KILL YOURSELF
James Lopez
Blame your language lad, something with 50k primitives is not an alphabet. Hebrew and Arabic deserve the gas too for the right-to-left bullshit.
Cooper Martin
Second Exodus. You? I don't care. Kill yourself.
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Jack Powell
You've just described the weakest encryption scheme I've ever heard of.
Sebastian Jenkins
Then you should go back to schizoposting wherever else and let the non retarded non mentally ill adults speak.
use a Chinese font on all documents because Chinese characters are supposed to be written as Chinese characters.
Lucas White
back to cuckchan with you
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Jaxson Nguyen
I'm based and I'm telling you to fuck off. You're sequential based/unbased rating of posts just shows your high inclination to rating systems. Go to reddit or something and don't come back!
Tyler Anderson
Aww, the newfag is now repeating words he doesn't understand. How cute.
Brandon Martin
retroactive unbased
Not anymore :^)
Isaac Mitchell
I've been using the word LARPing on this board for quite some time. You have just outed yourself as a newfag. unbased btw
Brody Walker
Yeah, no, more like we have a constant stream of newfags from cuckchan Zig Forums like yourself who use "LARP" as a general insult along with retarded shit like replying to everyone telling us if you agree with them or not. Pro tip: nobody cares. If you have something interesting to say say it, otherwise stfu.
Lincoln Jones
Wrong. I'm responsible for at least 80% of the usage of the the word LARPer on Zig Forums. Stop LARPing as an oldfag.
Yes, when accusing somebody of pretending to be something he isn't. I wasn't claiming anything about myself in the post he replied to. Using LARPer as a general "no u" is more of a thing done by 4cuck Zig Forums schizoids. There are plenty of schizos on here too, but they have other mannerisms.
Bentley Martinez
Your also responsible for 100% of the based spam you faggot.
Josiah Allen
correct
Samuel Parker
it will be fixed quickly if you use it to say those "nazi" things
Levi Ortiz
"Social media" is designed to extract as much info about yourself as possible. I wouldn't use it at all.
Ethan Gonzalez
Pretty silly idea. Some search engines already do things like find words with an "ä" in them when you typed something with an "a" (and have been doing that for years). Maybe you can find some other substitutions than one letter -> one glyph, so that the text can only be recognized by looking at whole words.
Better transform the output into an image and add mild distortions. Feature idea: When making a text-pic you can set a key word, put some letters in brackets when typing, these letters disappear in the image generated, people looking at the picture in the same program can enter the key word to reveal the full text. The information is hidden in image noise. Though, if you are more lazy and don't want to do picture generation and you just go with UTF-8 and each letter being replaced with one glyph, given that there are so many replacement candidates for each English letter, you can just use that to encode the hidden letters.
The snowflakes would be good for whether reporting but the gender symbols? ⚤ is also fucking gay. Why is there a bisexuality symbol and not one symbol with the male arrow going through the female circle? Fucking niggercattle.