Hitler's major military decisions were so bad the only explination is that he was trying to lose

Hitler was replaced by a Jewish body double, this was planned by the Jews from the beginning.

Every major military decision Hitler made was bad for Germany. They only explanation is that the original Hitler was replaced. The Jews planned from the very beginning to replace him, they accomplished many goals with his replacement.

Operation Barbarossa, the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union, was set to fail from the start. The Battle of Stalingrad make no sense. Over 1,000,000 German troops died trying to take a pile of rubble. While before the invasion Stalingrad was an industrial center, most of the equipment was moved far east before the Germans got there. What was still left in the city was destroyed by air before troops ever set foot there. Instead of moving on from the bombed out rubble factory Hitler wanted to take over the city, even though it was no longer a city and just a collection of rubble and rats. It held very little strategic value compared to what was to the south, the Caucasus oil fields. If Hitler had used the 1 million troops who died needlessly at Stalingrad instead in the south to take the oil fields the war would have gone very different.

Dunkirk is a another obvious gift to the Allies. Hitler literally let the entire British Army go back home. He could have wiped them out, but instead he let them live.

The Battle of Britain was the largest waste of military planes and ammunition in history. Germany accomplished nothing with this other than weakening their military. The Royals/Rothschilds don't care one bit about all the peasants who died to the bombs. The entire aristocracy moved north out of harms way. The Nazis blindly bombed nothing of importance for months.

The North Africa campaign was similar to Barbarossa. Rommel had no chance of reaching the oil fields of Iraq from the start. The supply lines were far too long, as they obviously would be if you can math, to reach Iraq. Supply trucks would use nearly all their fuel trying to reach the front lines.

In case none of you have noticed yet World War 2 was about oil. The Germans knew they needed more oil to run their military machine, yet all their major decisions either flat out wasted oil or ignored a military necessity. They got so desperate for oil they started the extremely dirty and expensive process of turning coal into oil. The Pacific theater was also about oil. The Japanese also needed more oil than they had so they invaded the Dutch East Indies. Their military plan called for a quick war with America that involved quickly destroying the air craft carriers at Pearl Harbor so the DEI had time to produce oil for the Japs. But FDR knew the Japs were coming so he sent carriers out to sea. The Japanese at least tried to win the war, unlike Hitler.

In conclusion Hitler tried to lose the war, the Japs didn't but they still lost. Oh, and 9/11 was an inside job.

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It's cause hitler was a kike, uuhhhhh durrrrrrr.

Really, nigger? The JIDF shills are out in full force, I see.

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Fuckoff kike you blew your cover

the boomers always unveil themselves by spewing this "muh oil" garbage.

Even JIDF has moved on to more sophisticated shilling

I didn't think there were this many JIDF shills around here. Guess I was wrong because every reply so far is from Jews.

Zero evidence, logic, or reason used in any of the replies, just insults, and bad ones at that.

Like, are you human? What do you think power airplanes and tanks? Prolly sheckles you dirty jew.

or maybe you could just admit it:
1: the holohoax didn't happen
2: hitler lost on purpose

hitler was controlled opposition

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You have none whatsoever

Eat shit

1: Holohoax didn't happen. Jews claimed 6,000,000 died. Yet when the death toll in Auschwitz was revised to 1.5 million from 4 million, the 6,000,000 Jew figure remained the same.

2: Hitler being replaced the only explanation for the horrible military blunders that lost Germany the war.

Hitler was meant to be controlled from the start. After he spent time in England this was assured. Hitler was propped up just to be pulled back down.

The Jews were able destroy National Socialism as a government. The took over all of Eastern Europe with the Bolsheviks. They took over Western Europe with the Rothschild controlled Britain. They divided Europe in communists and socialists. The Jews also got a fall back forever in case anyone points out they are evil they just crying out Holohoax.

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Funny how do your omitted decisions to invade Czechoslovakia, Poland, France, Norway. All utterly reckless and stupid moves that can lead only to catastrophe.

Oh, wait when Hitlers bluff won him triumph we forget, when same bluff lost we blame him. Doublethinker detected.

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He was a big guy, but i don't think he had mental powers.
your suppositions sucks ass

i recommend that you read hitler's was by david erwin implying that shills can read
he tried with all his might to secure oil fields, but his generals convinced him that by conquering Moscow, the russians would surrender

I think the problem with Zig Forums is the problem with normal humans, the vast majority of them stupid as fuck like you. You are nearing nigger level or retarded.

Neither one of those statements you made go against what I said, and in fact the second supports it. You clearly don't possess the English language capabilities to explain why your statements disprove mine.

Evidence points to Hitler(Jew replacement Hitler) escaping. This is what you do for an agent who helped you take over the world. His retirement in Argentina was a payoff.

Kept medicated? So a double agent can't be medicated. Or are you saying the medication was what caused Hitler to make terrible military decisions?

ITT: Zero discussion of Hitler's military blunders. Can you people even admit Hitler had military blunders? Or are you stupid and you think trying to take over Stalingrad was not a blunder?

Honestly seems like all of you are JIDF when you don't even talk about why Hitler lost.

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1: posts anime
2: How are you going to take over the world/get rid of zionist occupied governments by not invading anything?

Poland? Really? You think that was bad? Tanks literally ran over horses. France? Those fuckers surrendered almost immediately.


Claiming Hitler wasn't in charge of Germany, lul

These are both facts that support my theory.

Slightly unrelated, but are any of you capable of writing complete sentences or even a paragraph?

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hitler only took control of the military after the failure of operation citadel, a operation that he despised.
maybe more reading and less ad hominem is what you need.


Hitler was heavily medicated because his body could deal anymore with the stress of his position. Regardless, every person around him testified that his sanity was intact, and i believe those testimonies. Even if he escaped to Argentina, he would have lasted that long

Makr my words, your kind will suffer the most on DOTR.

The goon fears the anime

they tried to killed him for 2 reasons:
1. Foreigner deals with the conspirators (they got help and were promised payment if they suceded)
2. Germany had no chance of winning and surrendering was not an option for Hitler. Trying to kill Hitler so you can surrender to the allies its a path that could be taken if you put yourself in the position of the soldiers.

For the lurkers in this thread, i recommend to read Hitler's war by david erwin, some user made an audio book about it a couple of months ago

fuck off jew, putting words in my mouth. zero discussion. you are the worst kind of jidf. lies and no rational thought.


anime is used to depopulate japan and america, kys jew.

2: Germany had a large chance of winning, but letting 300,000 Brits leave and losing 1,000,000 for no reason in russia is why they lost.

You are the biggest shill/jew here. It is quite amazing how blatant you are. My topic is literally about how Germany could have won and the reasons they lost, and you start with they had no chance. Zero reason and logic, only jew lies.


I suggest you, or anyone talk about the topic at hand. Instead you jews are running scared.

Can't even acknowledge the military mistakes that were so bad they lost Germany the war. None of you ==JEW SHILLS== even dare talk about actual events that happened.

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Thank GOD we have freedom of speech so that we can have threads like these.
What a quality discussion.

Who's delusional now?
READ A BOOK NIGGER

Operation citadel didn't happen
The battle of Kursk didn't happen
The inability of Romania or Italy to defend the oil fields didn't happen
Hitler's own words saying "every time i think about operation Barbarossa my stomach trouble" (implying that he hated the taking of Moscow) didn't happen

I know your a shitty shill, but at least put some effort in your work


you are part of the problem

ikr?

Also these ==JEW SHILLS== are completely ignoring my images. Wanting me to call out the holohoax when I post jew-info images all over the place.

Literally no one wants to talk about Hitler losing 1,000,000 troops over a pile of ruble.

Instead there are insults. Absurdly stupid claims like ww2 wasn't about oil and invading Poland was bad. Demands for like minded thinking on the holohoax which when met are ignored. Statements that claim to debunk me but no reason as to why they debunk me. Telling lurkers not bother.

Starting to think there are more JIDF/Shareblue here than actual humans.

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1. Not attacking would have been death. Germans could not handle Superior USSR K1 Tanks - just barely when they got stuck in mud or ran out of fuel. Their armor was too thick for anything germans had at that point. K1s would have steamrolled Europe if they had been the ones attacking, as Europe actually had roads, unlike Eastern Europe. Stalin also built 1000 airfields and had 2 000 000 paratroopers ready for his planned offensive. Again, not doing a pre-emptive Barbarossa would have been death. Instant. See: Operation Groza
2. Only reason Barbarossa failed to secure the main targets (Leningrad, Stalingrad, Moscow) was because some retards in the german high command did not remember german and soviet trains had different trackwidth. The timing of the attack was perfect, but got delayed almost immediately due to lack of suppllies for 1-2months as supply-trains had to be built/rebuilt to fit the soviet tracks. Thus, Germans got delayed and had to face a freak winter with -45°C with +-90% casulties of overall forces due to weather in the Armygroup that was gunning for Leningrad.

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It's 3 million Poles 3 million jews. Jews combined the number and said 6 million jews. Mainly the Orthodox jews opposed to the creation of Israel, citing the Torah that a "jew in exile cannot return to the homeland", ruining zionist ambitions. They had to be sacrificed.
While looting Europe of its gold and valuables. Europe went bankrupt, while America got rich, and rich quick.
Indeed, even the concept of lebensraum was invented by the zionists, "The League of Eastern European States "; a "comitte for freeing eastern European jews", weird choice of wording, wouldn't you say? Hitler let those who invented this idea escape to the mandate of Palestine, the perquisite to Israel, after signing the Haavara Agreement.

can you berieve this kike, hans?

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I've been talking to shills throughout today, I'm actually kind of ashamed for even bothering to entertain them.

Its good to see that Alex, Louis and Brain Hitler are still with us. They are cool guys.

which strategic mistakes did hitler make?

The Jew will always put words in your mouth. I never said not to attack, I said not attack Stalingrad.

Thanks for laugh out loud jew. Calling the entire Soviet Army paratroopers.

What an absurd Jew lie. "Didn't remember" Fucking hilarious ""JEW""

""NOPE"" They tried to take over the pile of ruble formerly known as Stalingrad. They lost 1,000,000 troops for nothing. ""Still none of you KIKES have addressed this"
Literally talked about everything else.

Also the "Hitler did nothing wrong" is a Jew meme. Hitler clearly did wrong and you ==JEWS== lie every time to support your puppet.


Hello there fellow human.


Exact same jew lies by putting words in my mouth. Another JIDF just did that with the same format, get your shit together you retarded jews.

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Don't worry, JIDF recruits, you are gonna get gassed soon. It might be the dumbest way to kill someone, but we will open an exception and attend to your fetish.

Fellate a gun

Hitler had never the intention to take over the world.

Keep your Anglo-Jewish propaganda were the sun doesn’t shine.

No, he and a disarmed, isolated Germany without access to crucial raw material set up initially against two world powers with significant stronger military had no chance, at least that is what everybody, not blinded by propaganda, then thought.

LOL. This is the best one, you clearly ran out of what little JEW brain power you have. Thinking you are in the right because Rommel ALMOST got the border of the country he wanted to control. Thinking getting to Egypt is like getting to Iraq and controlling the oil fields. Hey almost! Just a few hundred more miles to go!


And yet Hitler didn't figure out that Allied planes always showed up on time and proceeded to dump all his ammo on shitty useless English peasants.

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halsey i'll kill you if you don't fuck off

israeli art student

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The only reason Hitler lost was because he made the mistake of humanizing the kikes just a tiny bit, and didn't expect the absolutely disgusting bullshit the (((allies))) pulled at the end of the war.
The next time all the jews must be slaughtered without exception

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And working at a pub does what exactly for the war effort? You think they put their factories as close as they could to the channel?


The JEW trusts the Soviets? Proof of wild claims?
They destroyed the airfields, but what about the airplanes? Oh right, those must have disappeared. Converted? You mean they didn't carry their parachute anymore. God damn Jew, how are you that dumb?

Still no Jews have a reason for Hitler losing 1,000,000 troops over the pile of ruble known as Stalingrad instead of securing the oil fields to the south. This complete lack of acknowledgement shows how this place is almost entirely JIDF/Shareblue. Instead it is more lies, diversions, demands, and more lies, bc jew.

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I hate all these shill threads now saying bullshit.

FDR was sending arms to the Communist Russians before Hitler was even elected. Hitler and Stalin invaded and split up Poland for breathing room for each country. UK declares on Germany for this but not Russia. I wonder why? Its because jews

Stalin did the Katyn Massacre, nothing anywhere close happened in the part of the country Hitler took. Hitler even sent for international investigators to investigate the massacre, of course only until after the war did the findings show no German involvement.

Perhaps, but the Americans were sending so many arms and material to the Russians, Hitler knew the Russians would attack so he did so earlier while most of this equipment was in the far east rather than right on his border.

If Hitler had not come to power more Germans would have died due to Weimar than fighting in the war. Hitler freed his people, already most were the dead walking by the Treaty of Versailles which would have lasted into the 1980s and jews were already bringing niggers into the Rhineland by the 1920s. Hitler did his part.

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Wew lad

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Another of the Jew tactics already seen itt. If you jews didn't follow scripts it wouldn't be so easy to call you out. Start calling the other a shill and they are wrong. Then make sweeping statements no one disagrees with, but somehow you imply the other does not agree with.


ctrl+F "Stalingrad" ………….. oh look refusing to talk about it again. Putting the same words in my mouth, again. I never said Hitler shouldn't have invaded, but how he did it. But you, and EVERY SINGLE OTHER JEW IS IGNORING STALINGRAD. It must be funny for lurkers at this point how much you Jews can't talk about Stalingrad.

lolwtf? The Soviets and the Americans killed or castrated nearly every German male and raped every German woman. How is that going to be worse than Weimar?
Also, what war would there have been if Hitler were not in power. God damn, is Shareblue hiring actual retards due to diversity?

At least the shills gave us a laugh this time.

So fellow human, what do you think of Hitler losing 1,000,000 troops over a pile of ruble instead of oil fields?

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Hitler was always an agent of the British Empire

Classic slide thread, dump some non relevant redpill pictures and then argue about something that makes no impact on what we should be doing today.

I can already imagine the pathetic kike screams you'll make as we break your legs

A damn waste if you ask me. If only Hitler hadn't gone full retard breaking all his treaties and invading most of Germany's neighbors. Then again that would have depended on Hitler himself not being a tard. It's too much to ask for.

If it's not controversial you should be able to find another source that corroborates it. Can you?

I should add that at the start of Barbarossa the VDV consisted of 10 Corps, each of which had 8,020 men on paper. Assuming each one was fully staffed and mobilized, that's still just 80,200 paratroopers. Where are the rest supposed to fit in?

Vladimir Nevezhin, Meltyukhov and Hoffmann are all historians who write about it. Lots of others do to. Strongly advice burgers start with Irving or Icebreaker though, better to cover the basics first when you start at 56% education.

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Stalingrad was a major railway hub for Caucasus oil you dumb yid.

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How nice of you to share wikipedia articles around here.

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Claiming it doesn't matter if Hitler tried to lose


Also, love the 2 million non controversial number became 1-2 million instantly.

Other way around. 2 million is controversial, but true. 1-2million is part of the mainstream kosher historical circles - not controversial. Your pilpul is weak

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Rail infrastructure was all destroyed by airplanes before troops ever got within sight of the city. Which I also stated in the very next sentence. But you knew that didn't jew? Amazing that you jews never get tired of lying. No wonder you control the media.

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If you take into account the number of traitors in the ranks of the reich's military, especially shit like the red orchestra, it's a miracle the nazis lasted as long as they did.
Few people ever talk about the how the traitors dispatched shitty orders to get men killed, left supply lines to whither, withdrew important resources "for safe storage" when they were in greatest need, and forwarded plans to foreign governments.
The war was lost because hitler was too nice to suspect that several people in the upper echelons of his command wanted him killed and everything he created destroyed.
Seriously, fucking look into the sheer amount of internal sabotage there was and you will know they would have won otherwise.

So the 2 million number you said was not controversial is controversial now. Too many lies JEW. You can't keep them straight. Your small Neanderthal/JEW brain can't keep up with all your lies, just like always.

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You seem almost close to human.

Still refuse to talk about the 1 million dead nazis who died over ruble instead of oil fields. Sabotage? Hitler marched million men to their death over nothing. But hey, some of them didn't have some supplies. So you think denying some supplies to 1 million men is worse than losing 1 million men.

Nice try jew.

btw, pic is of national guard base that housed the truck the FBI used to destroy the OKC building.

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learn english, nigger

bravo user

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WRONG

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Sounds fascinating, I'm familiar with some of those names. Tell me, which one describes in detail how Stalin decided to commit a quarter of his entire military force to a form of warfare that was still experimental and largely untested, and for which he had nowhere near enough serviceable aircraft to even conduct on a strategic scale?

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"Hitler’s operational plan called for the destruction of Stalingrad’s arms production through bombardment or siege. Capture of the metropolis was not an expressed goal; the Caucasus was the primary objective of the campaign."
Hitler's War, pg. 140

"The high command soon watered down the offensive. Haider wrote in his diary on June 30 that the chief of the OKW staff, Alfred Jodl, had told Hitler during a situation conference 'with great emphasis, that the fate of the Caucasus will be decided at Stalingrad. Therefore, necessary to transfer elements of Army Group A to B…. In new packaging, an idea is served up that I had introduced to the Führer six days earlier.'"
Verrat and der Ostfron, pg 279

''"Halder shifted the 4th Panzer Army from the southern front on July 30, to serve as the 'spearhead
for the attack on Stalingrad.' Despite protests from Army Group A’s field commanders, Halder also
took away the elite Grossdeutschland motorized infantry division."''
Hitler's Revolution, pg 214

"German radio specialists arrested two former Polish army officers in a Warsaw suburb, who transmitted detailed information to Moscow about the Caucasus offensive. Abwehr officials, the rankand-file of whom did not share the treasonous sentiments of Canaris and Oster, reported this to the Führer’s headquarters. It revealed that Stalin knew about the Germans' military preparations. Receiving the report, General Fellgiebel decided that it was 'too alarming' and would only upset the Führer. He buried the news."
Verratene Verräter, pg. 230

''"In 1948, former Gestapo chief Heinrich Müller summarized the dissonance in the Führer’s headquarters: 'Many older officers of high rank sabotaged Hitler’s plans…. Although I'm no military expert, I know that Hitler was right about military matters more often than these people. Hitler would issue an order, and because some
general would find Hitler personally offensive, this officer would indirectly disobey the order. Then when a disaster occurred, the same man and his friends dumped the blame on Hitler. And they often lied right to his face.'"''
Verrat and der Ostfron, pg. 406

80.000
That are 4 times as many as the allies had at the Normandy.
Peaceful Soviet-Union, perfectly defensive and in no way planning an attack.

Still a lot less than 1 million, which was my entire point.

Hitler was a high functioning sperg who did well until the pressure built up. As things got worse he started making idiotic decisions that got troops encircled and destroyed. He spent the last half of the war reeeeeeeeeing at his generals and countermanding them.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Hitler actually made a lot of good decisions. The meme that he made bad decisions came from the generals who were butthurt that he was better than they were.

Which is irrelevant.
Relevant is that the Soviet Union was a militarized society with the biggest and most modern military of its time, that had mobilized and moved all of its military assets close to the border, indicating an imminent attack. Such a mobilization can not sustained.

If the SU would have been defensive, they would have moved the most valuable military asset inland, like the tanks and planes, from were they could start a counter attack, not to be destroyed in the first wave of the enemies attack.

Otto Remer basically said this. So did Adolf's sister.

Remer actually said that this was the reason that Hitler did not occupy Britain, because of treasonous officers giving him class intel on Dunkirk.

ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p108_Schoeman.html

In hindsight, he should have gone full William the Conqueror, invaded and then executed the entirety of the British elite.

Yes.
No.
Absolutely not. According to documents declassified after the fall of the Soviet Union, Stavka was moving some forces toward the border, but only in small numbers to try to avoid provoking Hitler.
That's sort of what they did, only in a way that wasn't stone cold retarded. The mobilization plan approved in 1941 called for 186 divisions stationed near the border, plus another 51 in Ukraine and southern Belarus, where they assumed the German attack would concentrate. The plan was to stop the Germans at the border; failing that, the second echelon would have led the counterattack.

OP is a literal dumbass and a faggot, in order to stifle such idiocy in the future, I will debunk every point he makes.

Actually it was a master stroke, Germany took the initiative and would have won handily the first year. It was luck that the winter was the coldest in a hundred years and US-Aid that saved the Soviets, furthermore Hitler's generals ignored Hitler's original plan, which was to focus on Leningrad (creating a port to resupply) and Stalingrad in the first year before winter, his generals purposely diverted forces from these two fronts and made a third front to go for moscow, this reduced force parity and in the end they captured none of the cities.
Source;
hooktube.com/watch?v=kHtbKUTC4Qs

Now you fucked up, this is a myth. Hitler didn't "let them escape". First, Dunkirk was surrounded by sandy terrain, and the heavy rains turned this into a trap for any tank or troop approach. This put a ground attack into a stalemate / loss for the Germans. This forced the Germans to wait for air support. The British commanders also directed these forces to Dunkirk to pull out (without notifying France!)
Sources:
hooktube.com/watch?v=dtwxfCKU37I
hooktube.com/watch?v=WYGcMqMd128

Macro-strategy called for Germany to develop arms in proportion to their largest opponent. At this time it was the Soviet Union, so mostly land forces were developed. Had Germany developed a heavier navy rather than land forces, they could have defeated Britain, but they would have lost quicker to the Soviet Union.

Also the Battle of Britain was retaliatory battle for Britain's un-restrained bombing of civilian targets like Dresden. It also helped to stem such bombings. Although many people tout the plane / pilot statistics, it was more about airfields and bombers.


Parity force to keep British contingents in check, if you need to move a knight to keep another knight from taking your bishop…

More of Global Finance, Germany wasn't 'starving' for oil at the time, and the fischer-tropsch process is actually very clean and effective for coal gassification. Energy wasn't the issue initially, later on with Japan it was used by FDR to provoke Japan into a war. But in the European theater the causes of the war were more nuanced.

Source;
hooktube.com/watch?v=B7nE5fvFXNE

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Of course, it tanks were superior to anything anybody else had.
It’s air force was modern, just one generation older, because the SU had started much earlier in arming. They made that up in massive numbers.

Haha, nearly all of the best units the Soviets had were destroyed early in the war because they were captured close to the border, in massive number, millions of POW.

No they didn’t.
Prove is for their counter attack the SU used all new equipped units with brand new built tanks planes etc. All of the old stuff perished in the initial attack, no reserves.

The defenses of all important cities were made in panic and rushed, they planned to march in direction of Berlin, not the reverse.

Great logic there, dumbass.

Thanks for the replies!
It seems you took the time the go back and pull selected quotes, thanks for the effort.
Seems rather odd the SS would let so many traitors walk free.

Some nice quotes about specifics of Stalingrad, the first one in particular.

As I stated in the first post, the production and rail facilities were bombed out by airplanes before troops got to the city. Why did troops even go into the city if the capture was not the goal?


Not sure where to start with your basket of lies. Master stroke of being the worst land invasion in history? His plan was Leningrad and Stalingrad? Really? You don't think his goal was the oil fields?

Linking hooktube to conspiracy videos, lul, jew detected. Hooktube is for stopping views and monetization from youtube videos . To use it for conspiracy videos is the opposite of its purpose.

That shit about chess, you really ran out of bullshitting ideas didn't you. Not even an attempt there.

Amazing flat out lies. The very dirty and very expensive process was developed because they couldn't get to the oil they needed. You seem to have no concept of cause and effect.

Is this to muddy the waters now that everyone knows Hitler survived? If so, kill yourself.

Oh wow, they figured out sloped armor and put a big gun on it. Bet they sure would've BTFO the British with their laughable radar and proximity fuses.
U wot m8? Pick one.
Which is indeed why they suddenly had no military and subsequently lost the war, thanks for pointing that out.
So the Soviet defense plan was just to use a few million men as meat shields for no reason and then start fighting the war? I think it's much more logical to assume that Stavka's defense plan just didn't function, mostly due to lack of experienced officers and poorly organized command structure.

Before Stalingrad, Hitler interfered very little in the operations of his Generals. All but one of the "blunders" you mentioned were not as a result of any decision Hitler made, other than his decision to trust his Generals.

As for Stalingrad - what you call a "blunder" was actually a sound strategic decision based on the very shortage of oil that you yourself exclaim.


Germany had no shortage of industry whatsoever. Production was at its highest in 1945. Germany used its massive surplus in industrial output for retooling and rapid developement of cutting edge designs in all types of war equipment.

What Germany had a shortage of was oil, which it could both acquire and deprive Russia of by taking the key city of Stalingrad on the Volga river. With Stalingrad, Germany would have access to the Caucas oil. If the Germans had held that city for 6 months, it would have reduced the ability of the Red Army to carry out offensive operations to 0.

At the beginning of Op. Barbarossa, Hitler was aware that Germany only had enough oil to last four months. While advances in synthetic oil production extended that time considerably, Germany was still working under a time limit. As oil reserves grew empty, and Hitler grew increasingly frustrated with his Generals', particularly Halder's, lack of understanding of the economic aspects of war. Hitler, understanding the fatal situation, had to take charge, and order the emergency capture of the Caucas oil, or "Operation Case Blue".

If you want to speak badly of Hitler's poor military decisions, why not mention events that came after he took matters into his own hands, and started issuing strict orders to his Generals? Why not mention the Kursk salient, or the Stand Fast order? Your critique is disordered and lacking of any true insight. You are a faggot.

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Your knowledge of the war is obviously extremely unsophisticated, and based on your replies, you are obviously literally Jewish - FYI for your next shill thread, don't call EVERY SINGLE person you reply to a Jew/Kike, it gives you away. Even though this is a mossad slide thread, in case some new user is reading this and taking anything you say seriously, I will quickly explode your weak brainlet arguments and "theories" for the record.


Hitler actually made many great military decisions, including personal involvement in the invasion plans for both France & Poland, ordering the Army to stand fast on the outskirts of Moscow in winter of 1941 (saving them from freezing to death if they had retreated as the front commanders had ordered), and some others. Of course he made many mistakes as well, however most of his bad decisions came late in the war, after it was arguably already lost. What ((you)) and most people don't realize is that Hitler listened to and simply accepted the plans he was given by his general staff, and he rarely overruled them. This includes the invasion into Russia, which almost the entire High Command agreed was a good idea.


This is wrong - most of the factories and industrial facilities inside the city were not moved east, and continued to produce tanks, tractors and other Red Army supplies until the Germans were on the outskirts of the city. Stalingrad was a major producer of tanks, manufacturing something like 12% of Red Army tanks. Some factories and industrial production facilities in Soviet territory changed hands 3-4 times before the war ended.


Wrong - Stalingrad had huge strategic value, it was right on the Volga, and the westernmost point on the Volga in the south. The Germans needed to capture Stalingrad & cutoff the Volga before they could capture the oil fields in the southern Caucasus, to stop Russian supplies going south and to secure their flank (see pics related). The city had also become a political prize for both Hitler and Stalin once the fighting began, and neither was going to give it up. The Germans actually reached the Volga and captured some 90% of the city, but lost it due to insufficient supply and Soviet counter attacks.


More utter non-sense - The Germans entered North Africa to bail out the Italians AGAIN, who had a sad excuse for an army for the entirety of the war and had to be bailed out over and over by the Germans, including in Greece, for which the Germans lost precious time in 1941, delaying the start of Barbarossa. Iraq was not a goal of the Afrika Korps, in fact Rommel defied orders advancing as far as he did, he was supposed to prevent a total collapse in North Africa, not drive to Iraq, you fucking brainlet. You also neglect to mention the fall of Tobruk, where 33,000 British soldiers surrendered to the Arika Korps without fighting after being outclassed by Rommel - The Germans captured the port including 2,000 vehicles, 2,000 tons of fuel and had full access to the Port for receiving fuel & supply deliveries. Rommel only ultimately failed due to the Brits reading the Enigma codes, and sinking every Italian supply ship on the Mediterranean before arrival, forcing Rommel to retreat.


The stupidity and boomerism of this statement does not even warrant a reply.

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If that is so easy, why did nobody else had comparable tanks?

There were no proximity fuses in 1941 and British radar was still primitive. Of course in a land war the Soviets would have BTFO the British, all the time.

One or two years older makes not much difference, particularly if you have so many more units. It is normal in the cycle of modernization.

Allied tanks never matched the German ones, but they had much more of them. German jet planes were eclipsing anything the allies had, doesn’t matter if the enemy has so many more.

Yeah they nearly lost the war.
Only the weather, overstretched German logistic and the arrival of troops from Asia saved Stalin and the SU.
The USA then helped the Soviets out with military goods, tanks, planes until they could regroup and rebuild. And latter on the SU didn’t need to care about building trucks and trains, transport planes all delivered by the USA.

The Soviet plan was to attack Germany. For that they had to mass their forces on the border.

Please don’t play dumb, the Soviets were for decades, crowing from the roof, that they had the intention to conquer the world, first Europe.

Funny, I always thought that a good chunk of the military decisions came out of the, huh, military, what with all those ex-Prussian noblemen generals hating what he was doing and all. Also the army never told him they couldn't reach their goal of capturing the Moscow area because they were overconfident they could steamroll just like in France (and they did so for a time) so all the blame for going into Russia with no equipment fell on him, just how Stalin is blamed for human waves tactics against the Nazis when it was just a plan for some of his high command generals to show him they could act fast just like the Nazis, who then promptly lost in Finland and had to resort to desperate maneuvers.

Absolutely true, and any black person trying to make a difference gets the boot by the ZOG Hollywood types, just look at Bill Cosby.

Ever heard of strategic positions? They could get Finnish (and maybe Swedish) assistance easier that way.

Where did you get all this info, my dude, I love a good read.

It wasn't long before the Germans did. Ever heard of, say, anything they ever made after the Panzer IV Ausf. F?
Yeah there were, google it.
Because they practically invented it. It made a huge difference in the Battle of Britain.
They would've had to get to Britain first. Tell me more about how modern and advanced the Soviet navy was.
It kinda did though, you can tell by how the Soviet air force got plastered on the ground despite having tens of thousands of aircraft. Then again that was mostly due to Stalin having purged most everyone who knew what they were doing.
That, my friend, is a meme. It comes from the fact that the Americans, who supplied the bulk of the Western Allies' tanks, focused on pumping out Shermans in bulk for the first half of the war. The British fielded effective heavy tanks all along, like the Churchill, and the Americans came up with some good ones later in the war, like the Pershing.
Dresden.
Oh that's news to me, I thought they sent all their troops to the Eastern border.
True, they really couldn't have done it without America. Really makes you wonder how well they would have fared offensively in 1941.
Holy crap, that's even dumber. You're telling me they meant to send their first echelon into combat with inferior weapons while the reserves got the modern ones. It's like you've never even played an RTS game, let alone read a military history book.
You say that as if Hitler hadn't just broken his own deal and annexed Czechoslovakia, invaded Poland knowing they were guaranteed by Britain and then invaded the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark and Norway for no reason. If the Soviets were planning to invade Germany they had ample reason to.

This is so dumb, Hitler made mistakes, there is no arguing that.

this Hitler cult is turning the board retarded.

This is fucking retarded, learn history.

And notice how they attach some of our pics to look believeable.

OP is literally so wrong even my kike history professor would be red with shame for it. There was no major geopolitical mistakes made by Hitler.

Aside from invading Russia, or invading Poland in the first place.

Except for the part where he willfully ignored 400 years of British geostrategy and thought his "fellow aryans" in control of the UK would gladly let him conquer Russia and consolidate Europe.

Jewgle says: Britain lacked the capacity to develop the fuze, so the design was shown to the United States
And NO, in 1941 there were no proximity fuses nowhere.

Yeah “Britain invented it” like the jet engine.
As early as 1886, German physicist Heinrich Hertz showed that radio waves could be reflected from solid objects.

The German inventor Christian Hülsmeyer was the first to use radio waves to detect "the presence of distant metallic objects". In 1904, he demonstrated the feasibility of detecting a ship in dense fog, but not its distance from the transmitter.[7] He obtained a patent[8] for his detection device in April 1904 and later a patent[9] for a related amendment for estimating the distance to the ship. He also got a British patent on September 23, 1904[10] for a full radar system, that he called a telemobiloscope. It operated on a 50 cm wavelength and the pulsed radar signal was created via a spark-gap. His system already used the classic antenna setup of horn antenna with parabolic reflector and was presented to German military officials in practical tests in Cologne and Rotterdam harbour

Henri Gutton, Sylvain Berline and M. Hugon, began developing an obstacle-locating radio apparatus, aspects of which were installed on the ocean liner Normandie in 1935.[16][17]
During the same period, Soviet military engineer P. K. Oshchepkov, in collaboration with Leningrad Electrophysical Institute, produced an experimental apparatus, RAPID, capable of detecting an aircraft within 3 km of a receiver.[18] The Soviets produced their first mass production radars RUS-1 and RUS-2 Redut in 1939 but further development was slowed following the arrest of Oshchepkov and his subsequent gulag sentence.

Gulag – Hahaha the Germans persecuting the slav…

A meme – the Allies produced 4 times as many tanks as Germany and her allies.

Yeah the allies commited war crimes, mass murder.
Doesn’t change the fact that German aircraft design were far ahead of everything the allies had.


The first line troops had the most modern weapons available, there were (nearly) no reserves.

Wow, a professional is talking.

One can not invade ones own country. Yeah Poland was a aggressor state and the Czech did machine gun protesting Germans and were living on German land. There is no Czechoslovakia btw.

Britain has no right whatsoever to decide about other peoples territory.
Crazy that Britain didn’t “guaranteed” Finland or Poland against peaceful Soviet Union’s annexation, instead sought an alliance against Germany even before outbreak of hostilities involving Germany.

Britain and France invaded Norway to shut down Swedish iron ore deliveries to Germany, probably planed to occupy the Swedish iron ore mines as well.

Britain and France are certainly aggressors, they never respected neutrality. The neutral Danish fleet was sunk and Copenhagen set ablaze by the British in the Napoleonic wars. Neutral Persia was occupied, its rightful ruler deposed by a joint British, Soviet aggression in WWII.
Belgium was a hostile puppet state of France and Britain.

Netherlands and Denmark had to be occupied in self defence against British and French aggression against neutrals.

I hope the vatniks come to liberate you very hard.

Neck yourself kike.

Your Donald Duck level of knowledge of the war does not impress anyone.

Come the fuck on, at least get the facts fucking right.