I'm a bit late to this but…
These are his responses to anarchists from his most recent interview with Joe Rogan. How do you respond?
Jordan Peterson Hierarchy Thread
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Not necessarily. Nature is never a good argument unless you can back it.
He can't be this retarded.
Tyranny is a buzzword.
Liberal thought process. This absolutely doesn't prevent failed hierarchy.
What in the fuck does this part even mean.
Depends but it's definitely possible.
Literally not at all supported by empirical evidence.
By the way I'm not an anarchist I just hate liberals and Peterson makes people who do actually justify hierarchies look bad.
Anyways I'm going to bed.
Spooky.
Completely ignores competing interests, even if we are to make the assumption that hierarchies are mostly meritocratic.
Then hierarchy inevitably fails.
Pure idealism.
If a plumber is an employee, that's a hierarchy.
Peterson has either never had a manager or he is a bootlicking fag. Probably both.
As you go up there is more power to be wielded, but often times the personal consequences diminish greatly. Just look at the golden parachutes given to CEOs who run companies into the ground or how Trump's lawyer that just got convicted is getting 3 years in prison and has until march until he turns himself in. Those of us from lower positions in the hierarchical system would get fired and sued for far less than the CEOs and any nigga here who gets charged is going straight to prison without 4 months notice to hide his shit.
Kermit the Fraud is a bootlicking fag and his followers are cucks that would cheer on porky as he pounds their poopers. Given his repeating of liberal ideology backed up by appeals to "nature" to justify class collaboration, his denial of class conflict, his assertion that "tyranny" is the result of failure rather than a function of hierarchy, and his claim that "free speech" is solely able to prevent "failed" hierarchy, I have to say that Peterson has made some of the dumbest criticisms of anarchism I have seen in my 4 years of posting on a board frequented by illiterate reprobates whose political knowledge comes almost solely from memes and recycled propaganda. That's quite an achievement even by the standards of liberal intellectuals, and fitting for a youtube professor who knows absolutely nothing about Marxism or post-modernism.
plumbers have hierarchies…
At bloody last; a serious attempt to present an alternative to Peterson's views instead of shrieking "hurrr, he said lobster" like a bunch of masturbating chimps with strychnine poisoning.
Hierarchies ARE natural. Caring for children and teachers educating students are example situations were one individual must assume dominance over another. Claiming that this in any way supports a planetary scale system of population control where most of the participants are allowed only the minimum allotment of free time and resources to maintain that system is a massive overreach.
Peterson is also correct that free speech is the only way to prevent a failed hierarchy. Anarchists: are not the hierarchies Peterson defends failures by definition, as all hierarchies are tyrannical? Is not the use of free speech to spread anarchist ideology the best methods of removing and preventing these failures?
What he's describing is obviously idealistic, but more importantly it's banal as fuck. In fact the whole reason this idiot seems to have a fanbase at all is because he gave a bunch of dad advice well adjusted people received from parents, and also shit on SJWs. None of his fans care about his other bullshit where he exposes himself as a willfully ignorant moron with questionable mental health.
The fact he's regarded as a profound intellectual by young men is proof that kids are stupid and our post-modern era really is degenerate.
A bad, failed, hierarchy is an unjustifiable hierarchy.
Plumbers have hierarchies. The expert and the novice.
Managers are middlemen ass-kissers for the owner class and if they make enough money they're incentivized to become just as sociopathic as they climb that ladder.
As you go up the ladder there is a decrease in responsibility.
What a dip
Neither of you brainlets actually disproved a single thing he said.
Welcome to leftpol enjoy your stay
No, hierarchies aren't natural in humans, as hunter-gatherer groups often lacked a social hierarchy, rather maintaining horizontal social structures that only ever became hierarchic when agricultural societies began to form and wealth began to accumulate, which imo kinda short-circuited humans as one didn't have to labour for wealth anymore. Marx noted per-agricultural societies as primitive communism, and likely developed the notion of communism through Hegel's triadic process, looking at society in-itself (the idea in a vacuum isolated to be better understood, in this case civilization), out-of-itself (the Outside of an idea, often giving a context with which the idea exists in relation to, in this case Primitive Communism), and in-and-for-itself; Communism, that is to say, present civilization synthesized with it's primitive traits towards a civilization that facilitates ideas from both. Modern hierarchy is illegitimate in that the capitalist doesn't need to labor for their wealth, and Peterson is a faggot for falling for the just-world hypothesis which makes him no better than any other liberal.