Social Credit System

The Chinese Social Credit System, despite being Orwellian, would be very useful to a society - especially ones with large amounts of minorities. It is inherently pro-white and I will explain my point of view.

Social Credit is tied to behavior and impulse control. Our FICO Credit Scores behave in much the same way: it correlates to good behavior - the better your score, the more likely you are to not only be WHITE, but have high IQ, higher education, better driving record, better at planning for the future, less likely to be a criminal and so on.

While the Chinese system explicitly rewards and penalizes behavior, the FICO score we have implicitly does, due to its correlations with what we typically associate with white behavior.

Under a Chinese Social Credit System, niggers, beaners, muds, mixed race abominations and so on would all be penalized and most whites would be rewarded (one reward is getting your dating profile promoted so you get more hits for better women).

Another correlation with credit is gender: men have better credit scores than women. This is an opportunity to crush feminism by using the score to give better opportunities for men.

Honestly, if I wanted a National Socialist society, I would use the Social Credit System as an abstract to reinforce good behavior, reward it, and punish the muds.

Links about the Chinese Social Credit Score.

businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-system-punishments-and-rewards-explained-2018-4

archive.is/SwXhf

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Other urls found in this thread:

creditcards.com/credit-card-news/race-age-gender-statistics.php
creditsesame.com/blog/credit/credit-score-men-vs-women/
anepigone.blogspot.com/2009/01/credit-scores-and-iq.html
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4260546/
marketwatch.com/story/why-the-safest-drivers-may-not-save-on-car-insurance-2013-12-12
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/13/your-credit-score-is-racist-heres-why
homepages.se.edu/cvonbergen/files/2013/11/DemographicVariables-and-Credit-Scores_An-Empirical-Study-of-a-Controversial-Selection-Tool.pdf
archive.is/oXSvc
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

The author is a jew, the book promotes transhumanism, but… Accelerando's protagonist invents a reputation based currency on social media accounts. He goes around giving multi-billion dollar ideas to CEO jews in exchange for reputation which he trades for favors.

Fitting the yellow jews would actually attempt to implement such a system.

WoUlD bE vErY uSeFuL tO sOcIeTy

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it will be disastrous, I hope we get to see it burn.

This. Although it depends upon the criteria of "good" and "bad" actions.
If done right, a social credit system would allow Whites to enforce tribal/village morality across a society numbering hundreds of millions.
In a tribe or village, everyone knows everyone, everything you do is known, you cannot escape the repercussions that your actions have on your reputation.
In modern society, that check is largely missing, no matter how badly you fuck over your friends/employer/employees/community, you can just move to a new city, change your name and start with a clean slate.
Properly administered social credit system would prevent that.
It could be fantastic for Whites, but the key component is missing.
A PRO-WHITE RACIALIST GOVERNMENT
In the hands of progressives it is just another tool of oppression.

I think it could be a force of good or evil; probably evil eventually and easily gamed by jews.

I always laugh at this logic. You think under socialism social media and mobile phones are impossible? Cafe and restaurants too? I mean i am all about hating commies just like you guys, but this meme doesn't do you any favors.

Technological advancement is not part of capitalism, but brand worship is.

Is this a raid by some leftyshits?
There are numerous threads in the catalog with articles from leftists blogs and MSM

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womyn should be competing for better men, not the other way around, simp

b-but how can i get muh neet gibs user?

You are gonna with assumptions that system would be allowed to be self optimized. When in the grim realty of affirmative action there can be jew hidden behind strings who would be manually putting 0.01 multiplier at teh front of white male score and 100 for negro female. So your white male needs to work 10000 times harder to get same credit.


Accelerando is meh. It has some cool ideas (googles stealing was top notch) but main driving force falls flat on its face on the first pages. Protagonist goes on rant about how government are outdated but what is his trade? Patenting? Lol. Patenting in epitome of government. Top of its functional pyramid, and not all governments can advance to the level when they can sustain patenting and intellectual rights. Without solid government base and hordes of soldiers on teh government pay to enforce, patents make no sense. "I made free use patent! Everyone can use this technology without pa….! …! Stop breaking my legs! What are you saying it is yours and i must pay you royalty? It is patented! My face! Police! Save me from thugs! What police, dear? Government is outdated!"

Bitter soy boy alert.

The future is looking fashy, and there's nothing your pozzed holes can do about it.

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This system, to work, would require whites to be in control of what is considered good or bad behaviour. If you get social credit deficit for not sucking a jewish cock it's obviously not pro-white or useful at all, but rather harmful.
You would not need this system in a National Socialist country, because there would be no muds left and women would have no "power" in the first place.

We already have it. It's called "free market economy". This is just commies, like the rebels they are, trying to imitate it in some kind of controllable leverage but not call it da ebul capitalism.
Of course it will be subverted, hacked and perverted like everything made with bad intentions.
And the more shackles the chinks put on their people, the more they'll want to shake them off when their economy eventually turns to shit.

This social capital system works wonders goy.

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Let's take a look at the FICO score. This is the score creditors use to determine your creditworthiness when giving out loans, mortgages, and credit cards.

It correlates to race:
creditcards.com/credit-card-news/race-age-gender-statistics.php

Men have better scores:
creditsesame.com/blog/credit/credit-score-men-vs-women/

Higher IQ correlates to better score:
anepigone.blogspot.com/2009/01/credit-scores-and-iq.html

Bad credit correlates to shit genes:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4260546/

Credit score correlates with behavior
marketwatch.com/story/why-the-safest-drivers-may-not-save-on-car-insurance-2013-12-12

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That's not how the Chinese system works, though. The behavior rewarded under their system are stereotypically white behaviors. Anti-social shit is highly correlated with niggers. With the Chinese system, Niggers won't even be allowed to buy houses, let alone buy houses near whites.

Stupidly overtly complex solution when you can just deport them, without infringing on peoples liberties.

Have you looked at the correlations with FICO credit scores and how white you are?

I posted some here

Good to Exceptional credit also correlates to educational achievement.

Niggers and spics and other minorities have, in general, shit credit scores. It correlates to their impulsive, primitive behavior.

Consider FICO credit scores used in the USA and credit scores used throughout the West. The reason white neighborhoods stay white these days is because of that score. Niggers can't get mortgages (or even rent) in overwhelmingly white neighborhoods, DESPITE gibs and dem programz and affirmative action shit.

Uh, that's what I said. Try reading the article, nigger.

They'll self-deport or confine themselves to ghettos permanently because the social credit system would prevent them from traveling, purchasing homes, renting, etc.

This
Before the days of anonymous masses, everyone was rated by their peers on how much of a fuckup they were.
Nowadays those people can blend in when they have to, while sticking to other degenerates similar to themselves for most of the time, where they fit in just fine.

Would be nice to have a system like that for a generation or two, just to create the lacking peer pressure that guides people in the right direction.
The scope should be limited tho, theres the danger of creating mindless drones who are all more or less the same, which works great for asian societies, but would stifle progress in aryans. The greatest people are often outliers, rebels in some way, if everyone is busy trying to be the bestest goy with the highest score, nobody will innovate anything.

That's assuming nogs remain in white countries.

Passive aggressive yet sadistic, we're not women. Moreover, mass survelience is cancer, no one wants that, no one wants some arbitrary social score that'll undoubtedly get corrupted with time. Or worse, it's real use won't ever come to light.

How about no, kike

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Still are.
Like happened all throughout recorded history?
Would be nice to have a system like that for a generation or two, just to create the lacking peer pressure that guides people in the right direction
Ah yes, more nanny state policies! Because you know what's best for everyone, right. Now define "right direction".

You make it seem like the Russian Napster mafia wasn't a legit threat. Maybe you didn't finish the book? I hate the fact it heavily promotes transhumanism, and that Stross is a kike, but the complete story was interesting and the universe was actually pretty cool.

Who wouldn't want digitized virtual clones exploring the galaxy from inside a virtual machine ship… galactic routers… and finally AINeko?

I get that. But we can’t outright kick niggers and muds out if they have citizenship. All this is, is an abstract, numerical representation of reputation. Niggers have bad reputation and rightfully so. Because even in a completely anti-racist system like credit score, niggers, spics, and muds have bad reputations. CLEARLY there is a correlation.

All the Social Credit System would do is reward you for being white and penalize niggers above and beyond how they are already penalized for being niggers.

Well let me ask you this: is credit score nanny state?

CREDIT SCORES ARE RACIST!

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/13/your-credit-score-is-racist-heres-why

Why not simply exterminate all the yids and shitskins instead of fucking around with a social credit system cribbed from ant-people? This thread is stupid and you deserve to be off by 1.

Yes and you can't topple a tryannchical regime because it's against the law, as an example. Deporting them is far more humane than putting them in squalors for whatever reason. Enjoy your nog revolt, then it'll get really bloody.
So you want to create reddit : the country where everyone is nonchalant, liked, and nonabrasive? Basically, a state sponsored karma system?
Again, goal is to get nonwhites out of our countries, since nonwhites are what you're fixiated on, simple deportions would be preferable.
Out of who's pockets? Clearly, it would also penalize you by being "antisocial" by spending your tax money unwisely, on things that won't include you, if you were to be "antisocial" (whatever that means). What would "social" whites get beyond what they're already paying for in tax money, for all the survelience? Absolutely nill, considering they'd be selling their freedom off.

You missed the point entirely and that makes you look like a retarded shill.

I don't care about how it works in China, this is how it would/has the potential be implemented here. Poorly. The possible downsides severely outweigh any positives.

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Like i said, it should be a limited scope, but include common sense avoidable fuckups that arent and shouldnt be criminalised.
Homosexuality, prostitution, exessive public intoxication, minor crimes, etc

It should be less about collecting points, but about avoiding deductions trough carelessness and rampant degeneracy.
We might not agree about whats best for everyone, but its easy enough to agree on some basic things that everyone should avoid and nobody needs.

The reason marxism needs to be global is because once you have something to compare it to it's inadequacies become undeniable.

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Well are FICO credit scores retarded Reddit karma systems?

homepages.se.edu/cvonbergen/files/2013/11/DemographicVariables-and-Credit-Scores_An-Empirical-Study-of-a-Controversial-Selection-Tool.pdf

You're trying too hard to fit in, whatever agency you're from. No, we won't settle on some sort of "durr penalize niggers" NSA type bullshit.

So on top of jail time, people get even more punishment. No thanks, now imagine doing something really criminal where no one will hire you and now you're "penalized" too. This isn't some sort of "all wonder" to solve all societies ills, it's to punish people more without fixing anything.
Degeneracy is synonymous with carelessness, why should they care further, if they don't at all? Why shouldn't I care I'll be looked at to make sure I'm not smoking meth or prostituting myself?

Those bad points that you listed are already implicit in the FICO credit score system (although Explicit in the Chinese Social Credit system)

Disgusting

That's to prevent a system from crashing.

All of this "gamification" shit is kiked, and OP is a commie loving faggot.

It's also to prevent niggers from getting jobs that should go to whites and prevents them from living in white neighborhoods.

Haha you can't handle it. Thinking you would have control over how a system like this is implemented is incredibly naive. Unless things change in our government, this kind of system would definitely be used to disadvantage whites. You are just having your own little circle jerk, lawyering away like an absolute kike.

Not impossible, but bound to fail spetacularly. See archive.is/oXSvc

Did you even read my post you heeb?
The idea is to cover things that are NOT criminalised, atleast not in a way that is obvious to your peers or leave a criminal record.
It adds a more significant punishment onto misdemeanors or minor crimes where you would just get off with paying a fine, nice way to equalise the poor and the rich.

As an eurofag i never understood how credit scores work, how do they implicitly cover degeneracy?

(you)

So its even worse, it penalizes noncriminal things to soothe your little fallable romantic mind.
How do you reward the rich then? How do you penalize them? The rich have the ability to move elsewhere where a system like this doesn't exist, the poor don't. A fine is already penalizing enough without having to spy on you, without wasting the states budget by rewarding "good" behaviour, while filling the budget at that. Most "antisocial" people are poor too (thereby having a greater effect), so fining works better than a faceless organisation giving you a karma score.

But things is their activate was extremely hampered by the law enforcement. See what precautions Russian Napster mafia needed to make so they are not get caught by the government LE thugs who have absolute advantage in the numbers and firepower. Eventually mafia was defeated in the literal stand off with SWAT. Primal stone age old conflict resolution when two groups of armed apes show off each other their strength. So innovative. Much transhumanism. Who is paying SWAT and doesn't lets it run wild again? In absence of teh state who are gonna put that pressure on napster and other thugs?
This is typical liberal thing, to live in safe bubble of high trust civilized cosity and don't acknowledge forces that stand on borders of such society and protect it. "this is oppression!" Remove this oppression and roving bands of niggers will strip liberal naked of his possessions.

Yeah are know that government are essentially racket too and i am aware of possibility of its corruption too but West government evolved into civilized from of racket who allow to live and prosper under them (give or take).

It penalizes rampant degeneracy that literally nobody needs and only if its public.
no thats just stupid,
I guess you never got a ticket, people dont give a fuck beyond being angry at the cop who dished it out. Especially the kind of lowlifes you want to affect with a system like this care much more about their social standing than their wallet. Thats why they used to be pilloried.
again no, doesnt represent reality.

Someone's gonna have to look at the footage anyway, having the ability to track you down. No thanks.
k rich jews in Soviet Union faked an antisemitic epidemic to flee a skinning ship, they'll find a way out if they want to.
Again, you want to punish people, not correct them. No. We love our people and our race, we want to see them get better not soothe our own little autistic minds.
Yes poor people don't pay fines, I forgot.

Same guy as before btw dynamic IP changes ever so often.

Antisemitic epidemic in USSR was not fake but real after soviet arab pets lost in the Six-Day War. Soviets simply cannot deal with their butthurt (this continues today too). Though ironically punishment for jews (pressuring them to leave) was pipe dream of ordinary soviet citizens, flee from their state gulag. Dat privilege of having national state.

The biggest fatal flaw in any scoring system is that it'll be arbitrary enforced or gamed in favor of those who decide the scoring or those who understand the system well enough. All it takes is a few (((subversives))) cunning enough to gain excellent scores from the system to sneak into top positions and it'll become their tool. Kind of defeats the purpose of using it for any "well intended" means if there's a small risk of that happening.

CREDIT IS THE MONEY OF SLAVES
Fuck (((FICO))) and fuck you too, nigger. You will gnash and wail as your evil empire is taken from you, everything will be taken and nothing will be given.

t. Mr. Goldberg

consider yourself reported

Also thing is you can't ahve any proper national oversight over algorithms and scoring system. becusae this full invasion in the privacy, checking that algorithms properly process raw data means that you need to look at raw data aka operators maintaining these system can look inside eveeroens bedroom. These means small group chosen approved operators and this is inherently creates manipulation about their work.

Renumber hearing about Trumps phone tapping? "Can't answer this question, can't answer that" "Trump is a bad goy but i can't tell you how do find that fro teh record i can tel muh Russians". Such system would be the same.

Thanks for your wisdom, spastic.

This system can only have proper oversight if concept of privacy will be fully abandoned and every citizen would get full access to uncensored raw surveillance data. Everyone can spy on everyone. This would be interesting way to build society: no secrets, no lies, everyone can see others fucking porn star prostitutes. But i don't see people accepting this way of doing things and also

The problem of dissolving privacy entirely is that it invites stagnation of a civilization. Because it would make people seek out risk-adverse behavior or be too embroiled into the trivial details of a person's life to defy expectations and result in paradigm shifts. You already see this problem happening just by a loss of privacy to specific parties, as well as how non-anonymous communities are far more restricted in their speech (even if the moderators of said communities are lax). The only way around that issue is to anonymize all such information so while it's all out there, you can't really be sure who it's talking about unless you intimately know the person's life story already.

To put it another way, the way an imageboard works already demonstrates such a concept with anonymity subjectively applied based on what a person chooses to share. The real question is, how would a civilization look like if every issue had to be resolved by using imageboards? Probably better than mainstream shit as it now probably.

Consider yourself swinging from lamppost you filthy kike. The day approaches and it will be the most glorious day in human history.

Why should Whites ever put themselves in chains alongside the lesser races in the off-chance it will finally tame them?
We have 30 million+ illegal beaners – and God only knows how many chinks – to attest to their respect for the White man's system of justice and law.

Imagine my surprise…

It's glaringly obvious, and the mental gymnastics they use to avoid admitting shit genes are a major factor is impressive, if not disgusting.
This is the closest they could bring themselves:
I would add that it's interesting to imagine the implications and potential ramifications if they ever do come out.

They've already subverted social media to identify and destroy the lives of individuals who hold opposing (read: nonconforming) political viewpoints.
This would be no different, except in the scale of destructive power it would afford.

OP is my marxist jew poli-sci professor Mr. Hellerman. I know because I send him an email on this very subject yesterday.