How do I debate religious boomers on Israel?

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ridicule them when they say that or tell them that the jews there now are ashkenazi jews from khazaria (near ukraine) not the jews of the old testament, and the people in the old testament were israelites, jews are just one branch of the 12 sons of israel. and moralise them, ask them does that make it okay for them to genocide/ethnic cleanse Palestinians in an apartheid state?

or quote those horrible verses from the talmud, the ones where they say they killed jesus christ and tortured him in boiling excrement and semen (yes they really wrote this) and all the anti-christian verses, theres a reason why there use to be pictures of rabbis looking under a pigs hind leg in churches

THEY ALSO CALLED HIM THE SON OF A WHORE or something

You don't.
1) they are already voting for Trump so there is nothing to gain
2) they're going to die soon, focus on younger folks.

Not to be too edgy here, but I'd say your primary problem is assuming we're still in the "debate" stage. These people are your enemies and your children's [born or unborn] enemies.

This makes Southern Baptists confused.

The Jews are no longer God's people under a covenant with Him. Christ set the rules of, and as stated in the Amplified version- "ratified and established", the new covenant.

This guy gets it.

its easy, just point out in the bible that israel was supposed to be given to the jews via an act of god, and by jews gaining israel with the help of brits makes the whole ordeal something outside of god's plans. point out that there is no state or people greater than god, and this is all heresy on their end.

also show them videos of israelis being asked what is Jesus.

You could try to explain them the significance of 70 AD and the destruction of Jerusalem and what that mean for the Israeli people/nation at that time. To home in on that point, 70 AD was when the temple was destroyed. Without the temple there IS no nation of Israel. The temple was the seat, the very heart of the Jewish national, religious and cultural identity. Without the temple, there is no worship, no meeting place of God and there is no longer a priesthood either. Jews, as in the Jews of the Old Testament with the Law of Moses as their covenant between God, was utterly destroyed in 70 AD.
Also, tell them to read Hebrews, which fully explains that in Christ we have a better covenant, with a better high priest, with better promises as well. Honestly, a study of Hebrews shows that the Law of Moses is well and truly done away with. And, without that Law, there is no nation of Israel.

Sincerely, a Christian who is sick and tired of the Jews being touted as the "chosen ones"

You show them pic related proving (((modern israel))) is babylon, if that boomercuck actually believes the Bible. Then tell them that no man will sit upon the throne of David ever again so jews don't have authority to have that land as spoken in jeremiah 33:17
But the main way of breaking the cognitive dissonance is to start tearing down the idea that (((modern israel))) are biblical jews, but are in fact babylonians who have the golden pot/vessel of the ark of the covenant in jeremiah 27 and hebrews 9:4. Once you establish (((them))) as khazars the whole lie collapses on itself from the holohoax to all the wars to whatever else.

Show them Pastor Anderson, I've redpilled a lot of Christian friends and family on the kikes with his videos

can someone post the pictures of the jews laughing at goyim for their donations while the jordan river jesus baptism site?

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The conversion from SJW warrior to far right is more likely than converting someone with regular beliefs to the far right. I didn’t realize that until you said it, but it’s definitely true. I was thinking of SJWs as unfortunate messes that just needed to be fixed up–and they definitely do need a lot of fixing–but it’s very true that they are actually desirable in some ways and second only to traditional women who are already on the far right. It’s one of the hardest things imaginable to take someone entirely apathetic and try to find a way to make them care. So many people just don’t care at all about any of the issues; they’re the non-fanatics of the world that just aren’t passionate enough about anything to the point that it consumes their days and they dedicate their life to it, and those people are the hardest to reach.
Fanaticism though, that can be channeled to something else. If you can find their weak point, the topics that trigger their most intense emotions, and if you can target those points with the right arguments, you can take a belief about which they are extremely fanatical and switch it so that they are now going in the exact opposite direction with an even greater fanaticism.
An example of this is one of my closest friends who was a Zionist for years. He was completely convinced that the Jews were these wonderful chosen people, that Christians must always watch over Israel, etc. He essentially saw himself–and all Christians–as these dogs that should sit at the feet of the Jews, and so on. When I tried to tell him about the Jews, it was a struggle to even get him to listen to me without having him just become enraged and I seemed to gain no ground regardless of how many WWII-related Jewish lies and hoaxes that I could prove to him. None of it made him budge even an inch in his fanatical devotion for Israel.
But then I approached it from a different angle and decided to attack the Jews by using the Talmud, specifically Gittin 57a which is the description of Jesus being being tortured in boiling semen or excrement. Something clicked when I showed him that and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Jews were definitely referring to Jesus and that they still despise Jesus and look down on Christians as pathetic slaves that they’ve tricked. Just those few parts from the Talmud did more than nearly two entire years of me hounding him with everything I knew about the Jews and their involvement in WWII. Seeing how the Jews said these vile things about Jesus was what cracked open the dam and started the flood.
I quickly followed up with showing him what Martin Luther wrote in On the Jews and their Lies, and then some quotes from Popes throughout history and Orthodox church fathers. Then he reached the point that now when he read Matthew 23:33, John 8:44, and Revelation 2:9 it was as clear as day to him that Jesus was talking about the Jews when he spoke about the brood of vipers, the children of satan, and the synagogue of satan. Practically overnight all of that fanaticism did a flip and his fanatical devotion towards the Jews had now transformed into a fanatical hatred for them that was fueled by feelings of disgust, betrayal, and especially rage when he thought about how Protestant Christianity has essentially been hijacked by them.

The most rabid Zionist supporters are evangelicals, so the best way to counter them is to actually teach them the Bible. Most evangelicals are cults of personality with Bible flavoring and preach utter heresy–dual covenant theology and Zionism, for starters. The following are the best arguments for debating and trumping zionist evangelicals:

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
– Revelation 3:9

This points out how the Jews, as they call themselves, are not godly, and that their subversion was predicted.

Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
– Matthew 21:43
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
– Galatians 3:16
And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
– Galatians 3:29

This destroys any notion of a Jewish right to the land of Israel based on the Bible, as the chosen people are those that accept Christ as savior–not a particular race and certainly not those that rejected Him.

Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
– 1 John 2:23
There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
– Luke 13:28

This destroys the idea that the Jews are still the chosen people, because they have denied Christ and so have denied God.

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
– John 8:31-47

Taken together, I have taught these passages to several tea party and conservative groups to massively undermine their support of Israel. You will be attacked at first, but if you learn the passages well enough, you can stump them and change the whole group.

Jesus is the singular biggest enemy of the NWO since He claims to be the Jewish messiah. The end goal of the secular/pseudo-atheist/zionist plan is to bring forth a different messiah, at which point the false Jews who claim to be Biblical jews (but are not)–this synagogue of Satan–will try to install a global zionist tyranny with Jerusalem as the world capital. They hate nothing more than Christianity, since Christianity condemns their every deed. They have committed countless unspeakable atrocities–human experiments in the name of scientific progress, secret agencies going around murdering innocents, the planning and execution of genocides, wars waged to enrich themselves, killing millions of civilians in the process, turning healthy Christian societies into barbaric, sexually degenerate cesspools of immorality. The atrocities they have committed upon the world are beyond counting and their brutality and ruthlessness in obtaining their goals has no comparison anywhere. There has never been a more perfect global tyranny than that of today, where a small group of ‘elite’ global rulers control every single aspect of our lives while at the same time making everyone believe that this is freedom. Their NWO is 1984 on steroids. And Christianity has predicted all of this. The prophecies concerning these developments can be found in the New Testament–most importantly, in the book of Revelations where their entire mark of the beast plan to economically enslave the world has been laid out in detail. As is their ultimate fate–and although most of them are deceived and believe they are actually the good guys and that they can persevere and win a war against God–deep inside they know that they are walking on the broad path of damnation and that there is only one end to their journey: eternal torment in the fires of Hell.
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold your house is left unto you desolate.
– Matthew 23:37-8
Then answered all the people (Jews) and said, “His blood be on us and on our children”
– Matthew 27:25
But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you to councils, and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten.
– Mark 13:9
Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And I say the truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words, ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
– John 8:43-47
Stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost as your fathers did, so you do. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which showed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers.
– Acts 7:51-53
It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing you put it from you and judge yourself unworthy of everlasting life, we turn to the Gentiles.
– Acts 13:45-51
But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised: And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
– Galatians 2:3-5
For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision, whose mourns must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake… wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith: not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
– Titus 1:10-14
The Jews, who both killed the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and have persecuted us: and they please not God and are contrary to all men: forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
– 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16
Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews and are not but do lie; behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet…
– Revelation 3:9
So Jewish.

It's not hard to understand why. Reading the bible you'll find out Jews are a bunch of continual fuck ups that kept disobeying God over and over until he got sick of em so Christ came to make a new covenant with all who accept him instead of just a select group of desert inbreds.

also the god is cruel narrative that atheists and other retards keep spewing about is contradictory to what they are trying to preach. God is not evil, he is just continuously punishing the jew for being arrogant and making a scene with other races watching them.

Not only that, but the coming of Christ was a fulfillment of a promise made to Abraham and the only reason God put with the Hebrew people for so long is because of that promise.

Boomers don't see your as their peer
Boomers don't respect your opinion or knowledge
For these 2 reasons, you will never convince boomers of anything.
Also on debating; It's a waste of time for convincing a single person. Opening the conversation by presenting yourself as wrong to the other person will never get you anywhere. Being charismatic, having the persons trust, and and the appearance of being more knowledgeable on the subject, along with some emotional manipulation, will get your farther than all the facts in the world. You'll have a rough time forcibly changing someones opinion, but It's gravy when they ask for your enlightenment on [current issue]

What about Brother Nathanael?

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Jesus is their Messiah and King they've wanted for so long but they rejected God's gift and wonder why he'd punish them harder than ever for thousands of years. How do you fuck up that bad? Be a Jew, that's what.

Show them marching to zion by pastor steven anderson its pretty good for zionist christians to redpill them on the jews. My only critique of him is that he allows race mixing in his church other than that I found him to be decent compared to other preachers

Nathanael is ok but can come off as a putin shill at times. Plus you don't need to get the idea of "NOT ALL JEWS" shilled onto your fam cuz of one BASED kike that converted to Christianity. Can cause poisoning the well if you know what I mean

By not arguing with them. There's nothing to be had from engaging retards. Why the fuck do you care what some shithead thinks? You're wasting your time. Just spit in their face or punch them in the face and then spit on them. Way more fun.

Unironically tell them to read the Bible.
It is all in there to get the first red pill.

You don't. Would you try to teach a severely retarded person advanced calculus? No. You just shake your head and walk away.

GOOD advice Rosenberg

I've given up on redpilling boomers because every time I do it goes exactly like you said in the OP. I think at this point 50+ years of brainwashing is just too much to overcome, particularly because the Schofield bible fucked them up by getting their religious belief involved in their defense of Israel.

If I cannot show a person the error of their ways, I feed their superstitions, myths, and lunacy.
You still believe in Russian Hackers, I'll tell you that the California lesbos that drove off a cliff with their nigglets actually had their car hacked by Russian Hackers on behalf of the Trump Regime.
If you support Black Lives Matter, I'll tell you that they've started a private police force similar to Jewish Police in New York, and the only reason it's not featured on the news is that the Racist media corporations censor it out of fear that Black people will organize.

Gaslight onto them as they Gaslight onto us.

You're better off just trying to redpill shitskin Catholics, lol I could just imagine how bringing up the JQ would go with my relatives who are all Evangelicals.

You don't. Focus on changing their minds about something that actually matters.

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The Scofield Bible—The Book That Made Zionists of America’s Evangelical Christians

check out the Socratic method and bring them to mental conflict. they'll resort to cognitive dissonance so when you get to this point relax or you'll push too hard. rinse and repeat until they accept defeat.

just tell the boomers directly that their stupid god never existed

www.JesusNeverExisted.com

There's literally ZERO historical, scholarly, or archaeological EVIDENCE that Jesus ever existed.

Use their own scripture against them. The bible BTFO out of the Jews at every turn.

How do i know you exist?

Point out that they aren't even the same race.

Give them Macdonalds excellent ethnographic series on the kikes. He was also forced to retire after Culture of Critique detailed the kike involvement in every leftist social experiment of the last 300 years.
angelfire.com/rebellion2/goyim/je1.pdf

They equate the extant kikes with a dead race. Current Talmudist kikes are a combination of the Pharisees(the kikes of the old Hebrew race), Turkish traders(mudkikes), Roman expats(kikes of Rome), and the daughters of European nobility who were so desperate for cash they sold their daughters to non-christians(so white kikes who aren't good with money). So you outbreed an already shitty portion of a population with other shitty populations, then let it stew and inbreed in urban areas for centuries and is it any surprise you get shit?
The old Hebrew where just one more nation of herders and mercenaries little different from the Hittites or Babylonians. There is little merit or fault to be found in them as a whole, they behaved like nearly every bronze/iron age population, including the Celts if you’ve read the Ulster Cycle.
The Jews failed, they were broken and destroyed for all time, the last remnant of their race is a blood-taint which barely resembles the Pharisee rats who jumped ship when the Romans scattered them. They deserved their fate because they were unworthy of a covenant with God, they existed as an object lesson. And so it was for better races to do what they could and would not.

just tell them its the jew's fault that everyone hates boomers
to the boomer it is inconveivable why anyone would dislike them so they will be more than happy to throw th kikes under the bus

Every christian I know would burn their bibles before insulting a jew

Have you never been to rural America?

Evangelicucks are just liberals who still think church is the place to socially signal. They aren't actually religious, just faggots like every other liberal.

Fucking this. You'll likely find a Hooters restaurant across the street from your local church in rural retard America.

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For posterity.

Just don't, it's like arguing with kikes. They'll die out soon anyways, so why waste your energy when you could be helping gen-zyklon?

You don't. The best thing you can do is covertly poison them. The longer they continue to live the worse off we are.