Thinking out loud about a solution

Not sure if this is even allowed, but I honestly have no one else to talk these things with, and I believe it touches on general subject matter of Zig Forums. Also sorry for bad English, Im a Slav that absolutely never uses it for anything.
I've been thinking about the law, economy, military, politics, diplomacy, societal values and culture, and the more I think about all these, the more I see one thing as a possible solution to everything.
W A R

Let's talk about war, Zig Forums.
War economy puts a stop to all of this shit. If you are in a war, you dont give a shit about funding any of the crap above. War economy makes sense.
Nothing like a war would demonstrate that female of the species can not carry a 20 kilos/45 pounds machinegun uphill for 3 days without a sleep. Or pull wounded to safety. And so on. War would destroy feminism.
War would also put a quick end to pink haired 'men' who cant bench their body weight. Laziness, flamboyancy, undiscipline, anti-austerity, carelessness, these would all quickly disappear.
These would be self removed too.
War would remove all of these too. Being a welder or an electrician or car mechanic in a war economy or in combat would be more desirable, and no one would bat an eye at these fucking journalism or whatever the fuck degree holders of today.
All these things would at least be semi-justified too, however they would have to be much more serious than what you have today.
Would be guarded by gunships, motorized 'shoot on sight' patrols and so on. War would improve those too.
Fascism naturally saw war as a natural state of things. Peace was just tactical, peace is just a time to reload all your guns, ultimate purpose of peace was war, you use peace as you use everything else, to prepare for war.

Big one. Would also be removed in case of a war. Soft power has nothing on hard power. Jew never dominated a host that was on a warpath, jewery thrives in peacetime. Nations in wars have their priorities straight, values in natural order, in war you pursue peak performance and you are getting rid of parasitism, your thinking is sober and not on drugs or confused or war removes you. Jews cant jew a nation in a state of war.

GENERALPLAN: WAR
Basically, a paramilitary or para-state similar to Hitler's freikorps (or later sturmabteilung, storm battalions) needs to be set up to rival the kiked up zog state. And all states are zog-ed. The states we have now, and the taxes we are paying today, are all used against us. What we need are alternative police, alternative military (paramilitary), alternative media, whole fucking state really.
After all of that is set up, you need some sort of a (civil) war to wake up the population and make it run to you. Just like Hitler had communists (leftist faction, jewish led), zentrum (center, Weimar democratic official ruling faction and its police, jewish led), and criminals (organized crime, drug and prostitution, non-official jewish faction) all fighting it out in the streets of Weimar, general white population found refuge in Hitler's alternative party.

What Zig Forumsacks should do is set up para-states, alternative states in their own states, kick off a civil war using false flags between modern jewed states and jewed communists that will make general population uncomfortable and seek refuge somewhere, and be that somewhere for them.

And just this time, no expansions inside Europe. Once these judenfrei healthy societies are formed, instead of invading other white societies, they should help them become judenfrei instead. All expansion should be done exclusively into shitskin zones.

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Maybe, but they can definitely create enemy after enemy for you between their lying press and false flags. You think you're just fighting a few countries and then the Jews mobilize everything they've got.

Jews can fabricate enemies like Iran when they are running the state. That is why an alternative, para-state needs to be set up, and that is why a civil war has to be started.

Europe and Americas are all polarized as all hell. Hell, civil war might even start organically. What is needed is this national socialist alternative. Normal people will flock to it since they have seen the result of everything else.

The same (((people))) that push war is the natural state of humans are the same people that say your ancestors were drunkards. All wars are (((bankers'))) wars.

Cant just imply implications without any sources or at least elaborating your buzzwords.
Why is war not the natural state that promotes the healthiest society? Why were all of my ancestors drunkards? How was Hitler's war a banker war?

I am not saying that a relatively peaceful and healthy national socialist society couldnt exist AFTER the shitskins and jews are removed. But even then, even after these wars, if this society was to be based on merit and friendly competition among proper whites who wouldnt overpopulate, the same values that worked in a war would work here again.

Pacifism is bullshit, pushed on us mostly by the jews, who are utterly militaristic. He who reforge his sword into plough will simply be ruled by the guy that doesnt.

Hitler's war was really Churchill's, and Stalin's war, both of whom were financed by kikes.

this, churchill is why WW2 ever kicked off.

What about the Persian wars? Did Athens build all those ships for the bankers?
get a grip

Honestly, It's up to China to find a solution. Nobody did anything after the 2008 kosher wealth transfer. Nobody doing anything now about Israel killing peaceful protesters proves we're too broke, drugged and obese to find a solution. The U.S. is finished.

Yes, which is why we need to create a national socialist faction or party inside our states, and topple the zog states.
A false flag civil war between commie jews and liberal/capitalist jews should make the general population run to us. Cat and mouse game of commie terrorists and increasingly tyrannical state would be destroying each other, while more and more people look for alternative. Which is where Hitler style alternative steps in.

I know you're not a native English speaker, but damn you're new if you don't know about the international (((bankers))) and how they manufacture history to justify pogroms. Start with the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, they want total war– not us. They want us in constant war, crisis and debt so we're in a more easily controlled ignoble state to satisfy their blood lust. I know it's fun to troll around as a caricature of ebil nasi to scare jews but be a National Socialist instead; you shouldn't internalize political game theory nonsense and our enemies' propaganda of us.

If you want to be a real warrior, not just a boozed up conscript for a war, you'll have to learn how to win a bad peace. That's when the most damage occurs with their pogroms and the tables are set, an actual war is just playing out what has already been laid.

Lets start by agreeing that desirable values exist. And lets also agree that our present day zog societies are undesirable.
How, other than trough war, do you improve this?

Without a war, you have faggots, feminism, laziness, wastefulness, being anti-sober, being relaxed, diseased, not careful, and not paying attention to what social policies and laws are in effect, how many trillions in foreign aid israel steals.
I also know that policy of total war, and war economy was something National Socialist Germany pursued.

C I V I L W A R

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We need an army, not a party. It would take forever to gather the resources needed to accident the jews who destroyed America.

Trump pulled off a miracle by taking control of the Republican Party and all it got him is control of a marketing department targeting small/medium business owners and conservative Christians. If he marched into D.C. with an army, America would be great again. China has an army. They need to start accidenting jew geezers.

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Do you understand the Communist jew's relentless assault on our Constitutionally protected, Creator granted rights yet?

The United States has been at war for the past 80 years and all of the shit you say would stop still happens. Western governments don't serve their people, they serve the kikes. We can retake our nations and forge them into states that care about the culture and heritage of our people but it won't be by starting a brother war that massacres fellow whites. The solution isn't war but removing matzo.

There's a quote from "Mein Kampf" that aids your argument: "In eternal battle mankind can find greatness. In eternal peace it will find destruction."

The problem with this and the reason why you're a cocksucking fucktard is because this board is infested with every alphabet and kike defense agency on the planet.

Anything you try to "plan" here will be immediately seen by every FBI, CIA, ADL, etc agent, who will then immediately enact plans to subvert and destroy any pro-white organization from within, like they did with the (((Alt-Right))).

hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch07.html

Read this first.

rights are a sham and there is nothing "creator-given" about them

The United States military has been an instrument of )ewry for decades. The United States has not been at war. It's taxpayer funded weapons of violence have been used to kill and steal worldwide. United States taxpayers have been fleeced to support )ewry's false cancer state in the Middle East.

War solves all the problems but kikery. War + gassing kikes would create a peace that lasts for eons.

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This isn't your blog, cunt.

Let the goldbergs keep making the mistakes we'll keep winning by doing what Zig Forums does best.

That's probably the best strategy advice you can give online. Local movements are much more difficult to subvert, and it's incredible that there are still faggots that think that strategy can be discussed here. Websites are only to share news and other non-compromising information. And everything must be taken with a grain of salt as a lot of disinfo is around here as well.

Well then what the fuck have they been doing in the US for the last 100 years?

US never had a war on their soil, except the civil war centuries ago.

America didnt have the war I am talking about since the civil war. By war I dont mean 4 electrical engineers sitting on their ass droning muslim subhumans. By war, I mean the entire population being affected. Let me repeat that. By war, I mean entire population being affected.

Churchill's War was really his Jewish Handler's War. He was one of the biggest Jewish Puppets in history.

I wish for war daily. I think the Jews have caught on and realize a war or economic collapse right now would only out them as the parasites they are.

The Great Depression of the 1930s had people then looking for someone to blame. And they rightly found The Jews to blame. Thus the rise of Hitler.

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So why didn't the same happen in the US?
The great depression was pretty bad there as well right?

Read an entire sentence before correcting someone..

Nobody ever pauses to think that an entire continent rose against the jew having realized what the jew is. Could so many people all have been wrong, or were they exactly as they wrote, fighting to survive as an independent place removed of the eternal ZOG?

The US was too sparsely and insularly populated back then to create any nationwide unified movement. Cucked by demographics imo

War is totally a Zig Forums subject. War is the continuation of politics by other means.

War with whom?

Put simply: the Zionist Occupational Government.

This includes the heads of many major corporations and "think-tank" social engineers and their Deep State proxies.

In the process we may encounter Leftist Zionist controlled meat shields and puppets, right wing neocon pied pipers of the moderate ever cucking right, and any variety of hollow soulless nihilistic degenerate ZOGbots who crawl out of their office cubicle safe space.

There is much at stake and we need to focus on breaking the EU and North American kalergi zones and their marxist underpinnings before we can engage war on any outside cucked Israeli forces. Our war is Zig Forums and Zig Forums is our war.

DEUS VULT SIEG HEIL AND FORWARDS TO THE FINAL VICTORY!

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War is a kike profiteering/depopulation scheme, goys systematically killing eachother is literally doing their job for them, there hasn't been a just war in centuries, more over, there hasn't been a war that wasnt started directly because some filthy rich kike wanted it and there won't be one if they don't want it to happen, you are a fucking dunce if you really think war is the way to un-kike the place, that's the problem with places like this where you people come to LARP as if you actually had the political and economic power to socially engineer the planet, you end up only with wishful thinking and fantastical bullshit instead of actual practical solutions that could be applied to the real world.

Know your place, you are a common man, you know what's the only thing common men can do about the current state of things? (Ironically being the most effective thing at fixing the world that you could ever try to accomplish), it's being a saint, if you and every person you know, and every person they know and so on, tried their hardest to be objectively principled and perfect without an ounce of bullshit trying to justify evil in any way, kike plots wouldn't fly an inch, nowhere, because all would be systematically foiled and rejected by people that know better, that can't be bought nor threatened, martyrs and heroes, because it takes two to tango, and you win by refusing to dance, which funnily enough would make them go apeshit and throw another global tantrum in the form of a world war, but guess what, it wouldn't fly as well if the majority of people weren't swayed to do their bidding, you don't even need to expect sainthood from everyone (you can't anyway), you just need a sizeable majority that inspires awe and virtue to the rest of the world.

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Quality post Slavbro
sums it all up quite nicely

You forgot to inb4 Christian's are the largest refugee importers in the world

Not exactly wrong but some effort must be put in redpilling the ZOGbots. If it wasn't for the armed forces and the police being good goyim grunts we could have enacted DotR like a decade ago.

No. It was the opposite.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews#Under_Achaemenids

That's easy to say but hard to accomplish.
In order to accomplish anything we first need organization. Only trough organization comes power.
Yet every time White patriots get organized, all the kikes need to do is stir up a meme that they're controlled opposition and then no one on Zig Forums will lift a finger to help them.
And this is extremely easy to do.

So we want war
anyone starting one?

Think of it this way user, all the comped right wing movements and the real uncomped ones serve different purposes. What we really need is for there to be a sort of funnel leading down to the bedrock of truth about the JQ. We need to be that bedrock and keep fighting here no matter what our irl plans or communities must be. The very point of user is to keep us well… at least living with the illusion of safety. You wouldn't post your plan to form a local militia here, but you would plan any activity which keeps your name off the board.

As long as there are new operations and anons carrying them out then we will create the Imperium of Man.

Don't be blackpilled. Patrick Little is legit and we aren't falling for kike D&C any more - at least I hope you Zig Forumsacks aren't. In fact, the term D&C itself has been popularized so more newfags and normies understand the COINTELPRO and Alinsky tactics we are facing. A big shalom to unit 8200 and JIDF for being useless pieces of jewish shit!

I agree with you on most points but what you fail to realize is that Jews gain even more power from wars. They are in all the highest levels of government. They are in all the highest levels of the corporations who would profit the most from a wartime economy. If the war is against Jews, just look at how WWII turned out. They have more power than ever because of the holohoax setting off the current era of human history. The entire world needs to be unanimously against kikes, slaughtering them in the streets of every nation until there are none left. Otherwise war only gives them more strength and throws away valuable lives for nothing.

Check this out

some guys were already doing that but the FBI framed their leader on fake bomb plot charges and then satanist niggers infiltrated the group. if you want to be successful against zog, copy atomwaffen, they got shut down harder than any nationalist group since The Order

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We can recycle their aesthetics. Their website looked pretty dope tbh

yeah, they knew what they were doing (which is why they got shoah), their entire modus operandi is worth emulating.
also worth investigating: IRA

Rest assured the next one will be. Targets: Red States.

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Absolutely correct.
Another organization that I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet is Golden Dawn. They literally have MPs and strong sympathizers within the military and police apparatus. We will need support from within the System in order to destroy it.

Don't forget the jewish bankers' war of 1812

Completely incorrect.

Alright then. Please give me an example of a political revolution of any sort occurring without support from elements within the military.
Please prove me wrong with facts and logic.

You mentioned the IRA. Are you unaware that the IRA had thousands of supporters within the System that they fought who supplied information, conducted espionage, and assisted in conducting attacks and assisting the paramilitaries in escaping the police and military?

the enemy has complete and absolute control of our governments. they have already won. no level of governance is pro-white in any way, shape or form.
the enemy also has complete and absolute control of our military.
the IRA had the support of millions of irish people and were fighting an invading force that they could clearly identify as the enemy.
we do not have the support of millions of people and are fighting the system upon which 99.99% are reliant on, and will not be separated from, upon pain of death.
the military and police are also entirely reliant upon the system.
the entire system is rotten to the core and already in a managed collapse, it is too polluted and cannot be saved nor rectified.
perhaps having people within the system to commit sabotage could be beneficial, but i don't see us having manpower to achieve this any time soon

either way, there is no absolute necessity for us to operate within the system to destroy it

You describe a completely hopeless situation.
On the one hand, the IRA had millions of supporters and we do not and, at least accordng to you, have no chance of getting any support from within the System.

Yet you present a contradiction. On the one hand you say that the enemy has complete control of all relevant institutions. Clearly they have everything under control then. Yet you also say that they are so incompetant that they are collapsing. If their control was total, then we wouldn't be in a state of collapse.

Let's say you're right and the enemy is in complete control of the military yet are also losing control of the System and it is collapsing.
What do you think happens when it collapses? You have no organization with which to fill the void. You know who does have organization and can provide stability? The military and political institutions.
They don't just dissappear during an economic collapse, you know.

Still waiting for an example of a revolution that succeeded without support from within the military establishment.

Anyone got any good books, etc for learning opsec?

The situation is hopeless and you should amend your mindset appropriately.
This isn't a contradiction, the people who control the system aren't collapsing, the system is collapsing.
A systemic collapse is not an economic collapse
Well the bolshevik revolution for one, if you can miraculously drum up a national socialist military wing in a 100% jewish system then be my guest

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How about just hunt down and kill those causing the problems? We know who they are ffs

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nigger did you just test how to sage?

Not sure how anyone can still by this after how useless Trumps been on everything other then support Israel


Probably just checking if he's still kampfyed 88 years

This right here

slowdown there buddy … get a grip

you are right … war is on the table.

but there are many types of war.
Tsun Su : "all wars are won and lost before they are fought"

war is going on right now, in some places hot war. So how will you fight. I think there are many things you can do and need to do before arms are taken up. And to just get this out of the way. How will you determine whose on your side or not, skin tone and nose structure? Thats a very shallow cause, hardly something to go to war over (although I understand the reasoning).

First get yourself together and become active in one of the institutions you mentioned military , politics, diplomacy

Find friends in these areans and grow a foundation from it that seeps into the other relms.

Learn to not waste energy. All your points are about other people and not about self improvement. Keeping the enemy out and at bay is important but you life/society should be more than that. Remember there is an "after war" to win as well.

You seem to have a plan that could work but why would someone follow the plan? You are lacking a clear motive. A general motive I see but the vagueness will have you starting a war that youll lose mid way just like germany in ww2.

You speak of fascism very broadly, but its implementations are many things that are not wanted. You want a fascists gov to power a war machine. Ill take a democratic gov with the machinations of capitalism to gun you down and starve our your resources.

You are being very one dimensional, I cannot get behind the ideas of a novice.

You dont have to detail the whys … we all know about progressivism, liberalism , and the leeches of the world. The how should be a little more modern. You speak as if you dont realize that your plan was tried before and it failed. Remember ww2 mate?

Heres a discussion on war, if you were germany in ww2 what would you do different, or would you go to war at all but instead just focus on your borders?

Holy fuck how did find this place??
Lurk for two years before posting, you abomination.

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If the situation is hopeless then the jews have won and the White race is doomed. I don't believe that.

Yet the System is the thing that maintains the power of the jew.

You need to actually study the Bolshevik revolution before you go using it as an example of a "people's revolution". They would not have succeeded without the military switching sides. Also, the Bolsheviks didn't overthrow the Tsar. Generals did.
Go look it up.
The idea that the Russian revolution was a spontaneous uprising of "muh peepol" is communist propaganda. Stop peddling communist propaganda and go look up what actually happened.

Once again, I'm still awaiting an example of a revolution that succeeded to any degree without elements from within the military at least sympathetic to the cause.

It's not magic or miraculous. It's just practical politics.

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Systems are not conquered from without until they are brought down from within.
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Why bother lurking this board is a joke?

This is exactly the answer I give everytime someone asks where all the pollacks from 2014 went. Now we just shitpost here.

We could still use it to organize meetups, but everyone is too scared of Bob and Hank from Flowers By Irene; even when they're doing nothing wrong and already under extra scrutiny just for posting here…

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