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what has caused the total decline and politicization of science?

Alfie Evans was pronounced as beyond by doctors and their word had the strenght of the law.

How do we stop the religion of scientism?
How do we make science great again?

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Don't call this a "Science hate thread" - call it what it is: a pseudo-science hate thread.

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Im afraid we well then talk about True Scotmanship.
Sadly it is what it is, science is in a crappy state so lets not go into semantics.

to expand Alfie Evans was pronounced as beyond right of his parents according to SCIENCE (medicine isnt actually science, but that is a different topic), and after that you loose control of your child.

Lets hate science appropriatly, for the RIGHT reasons and not for the LEFT reasons since worshipping science always bites you back in the ass.

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I blame Cuckstian Cuckservatives and their buttbuddies on the Left for this polarization between either pure spiritual, anti-reality as we see so often among Evangelicucks, and pure materialism, Rick-and-Memey-tier anti-spiritualism. America during the Cold War was at the forefront of technology back when the public was educated and had a conscious that combined spiritual teachings with scientific truths.

Kill yourself.

I dont think christians are to blame, far from it, prior to postmodernism while christianity way alive, we didnt see these nu-science types.

Well science is how much of our civilization has come about. Political ideologies love to claim what isn't theres for the purpose of making themselves being more established.

You don't know what you're talking about. The Cuckstian Cuckservatives legislated against the proper education of scientific truths in our schools, and now continue to promote their anti-reality lie known as "Creationism".

Let the ivory towers implode under the weight of feminist professors. In the end, they'll beg us to save them.

Evolution? lol, evolution is the definition of catch 22 circular pseudoscience theory. gg Christians!

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jews and women.

jokes on you. you cant argue for eugenics from evolution since everything that happens can be interpreted as adaptation.

By your own logic of evolution, white race is inferior since it has less numbers (evolutionary survival strategy).
You cant even say that high IQ is good or bad since high IQ people have less children…catch 22.

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As with most questions of such nature that arise in this horrible nightmare, the answer is: Jews.

Jews are what happened.

That's wrong though, because evolution isn't a moral judgement - it's a natural process by which populations change over time. Eugenics is the perfect example of this, because if populations don't change over time via natural (or sexual, in this case) selection, Eugenics would be 100% pointless because no change would be made. If Creationism were somehow true (It's not) - killing the downy babies would be a violation of the Will of (((YHWH))).

the moment we started to listen to SCIENCE about what to eat our health went to shit.
Similar case with prescription drugs and opium addiction.

The literally have the power, according to SCIENCE, to put you an a drug forcefully.
Science deserves more hate.

That's not science, that's sensational hoo-ha and corporate interest manifest.

it kind of is the same topic, in the sense that medicine, like many things, is not science but is presented as such. Medicine is not science, history is not science, global-warming is not science, democracy is not science (e.g., 98% of all scientists believe X therefore X is a fact of science), journalistic reports are not acience. I could go on.

A large cause of the problem with science is that most people are ignorant of what it means and unable to identify it.

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correct. you can be pro-eugenics weather you are a creationists or an evolutionists so your comment was futile.

>If Creationism were somehow true (It's not) - killing the downy babies would be a violation of the Will of (((YHWH))).

I like how longterm you are thinking, aborting babies with defects totally cant bite us in the ass. We can abort downies, but well never abort babies prone to racism…wont we?
Shortterm thinking people like you probably think, that abortion is good since more black babies are being aborted? Guess what, abortion is entirely anti-white. While it was illegal to abort white birth rates skyrocketed.

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they force and force that term to give them credibility.

One could argue that "non-science" and science are just different types of thinking, but I wanted to point out that modern science (16th century onwards) has a very different approach to things than medicine, which is few millenniums old.

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The women getting abortions aren't fit to be mothers anyway - supporting evolution by natural selection.

nigger you ever heard of r/K?

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and how is that working for you?
Are you seeing move towards more or less virtue in legal to abort times or in christian times?

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nu-science is a drain on the intellect why think about something new and innovative when there are people there to do that for you who get articles written about it.

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That's because abortion in modern times isn't being guided by a planned Eugenics program. It still helps us though - because the women who get abortions weren't going to do a decent job of raising their young anyway.

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Science is great and responsible for many of the good things that we have. The problem arises when science gets hijacked and used for politics, or when profit and prestige drives scientists to falsify data. That gives rise to our current "reproducibility crisis". The magnitude of pseudoscience that has been accepted as science is staggering.


The hijacking of science goes way beyond medicine, though medicine is likely the biggest offender due to the pressures put on research teams to continuously produce new products to keep their jobs. Political science is another big offender. Leftists will churn out BS to cling to their fairy tale of racial equality, and anybody who goes against that fairy tale will be fired and/or ignored. Cosmology is another field that is filled with bullshitters. Additionally, many modern physicists will grasp for straws to validate their models - such as the supposed detection of gravity waves by colliding black holes.

Reminder, 99% of the time when you hear "Scientists discovered X", "Scientists did Y", it's referring to 2 people.

Cultural Marxism happened. The rise of "social sciences" by literal card carrying communists and the takeover of Jews in American academia. Don't hate the theory of science, even if currently in practice it's used as a political weapon by the left. Using the tools of science to discern the truth about the world is how many of us ended up here today.


Proper Christian education already exists in private schools, but I sympathize somewhat the Evangelicals because liberals were deliberately trying to gain complete control over their kids' minds. However, the Evangelicals deserve their share of blame since they countered this by wanting the government to teach their religion, and doing so in the loudest most retarded way possible. I have respect for Philosophical Theology, but their theology is pure exoteric materialism draped in the Cross. Not to derail, but Christianity's biggest problem is it's universalism. Not all were meant to know the mysteries. To this day, I have conservative leaning friends who refuse to vote Republican due to the Bush-era evangelicals noisy battles in Science Wars of the 00s. Most importantly, they distracted everyone from the real enemy of science, the social justice left.


You're correct, natural selection is about maximizing short-term fitness, and the shitskins are currently doing a much better job, in evolutionary terms, than whites, even if their uncontrolled breeding ends with a massive population crash. However, eugenics is about recognizing the processes of evolution and using it to take our destiny into our own hands.

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Materialism is philosophically obsolete. There's no reason why spirituality and science should not be compatible with each other. I blame the kikes for associating spirituality with organized religion.

Pick two, and only two. Creationist brainwashing doesn't count as a proper education.

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The Cold War was only productive because we thought our lives depended on it. Marriage of rationalism and spirituality had little to do with it.


It's happened before and it will happen again. If you look in the right places, you can see it happening already.


Makes sense why you hate science so much, you fail to understand fundamental aspects of the things you're critical of. To break down a few of your points:

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Feminism and socialism taking over science not only turns it into a cult, it allows feminists to make sure people never find out about the Femin virus

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Please show me the math of propbability that we as humans exist. Pro tip; You can't, there's an infinite amount of other options for us not existing and hence evolution is fucking stupid because it's all based on chance, a chance on 1/infinity. But still, we exist.

By the law of natural selection, we should just let the kikes kill us aswell, shouldn't we?

I mean, we're letting them fool us. So why should we exist?

Brainless sissy retards need to be euthanised.

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The very improbability of our existence is the smoking gun against your perception that the universe was created with humanity in mind. The vast majority of existence is inhospitable to life - contradicting any anthropocentrism.

And evolution is a process we can reasonably deduce as an actual occurrence, as we have already observed thousands of speciation events, as well as a heap of evidence that it occured through the other primary means.

You. Can't. It will only go badly. Nothing in this world can ever be good.

Again, the process of natural selection is NOT a moral judgement - it's a natural process. You can use it to your advantage, or ignore it and suffer the consequences.

The fuck am I reading? By your logic jews are the biggest losers also.

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Everything went to shit after World War II. All books after World War II are shit quality. World War II's conclusion was the beginning of the age of lies.

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I've never taken any oaths. Oathuism is a shitty meme and all your efforts suck. Watch what happens.

I'm still right. You still know it. Watch What Happens. Prove me wrong, I dare you.

Materialism undermines the often necessary, though, irrational notion that there is more value than what is materially apparent. A functioning society for one.
Objectivism or platonism are necessary for having a worthwhile notion of spirituality, let alone philosophy. Philosophy has to deal with absolutes and agency. In say materialism, we can justify determinism to a point of destroying the agent. In say relativism or subjectivism, we have no absolutes. What is there to argue? There is no choice, there is no value.
[Scientific] positivism is effectively a secular version of the Christian goal of apotheosis, but without presuming/requiring that (((one))) shouldn't bear false witness, or covet, which are moral objectives.
Rationalists are not necessarily positivists, but are necessarily materialists. If they don't have some objective framework, then they are relativists. Logical consistency is at most characteristic of worth.

This poster somewhat agrees with you

nigger what are you talking about? Are you suggesting that because something is unlikely it is impossible?
The probability that any mutation in genetic code will occur is astoundingly low, but when placed in the context of billions of years of RNA/DNA copypasta that low-probability outcome rears its head. As organisms become more complex, the chances for a small mistake in coding within that single organism's genetic structure become higher as a function of the volume of material being transcribed. Even in less complex organisms, the volume function holds true (pic related) by way of number of individuals.


Except you and I are here, mentally masturbating day after day over having figured out some of the ways in which we've been duped. Does that not nullify any argument of superiority of the dupers? A man is only as intelligent as the information available to him permits him to be, and I'll let you guess who has an interest in keeping information from intelligent people.

This war on science is a shit-tier psyop designed to keep the sort of people that frequent this board - among others - uninformed, uninterested and uninvolved in scientific pursuits, by way of association.
Scientific methods and, by extension, evolutionary theory, proves Zig Forums right.
exists for a reason, and there's plenty more contemporary evidence being presented to support it, if you know where to look and how to read.

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One more thing: Evolution =/= Abiogenesis

My wife just finished her PhD in polymer science, and is a chemist by profession. When we met she was focused on going straight into academia, but now I've managed to convince her to go corporate. Nothing like having strict measures of failure and success (and a healthy paycheck) to reconnect scientists to the practical side of their work.

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These idiots only "love" science when it caters to their ideas. No wonder why it is so fucked.

Women cannot profess. They can rote, but they cannot internalize. This is because they do not pay. Daycare, at all its costs and misappropriations, is a collectivist failure a best or a cannibalization at worst.


The presence or not of (((science))) does not, has not, and will never, stop me from doing science every single day. What is happening, in expanding waves since the university accounts started, is the growing infiltration of them by asiatics/jews and (((academic complexes))) to sustain them. In which, all available printing presses - paper, currency, and electronic - are increasingly spammed at greater amounts to exploit propagation latency and thieve 'compensation' of resources. I have never seen a way to prevent this, when accounts are not allowed to be held responsible or die. Migration and demographic decline into these accounts continues.


Femin virus, as a generalized abstraction, is true. As an actual physical entity, not so. On the basis of the former, continue. Nevertheless, these discardeds and thrown-outs, genetic aberrations or not, are testament that the worst of entropy needs to be burned, not sit an be allowed to exploit individualism's-hopeful-redemption/altruism fantasy of impossible forgiveness.

Im pro-bettering our people, but evolution is a big fraud. Evangelicals dooned goof with pushing religion into schools and again we have a bite in the ass situation now that leftists control the school system.

what SCIENTIST with a bow tie told you that Creationism is bad?

yep. this is the irony of evolutionary nationalism.

nah, by evolutionary logic they are the real masterrace (K Mac didnt said that explicitly)

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I think you are confusing materialism with naturalism. Naturalism only deals with what we can observe and is ontologically neutral. Materialism makes unfalsifiable and unprovable claims about the nature of what we can observe.

Materialism doesn't eliminate the unseen - it actually does the opposite. For example, consciousness cannot be directly reduced to the activities of non-conscious "stuff", that's why modern materialists have taken the position that consciousness is not reducible to the activities of the brain. Instead, they assert that consciousness is that which emerges from the activities of the brain. They propose an invisible property called mind that magically pops into existence when non-conscious bits of matter reach a critical threshold of complexity.

I admit I don't follow your jargon. It seems to have some slight overloading of terms / shifting definitions.

Are 'betas' not materialists to the extreme? The beta syndrome is the taking of resources from any and all as able, to shunt into the abstract-female. This is 'normal' in the sense that men provision, provide, and protect, but is abnormal overall in the sense that it divorces progenitor. Beta complex injects their progenitor, and doesn't ensure the female is even feminine, which only makes the bottomless misappropriations and thefts they commit all the more egregious. They, through assisting (((failed females masquerading as women))) (aka feminists, dykes, lesbians, asiatic women, african women, etc), shovel everything they can steal or group-think misappropriate into so-called female holes. Quite materialist and transcendental. A bit like 'Star Gate' and 'Atlantis' and other science-beta-fantasy-fiction shows, a transcendental materialist cuckdom.

Incomplete, pointless materialism is incomplete. And pointless. These betas execute some of the mechanics of life, but crucially not all, and what instruction sets they do follow are misappropriated and corrupt. Life-engine failure: unknowingly self-terminating, coupled with self-piety of assured continuation. IE the failure of (((christiandom))) attempting to execute on invalid life.

In all of the above, natural occurs. No natural is neutral, by its own account. And all naturals use materials: some pointlessly, some with theft, some with autocracy, etc. Each continues to re-occur and use materialism, but the asiatic complexes don't establish unbroken lineage - they survive through cannibalism and using collectivism to misappropriate. All of these naturals even obey external constraints, such as winter and desert, with any non-conscious complex or simplex being thus irrelevant. What cannot be afforded, won't be.

that is mythology, not verifiable science. Transitional fossil DONT EXIST. When you point that out people always cop out with "well its hard to find them yadda yadda, well find them soon" despite the fact we should have already been knees deep in fossils (4.5 billion old stack).


nigga, soyence is being used as propaganda tool against you and your people.

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It's an actual viral bioweapon and it's a big reason that feminists and some progressives act the way that they do

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fossil record is a total joke

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils

and the longterm Escherichia coli experiment even after 60k gens didnt proved anything about evolution, only basic natural selection and hereditary mechanism.

Visit a museum sometime, you doublenigger.

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Yeah, whatever. Filtered, saged and reported.

show me HUMAN transitional fossils. Oh you dont have them? Youll discover them soon? How convinient.
show me what part of human bodies are vestigial.

Why the fuck would humans specifically be the exception among the probably tens of millions of taxa on this planet? and what exactly in your link does not satisfy the transition from chimp-like apes, to nigger-like apes and then to humans?

When you say
are you referring to their fiscal standings, their publications, their student body, or none of the above? I follow your general line of logic in regards to the state of the university systems of the West but am not familiar with the way you use the term "account."


Nope. You can demonstrate/observe this by many different means, one of which I posted in picture format.

Very literally, any fossil that we've found can be defined as a "transitional fossil," since it sits somewhere in the ancestry of a species. Your dad is "transitional" in the lineage that led to you. What would you call Australopithecus, for example? Neanderthalensis? Heidelbergensis?


literally how fucking retarded do you think we are

All organisms are transitional. All fossils are transitional. But you're a dolt that demands "half-this, half-that" fossils. So, what say you about Archaeopteryx?

Relax. I don't oppose.

I claim no viron particle; I suggest degraded genetics, and the natural consequence of paradise being exploited to expand/boom asiatic cannibals and african parasites as it comes due to contract/bust. Not even if these failures had more oxy, nor if they had less oxy, would their specific lineage-ending behavior abate. Thus oxy is, and femin is, but femin != oxy.

your picture format is a cute drawing.
where was evolution demonstrated? and dont point me to natural selection and make a logical jump to evolution.

do you realize that natural selection proves creationism as much as it proves 4.5 billion years of evolution?


I supoose you dont know the faulty methodology of dating that was used in your "proofs". stay scientific pickle rick.

The funniest part is that Homo rhodensiensis and Homo heidelbergensis cranial capacity and geographical differences pinpoint nearly the exact moment of the human/nigger split.

Laryngeal nerve. Palmar grip. Appendix.

You're exhibiting the characteristics of one who is deluded.

this is your SCIENCE.

Even if there was such case it still doesn't fucking invalidate the plethora of interlinked transitional forms in both molecular and morphological taxonomy producing results THAT ARE FROM CONSISTENT TO NEARLY IDENTICAL BETWEEN THE TWO RADICALLY DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES!

Ray Comfort please go.

What are you smoking? Might wanna wean yourself off before your dealer gets mugged.

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oh no! He pointed out that my argument is the same of the guy that a scientist with a bowtie mocked!
Arguments destroyed! What know christards!!!!!

But yeah, lets not use carbon dating the way it should be used (2000years max) lets just phish results. SOYENCE!

then why cant we demonstrate the same transition today, but stick only to historical interpretations?

It's a good thing law enforcement doesn't hold your delusion when it comes to crime scene investigation

Knew you'd make that argument, predictable Creationist. Too bad we use the half-life of other elements to compare.
I mean, you could have been reasonable and at least try theistic evolution, but noooo, you gotta suck that (((YHWH))) dick and be a Young Earth Creationist.

so you agree that carbon dating of fossils is nuscience?


enlighten me.

Anybody using Carbon-14 dating doesn't know what they're doing.
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No, go do your own reading, dummy.

>anybody using Carbon-14 dating on dinosaur fossils and the like doesn't know what they're doing *

HAIL RAY COMFORT for exposing nuscience though in gov schools?


I did, you literal soyentists. You made a point, youll have to argue from it.

I'm not overloading terms. The word materialism has multiple meanings. It can refer to materialistic people who value material things or it can refer to the philosophy of materialism which holds that matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and that all things, including mental aspects and consciousness, are results of material interactions.

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Since you were talking about materialism being opposed to spirituality in a scientific conversation I assumed you were talking about the latter, because many proponents of the philosophy of materialism clash with spirituality. They also tend to erroneously believe that they have the scientific high ground when they do not.

Anyway, the monistic materialism goes beyond what we can observe and makes unfalsifiable assumptions. Naturalists try to stick to what we can observe and remain neutral as to the nature of the world around us. That's the main point I was trying to make there.

also, they know exactly what they were doing - they are fishing for results.

Alright, brainlet, since you refuse to read on your own and insist on spreading bullshit - I'll go ahead and tell you. Carbon-14 dating is EXTREMELY accurate, but only for things 50,000 years or younger - past that and you get inaccurate readings. That's why we're not taught about dinosaur fossils being tested with radiocarbon dating in our schools - because nobody uses radiocarbon dating for that.
Use your favorite search engine to ask "why dont we use radiocarbon dating dinosaur bones" and find out more. And don't use "Answers In Genesis" for an answer, dumbass.

No, what we use for dinosaur bones includes such things as fission track, potassium-argon and argon-argon, chemical analysis of the bones, stratigraphy, biostratigraphy, and paleomagnetic stratigraphy. Shut up about Radiocarbon dating, dumbo.

I didn't know land cetacea feces could do science.

There's a reason Darwin called it the theory of evolution by natural selection. If a population has been selected for a certain set of traits over a time period, those traits become prevalent while mutually exclusive traits diminish in frequency. That population has now "evolved," as descendants of that population will reflect that selective process.


Usually trolls as dedicated as you are tend to avoid missteps such as this. You want to appear to be just on the edge of the in-group, cite trusted sources, then challenge paradigms through dialectical reasoning masquerading as logic. With this post you essentially out yourself as having no logical basis for anything at all by making a nonsensical equivalency that's too easy to identify. Good luck with your future efforts, I'm sure I'll see you around.


My money has been on the Dmanisi, Georgia finds from the 90s. Fully-fledged H. erectus in the Caucasus mountains 1.8mya is, to me at least, strong evidence of a Eurasian origin for Neanderthalensis, among others. Divergence of "human" lineages happened far longer ago than most people know.

As an aside, whenever any user hears someone use the term "anatomically modern human" (AMH in many publications) in reference to anthropology, ask them to define the term or, for greater effect, the negative definition of the term.
If they're informed but bluepilled they'll tell you it's largely down to craniometrics and pelvic shape to accommodate encephalization, namely
Then ask, with a puzzled look, at what point in our development we lost those things, or simply ask them why certain extant populations of "humans" still exhibit one or all of them. Pic related. As a second aside, ask them at what point in the human lineage we stop associating larger endocranial volume with an increase in intelligence, which is the single defining trend in human evolution.

Best part is, that isn't even a meme. Jewgle still shows nothing but blacks when that phrase is searched and still hasn't removed the obvious redpill of a suggestion.

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Understood. I was interpreting on a resource production and consumption; You were referring to a belief side. Fair enough. That 'ism' on the end of 'materialism' I had ignored to focus on the 'material' part. Nevertheless:

I assume nothing of the sort. And regard such sentences as being bizarre. Spirit is. Material is. Material is not spirit, though spirit is material – the former being substance, the latter being of substantial guiding importance. Substance != substantial. Is this not word play? Should sentences like the above not take care to define themselves away from the artificial classist and marxist models of thought? Ex: gender vs sex (academic abstraction that can't exist in a vacuum, vs what actual totality).

Who is the real science denier here? We have decades of years of studies on race and IQ, links between race and crime yet the left when confronted with it crys and shits it pants while yelling RACCIIIIIIST

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This is why there can only be one party.

What most people don't seem to understand is that "science" is a philosophical school of thought, not an objective institution unrelated to social circles

I don't regard that as an assumption. It's an observation. Proponents of materialism often outright mock spirituality.

Oh, right. The oxytocin deficiency is merely a symptom. They also likely have damaged hypothalamuses and limbic systems.

Thank you.