Reddit just buried a story about Chinese genocode

reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/8kipdq/china_might_be_holding_up_to_1_million_muslims_in/

New story, shitload of upvotes, just disappeared off the page. I wouldn't have noticed but on the mobile site it kicked me out while I was in the middle of the comment. You can still reach it with a direct link but it'll probably die soon with the shadowban.

I can deal with reddit being liberal cucks, but Chinese shilling to lampshade genocide is a new level.

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Why do the Asians get to do all the genocide of annoying muslims these days? When's it going to be our turn again?

They do that about all shitskin on shitskin violence because only whitey can be racis and shieeet.

Also


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Honestly? When we take control of the (((government))).

We shouldn't be at war with Religion of Cuck™ though. Christians and Muslims are both of the book and we both hate the Jews.

I understand that there are some psychotic Muslims out that need killed, but as far as I'm concerned the real problem is this 1000 year old profit-driven holy war meme.

Check the catalogue.

Existing thread.

apnews.com/6e151296fb194f85ba69a8babd972e4b/Chinese-mass-indoctrination-camps-evoke-Cultural-Revolution
archive.fo/wH2DW

This is a different story that got buried. /r/worldnews can't stop the fact that a story got big yesterday so they're making damn sure it doesn't happen again.

For those of you who have never been on Reddit, I encourage you to take a look and try posting there for a few hours to see why the website is so hated. I didn't really understand how much of a forced echo chamber it was until I tried posting in a very specialized board on Reddit over the past week or so; really opened my eyes as to the forced ideological conformity a lot of numales are experiencing on a day to day basis. And it's not even necessarily by the mods, it's an unsettling 1984-esque consensus that most don't sincerely believe in, yet almost everyone takes part in enforcing it.

They call the ruleset you're supposed to self-police so as not to fall foul of wrongthink "Redditquette".

So for example, in polite White society you don't interrupt someone who is speaking, you don't pick your nose, you leave the room if you need to break wind, you pass the port to the left etc. This is etiquette.
On Reddit you don't criticize anything a woman or a non-White does. You qualify any opinion you have on anything a non-White, non-Male, non-Hetero does, by beating yourself and your right to comment over the head.
Distilled down, the underlying rule is quite simple.

There are a few reasons Reddit wants to bury China's genocide of Muslim Uyghurs.

1. The villains aren't White.

2. The Uyghurs are racially close to Whites.

3. The Han Chinese are committing this genocide by cultural deracination and mass immigration. Sound familiar?

If the mainstream were to ever admit the genocides of the Uyghurs or Tibetans then it might have to admit the genocides of the Palestinians or Whites. That's a bad day for some bad people.

Let them die.

Based China intact, I hope they annexed and cleanse Indonesia.

All of the news subreddits are controlledby jew mods. Not even joking.

No one cares go back.

Chinese preventing Muslims from destroying their race is a bad thing?

please yes

Fuck off, Rabbi.

Chinese tradition and statecraft is many many thousands of years old.
By comparison, Religion of Cuck™ was invented last week.

The Chinese can produce stable society of billions of people.
Muslims are always at each otehrs throat. There isnt a period in Religion of Cuck™ic history where there wasnt a war between Religion of Cuck™ and someone else.

If the Chinese tried to run their country like their muslim population want them to, it would collapse in to violence within days.

Found the jew.

Your logic is astounding.

Christianity and pissllam are kike made you nigger.

kys

gking.harvard.edu/50c


The Chinese government has long been suspected of hiring as many as 2,000,000 people to surreptitiously insert huge numbers of pseudonymous and other deceptive writings into the stream of real social media posts, as if they were the genuine opinions of ordinary people. Many academics, and most journalists and activists, claim that these so-called ``50c party posts vociferously argue for the government's side in political and policy debates. As we show, this is also true of the vast majority of posts openly accused on social media of being 50c. Yet, almost no systematic empirical evidence exists for this claim, or, more importantly, for the Chinese regime's strategic objective in pursuing this activity. In the first large scale empirical analysis of this operation, we show how to identify the secretive authors of these posts, the posts written by them, and their content. We estimate that the government fabricates and posts about 448 million social media comments a year. In contrast to prior claims, we show that the Chinese regime's strategy is to avoid arguing with skeptics of the party and the government, and to not even discuss controversial issues. We show that the goal of this massive secretive operation is instead to distract the public and change the subject, as most of the these posts involve cheerleading for China, the revolutionary history of the Communist Party, or other symbols of the regime. We discuss how these results fit with what is known about the Chinese censorship program, and suggest how they may change our broader theoretical understanding of ``common knowledge and information control in authoritarian regimes.

This paper is related to our articles in Science, “Reverse-Engineering Censorship In China: Randomized Experimentation And Participant Observation”, and the American Political Science Review, “How Censorship In China Allows Government Criticism But Silences Collective Expression”.
See also: Information Control by Authoritarian Governments

pdf on site

No wonder why leftypol praises China constantly.

Last time I've seen this image, those guys were Kalasi Afghans.

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Not even close. They're half-chink Turks.

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Yeah, but much like certain Palestinians, I'm sure it's limited to select bloodlines. Though, it doesn't mean that they're worthy of being compared to us of course.

Uyghurs are Mongol/Turks, Turko-Mongols
Not even close to be white.
There used to be Aryan living in Central-Asia were now the Uyghurs live, until the Mongols massacred them.

OP is a faggot, turk and roach, posting a misleading photo

Bingo

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Chinks are a mongoloid race as well

Some places are alright on reddit. Not because they are aware or such, but because another front on this war against the yids and shitskinns can be waged subtly there. I wouldn't suggest anyone get infused into that cancer culture of signalling shit many parts have, but you as user, can jump in and drop some things into the discussion with a finesse that should be second nature to you after a few years on the chans. HFY is at its heart white people vs the universe written by a bunch of soft belly children indoctrinated by liberal education, the right pushes, the right points delivered on their posts and ideas, and one redpill after another starts to take hold. And the lovely thing about redpills, once you take it, its there forever, you can never forget it. Such opens the path to another, and another, and perhaps it will take them years, but each person whom took it will eventually become us at some level.

This is how this war is currently being fought user. I am user, I don't need an fucking echo chamber. I live in an world of shit and piss, and waded into the dregs of our society online to find some humor in the abyss I was born. Now, I step into the lands of the normalfags and wreck their shit with the lessons learned on the chans and the fire Zig Forums has stoked in my heart. I can stride into the valley of the shadow of death, and call em all weak cuck faggots, unabashed in my own strength and mission. You should be finding your own way to strike back at this system user, each of us are different, each of us have strengths and powers others do not, and each of us are user. Final boss. Stop waiting for them to come to us, bring the fight to them in their safe places.

These little redpills op points out, its what cements the truths we lay at the normalfags feet. The fools can see in real time, with their own eyes the truth. It takes time for many, but our enemies give us the ammo needed to crush their own armies, blinded by hubris and greed. Embrace it. OP's shit, while vile, is OUR victory, not our enemies. It just takes will to drive yourself to action. Each step on the road to victory is one more step forward, if you wait for the victory to become easy and come to you, you wait forever and be subsumed under the rising tide of shitskinns and kike attacks. Op is not an faggot in this instance.

You apparently are. Get gud.

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This isn't about mudslimes, user. This is communism enforcing communism. These commie chinks would do the exact same treatment to us, or any other group that doesn't tow the party line.
STRUGGLE SESSIONS!
They are doing an intensive systemic version of struggle sessions. The chinks would make this mandatory at every university in the country if given the opportunity, and already are trying through "critique". Pic related.

independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-re-education-muslims-ramadan-xinjiang-eat-pork-alcohol-communist-xi-jinping-a8357966.html
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wew.

Jews are "of the book" too, it says so in the Durkadurkoran. Ergo, you should get off Zig Forums and get back to sucking off a Jew.

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The Uyghurs, like most central Asians, are the product of Mongol horse nomads conquering and raping a white population. They are Moslems and are getting what they deserve.

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Guys, you need to recognize that Muslims are no better than Jews. Just like Jews want to dominate and control the goyim, the Muslims want to dominate and control the dhimmi.

It's important to criticize the Jews. But, in our criticism of Jews we should not be swaying to the tribe of Muslims.

Muslims want the same things as Jews. They are just a less successful competing faction.

Everyone not a shill should already understand this

/r/The_Donald did this.

I barely post on here anymore because of this. I'm wondering if it's me who changed or Zig Forums

Around 70% of Uyghur paternal lineages are R1a and R1b (Indo-european), even if they are more chink than european autosomally. So if anything, It's more like they assimilated the Scythians

Zig Forums has definitely changed. We've had a lot of invading niggers.
sage because OP IS A FAGGOT and needs to lean to post a proper OP before even considering bringing crap from leddit or half.

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Imkikey and Zig Forums

Muzz, Turk descendant of Mongol rapegangs, they're all just another sub-type of Jew. Which means IDGAF who gasses them as long as someone's doing the gassing. Hopefully after the Chinks purge their Muzz, then someone will purge all billion of them too.

They're being enslaved by communist chinks so they can be used against us. Further, Aryan populations still exist in Khotan and face the same treatment. The communists do not wish to stop there, they wish to do this to the entire fucking world, for their kike masters.

The problem is that anti-Religion of Cuck™ is super popular among normalfag conservatives. A lot of people who come to Zig Forums were once that type of conservative, so it just carries over. You also have Zig Forums which will attack everything, even itself. I just can't see any genuine National Socialist being okay with communists - installed by the jews - genociding people in their homeland.

My use of the board has slowed down quite a bit because of the influx of hobbyists. /polk/ was nice, but it's more interested in gardening than discussing anything else. It's also pretty dead now. Endchan is active, and it's certainly much closer to the high IQ pre-election 8/pol/, however, they just wrap their brains around the concept of a mass-movement. They foam at the mouth at the mere mention of Trump; it's like they can't see the value in tens of millions of White people all uniting around a pseudo-nationalistic message. I'm pretty sure the jews realized what was up after the election. They've attacked pretty much every right-wing space on the internet there is; even neoconservative shit like reddit and jewtube. Zig Forums's recent change in moderation has improved from the previous mods, but they're kind of trigger happy, and don't really help facilitate good discussion; they also don't allow any fun, so Zig Forums is pretty much only useful for news these days.

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Eat shit, nigger the kikebook was merely transkated to greek first to get the biggest audience at the time for it.
Christcucks are pathetic.

Since the Jesus condemns pedophiles to death by drowning, muslims and jews will be sharing a bunk in Davey Jones´ locker

Begone roach.

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Lurk moar, faggots. When an enemy is making a mistake, you take advantage of it. The commies are putting the mudslimes in camps. This is fantastic news because it shows the struggle sessions of communist china in the news, and can be used to create strife among commies and SJW, turn the mudslime attacks against China, and turn this clusterfuck into a PR loss for all of our enemies at once. Just have to get israel involved and our job is done.

Not really. After the cultural revolution, they burnt their libraries and recreated their history…Again. Even the great wall's history is extremely questionable since it's all facing inwards towards china, still being built and Macro Polo makes no accounts of the great wall existing.

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To be fair, not everyone has been around as long as many of us, and not all faggot posters are shills. You can just be misguided and blind. All of us were at one point newfags. And as you careen down this rabbit hole of hell we live in with eyes now wide open, it can be rather disheartening and demoralizing when your only allies are an bunch of nameless autistic anime lovers and an pottery board of peace. Sometimes, its the little things which can make an man realize you don't bite off the entire meal in one sitting, but should instead just nibble bitesized chunks off until your hearty meal is complete. One foot in front of another, every day, can carry an man into and out of an epic journey beyond any reckoning.

The blackpill is seductive because sitting down and 'accepting' the overwhelming odds against you is rather easy, and most in our shit society have never had an true role model to show the way of strength and success in the face of overwhelming odds. It is OUR job to guide those coming up behind as as well as lead the charge on the tip of the spear against our foes. And heavy burden, but you have tens of thousands of years of conflict and conquest running in your veins, you can do it. I believe in you fuckers, even the most aspie of autistic ones.

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The modern Great Wall was built in the 1600s. The original one was made of dirt and probably falling apart after 1000 years of use.

Churchill said:

Nowadays, kikes who hold the purse strings of western governments have completely weaponized the Mozzies to increase the wealth of the (((deep state))) and its (((financiers))) by imposing both the M0slem threat and the ((("answer to the threat")))–massive state power with a crony capitalist military industrial complex and endless massive war externally killing the goyem mercenaries. The migrant flows into Europe are more of that. (Imposing Isl@m also weakens non-kike populations, so that's a side benefit for the kikes).

The anti-Isl@m trolling on this board and in America, though, is kike driven. The truth is, the ROOT of the problem must be fixed–kikes–then Religion of Cuck™ must be dealt with simply by forcible population transfer (no need to inter or try to fix rabid dogs who cannot be changed–just kick them out).

The west has, more or less, dealt with Isl@m for hundreds of years as an external problem. Isl@m is impossible to totally eradicate, so it's better just to kick them out and stop the external wars against them, which just inflames them. The kikes however–they actually must all be killed and not just forcibly transferred out.

I think China is making a mistake trying to brainwash these M0slems. Just kick them all out. Dump them all in the Middle East or M0slem parts of the Caucasus

newfags can't isla­m or muhamm­ad

kys you Religion of Cuck™ic nigger

Since Bifröst was broken, the Æsir and the Vanir, the Asyniur and the Vana, the Einherjer and the Valkyries rode downward to Vigard through the waters of Thund. Odin rode at the head of his Champions. His helmet was of gold and in his hand was his spear Gungnir. Thor and Tyr were in his company.

In Mirkvid, the Dark Forest, the Vanir stood against the host of Muspelheim. From the broken end of the Rainbow Bridge the riders came, all flashing and flaming, with fire before them and after them. Niörd was there with Skadi, his Giant wife, fierce in her war-dress; Freya was there also, and Frey had Gerda beside him as a battle-maiden. Terribly bright flashed Surtur's sword. No sword ever owned was as bright as his except the sword that Frey had given to Skirnir. Frey and Surtur fought; he perished, Frey perished in that battle, but he would not have perished if he had had in his hand his own magic sword.

And now, for the third time, Garm, the hound with blood upon his jaws, barked. He had broken loose on the world, and with fierce bounds he rushed toward Vigard Plain, where the Gods had assembled their powers. Loud barked Garm. The Eagle Hræsvelgur screamed on the edge of heaven. Then the skies were cloven, and the tree Ygdrassil was shaken in all its roots.

To the place where the Gods had drawn up their ranks came the ship of Jötunheim and the ship of Hel, came the riders of Muspelheim, and Garm, the hound with blood upon his jaws. And out of the sea that now surrounded the plain of Vigard the serpent Jörmungand came.
What said Odin to the Gods and to the Champions who surrounded him?
We will give our lives and let our world be destroyed, but we will battle so that these evil powers will not live after us.

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Agree. There's no willingness on the part of the 50+ generation to go to war, and Gen-X is a mixed bag. Older millennials are responsible to completely reset the prevailing thinking from our parents' attitudes to a warrior mentality among the younger millennials and Gen-Z. It is difficult to shift an entire cohort/age group to the opposite of what the (((boomer))) thinks and completely stamp out the (((boomer))) bullshit. The way to do it is raw numbers. Get enough younger millennials and gen-Z so hard right and bellicose that the momentum for war is unstoppable, even by the still-very-powerful (((boomer influence))). The groundwork must be laid targeting younger millennials and gen-z almost exclusively right now, and the effort requires tons of endurance and willingness to face seemingly insurmountable odds. The propaganda leading must produce a victory-or-death attitude among the target generations. This sounds dramatic, but it should be very clear by now how the other side operates (see how they are already targeting the youth with fake organic/astroturf "movements" to take gun rights)–they know the key is the youth. Our only chance to survive is to get the youth to completely, totally reject any boomer values and adopt a victory or death mentality for whites.

No that's not the point at all. The point here is that the Chinese Communist Party is willing to and very quick to genocide and wipe out malcontents and agitators in their country. I can't see a damned thing wrong with what they're doing to these people.
Let's be honest here. Who wouldn't jump at the opportunity to remove jews, muslims, commies and other assorted shitskins out of the west? That's right civnats wouldn't.

Interesting how Liberals doesn't seem to care about real Muslim persecution.

Brainwash into their own population so they can be bred into by Han.
The native inhabitants of the land that China has invaded to increase their economic and military power, to be used against our people.
You are either a complete idiot, or a traitor.

The wall you see in media is the impressive parts, long stretches was just a ditch or a low wall you could step over.

No, I'm in a country that is being saturated by chinks and I hate them just as much, if not more than niggers.
But I would most definitely jail, disappear, genocide and otherwise oppress certain demographics, i.e anyone not white lol, in my country.
Shut your democracy loving cunt mouth, I would prefer fascism.

Define it, newfag.
To be honest, I don't care what the political ideology is that ends the kikes and secures the future of my people. National Socialism will get us there, so that's what I go with, and maybe if we can manage to raise one full generation to think for themselves, then we won't need a federal government anymore and enter into a real society where we, as homogeneous societies, simply live the same way.
These Uguirs are IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY, they are occupied by the chinks. The fucking point is that we use this to attack communism in the media and direct jihadis at our enemies in china and away from europe. Then we blame kikes for all of it, until they take the bait and jump into the hot water on their own.

Now quit fucking bitching about shit you don't understand, and get to fucking work.

Huh. Chinks really are the kikes of the Orient.

Religion of Cuck™ is a fucking virus unleashed on the world by jews. Muslims do not belong anywhere just the same as commies. I do not give a flying fuck about what anyone does to fuck with jews, muslims, commies or any other group on my hit list. And the jews are always to blame.
Do you know what gets the west back on track? Having as many white children as possible. All this retarded sidetrack bullshit over a bunch of allah worshipping rape babies is pointless. I have had 4 white kids because I started impregnating a woman when she was 17. How many white kids do you have?
We secure a future for white women and children by impregnating white women not by taking up our time with retarded campaigns against the Chinese Communist Party.
My father told me a number of things as child: The Chinese are the Jews of Asia; Indonesians are cockroaches and two Wongs don't make a White lol.
Go and concentrate on having white kids asap and leave all this dumbfuckery behind you.

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user, I'm not arguing against removing kebob. I'm arguing that the communists are using this to their advantage and that they have opened themselves up to attack from all sides. Look at the fucking situation, stop placing yourself in the middle of it, and be objective.
Push the Jihadis to attack China
Push the SJW to insult China
Turn their golems against each other.
Then insert the jews for creating communism and spread any possible evidence of Israel being supportive of it, to bait them into comment. Regardless of how the kikes respond to this, they will lose face with either China (economic loss) or with the west, or just piss off more mudslimes and get suicide bombed a few extra times this month.

I wonder if the chinks plan to colonize Africa with millions of their own so in the future they can claim that the land belongs to them by right and shove the nigs away from their conquered lands (the nigs will obviuosly flee to europe, because pathological altruism).

it's not really "their" country. It's under their political control, but it's far western China where the Han never lived and they are currently taking over via mass immigration. It's the same kind of situation as Tibet.

To the victor go the spoils. I'm supposed to worry about abos now because they were here first?
Why the fuck are you faggots sperging out over this?

No, you fools. Pic related.

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Good! I'm glad you agree that a hispanic America and an arab/african UK are how things should be.

They haven't won shit yet so nice strawman but it still doesn't change the fact that this is the golden rule on this planet.
We took our prizes through blood and toil and we'll keep them that way. As a white man you should be ashamed of your post, fucking pussy, what do you want? A special consideration because our birth rates are low? Fuck off, I'm not a nigger that needs gibs.

Imagine if I conquered your land and promised you I would leave you alone so long as you pay tribute. Then, a hundreds years later I start treating you like Stalin treated those in gulags.

National socialism supports the right to ethnic self determination, not baseless conquest and genocide. The Han Chinese government, after assimilating all the similar ethnic groups in the East, is trying to cleanse the Tibetans and Uighurs and other groups that have long inhabited Western China.

I was just considering you foolish for thinking that "golden rule" is what people should live by even if it's the golden rule of the planet. One should add a clause which says "to the victor goes the spoils, as long as it's me." Meaning, if the spoils go to someone else, i.e. someone else is the victor, you'll do anything to get it back from them.
As an example, suppose country X conquers country Y. Then, technically, Y is owned by X (so, technically, they shouldn't rebel & just obey). But, no doubt, if you're from country X, you're not just going to take being under Y's rule and will fight back
Also, despite the first part of your post making sense, the last part makes little sense and sounds like a bunch of exclamations one would make when they disagree or don't understand something.

Most of Australia was empty land. The settlers homesteaded empty land and were later subject to raids by wandering nomadic Abos being petty thieves. Whites then retaliated to these raids. This is what most conflict between colonials and natives around the world involved.

I think it's a different kind of situation.

Fuck off OP. Reddit bullshit isn't thread worthy.

Jewgle is perpetuating a false narrative. Pro tip its not niggers creating these pages. (((They))) want you to believe it was kangs.

archive.li/Q6aTs

The Globalist Jews (in America that would be the democrats) are in a secret alliance with Communist China, in an effort to destroy the various cultures of this world and install a global communist regime with a mutt population and a Judeo-Chinese ruling class. That's why the (((tech-left))) and the (((mass media))) are deliberately censoring actual genocides of indigenous peoples by the CCP: stuff that liberal whites usually sympathize with, because they don't want their goyim pawns going against actual genocides instead chasing manufactured nonsense that just weakens the west.

Go kill yourself. The golden rule remains golden even if we get defeated.
The distinction is that we will never be defeated by anyone other than actual whites.

Oh, and by the way.
No.
You flat out claimed that the spics and shitskins won, you slimy worm.


To which you replied


A direct insinuation that they are winning and we losing.
QED, kill yourself, faggot.

Did his lesser known younger brother Micro Polo mention it at all?

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Reminder the Chinese genocide of tibet has many parallels with white genocide given its a genocide of reproduction and immigration where China forces Chinese people into Tibet and outnumbers them in their own country, leftists recognize this as a form of genocide most importantly but they refuse to accept the same line of thinking with white genocide. Just keep hammering it and we win.
Cant find my Tibetan genocide meme comparing it to white genocide directly, thats a shame.

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Its a meme just like this one but not this one.

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You know what's the hardest part about Uyghur genocide, mehmet? MY DICK

Get some reading comprehension you cunt, its being compared to white genocide not Mudrats. The only connection is that yet again its China genociding people, so talk about Tibet, not the mudrats.

No no no, the verse doesn't actually say to drown them - it says anyone who harms children would be better off drowning themselves than having God get ahold of them.

Matthew 18:6-8 - But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe unto the world because of such offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

I like that verse.

Uh, I'm fairly certain the Tocharians were mostly dead way before that place became Muslim.

(Jewsus stated on multiple occasions he doesn't give a fuck about non-Jews)

Semitic demon god impotently threatening us with HIS future. lel

No user, it was a very long conflict that erupted repeatedly for hundreds of years, since the fall of KHotan.

You got what you asked for, cunt. Also, what a waste of quads.

His disciples discussed the issue of allowing non-jews or not and them deciding that all of mankind is worthy of salvation is what made Christianity possible in the first place. Without that decision the whole thing would have ended as yet another irrelevant Jewish sect. Just saying.

But goy, muh religious d&c!

Just ignore the kike.

This is b8

Rhodesia and SA beg to differ (+Constantinople & such now being Turk city).

Yes. I did insinuate that because I don't believe that there is some value between winning and losing (it's a dichonomy). So, since I don't see how ayone could view Europeans as currently "winning," it must be losing.