congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1865 The bill changes section 230 of the CDA, the law that protects website owners from liability for what their users post, to carve out an exception for instances of human trafficking. Site owners can be held liable and subject to a criminal fine or imprisonment for not more than 20 years.
WHAT THIS MEANS IN PRACTICE IS THAT ALL IT WOULD TAKE FOR A WEBSITE TO BE SHUT DOWN AND ITS OWNER ARRESTED IS A FALSE FLAG OPERATION OF SPOOKS ENGAGING IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING. ALL U.S. SITES WOULD BECOME FORCED TO IMPOSE EXTREMELY HEAVY-HANDED MODERATION AND CENSORSHIP OR SHUT DOWN ENTIRELY, Zig Forums INCLUDED.
THIS BILL HAS STRONG BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND WILL LIKELY PASS UNLESS HEAVY RESISTANCE CAN BE ORGANIZED QUICKLY AND ON A LARGE SCALE.
Voting on the House Floor is scheduled for THIS TUESDAY. Start spreading this information on as many websites as you can before it's too late. If you know anyone with a large audience try and get them to spread the word. ==If this bill becomes law then it's GAME OVER for free speech on the internet.==
Works both ways. Or have they forgotten the retribution they got from the advertising crap they pulled with gamergate? Either way, unconstitutional. Corporations are people thanks to their kikery so guess what? No censorship for you. The government can't demand it or pass a law demanding it. Kind of one of the reasons they can't get rid of that NAMBLA crap. Now it's coming back to bite the kikes in the ass. PRECEDENT, MOSHE, IS A BITCH. OY FUCKIN VEY
Easton Lewis
what this guy says
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Jordan Diaz
No. Ending the thread is intellectually lazy. There is plenty of time to read all the threads here. tons of time.
This guy is right.
So why am i still here? Because this is law is a kike move, and when we take our time to dissect the kike moves, we see a clear kike, gassable pattern. The kikes are terrified of unrestricted global communication. They are terrified that the Goyim are knowing too much. They are terrified that they are losing the entertainment industry to anti kike gooks. They are terrified that the sand niggers WILL kill the kikes in Europe.
I look forward to the day when we can gas the kikes. The old kikes, the young kikes, the hook nosed kikes, all the kikes need to be gassed. They post child porn on our fourms, and they think that the normies here will be scared off? Have they not realized that it was the CP that they post that is the biggest redpill? I never see nazis post CP on antifa sites, but i see kikes post CP on nazi sites. The almonds would not shut off once they were activated.
Now is the time to act. They can't juggle it all, they are scared, and they do not have the resources to counter our memes. Every meme campaign we do will be more effective now than ever. They over extended themselves, and as such it is now time to act.
Bentley Richardson
They aren't going to use this law against their own propaganda tools. Overly broad laws like this are only ever applied selectively to either shut down those who are a threat to the system or periodically to justify their existence. Don't be deluded into thinking this would ever be used against the likes of Faceberg or Google. Especially since the gave the Senate version of this law their approval.
You make it and enforce it first, then it gets to work its way through the courts. It's doubtful anyone except actual child porn sites has standing at passing. This could do a lot of damage before it's overturned, and there is an exception to the 1st Amendment for the prohibition of obscene speech. NAMBLA doesn't count because they don't sit around and swap child porn officially. Officially they're just a political organization dedicated to lowering age of consent laws. They can, and have, been busted individually when members swap CP. Obviously this case is close to the line. The chans aren't dedicated to sharing child porn. But it's a closer legal call than you make it seem. Phelps got away with what he did because the Court construed his speech and organization in general as political, and therefore highly protected. Pure obscenity is still on the books as an exception, and it hasn't been tried in awhile. The precedent is not so strong. Arguably this law is still too vague and over-broad to be enforceable. But, again, it's arguable. They wouldn't have tried so hard with all of those harsh anti-copyright theft laws if they thought they didn't stand a chance against the 1st Amendment. And this is essentially very similar territory.
This could just be a PR move, to force Trump to veto it and to refuse to protect "trafficking victims" and make his "base" look even more child-hating than the current full-court media press wrt Parkland is.
Caleb Mitchell
why are you CIAniggers saging this thread?
Isaac Butler
This is a kike disinfo thread. Same shit was posted to /v/ and is being heavily bumped. Abnormal activity for this time.
Bentley Scott
Whoops, meant to sage.
Brayden Collins
Meh. After the tech community completely sold out their principles when the Fag Anglin's Thai Fuck Shack got taken down while defending internet freedoms against the feds pedo claims I really could give a shitless. On both sides of the fence they deserve to feel the almighty dick of the federal government at this point for their apathy.
Robert Hill
why sage the thread though? its a valid topic, let people discuss it
Hunter Hughes
He's misunderstanding how precedent is applied and that standing exists.
I was going to feed him a (You) and I realized I shouldn't. But for the record:
Nathaniel Carter
You know how I know that you're not from around here?
it's /thread you fucking retard.
Jaxson Baker
I also think this may have potential to undermine this place.
Alexander Rivera
Because this is being heavily pushed on like 5 different boards. It's obvious there's an organized effort to get people to see this which is extremely odd for this time. It just screams unnatural.
Camden Perez
Someone posted in the GamerGate thread, and a couple Anons spread it across the site.
Colton Williams
Take your meds, your paranoia is going up again.
Brayden Butler
So 8gag would stay the same.
Eli Campbell
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR GLORIOUS ADMINNU?! DING DONG BANNU! ————————— END OF RINE RINE ENDS HERE
No shit Sherlock. In reality, it'll probably be used against file sharing sites like Mega first. I think this is really just a better thought out backdoor SOPA/PIPA/etc. The ultimate target is the same, but this way you can make your opponents look like horrible people and maybe shut down them down entirely.
Also, this came out of the Energy and Communications Committee, which is the most cancerous there is in the whole House.
Somebody might want to pin opposition to this on us/Republicans/Trump. It's still a horrible law. If there's some way we can drum up opposition to this by pretending to be Democrats or getting leftypol in on it, that might be worth doing to limit the damage. Make the opposition seem bipartisan.
Ryder Nguyen
Ah, sorry Meant to respond to
Jose Evans
This bill passed in the Hillary timeline and the world is a better place because of it.
Fellow Zig Forums users I have some sex slaves to sell for cheap. 5% of the value goes to Zig Forums as usual for aiding our international sex trafficking operations.
thanks dad, but we pretty much figured that, now how to kill this stupid bill. We already know the cucks will try to pass it, so there needs to be some other organized effort, or second line of defense in case they do and magically doesn't get vetoed. start spreading it is my first thought, typical calls to congress but more normies need to get pissed at it I think for congress to back off.
Easton Johnson
STICKY THIS MODS, FINALLY SOMETHING WORTH STICKYING
Ian Richardson
We have basically no alternatives for free unfiltered discussion mediums, everything else is cucked, censored and moderated to hell. Fuck these kikes
Anthony Kelly
Obama, Bush, Clinton didn't pass a bill like that before. That just mean they were OK with CP.
Jeremiah Scott
revert back to drifting IRCs if we have to
Anthony Moore
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Tyler Fisher
world is a better place because of it INDEED
Levi Parker
Of fucking course it will. Just be bipartisan in your efforts, and wear the mask of internet freedom / rights activists rather than kek, user, etc.
Amazingly, this law is broad enough that it could probably apply to email services. Even though Google obviously isn't a target, making the argument that they could be at risk frequently and publicly might force them to weigh in. Either they say, yeah we moderate/censor our email services for child trafficking, or they have to admit that the law is potentially bad for them too.
Also, the supporters are going to paint Backpage et. al. as the official target. That will score them huge points with conservative married women, fyi. We might need a tailored outreach strategy for moms.
=One More Thing From a Legal Standpoint=
A lot of Congress people / whoever is pushing this is going to try to hide behind the recklessness standard. The idea they will propagate is that ordinary site moderation in places of discussion will be adequate protection. Again, the first target is probably file sharing because that isn't censored/moderated at all. However, we're talking about child porn/abuse/trafficking here.
Carter Morgan
For Zig Forums not to be doomed if this passes, my guess is users would have to start donating money to fund the websites ability to moderate and censor any human trafficking related shit, most of which would probably be false flags. The major problem with this is a lot of us are poorfags, some others have the extra money but might be too stingy to donate when they could use that money for other shit.
Noah Miller
There's countless dead boards. Just one archive of the falseflag in them would be enough. Jim should add a feature to delete dead ownerless boards after a certain amount of time of existing while screening for the newer boards.
Carter Rodriguez
In the event of a concerted attack, it wouldn't be enough. The mere fact that ownerless boards could exist is probably sufficient to meet the recklessness standard. This law basically requires internet-wide surveillance and moderation.
Is fucking everything. Hell, your normie messenger app on your normie phone probably qualifies.
Josiah Brooks
That's a good idea. although sucks that all this new regulation would have be put up in the first place. Mostly unrestricted freedom is the major selling-point of Zig Forums..
Jaxon Wood
If Zig Forums goes we go into a bunker. There's several, and some will be pretty hard to ban.
Hey Jim, how's it going?
Parker Richardson
I don't see enough backlash against this on twitter, you fags better get to work.
Logan Thomas
user, this is the final straw. They're finally killing off all opposition. It's probably going to take more than shitposting to stop it. A lot more.
There's little time left. I don't think there's enough time to do something drastic.
Lincoln Jenkins
Mass-suicides soon.
Andrew Walker
as of now just spam the fuck out of this info literall everywhere
Adam Rivera
Spam Trump's twitter feed while you're at it.
Levi Nelson
that counts as everywhere another idea is have the internet start doing what we usually do, ddonging some sites to get their attention. Start thinking of creative ways to get them scared or normies to notice.
Make internet rights arguments about it in the normiesphere. Try to rope in lefty Congress people.
Don't. Given the atmosphere around Trump and children at the moment, I think this is a bad idea. Unless you're doing it from a fake lefty account. There seems to be a bit of a game afoot.
That "dead website" thing really caught on. But we'd need more mainstream normie websites on board. Barrage companies that host email services and ask them if they think their moderation of millions of accounts is adequate to avoid fines whenever someone is caught sharing CP over email. That might get the attention of Google, Apple, Yahoo, etc.
I'd drum up a form email, but it's late and I'm barely keeping pace with this as it is.
Kayden Barnes
Did anyone else notice how Trump completely cucked out after his son's wife got the threat and that car that rammed into the white house or something?
yes, I have noticed, something isn't right with him, cant even explain it with chess.
they will always follow us unfortunately, to the ends of the earth they will always send some stupid nigger to ruin the good.
not if you do it by force :^)
Noah Martin
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Angel Kelly
In what regard?
Nolan Hernandez
Didn't some dumb bitch do that already? Ram into the white house gates like a year or so with her car?
Charles Gutierrez
Gun control, Syria, DACA, the wall, the muslim ban. It seems like the Trump admin just can't get any of their promises off the ground, and now they're forced to push for dem policies that everyone hoped to avoid by voting for Trump.
Thomas Brooks
haha its just chess my fellow pede, shills will never understand!
Joshua Peterson
Nothing has happened Nothing has happened. Pulling out over night was never going to happen. March 5 is less than two weeks away and no bill has come forth. DACA is done. Being built. You miss the sticky? Its was never a Muslim ban tho.
Dominic Diaz
Governor of florida raising purchase age to 21 is nothing now
Except 50 tomohawk missiles. That's nothing to boomer trumpcucks though It's getting voted on March 5th, dumb kike
Benjamin Morales
8ch server need to move out of USA.
Luis Taylor
Make a entry on this on kno ur maymay. That'll publicize it to every tard on the net.
Bentley Sullivan
Except legislation was enacted for stricter measures on weapons. Background checks are mandatory and some accessories were banned as well as the legal buying age was increased by 3 years. I would hardly call this "nothing"
Except it was. Trump literally said "muslim ban" during his presidental campaign, and now he got cockblocked by a bunch of corrupt judges, what, thrice now?
There are still US troops on syrian soil who have set up military bases and aren't planning on pulling out any time soon. That doesn't seem like peace to me, rather the gov just decided to get involved there under the table or hire mercs to do their dirty business there.
Remains to be seen, but ok.
Not nearly as quickly as would be optimal. ICE is also not really deporting spics at optimal rates either.
Ayden Gonzalez
T H I S
Joseph Hughes
Maybe we all just need to move out of the USA.
Aaron Rivera
I am not in USA. Is there a chan bunker for us to relocate in case?
Jackson Smith
I already mentioned IRCs are probably safe, chan wise I am not sure. If they hit this place there are a myriad of umonitored IRC networks.
Elijah Russell
ABOUT THAT BLUE WAVE
Connor Turner
We better need 24/7 mod to keep the cps out.
Kevin Richardson
Anyone else get banned for from 4chins for no apparent reason?
Last thing I remember doing yesterday that could have pissed anyone off was post pics related to overrepresentation of the (((privileged))) class in the /ptg/.
Some people reported that they were banned in Florida. My guess, someone's using certain ISP's to flood halfblood with spam of some kind. There's no way to know what kind, of course, because they have zero transparency.
Josiah Barnes
BG checks were always mandatory less it was a private wall. As for a 21 purchase age that's only been proposed in Florida and hasn't been enacted. Bump stocks are a novelty item. And? That was to be expected and its won every time and will continue to win. Withdrawing overnight was never a realistic expectation. Trump has made it known he will not be ousting Assad. Matt is has made it known that Assad was never behind the gas attacks. The dems have been to busy running errand over the memo shit to get anything done and now we're playing rigamaroo over this school hoax. DACA is done lel walls are built in a day and ice didn't just round up 400 illegals in one go.
Youre full of shit faggot.
Ayden Walker
Do this in a different fucking thread.
Landon Howard
Except it didn't. The judge basically said nuh-uh can't do that, and Trump just ate it and shut up.
It very much is. After ISIS got shredded by the Russians they simply moved on to plab B which is dividing Syria into multiple states. The groundwork is already being laid with the 30 day ceasefire. The kurd regions are going to be just like Donbass is right now in Ukraine, a quasi-independent, unrecognized state run by a local mafia clan.
The only thing that's being built is a tiny section of a wall spanning 2km and only into that 2km range was it authorized. While they aren't built in a day, the wall is simply not being built, period. Call me when Trump authorized the wall along the entirety of the southern border.
Trump agreed with gun control measures and that is what is important. No matter how small, he set a precedent that he is willing to enact gun control and budge to dem pressure. He cucked out and there is no excuse for it, period.
Blake Gomez
and filtered
Cameron Cox
When have you once seen google, Facebook, or twitter be held accountable for fucking anything?
It affect all of the websites. All they can shut them down is to post the cps on their servers and they goes to the jail so that mean they need 24/7 modding.
Gavin Carter
I can’t wait for Trump to personally kill every leftist off the internet once this bill passes
Hunter Sanders
They manage it from the Philippines, everything else is hosted in Commiefornia.
Hunter Martin
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Lucas Taylor
Even better, Trump will only focus on the extermination of /trannypol/
This is (((them))) fighting back the only way they know how. Go D&C the limp-wristed Zig Forums if you aren't an actual shill and want to help. You aren't helping by constantly henpecking at Trump and ecelebs that are doing far, far less damage than MSM, globalist kike backers or (((D))) politicians and cuckservatives.
