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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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gommies.gom/XDDDD/
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Reminder this is no longer a right wing board and its open to everyone, like cuckchan. Reminder there is no more reporting this for wrongthing, its a political board with free speech. I hope it was worth a couple filters and not being able to bitch about margleblumpf. Now you can bitch about margleblumpf all you want with anti-racists who hate him just as much as you. Obvious improvement, circle jerk achieved.

I actually have a question regardning that. That quote come us again and again when you do political test. I know it's a communist quote but if you look at the quote i dont see why it it communist. I my mind it works with any political belief and especially with natsoc.

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l*terally don’t care, welcome aboard you dirty commie faggot.

Check'em.

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Rolling for uncle Adi

It's no a prescriptive quote. The idea of MArx was that if society were organized along communist lines via lower communism, society would assume a form where this idea would come natural to people.

Personally I think he was overly optimistic; I would be fine if we achieved lower communism and stayed there indefinitely, and everyone is made to contribute as much as they take out as measured in labour vouchers.

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I was banned for spamming the Siege meme and lemmings. Then I was refused on my appeal for an 88 year ban and no further appeals were allowed. The only reason I can talk right now is because this board was hijacked and I STILL support the former mods over this board for all political viewpoints trash, were the exact same as cuckchan now.

You can criticize Trump now, and people will, they will say hes "worse than Hitler" and you cant ban them. They will flood us because we cant maintain board quality, theres nothing now, anyone who wants to use the board - can - and that means all the hateful anti-whites who will flood the board with intentionally low quality garbage until nothing of value is left.
Pissing in an ocean of piss? We dont even have that going for us and look how it worked for cuckchan. This board is dead, its done. I dont have to be an actual commie, this is just a taste of what youre about to get. You people dont deserve execution, you deserve to suffer. You have promoted white genocide by undermining this board and it has been effective. You killed little white babies by taking this board away from white people.

I hope you like based Jews, based niggers, civic nationalism and faggotry because now there is absolutely no one to exert control over I.E and Spencer and Enoch etc. When you join a group, it will be bolshevik and pro-Jew, or you wont join a group. Thats the way of the future, thats how the majority is going to line up now. Behind the controlled opposition. I bet IE does great, I bet they lead the fight in Europe for Jews interests. Whos going to stop them? Not Zig Forums.

See, this is why nobody likes you commie fucks. 1000 year Reich of bust, no more exploitation of the working class, and no more economic slavery.

If you’re going to espouse an extreme ideology, why half ass it?

Dugin, go back to shilling Krautchan

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There is no bourgeoisie in lower communism, it just means that production and consumption are still measured in labour time. You've spend too much time arguing with straw men.

Hope you like blackpill demoralization posts, there will be a lot of those now.

Oh god, haha.

Take your meds, turkroach.

KC's dead, baby

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This thread is a false flag. There will be a lot of these for a while.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

When you undermine the only real opposition to white genocide you promote white genocide, simple concept but I wouldnt expect a faggot to understand it, considering youre also guilty of promoting white genocide.

This thread is a false flag, there will be a lot of real ones for the rest of time like on cuckchan, now. If you think lefty/pol/ isnt going to exploit this youre fucking braindead, this board is lefty/pol/ now, you cant ban them.

Impale yourself.

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Yes, getting a turk off Zig Forums is white genocide, I will remember this.

Now get out.

You can freely post this on facebook or any other place on the web. No one will ban you since facebook mods agree with you ideologically.
Waste of thread smh fam

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There's like 10 alternative KC's that sprouted up months ago.

cancer

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sage

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that’s unironicaly just socialism, and the bourjie cucks will still exist and exploit natural resources unless it’s instituted worldwide - which is hard to do since every instance of socialism has risen to power via a politician that has promoted it as securing national interests(ie nationalism which is against the doctrines of true communism)

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No wonder commies are considered equally to degeneracy as furries. Oh wait.

The previous moderation was so bad, that I really don't care. As long as I have a place where I can call a spade a nigger, I'm quite happy. Leftypol faggots are notoriously sensitive and won't be spending a lot of time on a board that is constantly triggering them. There is a self-moderating and self-filtering aspect you're not considering. But in the short term, yeah people are going to shit on the board as hard as they can. Brace yourselves.

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OP, you and I could hang ITT and argue back and forth forever. You'll never convince me that your ideology is anything less than retarded and I'll never convince you of the error of your ways. At the end of the day, the only way for us to know who is right is to go and do the experiment.

Fortunately for us, people have already done the socialist experiment. They've done it over and over and over again. At one point in the mid 20th century, something like 2/3rds of the world lived under socialist regimes. The experiment has been done and in every single case, without exception, the experimenters got the same result: Socialism. Doesn't. Work.

Not only does it not work, socialist economic and social engineering experiments literally lead to the death of more than 100 million people in the 20th century.

OP, how many more times do we have to do this experiment before you finally accept the result? How many more countries do we have to ruin? One more? Ten? Will twenty more ruined countries make you finally accept that socialism doesn't work? Thirty?

Einstein once famously said that "insanity" is when you do the same experiment over and over again and expect to get different results. I submit to the board that the socialists are literally insane.

Zero shame that you just destroyed literally the only place on the internet where National Socialists could make an impact. Reminder traitors before enemies isnt just a meme.

Its copypasta from cuckchan, I hope you like this thread because its going to be around a lot from now on.

I don't need to pretend, roach kike.

Now get out.

I know, because you will be spamming it.

Lel

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Big talk from retards who censored ethnonationalism.

your gay

The previous moderation were gods who banned all the cancer you didnt have to put up with. If you had a problem with the moderation, cuckchan was always open for you. Now you have destroyed this place to turn it into cuckchan too. Youre the worst form of scum, youre the exact same as the people who ruined cuckchan Zig Forums. Thats what you did.

So you acknowledge of this thread being nothing but a copy paste cuck-chan tier shitpost which you lie to yourself of feeling good?
Well aren't you some special big boy.

Except they banned anyone who posted remotely close to anything able to be perceived as civic nationalist, and now they dont.

Jesus christ. Do you guys not even see any historic documents on Communism? EVERY time it has been tried, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME the society that has it goes to complete shit. The most famous one was Russia with bread lines and gulags. If I read your post right you want everyone to be a robot. No grand desires, no striving for better because its all "For the greater good" meaning that anything I do is just added to a collective and shared. Nothing is mine, nothing is yours. We dont get to elect any officials, have zero say in how anything in upper management is ran and if we do we are told to get back in line.

Fuck off.

Maybe you should leave

How can the bourgeoisie exist when all production is managed communally? Private ownership of the means of production is already abolished even under lower communism / socialism.

Socialism does work. The Soviet Union managed to achieve the greatest industrial growth in human history in the Stalin-era. The collapse of the Soviet Union was not an issue of political economy, but of a lack of feedback and input between the people and the managerial elite.

Its day 1 and youre clearly a larper, especially if you dont realize whats about to happen. Bronyposting = totally fine.

Jewish psyop. National Socialism wasn't even allowed to exist with Imkikey around to keep people in line, or god forbid they might have begun to question Donald Trump.

He was an ANTIFA agent here to subvert discussion and wipe out true followers of Hitler. So fuck off.

Damn, it’s just imkike trying to make us miss his moderation. I was looking forward to debating commies and calling Stalin a traitor to his race. Whatever, wallow in your own filth you dumb turk

No, that's capitalism.

reminder that by not supporting marxist-leninism you are inadvertently consenting to old uncle green fucking you from behind daily while he steals from you and gives some of it back calling it wages and a privilege for you to be fucked

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The people who tried to destroy the board over a wordfilter deserved to be banned, it was the same logic as behind bumping the IE thread over and over so that Jew lovers would expose themselves. Youre cancer, the word is made for you.

Enough BS.

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No, they didn't. They in fact can't ban them all.

Here's a (you), I hope this fills your daily attention seeking autism.

They’ll just fuck off to countries where socialism hasn’t taken root. Nothing short of global revolution will end the bourjie reign, and global socialism is nearly impossible to implement, your best hope is NazBol because it creates a more insular society.

So the whole board deserves to banned.

Now off yourself.

Im here to point out its your fault before it actually happens, now Im going to leave, I have no intention of posting on cuckchan.

Go out and get pickaxes shoved into your head

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What are checks and balances and voting? The entire US government is set up to where everyone can do something about the other part of the cog. In Communism you have 1 top group and thats it. The only way you can change leadership is through civil war. That is the only possible way.

Youre brony cancer, the filter exposed you. Working as intended, you should be banned.

Wow, I just see imkikey post.

This thread and many other are spammed by none other than him.

He wants everyone to bring him back lol

The whole board should be banned because we are Zig Forumsack, we say nigger here.

Honestly, you're in the wrong place. Good luck finding a new safe space, user.

nice try

Sure you're going to leave. As if your obsession allows you not to embarrass yourself this time for sure.

LOL

You can say nigger all you want now but dont expect anyone to talk to you about fighting white genocide, its the great replacement now, white genocide is an anti-semites term.

Nigger white genocide ethno nationalism.

Now fuck off turk nigger.

It's not c>>11625660

The Soviet Union killed 60 million people. In 1989 at the time that the wall fell, 10% of Russians were slaves in gulags. Lenin and Stalin built three quarter of a million slave labor camps. If you visited two a day, it would literally take more than 1,000 years to visit them all. This is the "utopia" you are defending.

And that stuff about economic growth in the soviet union is bullshit. The USSR literally had famines through the 1930s and used slave labour to rebuild after the war. When the wall came down in 1989, the USSR was a third world shit-hole. Even today, 20 years later, the economies of the eastern European countries still haven't recovered from the damage dealt by "the greatest industrial growth in human history".

Face it, the most successful leader in the so - called "Communist" realm was Stalin, and he was at one point on good terms with Hitler before being betrayed easily due to naivete of his true intentions and denial of intel reports.

Successes of Marxism are nothing compared to National Socialism. Stalin wasn't even pure Marxist-Leninist but rather what would now be called third positionist, he outlawed abortions and restored traditional values to the Soviet Union.

Hitler accomplished so much without wiping out millions of his own race. Stalin ordered the deaths of millions in order to collectivize the farms and create industry through blood sacrifice, mostly for nothing.


Oh and Stalin probably got poisoned by his kike doctor because he was planning a real Holocaust in the USSR.

Capital flight is a big problem, and one of the things that seems to prevent a gradual move towards socialism. Global capital has a way of disciplining people who step out of line. The thing is that very few societies are in a position to ignore the world market wholesale, so I'm not sure an isolationist approach will work for anyone that isn't Russia or the US. Something along the lines of the China model seems more promissing, where finance and strategic industry is kept in hand, and industrial policy is used to beat the global bourgeoisie at their own game. But the results on that experiment are not in yet.

That has historically been a problem. Though there are other ways of getting a responsive government. Here's recommended reading on how the government of China is highly responsive to popular will without being a bourgeois democracy:
americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/02/surprise-authoritarian-resilience-china/

>wiped away millions of (((Ukrainians))) who were hoarding food from the rest of Russia

not only did he not kill his own race, but he made sure to wipe out the threats to it

Hey guys, let's seize the means of production.

Okay.

We have seized the means of production now.

So, how do we operate this machine?

I don't know, our books are so old that they only feature hammers and sickles.

Guess we will starve now.

Yes.

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The various races will never be equal. Your ideology is crucially flawed because it strives for complete equality, which is not possible in an ethnically "diverse" society because of genetic differences.

Niggers have an average I.Q. in the 80s. Whites mostly within 3 points of 100.

Striving for equality is pointless

communism was never based on equality, it was based on the notion that your boss is a blood sucking leach who produces nothing yet claims he deserves his own wages

Thats true. Basically Russia is still a third world country. If you live in Moscow and I mean live IN moscow not in the outskirts you will be living in probably one of the only first world parts of the country. Anything outside of that is just bad. They have no real plumbing or other things first world countries take together. They have villages still.

Communism does not support growth it stagnates it. Capitalism is probably the best bet. Its not the greatest but it makes people get the fuck off of their ass. In capitalistic countries people say "Hey, if im the first person to go into this city and put plumbing down, ill make tons of money" thus when they do it they increase the entire worth of that city 1000x. You will always have someone wanting to come in and improve the city by offering a need that the city does not have until they run out. There will always be someone who wants to sell power, electrical, plumbing, carpentry, construction, tools, ect until the city is then making a surpus of it. Capitalism always ends up with ensuring basic needs are covered because those are grand sellers. Everyone needs them, everyone is buying. One guy cant monopolize because 100 more people will come in to try to do the same thing, thus creating pricing wars, dropping the price further.

Uhh.
Where does the sickle go?

You try it, go.

No, you go first.

Come on we need to do this, man, we seized it and everything.

But this is extreme high voltage.

Guess we starve now?

Yes.

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Seize the means of Starvation.

damn, imagine being on this level of larp and self-importance

What's wrong with Ukrainians anyway? They aren't Jewish and don't possess subversive traits. The USSR was an artificial state with inherent ethnic conflicts, like the Russian Empire of old. No way around this without huge population transfers or genocide, in both cases a waste of effort because USSR ended up collapsing anyway with the revisionists, starting in the late 1950s after Stalin died because he was almost universally despised for his actions.

He wasn't.

What a load of Bullshit. The only thing Hitler ever did was chase 60 million white people into an early grave, with nothing to show for it. As to famine in the Soviet Union, that was a one time problem, which was solved after collectivization. The Russian empire had had periodic famines before (protip: food shortages are the proximate cause of the Russian Revolution), so it would be imbecilic to suddenly blame communism when in the same place another famine occurs.

Piss of, Kermit. I'll quote Marx at length:
But one man is superior to another physically, or mentally, and supplies more labor in the same time, or can labor for a longer time; and labor, to serve as a measure, must be defined by its duration or intensity, otherwise it ceases to be a standard of measurement. This equal right is an unequal right for unequal labor. It recognizes no class differences, because everyone is only a worker like everyone else; but it tacitly recognizes unequal individual endowment, and thus productive capacity, as a natural privilege. It is, therefore, a right of inequality, in its content, like every right. Right, by its very nature, can consist only in the application of an equal standard; but unequal individuals (and they would not be different individuals if they were not unequal) are measurable only by an equal standard insofar as they are brought under an equal point of view, are taken from one definite side only – for instance, in the present case, are regarded only as workers and nothing more is seen in them, everything else being ignored. Further, one worker is married, another is not; one has more children than another, and so on and so forth. Thus, with an equal performance of labor, and hence an equal in the social consumption fund, one will in fact receive more than another, one will be richer than another, and so on. To avoid all these defects, right, instead of being equal, would have to be unequal.

I say lets have open discussion on political with commie faggots. The inherent truth of the eternal fascism on nature will become evident in the hearts of many of them. Many of the best national socialists out there are former lefties that now understand the error of their ways. Temember, even Sam Hyde voted for a Kenyan twice. Also don't let the faggots troll Zig Forums back into turk roach moderation. Can someone contact weev and ask him to mod? (In before Weev is a kike)

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Dude, I want to collide some particles.
How are we workers gonna pull that off?

I have like, three dollars, you?

Some gum and uhhh some weed candy.

Ah how much will this even be, we just need, lets see.
Summa sumarum.
Uhh, ah yes, we need ten billion workers to finance a large hadron collider.

But, bro, communism bro.
Ten billion workers would completely overstaff the particle collider.

But without so many we cannot build it.

I know! We will just let them loiter around and stuff.

Great idea, will they be able to starve, too?

Of course, you think they'll get food?

HAHAH.

HAHAHAHA.

Wait, bro, a LHC isn't everything, we also must seize all production steps of the intermediary parts.

It's cool we just use more workers who seize it all.

Brilliant. When do we start starving.

Dude, we've already starved last month, we are dead, lol.

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Do cummies not know that they will never convince us?

It does strive for complete equality, that's why no state, no money, no country.

It turns out that this is just unrealistic utopian bullshit, and the way Marx wanted to do it was a big state who can dethrone other state, and then will wither away somehow.

But weev is a faggot that continuously gets himself in big shit. Thats why he is in another country that wont extradite.

Has it ever been successful on a smaller scale?

daily reminder who got to space first

Nope, not even Catalonia.

The nazis.

Source on that claim?

Well, he is. And so are you.

all you had to do was let us say nigger

Trips of truth!

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My house was communist. I tried to make firecrackers and my mom seized the means of production. She then starved her own civilians and i was locked up and wasnt allowed to leave her communist state for the entire weekend.

Leave while you can, commie.

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You are just pulling that crap out of your ass. How about you try engaging with what Marxism is, in stead of what boomers and liberals want you to believe it is?

I don't give a shit. The truth of the matter stands for itself. Collectivization allowed for increased scale and mechanization, ending the food insecurity in the Soviet Union.

Ha, okay that was good. Capped.

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I argue with the commies on days to end, nigger, always get banned because they are pissed off.

And no, that's exactly what Marxism is.

Bakunin, Bukharin and Proudhon all proposed market, no-state model, Marx was a state dicksucker and wanted a state to end all states.

Fucking monarchism can do that, fuck off.

this is our board now son, just like in real life, you lost

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and no argument was made

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And so what is to be done with inferior races like niggers and various brown skinned subhumans?


Oh. Right, just support them with extra goodies in excess of what whites and Asians need because they are less capable. Drag down everyone towards the lowest common denominator. While Hitler knew the best answer was removal of these parasites.

so, instead of rachposting you will now do "le ebin communist posting"?
pathetic