Malcolm X or MLK

Look user maybe your right, but my point was at the time of his death that MLK's socialism was closer to social democracy than seize the MoP. If there's an alternative universe where he survived I hope that he got and staid more radical but right now I'm drunk and depressed so maybe that's affecting my analysis. In any case I don't think we should try to claim MLK was more radical than he was, he already is a hero to the working class and doesn't need to be lionized for us to admire him and be inspired by him.

I bet if X were alive today he'd be smoking hookah and killing moderators with his AR15

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OP here.


Fair enough. He is, however, beloved by Black Lives Matter, so I somewhat associated him with idpol. Maybe his strategy was weak, not his ideals.


Yeah, I know. He even got along with neonazis, if only because of his black nationalist ideals. His strategy, however, seemed far more effective than MLKs (agressive defense vs MLKs bourgeois pacifism).

So far, I can somewhat see MLKs ideals are prefered, but Malcolm X's strategy was far superior.

Violent resistance from a position of a numerical minority is just starting a fight you can't win. MLK was more influential in his own time, because his (ideological, but also tactical) pacifism did a great job of influencing public opinion. It's a propaganda war either way and violence isn't always the most effective tactic.

MLK was sucdem because that's as far left as he had time to move before he got assassinated. He wasn't always interested in economic critique. IIRC it was something he came around to later on.

Both are pretty good but a third contester is arguably better than both…

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I agree both were very valuable to black advancement. However the lessons and actions of the original BPP are some of the most important things black Americans could today adopt. Just my two cents.

Any socialist organization should adopt some of the tactics that they employed. They scared J. Edgar shitless when they began providing for impoverished communities.

This.


Ben Fletcher>Hampton>MLK>X
libcom.org/files/BEN_FLETCHER.pdf

Although X was much more radical in terms of actual black nationalism, the difference between MLK and X is mainly praxis/rhetoric.

Besides, Fred Hampton is honestly the ideal figure to look at in terms of blacks building a class movement.