Read SIEGE, a friendly reminder

Reported for being alt right.

For fucks sake, I know which shill you are.

Nigger, I read the book I just don't see what so special about. That's fucking all, I don't give a shit of others read it or not. Plus I recommend to read something Gottfried Feder wrote, how the fuck does that make me an alt-kike?

autism

Are you implying that we should try to reason with lemmings?

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Are you mentally disabled? Read the name of the file and the context of the post.

how to know that someone hasn't read Siege, 101.
why don't you elaborate on this?
Derailing.

Your thread doesn't belong here.

The context is that the individuals saying
are alt-right and therefore wrong.

If I misread your post, that means that you do believe in "tricking" the normies. In which case, your meme doesn't make sense.

NO
The revolution failed. The coup failed. Eating up your pride and going through the system is how Hitler won. If there is good in us, this is how we win.
Be prepared for violence. Be prepared for coups, ours or theirs.

Post WW2 Natsoc literature is more than likely full of lies and misdirections. Go for the pre-WW2 material.

Actually, it's quite the opposite.
There never was a revolution. We've been trying to work through the system since Rockwell, and it could have worked back then. Revolution has never been done, and it's the only way forward for us now. Winning in the way Hitler did and Rockwell could have is not an option anymore. People don't get inspired to join a movement by 20 people holding flags having to be protected by the police from 100s of screaming violent idiots.
I don't like Siege, though. I prefer the Northwest Independence novels.

t. increasingly nervous jew

the concept of tricking normalfags is asinine and basing your revolutionary, grass roots movement upon what has to appeal to and trick normalfags is retarded and leads to a PRcuck shitfest like the alt-kike. Normalfags are agents of the system, they will be the agents of any system, be it good or bad, because they're too stupid or weak willed to resist.

how to massively contradict yourself in two easy steps

Siege is interesting.
However the people who is promoting it and screaming "Read SIEGE faggots!" are Atomwaffen fags with not NatSoc goals.
Attomwaffen have been hijacked by satanist who don't care about the 14 words.
There is plenty of info about this:
- "OAD": docs.google.com/document/d/1Jp97-5XXZ1qd6WAqjPoWAI8JlvczSG6OVm4vQufjhaE/edit
- "Satanic Vampire Neo-Nazis" where the whole thread is full of read pill explaining the satanic and Fed infiltration: kiwifarms.net/threads/satanic-vampire-neo-nazis-atomwaffen-division-siegeculture.38120/
At page 5, "jew" (the pseudo jew from The_D_Stormer) explains what is going on and suggest to stay away from them: kiwifarms.net/threads/satanic-vampire-neo-nazis-atomwaffen-division-siegeculture.38120/page-5

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Reported.

What you say is somewhat correct. However if lemmings are agents of the System, then the only way to win their loyalty is to become the System.
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but you can't burn the place down. If Timmothy McVeigh didn't burn it down by blowing up Oklahoma City center, if 9/11 didn't burn the place down, if Katrina didn't break the System, if LA riots didn't break the System, no amount of small scale bomb throwing will either.

Do you want to know how I know you are a leftist "pacifist"?

Preparation for violence =/= committing it. Carrying a gun and being prepared to shoot everybody =/= shooting everybody.

Do you know where you are? This board is perfectly happy with voting republican and playing by the rules even though we have decades of poof that this DOES NOT WORK. Accelerating the collapse so that we can build something new is our only option

Look at the literature in the OP you dribbling idiot.

All of what I say is correct

Reported.

Zig Forums is a board of peace.

So you oppose trying to burn the System down. You also oppose becoming the System. Yet you believe that the lemmings will always and only support the System.
That leave us with few options.

That's code for "no one will ever fight back"

I am a peaceful Christian.
Satanists and Feds are kryptonite.

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And you of course are marching on the street and are kicking out kikes and commies all day everyday.

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Now you're just being an obtuse retard.

Organization with a few close friends in your area comes first. Create an underground movement that makes your presence known through flag actions, pamphlets, posters, etc. And don't let the enemy know how many of you there are, or who you are.
When the Jews push their luck and do something drastic, as they always do, people will side with you over the bullshit. That's when you start shooting kikes.
Just make your idea, not your faces, known to the community

Yeah, no one wants you to wake up and realize these religions are symbolic, and not objectively true.

Lemmings cannot be compelled to support anything other than the System
Those who attempt this are cucks
Lemmings cannot be compelled to support anything other than the System

Your own words
If lemmings will not support anything other than the System, then the only logical option for someone who wants to take power is through the System.

Stop picking at something you think is a d&c point, filthy kike.
I'm no Christian, but I'd stand toe to toe with any one of them to face down kikes and fulfill the 14 words.

Apedre is anti-SIEGE

Is that Boxxy?

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Even if everything he says is true, I'd trust the autism waffles over an admitted jew and his buddies from the fuckshack.

how convenient for you to be able to label critique as disingenuous, when anyone with an above-lukewarm IQ cringes at the writing inside this trainwreck of an attempt

It quite simply IS 1.0 revivalism
It's pathetic and sad
An exercise in social isolation
Cynically targeting the weak-minded and exluded like the fucking juggalos
inorganic support
can you spell inorganic support?

nice redtext block you reddit faggot

this.

false dichotomy, very talmudic

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If there is a third option, I am all ears.

Jew shill confirmed. They say this every single fucking time. Without fail. Copied and pasted.

Oxymoron. You are not a Christian.

What do you think the two option are?
And why are you saging, jewboy?

Because Siege is a shit book.

You stated that lemmings (normies as you put it) are completely loyal to the System.
Do you deny this?

If you don't want to read or don't have the time, you can also listen to Alex Linder's audiobook of it. He did a really good job.
archive.org/details/Siege-by-James-Mason-1980-1986

Just get to your point already, stop acting like a jew

I don't use faggot alt-kike language and you're dodging the question.

I'm trying to have a conversation with
First he says that lemmings are loyal to the System and this will never change.
The logical consiquence of this idea is that attaining power without seizing control of the System is impossible because lemmings will never support anything other than the System.
What part of this is too complex for you to understand? I am being as clear as possible.

If lemmings are loyal to the System and this will never change, it follows that taking power is impossible without first seizing control of the System.

How do you expect to take control of the system? Just keep voting republican and magically the jews will just hand over the reins one day?

Anglin is anti-Natsoc you mong.

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garbage thread. You wrote the words OPSEC, and basic bitch. If you really wanted to have a thread on SIEGE you would upload specific chapters to discuss and such, but you just
go back

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That's the difficult part. It's not exciting or heroic. And it takes years. It's too huge a subject to tackle in one post but one thing that we can do is continue pushing the Zeitgeist further "right" through effective positive pro-White propaganda. Social media is key and this is why the kikes are trying to shut us down.
This also involves forming organizations in the real world. The jews did not take power through bombs or as anonymous individuals who never networked but as a cohesive block. Networking is the key to success.

No, AW is splintered into factions now. IM fell apart, every one of it's satellite groups spun off in different directions. They aren't even allowed in Discord anymore. There's no centralization of their work, membership, or thinking anymore. They aren't allowed to overlap with any of the alt-right forums. The fact is, there was always a faction that over-emphasized Mason's views on Manson's "luciferianism", but that's a tiny portion of Siege as a whole, and was never representative of AW as a whole. It's a great strawman for cucks and D&C ops, who want to distance aeveryone from anything related to Natsoc. So go ahead and keep repeating that bullshit, you're just outing yourself as an aut-kike shill, JIDF, or a moron.

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There isn't a gentile equivalent to the elders of zion, with a multi-century plot for control. If you think the jewish method is going to work for us, then you shouldn't expect anything to change for at least half a millennium. The kikes completely own the system, we aren't going to subvert them out of it, and definitely not our lifetimes.

Isn't Mason CI now anyway?

your style is cheap, it's hard to find creatives in the AW bunker chat, isn't it?

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That's what I've heard. Mason is someone worth studying, it's worth reading Siege, but don't worship him like a guru. He wasn't as successful and Rockwell or Hitler, whose ideas he owes a lot to. His views on religion and "meta politics" were always too esoteric to be useful, and should have been left out. He was literally trying too hard to be edgy, and it was obviously something the kikes would jump on the D&C like they currently do. Just like they claimed Rosenberg and Hitler were Rothschilds, Zionsts, Satanists, etc. In a way its logical, like Rockwell's logic about the swastika, but it's taking something clearly Jewish (satanism is jewish, it has no roots in anything Aryan) and promoting it with no clear benefit. At least the swastika was once a universal Aryan symbol (not even 100 years ago), and is the oldest symbol of Aryan spirituality.

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Not an equivalent. However there are similar organizations such as Golden Dawn.
The best person who encompasses my personal beliefs is William Pierce who sought to create an alternative to the System. One that self funds and has autonomy to act, if it needed to.
However you're right that this would take many years, though I don't think it would take half a millennium. Remember, the kikes were fighting against nature, as they always do. We are merely seeking to restore our racial consciousness. That's a much easier task by comparison.
But yes. It will take many, many years. Decades.
If you know of a method that will work sooner, I am all ears. But based on everything we know about the political landscape, revolution doesn't work and individuals don't work. We need a solid foundation in order to rebuild a White society.

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WTF MUH OPTICS, MUH BASED NIGGERS, MUH NOT ALL JEWS

Pretty much every one of our predecessors should be studied, both for their achievements and their failures. Their failures are often worth more than their successes, because it tells us exactly what not to waste time on.

This is why I hate SIEGE fags.

If you have a quicker option, I'm all ears. But until we have an army and weapons and billions of dollars, we cannot overthrow the System militarilly.

No, its pretty obvious when people are complaining about it and haven't read it. You don't make valid complaints, its not even a matter of opinion. Complain about books you've actually read.

I have read it and it is shit. And your ignorance is common among almost all Siege faggots. This is why I hate Siege faggots. You people are complete idiots with no arguments and no understanding of the real world outside of your larpy little book.

If you only argument in favour of your ideology is accusing your opponents of not having read a sloppy book, your position is shit.

alt-kike unveiled.
Look, bucko, it's glaringly obvious when people haven't read SIEGE by the nature of their critique.
Go ahead, make some specific criticisms of specific chapters, feel free to pull up a few reference quotes.

Why does anyone trust jew he is a literal Jew.

fuck your wordfilters
W E E V
I said W E E V
you dumb faggots

We're up against a united jewish system, nothing like what they opposed. They control the government, political parties, media, finance, education, etc. Voting and social media posts aren't going to change that.

/thread

No! That's a rumor started by his lying mother, ignore all the times he admitted it himself.

Just use his real name, user, Alan Ginsberg.

If your only defense is accusing people of not reading a shit book, your ideology and hero are shit too.
The entire thing reads like it was written by a middle school student.
Mason presents zero new ideas. It's actually tough to criticize it because there is no substance.

Also, I like how you have hijacked the conversation away from my criticism of your failure to come up with an alternative to networking and onto my disagreement with worhiping the LARP fest known as siege.

But sure. Want to go through your trash page by page? Fine.
Name a single accomplishment that his shit accomplished. Name a single goal or idea or original thought in his shittily written, sloppily edited, directionless, rambling highschool rough draft compilation.

If their control were as omnipotent as they want you to believe, then resistance would be impossible.

your posts are the exact same as the anti little shill. you offer nothing, your just

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Just the kind of "resistance" you're suggesting. Since you think I'm wrong, can you show some proof that jews don't control the media, aren't the biggest donors to both political parties, don't dictate foreign policy, and aren't in control the biggest financial institutions?

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Control over the mass media and being the largest donors to both political parties doesn't make the kikes invincible.

< asked to make specific criticisms, fails miserably, resorts to shitposting
absolutely hebraic

I didn't say anything about them being invincible, but voting for politicians they control and wearing red sneakers isn't going to stop them.

If Mason was a real National Socialist Philosopher, he would have come up with a real ideology or developed real and effective tactics for defeating the System like Dr. William Pierce.
But he is not William Pierce.
He's even alive and yet doing nothing.

Voting is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about building support networks and running. Take control of the System.

im glad people like you ruin your own bullshit cause by acting retarded. No body reads siege because retards like you push them away from it.

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you add nothing at all to the thread, just attempts at insults. What is your goal here? You have zero argument, your just wasting posts. Its called pilpul, something you accused other anons of doing.

you..you mean like what Hitler did? surely not wont work??? reeed seeeej maaaynnn

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I will not have books on this board.

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meant for you faggot

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kampfy stahp

Why are you still acting like you've read the book? You transparently haven't. Anyone who has actually read the book can easily look through your posts ITT and see you posting utter garbage. Mason introduced a completely new perspective on the System and the uphill struggle facing us, which is why national socialists should read the book. The idea that the guy should've invented a completely new ideology when national socialism already exists (which he was a staunch supported of through the entire book and still is to this day), is simply ludicrous.
He isn't doing nothing, he's written a new book called The Theocrat and he's working with the SIEGEculture people, he's done some podcasts, interviews etc.

all you've done itt is shitpost like a nigger. Water Filtrated.
>>>/bog/

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Hitler learned from the failed uprising in Bavaria and came out of prison a wise and effective political player. He won completely within the law through practical politics. Most revolutions or so called revolutions are actually completely within the law. Mussolini didn't seize power in a coup, he made a power play and was appointed supreme leader. Even Lenin played party politics and had the Russian congress been just a tiny bit more intelligent, he could have been arrested and executed and the Russian Civil War avoided entirely.
The kikes seized power completely within the law. Bob Matthews tried to stage a revolution and burned to death.
People say that the lemmings are loyal to the System at all costs and this is not entirely true. They're loyal to their morality. The problem is that the System and by that I mean the jewish media bosses create a false (((morality))) to adhere to. But if you change the morality, if you change the zeitgeist, then you can walk into the Whitehouse to the sound of thundering applause.

This is your argument and it fails upon arrival.
Maybe I'll get around to reading The Theocrat. Maybe not. Siege was one of the sloppiest, least interesting books I've ever read. As for doing some podcasts and interviews, that sure is amazing.
Writing a shitty book and doing some podcasts puts Mason on Richard Spencer's level of effective leadership. Great job.

Thank you user, put this faggot to bed.

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Yeah no. hooktube.com/watch?v=WqREtbt__O8

cherry picked one thing you could argue and ignored the rest. The absolute state of seejtards.

I'm Using a VPN that keeps changing IPs for whatever fucking reason. I'm actually this guy
That video I posted is something you'd be interested in. It's a multiple parts documentary.

This has never been my argument you utter faggot. my argument is that the manner in which you "critique" SIEGE makes it extremely apparent that you haven't even read the book. ive talked to a multiple of people who have read SIEGE and can make clear criticisms of the content, ive talked to even more retards who claim to have read it and pull the same garbage out of their ass that you've been doing.

Sure bud.

Again I read it, wasn't interesting. That's all I have to say.

Except that isn't all you had to say, was it? You said that it was poorly written, didn't present any new ideas and that Mason should have invented an entire new ideology.