1950s Americana

Is anyone sick of the veneration of 1950s America among people on the right?

The 1950s weren't some ideal time. They got Americans too used to creature comforts because of a false economy built on the ruins of other manufacturing powers, they were the triumph of the nuclear family over the extended family/clan, they were the preamble to the degeneracy of the 1960s - the 1950s were when entertainment started talking about dysfunctional behavior, encouraging mixing between unmarried men and women, pre-marital sex. It's here where the first real modern pop music starts to emerge, which is deeply sexually provocative in a subtle way, and so on.

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1950s were peak degeneracy in the USA.

I understand the nostalgia though - people look back and see a prosperous white society and they long for that.

I never though of it this way. I mean, I know that the US benefited from not being bombed for the most part, but "false economy" is an interesting way to describe it. Even during WW1, the British were relying heavily on American industry which was vital to its development, and this makes me wonder what America would've become had there not been two world wars.

That's not to imply the US would have been a basket case if there hadn't been a second world war, but the 1950s allowed the US to create a gigantic export-led period of growth because nobody else had serious capital equipment.

The great depression in the US only ended because of WW2. The US's wealth is mainly derived from debt and cheap post-war labor in Asia.

The only actual wealth creation in the US comes from industry and farming, and those fields account for like 5% of all employment.

There is nothing false in having industry when other don't have it. In the 1950s 50-80% of all industrial shit was made in the USA (90% for the advanced industrial base: aluminum, polymers, chemical precursors, transistors and such).


In the Japans 80s situation. But everything multiplied and big. Industrial powerhouse others can't compete with and locking their markets from (if no world worlds colonial system and protectionism stays, no free trade) with no military power to unlock them, just economic power. America would have less but it should be pointed out that US passed any EU country in the industrial capacity in the 1905, before world wars.

It's not because the 50's were ideal, it's because it was the last relatively unspoiled decade before the total collapse of society in the 1960's.

Well yeah, but when they have no industry of their own to satisfy domestic consumption, you have a captive market that will only be a captive market for as long as they don't develop their own stuff with capital investment and formation (takes time), so it's not a long-term thing. It was going to disappear eventually.

America now does not make HQ aluminum. The best bicycles for example are all made in Taiwan, they source their aluminum and other materials like carbon fibers from Japan.

You into MTB? Making Bicycles in Taiwan isn't easy though due to poor QA of their own work. Like everything, the frames are fabricated over there due to cost. All high-end bike companies still design and tests prototypes and well as construct and test the bikes components as they do it stateside.

The US economy is built on consumption of goods of which, 90% of the time, 95% of the value-add occurs outside of the US, and 80% of the spending power comes from consumer credit.

When people say "yeah but such and such electronics will go up in price and people won't be able to afford them as much!" as a response to protectionist arguments, reply with "GOOD! They aren't even able to afford them now!"

Forget about design, what is important is the materials and producer's goods that go into making them because that's the side of things that even today creates a shitload of jobs. Sure, Intel does most of their design work stateside, but that's a tiny portion of high IQ elite people doing that work. Not enough to sustain a country's adult-aged male population even in the slightest with job creation.

Are you a software dev? I find software devs are usually elitist and out of touch with ordinary people, their jobs are simply not doable by the vast majority of people.

Every American decade after 1790 is 100% degenerate

America was liberal from its inception. It was founded on liberalism, revolt against one's rightful monarch in this case. America is liberalism's patient 0.

1950s was the decade that gave birth to the original American degenerates - Hippies.

Another thread to whine about old white people. Getting real tired of your shit Shlomo.

The monarchy was degenerate to the bone, and the commoners of England were repulsive filth. America was founded by men and women who rejected the corruption and tried to follow the anti-jew teachings of Jesus, not the disgusting heresies of the jewish golems who called themselves monarchs, bishops, and popes. But by 1791, the jews managed to get the First Bank of the United States chartered, making it no better than filthy Europe and their syphilitic, inbred, hooknose royalty.

The obsession with central banking as a boogeyman is just more Alex Jones tier irrelevant.

Central Banks are a tool. They can be good or bad depending on what they do. If they constantly create more money to facilitate more consumption and consumer credit, then yeah, they're shit. But there are instances of central banks playing a key role in building legit industry and manufacturing. The BoJ and MoF in Japan in the 1950s through to early 1980s is a good example. Window guidance and all that.

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To be honest you are buying a kikey hollywood story about the 50s, the California 50s. Rural America remained largely the same and in many ways remains largely the same.

As for manufacturing, the US was already the largest manufacturing power prior to WW1, the world wars just made it have 50% of the world's GDP rather than 20%.


Even today the US have 2.7 times the total industrial output of China. Hell Germany right now has more industrial output than China in real terms. The Chinks cook there books to a ridiculous degree by double counting imports and exports. The real issue is the US exporting components like integrated circuits and plastic pellets which are sent to China because the Chinks can't be trusted to make their own without adding lead to them to make them solidify quicker and then building the computer out of components before exporting the finished product.

Tariffs would solve that easily and they would destroy this global economy which benefits urbanites and kikes. There is no downside to any western nation.


Early US was essentially libertarianism as run by fascists, before either of those things were really conceptualized.

Hell half the founding fathers wanted to racially purge the Americas of every Redskin and exterminate everybody south of the Rio Grande for race mixing.

The country really didn't have a founding ethos but was created by warrior classes(like Cavaliers) and various mercenaries who got left out in the cold after the wars in Europe died down(mostly Germans). These bitter expats formed their own states and communities within them and just gave few shits unless bothered. Their insular nature both makes them nearly immune to the poison of modernity but also very difficult to motivate in opposition to it as they suffer few of its detrimental effects. Today rural white Americans are the only significant population in any developed nation which breed above replacement rate consistently. Even spics and saracens drop below replacement rate after the first generation, hence the need of the kikes and libshits to import more constantly.

A toast to this bread

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How is this figure obtained?

Look at the sheer volume of steel production in China vs. the US and tell me real industrial output is larger in the US.

They're idealized by the reactionary element of the right (and that extends way beyond neocons) who just want things to be muh nice again. The 50s was like you said built off the death of europe, and more importantly the rampant consumerism and corporatism it created resulted in the spawn of the 60s and beyond. America had this degenerate nigger culture going all the way back to the 1920s, people who want the 50s dont understand this and just want to go back when the economy was good.

Not to take either side of this argument but here

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This was the most recent when time European civilization was 'whole.' WWI opened Pandora's box. WWII and the Axis defeat finished the job. 1950's American glory was a short afterglow after an orgy of violence for the Semites against the Aryans. If you really want to go back to when Europeans were truly uncucked, you have to go back before Constantine adopted Christcuckery as the official religion of the Roman Empire.

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You've been fed lies, usually it was outright criminals and people with huge debts that wanted to escape them that went to America.

Sage goes in all fields for you, dirty commie.

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Capitalism is inherently prone to jewish infiltration, capitalism and communism are both jewish things.

Makes perfect sense, user.

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jew your grandmother!

This is disingenuous when the others don't have it because you firebombed their countries in service of the jews.

Or those who lost conflicts.

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This is why you build an efficient criminal justice system to punish jewry. Communism is just institutionalized jewry to all fields. What we have today is called crony capitalism, when judicial systems are too weak to punish and stop cases where government picks and chooses who lives and dies in a capitalist society. Do you think that Apple and Amazon not paying taxes are inline with what capitalism preaches, for example?

Regular capitalism is prone to cronyism anyway, especially in an industrialized system. It is arguably inevitable in an industrialized system.

How? Capitalist societies allow free entrance of competition. Technology always ensures new entrées in the market are more efficient than old companies. Cronism only happens when you cant punish those that game the system. The cost of attempting to use these tricks should always outweight the profits. Which is why you see the current capitalism bubbles, bank bailouts, monopolies/oligopolies….

So you're saying that a body is essentially a part of the problem for being prone to virus infection?

One thing I've noticed is how a communist's mental development is unironically retarded as he/she looks for their father/mother figure in the form of government instead of growing up and taking over the care over their life. Aka Big Daddy/Mommy. Pretty much everything falls into place when you figure in all the tv brainwashing and shit marriages.
Notice how I'm not using your commie meme word, commie.

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Case closed.

You cant have a fully free market with modern tech, it just will always lead to corporate kikery and poverty.

Watch The Godfather for a better picture of the fifties. TV sitcoms reflect that decade about as well as they reflect the present.

We have better creature comforts today, but our world war is much less heated. +1 for pointing out boomers' wealth was stripped from the carcasses of second and third world civilians.

Extended families were still a normal thing to see together until the 1990s. Blacks got hit in the mid 20th century by the CIA government, but two generations later whites caught up. Another generation past that the folks living back home in 'close-knit' countries like Mexico are also suffering from Millennial syndrome.

Culture runs in cycles. The 60s were just another coming-around of the same mass hedonism that is coming around again today. The consequences of this generation's decisions haven't even caught up with them yet.

You mean 1950s BC? Plenty of 1800s (and earlier) artwork openly ridiculing the state of marriage in their own periods.

New invention: subtle, unlike swing which was completely open about it.

Have fun getting shit-on to death.

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The criticism of capitalism isn't coming from communists here.

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I'm not arguing against private property or a market economy, im arguing against a fully unregulated economy where kikes and kikelikes are free to fuck over 90% of the population and even their people's interests.

Nigger can't read. Also, my point still stands.

Larping Jews like the Amish and Puritains that made up early America were better? Outright denying their culture and heritage and playing pretend. Yankees originally celebrated Thanksgiving so they could have a feast but not celebrate Christmas since it's too Pagan for these pretend semites.

Fuark

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