Does the right have any actually good arguments in favor of tradition and...

Brayden Ortiz
Brayden Ortiz

Does the right have any actually good arguments in favor of tradition and heritage?

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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinča_symbols
bostonglobe.com/ideas/2017/06/13/why-wonder-woman-reading-sumerian/jkwc0l8K2XFUSywi4CDR7N/story.html
openculture.com/2014/04/j-r-r-tolkien-snubs-a-german-publisher.html
mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/coli_a_00011
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/01/140126-blue-eye-spain-fossil-human-discovery-gene/
doiserbia.nb.rs/img/doi/0350-0241/2014/0350-02411464007R.pdf
csustan.edu/sites/default/files/History/Faculty/Weikart/Marx-Engels-and-the-Abolition-of-the-Family.pdf
blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/07/17/more-evidence-that-our-cro-magnon-ancestors-shunned-neanderthals/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4933530/?report=classic
genetics.org/content/early/2013/02/04/genetics.112.148213.short
youtu.be/MwJUejcqqzA
pnas.org/content/108/37/15123
bbc.com/earth/story/20150805-neanderthals-strange-large-eyes

Josiah Butler
Josiah Butler

no creativity
not even photoshopped /pol/ meme, literally msPaint tier

the left can't meme.

Alexander Williams
Alexander Williams

ooooh tssssss

someone got BURNED

Leo Martin
Leo Martin

Does the right have any actually good arguments in favor of tradition and heritage?
Yes.
It involves a healthy respect and appreciation for what your ancestors chose to build before you, allowing you to grow up in a better world, while inspiring you to leave an even better future for those who come after you.

I mean, look at the retard communist """counter-argument"""".
<YOU DIDN'T BUILT THAT
<WHAT, UR PROUD OF SHIT YOU NEVER DID?
<BLACK HISTORY MONTH RULES!!!!
Instead, I'll just take a moment of silence for everyone that came before me, that build a better world for me.
I only hope I can live up to everything they did for me.

Jose Wood
Jose Wood

a healthy respect and appreciation for what your ancestors chose to build before you,

like the invention of writing, and cities? Are you from Iraq?

Parker Walker
Parker Walker

I've found it useful to have as a default setting/configuration to either conform to or dissent from. Though I'm lefty so idk if that counts.

everything has to be muh meems because I'm 12
/pol/ invented the aeroplane memes
checkmate leftist CUCKS!
heh

(you)
It involves a healthy respect and appreciation for what your ancestors chose to build before you, allowing you to grow up in a better world, while inspiring you to leave an even better future for those who come after you.
I'm not against that. I do my level best to respect anybody who's meaningfully productive.
counter-argument
Not us and stale strawman tbh.

Elijah Morgan
Elijah Morgan

that image
"fucking white males!"
Stop being so liberal.

But to the point, there are practical arguments in favor of specific traditions, even some many leftists call reactionary, but favoring tradition for its own sake is brainlet tier, I mean /pol/ is so stupid they think meme quality is a legitimate political argument. Honoring heritage isn't really positive or negative, but it is very good for social cohesion and personal inspiration so there's pragmatic grounds for supporting it.

Cameron Brown
Cameron Brown

the current crop of stds is getting more and more untreatable, wait another generation when super aids and mrsa is spreading like wild fire and you will know that we were right

Nicholas Johnson
Nicholas Johnson

Millenials and zoomers are less sexual than previous generations, though, and social conservatism isn't exclusive to your side.

Leo Lewis
Leo Lewis

they think meme quality is a legitimate political argument

Look at the eyes. They're pointing different directions. Is that your argument? Heritage, tradition, and culture are fake because the character is cross-eyed? Why is it only a white guy? I thought blacks had a proud history of Kanghood (Benin Empire and Ghanan empire) and passing down folklore through storytelling (lionKing). He made it white to attack just white people, not the idea of heritage.

Living your life to hand off this world for the next generation is an absolute must. If even one generation decides to be selfish, the system breaks down. The boomers, through their greed, have left the gen X'ers, millennial, and Gen Z out to dry. Arguably, politics would never have heated up as much as they have now if the boomers had been less greedy.

WW2 vets came home after the war and worked their asses off, just to provide for their children. There was no reason to work more than 40 hours a week, as even low wages at that time were enough to support children and buy a home, but for some reason the vets worked harder just to give their children as many resources as possible. The post-ww2 boom is a good lesson for all generations, that working hard for the next generation can leave them wealthy, but that wealth can corrupt and turn the kids spoiled.

Kayden Lee
Kayden Lee

What are you even trying to say here?

Blake Barnes
Blake Barnes

Yes, I never disagreed with any of that. I just called out OPs image as idpol for mocking whites specifically.

Benjamin Gray
Benjamin Gray

The boomers were so greedy that they weren't just satisfied with the enormous wealth their parents gave them, they also had to take out loans on their childrens' behaves. There wouldn't be any calls to overthrow capitalism if generational wealth was maintained. Heritage is how you maintain generational wealth.

The chinese have a saying:

"Generation 1 builds wealth from scratch, Gen 2 is inspired by the raw dedication of the first, but Gen 3 never meets Gen 1 and feels entitled and lazy and squanders everything.

Great depression era works their asses off and tries to be prudent, the next generation grew up as depression era children and work their asses off and get wealthy, but the boomers didn't grow up with the previous hardships.

Ayden White
Ayden White

It involves a healthy respect and appreciation for what your ancestors chose to build before you, allowing you to grow up in a better world, while inspiring you to leave an even better future for those who come after you.

Tard-tier argument. 99.9999999% of people's "ancestors" were mud flinging serfs who most likely never created anything of note.

I only hope I can live up to everything they did for me.

By staying in your mother's basement and jacking off the chinese cartoons ? You'll be the envy of those serfs.

Landon Scott
Landon Scott

Without Culture, Tradition and Heritage being taken into account, humans become into numbers. This makes them easier to divide and then conquer. Now I wonder what's happening in the US, with all Blacks, Whites, Mexicans, Etc. being told that their culture is offensive? Huh. I wonder if ☘️porky☘️ is behind this.

Sebastian Lopez
Sebastian Lopez

Porky is Irish

I guess der ewige Jude is no longer in vogue for repressed manchildren

Cameron Rivera
Cameron Rivera

How new are you?

Adam Anderson
Adam Anderson

Actually nearly everyone is descended from someone of renown, nobility, etc, because the population sizes were so much smaller and because royaltly used to keep hundreds of concubines merely for breeding and had many, many more children and could afford to keep them alive much better than serfs.

But I mean if pseud genetic elitism based on feelz instead of realz is your thing then best of luck to you.

Levi Robinson
Levi Robinson

he hasn't heard
Gooood sassanach

Some of us have more inhigh breeding than others

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Hunter Williams
Hunter Williams

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Caleb Flores
Caleb Flores

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Connor Thompson
Connor Thompson

Writing was invented by the vinca culture. Just google vinca script.
Are you from Iraq
Sumerian civilization was already gone for around 3000 years before Arabs migrated into Iraq. Pic related.

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Julian Parker
Julian Parker

also, the original people of india were eight-limbed humanoid elephants. pic related.

Christian Brooks
Christian Brooks

Exaggerated false equivalency only makes you look bad.

Michael Torres
Michael Torres

And yet it's ironically fascist strongmen that are most likely to see their people as disposable tools to be used to fulfill his territorial ambitions. How great did the individual fare under Uncle Adolf?

John Allen
John Allen

ALL OF MY ANCESTORS WERE RETARDED
Well, that certain explains the current state of (You)

Nathan Thomas
Nathan Thomas

Vinca script
It is a huge assumption to claim that the Vinca did it first. Dispilio has the oldest verified claim, and the Peiligang have an even older, if just as suspect, claim to the distinction.

Jackson Adams
Jackson Adams

Dispilio and the Vinca are both in Greece. Peiligang is older than both though.

Wyatt Bailey
Wyatt Bailey

The Vinca were in what is now Transylvannia.

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Noah Rodriguez
Noah Rodriguez

Proven values vs an unknown future.

Nathaniel Hughes
Nathaniel Hughes

Proven to accomplish absolutely nothing, that is.

Isaiah Rodriguez
Isaiah Rodriguez

what do you mean by accomplish?

modern progressive values have only made life shallow, look at suicide rates drug addiction prostitution etc

Noah Davis
Noah Davis

Vinča """script""""

No serious scholarship considers the symbols to be an actual language other than as crude pictograms which were not uncommon 5000-4000 BCE. I guarantee you cannot source this claim.

Sumerian civilization was already gone for around 3000 years before Arabs migrated into Iraq.

lel he didn't even mention Arabs but of course you inferred it, fucking idiot.

blueeyesumer.jpg

I really hope you're not so far gone that believe that Sumerians were indo-European peoples or even white-skinned… The native name Sumerians gave themselves literally means black headed people for fucks sake

Brody Baker
Brody Baker

Writing was invented by the vinca culture. Just google vinca script.

I did. This is from an article on Wikipedia:
"It is unknown which language used the symbols, or indeed whether they stand for a language at all."
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinča_symbols
The article does mention a scholar called Marija Gimbutas, who thought it was writing. But it's scholarly opinion, its not been proven that that is the case.
Sumerian is known to be writing, you can even study it:
bostonglobe.com/ideas/2017/06/13/why-wonder-woman-reading-sumerian/jkwc0l8K2XFUSywi4CDR7N/story.html

Sumerian civilization was already gone for around 3000 years before Arabs migrated into Iraq. Pic related.

By that reckoning, Arabs aren't due to arrive in Iraq for another millennium yet. Sumerian civilisation was preserved by semitic language - speaking Akkadians, who adapted their cuneiform writing system. Akkadian uses Sumerian signs to represent syllables of Akkadian words
(and has some Sumerian loan words for things) It was replaced as a spoken language (by Aramaic) earlier, but was still used as a written language until the first century AD.

Dylan Sullivan
Dylan Sullivan

No we are all just economic units that must obtain American middle class life and sing Kumbaya. End of history.

Easton Taylor
Easton Taylor

Marija Gimbutas

I should also add to your post, user that while her Kurgan hypothesis was scientific and founded upon a good amount of evidence, Gimbutas is quite infamous in academia for being biased as a racist of sorts who tried her hardest (and failed repeatedly when put up to standards) to prove Indo-Europeans were the "firsts" of everything

Luke Walker
Luke Walker

I mean that values accomplish nothing. They are nothing but by-products of the material realities of a given society.

Grayson Powell
Grayson Powell

trying to convoy Tolkien in with your ethnat bullshit that he rightly disdained a crass, manipulative bastardization of the culture it claims to represent
again
openculture.com/2014/04/j-r-r-tolkien-snubs-a-german-publisher.html
How many times must this old man teach the same lesson to YOU?

Hudson Kelly
Hudson Kelly

commenting on the unoriginality of an oldfag scholastic meme
using MSpaint as an insult

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Christian Nguyen
Christian Nguyen

Every time I see it I crack up because the literature listed is The Republic versus a sub-par open-world video game with shit dialogue and cut philosophy

Juan Wright
Juan Wright

sometimes the individual must come after the collective; as the collective comes after the individual. The two should be placed on same terms, as both are equally important.

Anthony Jones
Anthony Jones

This is your retard brain on Marxism.

Carson Mitchell
Carson Mitchell

The only argument you need is "what have you done personally?"

Colton Lewis
Colton Lewis

Socialist here but I actually agree

"I mean, look at the retard communist """counter-argument"""".

<YOU DIDN'T BUILT THAT

<WHAT, UR PROUD OF SHIT YOU NEVER DID?

<BLACK HISTORY MONTH RULES!!!!"

every fucking time. the fact that Black Nationalists are allowed here, Zapatistas too, but any pro-European sentiment is not, its clear what the BO wants. it wants nigger cock.
whats wrong with being from Iraq?

Zachary Sanchez
Zachary Sanchez

BO wants. it wants nigger cock
Better let him have it then, nonconsensually

Levi Ward
Levi Ward

Just because you enjoy your own culture more, prioritize it even, doesn't mean you can't respect other cultures as well.

Christian Butler
Christian Butler

Why do communists always have family issues?
Does communism cause family issues, or do family issues cause someone to become a communist?

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Juan Reed
Juan Reed

Why do communists always have family issues?
Isn't your entire political motivation based upon the fact that you can't have a family, because white women will not fuck you?

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Carter Young
Carter Young

Does communism cause family issues
radical ideology can easily cause conflict since it breaks with norms and bounds of acceptability
do family issues cause someone to become a communist?
radical ideologies appeal to the downtrodden, nonconformists, misfits and the troubled, to which familial issues sometimes lead people to
Why do communists always have family issues?
personally I get on well with my immediate family and the grand majority of my relations
instead of communists, it's been the new postmodern nativist radical right having some quite severe familial problems, from internet radicalised failsons killing their fathers, to infidelity and domestic abuse among the 'faces' of the movement like Spencer and Heimbach

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Juan Rivera
Juan Rivera

Weird, because /pol/ seems to get along great with their families, whereas /trannypol/ hates their families so much that they want to abolish the family structure altogether, probably because their boomer parents are too "reactionary" and "bourgeois" or something.

Levi Campbell
Levi Campbell

/pol/ also claims to be 100% white and non-degenerate
but whenever the masks come off and the veil of internet anonymity is taken away, the truth turns out to be something very different - the fools who reveal themselves by actually showing their faces at events or get the reality behind their online personas revealed are then denounced by the TRUE (tm) 100% pure aryan anti-degenerate /pol/ SS übermensch divisions
you'd be wise not to take their claims at face value

Luke Sanders
Luke Sanders

Dunno what you are on about.
I am married and have 8 children.

Wyatt Rivera
Wyatt Rivera

I'm not even sure what the hell your post has to do with how leftists hate their own families.

Ethan Turner
Ethan Turner

nothing. I haven't been on /leftypol/ much for a while now, I don't know much about its present state, beyond the fact that you get banned for all kinds of things
how leftists hate their own families
no doubt some do, as said having issues drives people to radical ideology. but if you want to establish some connection you'll have to do better than just claim it is so.

William Ward
William Ward

That pic is dogshit though. It implies only whites care about muh heritage, which is something anyone of any race can do.

Thomas Cruz
Thomas Cruz

A man is nothing more than a compilation of his ancestors DNA.

Kayden Peterson
Kayden Peterson

I'm not even sure how you could possibly argue against the correlation at this point.
What's more interesting is which one causes the other, or if there's a third, deeper underlying cause which gives rise to both "hating your family" and "being a communist".

Camden Powell
Camden Powell

No serious scholarship considers the symbols to be an actual language
mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/coli_a_00011
"m. So for example, the Vinca symbols of Old Europe were ˇ
certainly not random in their distribution according to the most authoritative source on
the topic (Winn 1981).2 Indeed, Gimbutas (1989) and Haarmann (1996) even proposed
that they represented a pre-Sumerian European script; although that is highly unlikely,
it is also unlikely they would have proposed the idea in the first place if the distribution
of symbols seemed random. "

Brayden Myers
Brayden Myers

I'm not even sure how you could possibly argue against the correlation at this point.
considering people like Bookchin and Marx himself were famously family-oriented, you'll have to try a little bit harder
if you want to circlejerk about how "commies r dum and bad" please go on somewhere else, like reddit for example

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Thomas Edwards
Thomas Edwards

The native name Sumerians gave themselves literally means black headed people for fucks sake
Europeans can't have black hair? Blue eyes was a sign of royalty in Sumer, and the Blue eyes gene originated in Europe.
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/01/140126-blue-eye-spain-fossil-human-discovery-gene/

If you have blue yes you have European ancestry. I wouldn't be surprised if the prevalence of blue eyes in Sumerian royalty and nobility is because the area was civilized by European settlers who possessed metal tools, the first metal tools came from Europe and the Europeans rose to dominance over the natives and ascended to royalty.
doiserbia.nb.rs/img/doi/0350-0241/2014/0350-02411464007R.pdf

Bentley Wood
Bentley Wood

“On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie"
Nice try, commiecuck. Marx himself was famous for wanting to abolish the family unit.

Tyler Gray
Tyler Gray

bourgeois nuclear family = all families everywhere ever

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Daniel Price
Daniel Price

Yes, that's what Marx said, and as we all know, the Great Prophet Karl is never wrong. :^)
I'd tell you to read this, but we all know that communists don't actually read anything while screeching at everyone else to "read Marx".
csustan.edu/sites/default/files/History/Faculty/Weikart/Marx-Engels-and-the-Abolition-of-the-Family.pdf

Aiden Fisher
Aiden Fisher

critique of bourgeois family model and the institution of marriage means marx hated his family
read your own link you fucking mong:
In the midst of all its tribulations, however, Marx's family remained close-knit and affectionate. He entered marriage prior to embracing his views on the abolition of the family, but he saw no reason thereafter to dissolve the bond. Although he probably fathered an illegitimate child, otherwise he was apparently a model husband and remained faithful to his wife. In 1856, after thirteen years of marriage, he wrote her a very effusive love letter that illustrated the depths of his love for her:
<'But the love, not for Feuerbachian man, nor for Moleschott's metabolism, nor for the proletariat, but the love for the sweetheart, and namely for you, makes the man a man again'.
If anyone illustrated the stable romantic dyad that Engels postulated as the typical amorous relationship of the future, it was Marx.
Marx's relationship with his children does not seem at all consistent with a desire to communally raise children. He greatly enjoyed playing and romping with them and was extremely solicitous for their welfare. Part of the reason for his financial problems was his alacrity to spend beyond his income to provide various amenities for his children, including private tutoring in languages, music, and drama. He asked Engels to take over fatherly responsibilities toward his children after he died. Sometimes Marx the father intervened in his daughters' lives in ways that seem to contradict his role as revolutionary abolisher of families and liberator of children. When Paul Lafargue was courting his daughter, Laura, he warned him to keep his distance for a time and demanded that he prove he could financially support a wife.

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Leo Thomas
Leo Thomas

Not only was Marx retarded, but he was also a hypocrite
Color me surprised.

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Gabriel Kelly
Gabriel Kelly

the irony of you posting something about autistic screeching
after being reduced to slime-tier shitposting
after being proven wrong by your own source

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Thomas Price
Thomas Price

I haven't read any of his works, but I like to talk about them

Zachary Thompson
Zachary Thompson

The native name Sumerians gave themselves literally means black headed people for fucks sake
Europeans can't have black hair?

Black headed, not "black haired."

Blue eyes was a sign of royalty in Sumer,

Can you point to any academic literature which says this? .

I wouldn't be surprised if the prevalence of blue eyes in Sumerian royalty and nobility is because the area was civilized by European settlers who possessed metal tools, the first metal tools came from Europe and the Europeans rose to dominance over the natives and ascended to royalty

It was the clay sickle , being cheap to produce in bulk, which along with other innovations such as the seeder plough and long field agriculture,made possible the grain surplus which civilisation in Sumer was based on.

Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

Blue eyes was a sign of royalty in Sumer
No, you are thinking of Egypt, and that was only after the Ptolemies took over.

and the Blue eyes gene originated in Europe.
They originated in neanderthals, which means that somewhere in human history one of my homo sapien sapien ancestors looked at a pale-skinned, blue-eyed, slope-headed, long-armed ape creature and said, "I am going to put my dick in that."

Jace Jenkins
Jace Jenkins

pro european sentiment almost always means pro imperialism and pro nationalism, so take your "muh yurop pride muh white race muh western civilization" bs outta here we have no room for it. you're gonna put "muh nation muh yuropean" over the class struggle and the workers, that's what nationalists do, their nation comes before all and when shit hits the fan you'll sell out the workers to save the skins of your white porkies.

Benjamin Moore
Benjamin Moore

Nationalism is so stupid. If you take pride in George Washington because he was a fellow American, you gotta own up to Jeffery Dahmer too, another American.

Joseph Lopez
Joseph Lopez

always means pro imperialism and pro nationalism, so take your "muh yurop pride muh white race muh western civilization" bs outta here we have no room for it. you're gonna put "muh nation muh
But black nationalism,kill all whitey is ok
We
Thinking you speak for us

No mate,YOU need to get out and take your anti FREAKIN WHITE MALE bullshit out of here you piece of shit. Go jerk off blacks in the bathroom's of your liberal cuckollege. Reminder if revolution comes,Liberal identitarian human trash like you will be the first one to be hang you divisive human appendix.

Ian Sullivan
Ian Sullivan

Nationalism is so stupid. If you take pride in George Washington because he was a fellow American, you gotta own up to Jeffery Dahmer too, another American
not liking Dahmer

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Evan Wilson
Evan Wilson

Nobody voted for Dahmer tho

Camden Thompson
Camden Thompson

because the area was civilized by European settlers

Just to add to my post , it was the production of a grain surplus which allowed for the rise of a specialist priestly class in Sumer. (Priests were in political control at the start of the Bronze Age in Sumer, kings later.)
A grain surplus (and the exploitation of those producing it, if its ok to retro - fit Marx's term like that to pre-capitalist societies) was the motor for the development of civilisation in different parts of the world:

Sumer (barley)
China (rice)
MesoAmerica (maize)

Nolan Wilson
Nolan Wilson

They originated in neanderthals
Nope. It came fro the Cro-Magnons, the earliest modern Europeans

Angel Butler
Angel Butler

Dahmer was self-elected by coup d'etat.

his nigger devouring appetite knew no bounds

he's an honorary Rohmite.

Isaiah Williams
Isaiah Williams

yeah Sorel and Blanqui were better. fuck Marx. Proudhon and Bakunin were too.

Christian Foster
Christian Foster

Dahmer was based gay cannibal nigger remover, you pleb.

Ian Adams
Ian Adams

the area was civilized by European settlers who possessed metal tools, the first metal tools came from Europe and the Europeans rose to dominance over the natives and ascended to royalty.

This is what that incel neo-nazis actually believe

Jace Martin
Jace Martin

Cro-magnon
You are talking about the results of the coupling between human and neanderthal, so yeah blue eyes come from neanderthals.

Isaiah Reyes
Isaiah Reyes

(and the exploitation of those producing it, if its ok to retro - fit Marx's term like that to pre-capitalist societies)
There was no value form in the ancien regime, so it would make more sense to just call it theft in the form of taxation.

Dominic Carter
Dominic Carter

Biological:
Traditions are a name given to modes of behavior that have passed the test of natural selection. People have genetic interests, and traditions are largely in place to ensure the perpetuity of the group's genetics.
Practical:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Moral:
It is good to reciprocate your ancestors for giving you your heritage by honoring their traditions (although one of those traditions is the moral idea of reciprocity itself).
Humble:
People often fail to see the unintended consequences of their actions, and a change to tradition by someone's flawed logic will end up going badly.

Connor King
Connor King

Traditions are a name given to modes of behavior that have passed the test of natural selection.
Tradition is eating and shitting? It is but not for the reasons that you think.

traditions are largely in place to ensure the perpetuity of the group's genetics.
Fanciful bullshit. Fucking perpetuates genetics.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
It is not broken, but what it does is shit.

It is good to reciprocate your ancestors for giving you your heritage by honoring their traditions
What do they care? They're dead.

People often fail to see the unintended consequences of their actions, and a change to tradition by someone's flawed logic will end up going badly.
You can't stop change, and even taking no action is an action.

Jaxson Fisher
Jaxson Fisher

you can't like certain cultural aspects if they're old

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Joseph Smith
Joseph Smith

You can't stop change

Uh yeah, actually you can. Hungary built a huge fence, and thus has less Arab crime than their western neighbors.

Zachary Gonzalez
Zachary Gonzalez

get blown the fuck out by Marx's own words
<"UHHH UHHH READ A BOOK!"
Seriously, who the fuck do you think you're fooling here?

John Price
John Price

None of these posts are worth replying to for your sake, because you're mentally 14 years old, but:
Fucking perpetuates genetics
Surely you kind of have a clue how reductive this is, right? If all genes had to do to perpetuate themselves was to reproduce, evolution basically wouldn't have happened. Peoples with traditions that are inferior can be destroyed.
You can't stop change
Go try to change something people value. You will be stopped.

Julian Reyes
Julian Reyes

nazbol stirnerposting
We are reaching levels of irony that shouldn't even be possible.

Uh yeah, actually you can.
No, you can't. It is the nature of reality to be in constant motion. Change is perpetual, and no wall can change that.

Surely you kind of have a clue how reductive this is, right?
Top kek. /pol/yps are unironically calling people reductionists now. How long will it be before we are "problematic?"

If all genes had to do to perpetuate themselves was to reproduce, evolution basically wouldn't have happened.
Tell us all about how the traditions of single-cell organisms made them into men.

Go try to change something people value. You will be stopped.
Almost as stupid as the previous statement but not quite. The things that people value constantly change. Isn't that what you are most afraid of?

Ethan Watson
Ethan Watson

Go try to change something people value. You will be stopped.
I don't need to do anything.
I'm sorry to break it to you, but change is an immutable fact of life.
会者定離, 生者必滅, 有為転変…

Julian Gomez
Julian Gomez

implying using existing social groups and national borders for your own benefit negates Stirner

implying "change" is always xenophilic, or that immigration of 3rd-worlders can't physically be prevented

Spook'd.

Adam Mitchell
Adam Mitchell

I should probably start intentionally using the word problematic often to retake a good word from the cultural left.
Tell us all about how the traditions of single-cell organisms made them into men.
That is a problematic, reductive, and inglorious question. You should know that memes are metaphysical genes, and that traditions are memes.
The things that people value constantly change
The things that people value that can change generally change slowly and/or as a result impositions upon them by authority (including the mass media in the modern context).
"I don't need to do anything."
If that's really how you feel, stop discussing politics. What would the point even be? It's arrogant to think history will just inevitably progress towards your preferred future no matter what.

Evan Miller
Evan Miller

I'm sorry to break it to you, but change is an immutable fact of life.
Not him, but I agree.
The problem with your logic is assuming that "communism" or some sort of inevitable change, that you are doing your part to enact.
In reality, when humanity reaches a post scarcity technocratic utopia, all communists will be launched into the sun due to their efforts in holding humanity back as long as they have.

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Brayden Cruz
Brayden Cruz

change is immutable

Yeah, like how nationalist parties have become more popular in Europe; leaders rising like Salvini, Orban, Akesson, etc.

Your form of argumentation is basically "change is always cosmopolitan and xenophile because old stuff bad".

Also, there's no law of physics saying people can't like things if they're "old".

Chase Bell
Chase Bell

Stop extrapolating. We're talking about traditions.

Leo Wilson
Leo Wilson

I should probably start intentionally using the word problematic often to retake a good word from the cultural left.
You are welcome to it. "Reductionist" too. While you are at it, why don't you take "shitlord?"

You should know that memes are metaphysical genes, and that traditions are memes.
Not sure if serious.

The things that people value that can change generally change slowly and/or as a result impositions upon them by authority (including the mass media in the modern context).
Yes, that is indeed constant change.

If that's really how you feel, stop discussing politics. What would the point even be?
Careful. You will summon the leftcoms.

It's arrogant to think history will just inevitably progress towards your preferred future no matter what.
Capitalism can only destroy itself as its inherent contradictions become fatal. When it does, the system that replaces it can only be one that is capable of perpetuating itself in an environment where outward expansion is no longer possible and productivity is sufficient to meet the needs of the human population. The only group of people who are capable of accomplishing that is the group of people who produce everything, but in so doing it must destroy what defines it: its lack of control over its own production. What the new economic reality will be like is unpredictable beyond the limitations that can be determined by the nature of the collapse of the current system. Material realities will shape it just as they do now.

In reality, when humanity reaches a post scarcity technocratic utopia, all communists will be launched into the sun due to their efforts in holding humanity back as long as they have.
What is really funny is that this is correct for reasons that you do not understand. After the revolution, the revolutionaries have to go.

Yeah, like how nationalist parties have become more popular in Europe; leaders rising like Salvini, Orban, Akesson, etc.
have become
Change.

Your form of argumentation is basically "change is always cosmopolitan and xenophile because old stuff bad".
No, it's not. You just suck at reading.

Also, there's no law of physics saying people can't like things if they're "old".
No, but the current reality will either bury the old or twist it into something that better reflects it.

Owen Diaz
Owen Diaz

. Source? Blue eyes originated in Europe. Asians and Native Americans have more neanderthal DNA so if blue eyes was a neanderthal trait it would be more common in Asians and native Americans. Semites have the most and pure Semites exclusively have brown eyes. Cro-magnons never mated with pure Neanderthals. They murdered them wherever they found them. They would go into their caves with domesticated wolves and kill them. The small amount of neanderthal DNA in Europeans comes from interbreeding with Asiatic homo sapiens who had some neanderthal admixture. This is why Semites, like Arabs hate dogs, and people with blue eyes so much. Genetic memory/epigenetic tramua from being hunted by. The image of tall, blue eyed men coming into their caves with wolves and killing them is burned into their DNA.
blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/07/17/more-evidence-that-our-cro-magnon-ancestors-shunned-neanderthals/

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Adrian Roberts
Adrian Roberts

Go back to /pol/, I've seen you in a fuck ton of Neandertal threads before posting the same bullshit.
I'm an anarcho-primitivist so I know my anthropology, and the consensus is clear—Europeans have the largest ammount of Neandertal DNA, resulting in blue eyes, white skin, blonde/red hair, and allergies being very prominent. Semites do have SOME Neandertal DNA, but not to the extent of modern europeans.

Nicholas Bell
Nicholas Bell

Arabs hate dogs, and people with blue eyes so much.
Nigga what?

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Adam Thompson
Adam Thompson

Plus, you're literally posting /x/ tier theories about Neandertals. That they were nocturnal is simply absurd—an evolutionary path like this would take millions of years to develop. That they were cannibalistic is known, but so were Cro-Magnons.
Genetic memory/epigenetic tramua from being hunted by.
When you breed with Cro-Magnons and are brought up by them there's no way Transgenerational trauma takes place.

Tyler Kelly
Tyler Kelly

Source? Blue eyes originated in Europe. Asians and Native Americans have more neanderthal DNA so if blue eyes was a neanderthal trait it would be more common in Asians and native Americans.
There were different groups of neanderthals. Also, what supposedly happened with the blue-eyed Aryans coming from the Indian Subcontinent?

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4933530/?report=classic

Semites
Not a human phenotype. Put away the debunked pseudoscience.

This is why Semites, like Arabs hate dogs, and people with blue eyes so much. Genetic memory/epigenetic tramua from being hunted by. The image of tall, blue eyed men coming into their caves with wolves and killing them is burned into their DNA.
You should probably stop playing Assassin's Creed or at least stop treating it like a real thing.

Aiden Jackson
Aiden Jackson

Source? Most genetics studies say Europeans have the least out of all non Africans. It's obvious when you look at our phenotype.
Small noses
Taller and leaner
Lack of sloped forehead.
Better hand eye coordination (Neanderthals couldn't throw spears, they had to use thrusting spears to hunt.)
Less body hair
And as I said before, Cro Magnons did not mate with pure neanderthals, we just killed
them.
blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/07/17/more-evidence-that-our-cro-magnon-ancestors-shunned-neanderthals/

genetics.org/content/early/2013/02/04/genetics.112.148213.short

Wyatt Anderson
Wyatt Anderson

what supposedly happened with the blue-eyed Aryans coming from the Indian Subcontinent?
It was the other way around. Bronze age Europeans migrated into India and conquered the Dravidians

Jack Perez
Jack Perez

The Levant is close to Europe so there's been plenty gene flow

Michael Campbell
Michael Campbell

And as I said before, Cro Magnons did not mate with pure neanderthals, we just killed them.
They did indeed mate with them and for tens of thousands of years. Seriously, how do you imagine that hybrids came into being without there being mixing in the first place?

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4933530/?report=classic

Most genetics studies say Europeans have the least out of all non Africans.
Bullshit. Nice blog source, though.

Zachary Cook
Zachary Cook

When you breed with Cro-Magnons
blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/07/17/more-evidence-that-our-cro-magnon-ancestors-shunned-neanderthals/

The uncanny valley is a defense mechanism that stops us from mating with different species of hominid. Cro magnons would just kill neanderthals on sight

Cooper Walker
Cooper Walker

Indeed, that's true, they're the second after East Asians. They still have a fuckton of Neandertal admixture.
Better hand eye coordination (Neanderthals couldn't throw spears, they had to use thrusting spears to hunt.)
Source? They hunted either close-range with spears or threw from a medium distance.
And as I said before, Cro Magnons did not mate with pure neanderthals, we just killed them.
B.S. They were killed off either by the pathogens homo sapiens brought from Africa or climate change. Violence was just a very small factor—homo sapiens just did a beta uprising on the alpha built Neandertals who were taking all the sapiens chicks.

Ok kid, now here's the question I need you to answer—if Europeans are almost pure homo sapiens, why don't they posses nigger traits like pure homo sapiens from Africa? Protip: adaptation is not the answer, as we didn't have a lot of time for that to take place (like fucking 20k years). Protip 2: Africans have very little archaic admixture, you are disallowed from saying "muh erectus"

Brody White
Brody White

the ancestors of Neanderthals from the Altai Mountains and of modern humans met and interbred, possibly in the Near East, many thousands of years earlier than previously reported.
Your own source provesme right. Neanderthal-human mating happened in the middle East, not Europe. The presence of scant neanderthal DNA in Europeans comes from Asians who had neanderthal admixture moving into Europe.

Caleb Johnson
Caleb Johnson

Is this World Ice Theory or something? Where does Atlantis fit in?

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Colton Perez
Colton Perez

Africans have very little archaic admixture, you are disallowed from saying "muh erectus"
youtu.be/MwJUejcqqzA

pnas.org/content/108/37/15123

Hunter Allen
Hunter Allen

Keep reading, particularly the part about the other group on neanderthals in Europe.

David Butler
David Butler

That article says that African populations bred with semi-modern archaic humans at the time. It literally proves nothing.

Austin Williams
Austin Williams

Anyway, I'd like to hear proof for this "nocturnal Neandertal" theory other than a YouTube video.

Jason Rodriguez
Jason Rodriguez


It means that they aren't pure homo sapien.

Brandon Clark
Brandon Clark

And that's exactly what I said, nigger. Anyway, is waiting for your answer.

Nicholas Adams
Nicholas Adams

No theyre homo sexuals

Kayden Young
Kayden Young

Muh Incels

Every. Single. Time.

Not. An. Argument.

Cooper Cooper
Cooper Cooper

Their large eyes
bbc.com/earth/story/20150805-neanderthals-strange-large-eyes

Brody Walker
Brody Walker

That doesn't prove a thing. Mice are nocturnal yet have very small eyes.

Andrew Powell
Andrew Powell

Additionaly, the article itself says exactly why they have large eyes.

Chase Gonzalez
Chase Gonzalez

where are you at /pol/ always jokes on themselves about being the most diverse group of white supremest

Ryan Allen
Ryan Allen

implying most people who call themselves communist have read anything by marx or even know who bookchin is and aren’t just rebellelling against the status quo

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Hunter Garcia
Hunter Garcia

Not everyone is like you.

Kevin Johnson
Kevin Johnson

where are you at /pol/ always jokes on themselves about being the most diverse group of white supremest
This.
I can't even tell how many levels of irony we're on now.
Why do leftists always hate their parents?
<OH YEAH, WELL /POL/ ISN'T WHITE, TAKE THAT, YOU RACISTS!
<THE FACT THAT /POL/ ISN'T WHITE IS AN INSULT!
<BE INSULTED ABOUT NOT BEING WHITE!

Dominic Sanders
Dominic Sanders

I can't even tell how many levels of irony we're on now.
Neither can I. What is with /pol/'s complete lack of any ideological consistency? Is it just a thing that you think that you do not need?

Carter Sanchez
Carter Sanchez

ideological consistency is a spook

Hudson Garcia
Hudson Garcia

take your meds

Charles Diaz
Charles Diaz

/pol/ is a board of love and tolerance. All are welcome, so long as they put bullets in the heads of commies.

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Daniel Wood
Daniel Wood

Do you actually have anything to say here, or what? What's the point to you posting here? It has nothing to do with the topic in the OP, that's for damn sure.

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Evan Powell
Evan Powell

Neither philosopher is shit compared to Blanqui or Sorel.

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Hunter Diaz
Hunter Diaz

I dunno but this place is the most diverse group of faggots I've ever seen.

Landon Young
Landon Young

Do you actually have anything to say here, or what? What's the point to you posting here? It has nothing to do with the topic in the OP, that's for damn sure.
Says the guy who randomly sperged out about how "/pol/ isn't white, take that!"

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Hunter Lee
Hunter Lee

/pol/yp cannot into reading comprehension
quelle surprise

David Moore
David Moore

Because mice primarily use smell to get around. Hominids use sight.

Parker Collins
Parker Collins

The site or just this board?

sperged out about /pol/'s diversity
That wasn't me. Also I kinda wish this thread was on topic, I'd like to actually hear both sides of it.

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