MGTOW

Welcome to this MGTOW discussion thread.
(The old one hit bump limit. This is continuation)

MGTOW is a philosophy that includes political and social components.
The political component of mgtow is combatting the gynocentric society and the eventual establishment of the first Androcentric societies the world has ever seen
To this end mgtow proposes the abandonment of this failed unnatural institution called marriage
A patriarchy is not an androcentric society. A patriarchy is just a small group of men using other men as cannon fodder for various purposes. The best example is what happened on the Titanic and all the wars in history.

The social component of mgtow if anyone is interested in that is for waking up men to stop being sacrificial lambs in the cause of tribe, society, community, race, nation or whatever other social group demands that you be prepared to sacrifice your self interest for some fraudulent cause or the other. It is for men to realize that beyond a small blood circle of your dad, mum and in some cases very close friends no one really cares about you. You owe them nothing. Never do anything that is not in your self interest.

Also white genocide has not been proven to be anything other than a meme. If you have any unambiguous evidence that there is a plan to cull the entire white peoples then please present it.
What is real is white servitude to Jews. There is no point bringing children into servitude to Jews
Live Free or Die

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MGTOW is the male version of feminism.

MGTOW is for virgin losers that can't get any attention from females.

MGTOW are INCELS

Shaming language is the female diction. Nice of you to drop by, Roastie.

Nice attempt at shaming but we don't shun incels.
Incels are welcome to evolve into the path of self improvement and mgtow. Quit the life of bitterness and rage. Your pain and rage are understandable and rage can sometimes feel empowering but it is not the way out of your personal quagmire. The way out is realizing that there is more to life than marriage and the daily slog.

pic related the final solution to your marriage whining and muh western women are shit. Any other excuse is just hamstering and feelz.

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How are Asian women a solution? What prevents Asian women from behaving the same way modern white women do?

-yes MGTOW is correcting its wrongs
-wrong, what a prejudice thing to say … you cant even back up that statement, lazy idiot talk, typical anti MGTWO shill
-maybe, are "Incels" as bad thing? Are you from CNN trying to push this incel agenda to stop people from knowing the truth. That these kids were bullied and harassed and pushed and they fought back. What is an "incel" to you. You are not making an argument just throwing mud. What did Incels do wrong?

You.

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Very Jewish thread, OP.


Why not just marry an Eastern European woman if there are too many career womyn and feminazis in the West? At least they're white.
No.

Women are like cats. You cannot change female nature. They are going to do what they do as soon as opportunity presents. Besides in this day and age attempting to control women with violence (if that is what you are implying) is risky and would sooner land you in jail

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That's why I started out that anecdote with the words "for example". The $12.99 flowers is an example of a very simple, cost effective, easy way to convince a woman that she's better off staying with you than straying elsewhere. The fact that you can't understand that the words "for example" means "this is just one of many ways" shows that you are either a turbo-autist or a jew that's being dense on purpose.

Here's another example: how do I get my wife to not dress like a whore? It was really simple.
"YOU DON'T LIKE IT," she says in a very confrontational way.

I have more anecdotes about how I got her to stop doing inappropriate things and start doing things I want her to do if you like, after all THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE

Then prevent her from doing that. Do I really need to educate you like you'd be a 12 year old? Are you stuck with the mentality of a child that wants his girlfriend to act like mommy? Seriously kid. Grow up.

I think your reply was to me and you tagged the wrong post so I will reply just the same.
I repeat female nature cannot be changed. It is what it is. Even in medieval societies where they tried barbaric practices to keep women in line they still failed because adultery still happened
Even now in Islamic societies where some of these same barbaric practices continue adultery is still prevalent
You cannot really prevent a woman from divorcing you and looting your assets if that is what she intends. Much better men than those that browse this board have failed.

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The white race is going nowhere. The Jews want the white goyim to breed as much as they can and produce hardworking cattle for their various ZOG plantations.

Then don't marry.
Trump married 3 times. You fail and you try again.

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So this is the hill you want to die on ?

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You flunked logic there. I said better men than those that browse this board have failed to prevent divorce loot. That doesn't mean that some men haven't. For every Trump there are other successful men that have got divorce looted

Prove using non meme sources that white genocide is real and there is plan by Jews to exterminate white people

Link to an archive of the previous thread, faggot

My mistake. Sorry
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So you're a kike. you surely didnt give that away already.

OP dropped the ball with that one. It's all well and good to not want to throw your life away taking care of a parasite, but to pretend the entire western world isn't anti-white-male is just foolish.

Of course, to defend marriage or relationships as desirable is even worse. A man who willingly makes himself a miserable slave just because he was told it's the "right thing to do" is less than a nigger.

All you have to do is convince a woman that she'd be worse off without you and that her current life is happy and she won't divorce you. It's really not that hard.

99% of what women want is attention and 1% of what they want is stuff. If you give them the attention they desire and maybe 25% of the stuff they want, they'll never leave you.

Very defeatist if you ask me

< Also white genocide has not been proven to be anything other than a meme.
< Jews WANTS Whites to have White children!
Fagtows actually believes this.

Pol really needs proper modding. A team of mods to purge the unholy maelstrom of faggotry, cancer and fail.


It is hilarious how your kind lectures Pol about relationship. What next, lecture Vietnam veterans about how to fight in a jungle environment?


Exactly, National-Socialism instead of post-modern black pilling, apathy and being a pitfull loser.


All I care about is National-Socialism (not "trad") and hence I think both men and women should empower National-Socialism, even above muh famelee. What mfagtow/inceldom is about is doing to White men what social justice feminism does to White women, that is the work of an (((enemy))).


This is how I get my wife to…
Yeah, right! -D


Not the jews!
Not the jews!
Not the jews!
Blame the women, fellow Polacks! It's entirely their nature to be degenerate regardless of race and culture, so never try to do anything about it !!

I did not say that at all. I even said white servitude to jews is real
I said there is no evidence of a plan to exterminate white people

Die, you fucking embarrassment.

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>< Also white genocide has not been proven to be anything other than a meme.
>< Jews WANTS Whites to have White children!
See

Ok kike. the one talking in the video is Ursula Haverbeck, you might know her as the granny repeatedly put in jail for speaking out against jews.

kill yourself goatfucker

If you deny white genocide then why are you even here? I'm not complaining, I just don't understand what there is to accomplish here that can't be accomplished on a site like reddit? All you're doing is providing further evidence that the mgtow movement is pure subversive poison.

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I think this shit should be bumplocked. It's not really Zig Forums related. It's not politics neither politically incorrect. It's male feminism, couldn't give a fuck.

Man this board has become worse than what I thought. I'm afraid the damage might even be irreversible at this point. It's going to take months to get rid of all the roasties and redditfags who flooded this board while kikefy was in charge. You can tell they are actual roasties and cucks because they use the same stereotypical insults:

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Look, this is Zig Forums. You have to provide evidence for your claims from credible sources.

Never change, Zig Forums

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I disagree, we should let MGTOW air their grievances so that we can debate what they have to say. Kampfy's method of banning all wrongthink was cancer

A kike pushing that whole "MGTOW" horeshit, how unexpected…

these losers can't debate, it's the same crying about women wanting to divorce them and steal their assets, mind you these ugly losers don't have anything of value to offer and no one would want to marry them anyway

Don't believe me? Try it yourself, you'll see. My wife rarely if ever second guesses me any more because I've already been right in so many ways, and I'm never a dick about it or say "I told you so."

Instead of forbidding her things, I convince her she doesn't want those things in the first place. Instead of making demands, I convince her that things are worthwhile or even fun to do. Instead of ignoring her or leaving her to her own devices, I take an interest in the things she does so that I can guide her in the direction I want her to go BEFORE she gets off track.

yep, its a kike.

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The demographic trends are clear enough and easily available for anyone who looks for them. There are even places like south africa in the world where whites are violently being genocided. At this point the only people who could possibly deny white genocide would be jews

A non meme source is a credible historian or the like documenting evidence of a Jewish plan to exterminate all white peoples. So far in this thread I have not seen any.
A jew saying bad things about jews doesn't necessarily give him credibility

I wonder who could be behind this post…

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The demographic trends do show that white birth rates are going down and that of non whites are going up. This doesn't necessarily mean that there is a systematic attempt to exterminate white people. You have to prove a logical connection between the two

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Incel is illogical, anyone can buy a whore or commit a rape. In fact if you are going to go on a killing spree because you cannot get laid, then you are already so far past rape, that you might as well rape. It's built into us on the genetic level. The history of humanity is rape. The raiders and conquerors would always rape. You force your enemy to bear your own offspring and it makes your conquered enemy culture fall in line with your own genetic destiny.

MGTOW serves a good purpose, in warning men against the perils of marriage. It's a bad deal and greedy cunts will conspire with the greedy cunt government to take everything from a man. These days, in the West, if you don't have an ironclad prenup, you are fucked. That's like playing blackjack and 'hit'-ing no matter what your current hand is, without considering the risks of a bust.

>(((Credible historians))) sources only goy
i know exactly how you operate kike. why dont you just say you only trust CNN? it's the same low IQ response.

feminists are female supremecists. They want to be the CEOs and world leaders while men do all the drone work.
MGTOW are separatists. Women can inherit civilization while men go innawoods.
See how long women can keep the lights on and the water running without men doing everything.

Seems legit. So assuming you're not a LARPing faggot, what do you personally get out of your marriage that's worth investing essentially your entire life into it?

Surely you won't tell me you're in it for stimulating companionship or sex with the same, ever-aging person while you could be sleeping with a new young girl every week.

Well, you are doing the white race a favor with a bunch of children, right? Will you be able to see the results of your genetic legacy after you die?

You mgtow cucks couldn't make it any clearer whose side you're on

This is like saying you can defeat the jews by ignoring them. Things will go on. Women will always find a betabux, you won't make a difference by running away from problems you can't face. If you want to go your own way you're free to do that but don't come here with your bullshit like it would be some revolutionary thing.

Why would less than 10% of men refuse to do everything? MGTOW is not even 1% of the male population.

Wrong:
MGTOWs don't demand others change their behaviors and society make changes to conform to their ideals.
MGTOWs have no leaders, no movements, no gatherings. It's about individualism which once taken hold can't be stopped.
men around the world practice MGTOW philosophy without knowing.
Feminists claims can be dis-proven in a few minutes with statistics.
MGTOW philosophy is grounded in reality with logic, statistics and reasoning. It can't be invalidated like feminism.

your wife is a whore, just like all women
enjoy jumping through hoops so that you can pretend she isnt a whore

hmmm.

Have some state propaganda from Sweeden

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It isn't ignoring, it is shunning. Stop working for jews, stop buying from jews, stop renting from jews and see how long they stay in power.
Ignoring is what bluepill henpecked husbands do.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Really makes you think

You genetic dead ends haven't been welcome here ever. I fully support you giving up on women, though. If you want to make yourself useful, maybe you could go jihad some jews.

of course you're too much of a coward to even associate with women, why would I expect you to give your life for anything?

That is not how this works.

Imkampfy wasn't harsh enough on the fagtow/incel poz-cancer.


Personal anecdotes over the internets, that is the problem, too many uses taht to larp. No idea if you have a wife IRL or not. Still, your argument isn't bad. It will still be lost on MGTOWs.

Right, and I guess it's just a (((coincidence))) that the white birth rates and population ratios started to plummet as jews started to push mass immigration, race mixing, and population replacement in America and Europe.

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Here, have a rabbi talking explicitly about white genocide. Still haven't seen you address the violent white genocide that happened in rhodesia and is currently happening in zimbabwe

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By this logic the moon landing was fake because one American opined so
You still seem to be having trouble with the concept of well researched documentary evidence to prove a certain thing

south africa*** not zimbabwe

At the core of every woman is woman nature. Once you understand woman nature you can't go back to simping.

>hehehe the goyim are so stupid, if i only agknoledge one at a time it's all just a (((coincidence)))that we say the same thing

hmm.

Finally one real example is presented. This is a case of inter racial conflict between blacks and whites which has taken genocidal proportions in one part of the globe. This is till not evidence of a Jewish plan to exterminate white people from this planet

Keep denying what is clearly happening kike, you only dig your own grave

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Why do you ignore the Holodomor kike?

I have provided several opportunities to provide documentary evidence of what you are claiming. Instead of doing that you continue to cite various people's opinions as if they were proof. At this point I will stop responding to any further such attempts unless you change your poor debating style.

I don't filter anybody but I reserve the right to stop making responses to posts without substance

Hmm.

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Since you deny white genocide this is now a thread about white genocide.

I can empathize with the incels and mgtows. When I was a teenager I wanted to fuck all the girls but none of them would have anything to do with me. Going through highschool as a low status male is a really painful experience and I can see how it drives many into a murderous frenzy. Especially when they are teens and their bodies are so full of hormones.

Jump forward a few years and I was in college, I finally got some pussy, but as a low status male, it was mostly fat chicks with low self esteem. You don't have to be a virgin if you lower your standards to about nigger level. With that little bit of experience, I was able to maneuver myself into a real relationship with a good white woman. This lasted for a couple years before she decided to cheat on me with my best friend and then she cheated on him with 3 black dudes at the same time and then she got HPV so, karma I guess.

After that I had a string of one night stands with less attractive women who always disappointed me on every level. There just isn't any point to it. I can masturbate and get the same results without having to talk to these out of shape liberal-idiot whores that make up the bulk of the single female population in America. Yeah I never had any kids, but that's probably for the best, I haven't got the best genetics.

This has GOT to be bait.
Please don't.

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Not really. It's eugenics. Like the soyboys getting vasectomies and feminists becoming cat ladies, so MGTOW fucking off their parent's basement way is a good thing, the white race does not need weak genes.

I think you may be right. The more I see these mgtow cucks post, the more I come to understand why they would fall in line with such an ideology. Its like I can sense their weak chins and psoriasis-riddled scalp through the internet if that is at all possible. Probably best these types aren't having children anyway

It's human nature to attack the low status people. We are basically monkeys. Very little evolution separates us from baboons or chimps. In baboon society much like in modern human society, you have the alpha male who gets all the pussy, and then you have the beta males who are abused and depressed. Unfortunately, this also causes a lot of young males to snap. If you are low status and you get picked on a lot, then you better do something about it fast, because that shit will stay with you forever. I would love to see even more school shootings. I want every bully to get his face shot off.

Well first of all, not all of us are niggers who want to fuck a different whore every night. Play nigger games, win nigger prizes (like AIDS). Did it ever occur to you that your own niggershines is the reason that only inferior, gold-digging whores will have anything to do with you?

As for what do I get? Firstly, I have four white children, none of whom are junkies, whores, or losers. These children are the joy of my life, and I could not have raised such fine children without my wife's constant supervision of them. That alone is worth any so-called sacrifice you imagine that I have made, but there's more.

I also get three home-cooked, nutritious meals a day, and of course my children are fed the same. My wife plans, shops, prepares, and cleans up after for all of these meals. The only time I ever eat out is business lunches or when I take my wife and kids out to eat as a treat about once a month. My wife is always disappointed in the food because she knows she could do better, and I agree, but I remind her that it's a good opportunity to work on the children's manners and deportment and teaches them to appreciate good meals. The last time I ate fast food was over a year ago, when my wife was sick, and it was so disgusting I couldn't finish my burger. My wife spends a minimum of 4 hours a day on meals, so that's a half a work day that she's busy and not thinking about shenanigans at all. For a lot of men, the three squares a day would be enough, but wait, there's more!

My wife takes care of all our clothes so that they're immaculate. She buys most of them and keeps them clean, folded, pressed, dry-cleaned when necessary, and makes sure my kids are never shabby, too hot, or too cold. I never have to sniff-test my underwear or rummage around for matching socks because there are always a bare minimum of two pairs of socks and underwear waiting in my drawer even on laundry day. She makes sure that all of us have clean bedding and the beds are neatly made every day. I never have to sleep in a stinky, rumpled bachelor bed. Not sure how much time this takes her really so I'm going to guess anywhere from 6 - 10 hours a week.

My wife also keeps our house incredibly clean. There are no sticky floors or toilet rings in our house. It always smells clean. I never trip over the kid's toys because she makes them pick up their toys, teaching them to be clean and tidy too. I estimate that she spends at least 2 - 3 hours a day on this, not including meal cleanup.

Last but not least, she DOES provide me with companionship, as does my entire family. I'm never lonely. If I'm feeling down, I can go play with my kids for a little while and I'll feel better. No matter how grumpy or blue I feel, my wife is always there to say she loves me and give me a hug. That's the best thing about having a family; there's always someone there who cares about you, which is something no MGTOW can ever hope to achieve.

VERY edgy!

Have some indoctrination for future Sharia while we're at it. Who is the one promoting this, who is the one covering it up? None other than the kikes, you wouldnt want to be racist would you goy?

You certainly can't defeat Jews by

Well lucky you. To the poster with such a great wife and family. I'm guessing you have a high income, and you are about 6 ft+

just a guess -rolls eyes-

so you're saying only retired men should get married, because women will cheat as soon as you leave for work

This is how I read that. Like…Such a kikey statement. Marriage isn't meant to be TRIED AGAIN AND AGAIN. Fuck that, I'll just have my kids with a qt3.14 even if I have to pay for it (surrogate kinda deal), thus fulfilling my evolutionary purpose.
Problem solved, and without getting looted by the niggers of gender.

Zionist Jews end goal is a new world order with Jews in control of everyone and everything. They don't want to completely eliminate whites. They might kill some whites as a stepping stone strategy to put whites under their control. You see what happened to Europe. National borders eroded and the European Union was formed. It's easier to control Europe now. They plan to do the same to other areas of the world.
Government run schools taught you gois well–to sacrifice your happiness and your lives for your tribe, country, and whatever else you're told. Who does it benefit? Just a few men at the top—so in essence patriarchy as OP says.

I'm starting to realize that anti-MGTOW posters are the real jews

sure thing shlomo

I have a high income now because I worked for it. When I met my wife I was a poor college student with average looks and had to fight off every chad in our age group. What really did the trick was I impressed her dad by working hard to get ahead. Please note that my wife was automatically from a better family than most because she HAD a dad. My father in law clued me into a lot of these things early on. He thought he was telling me insider information, but actually the techniques would work on nearly any family that isn't already fully degenerate. My father in law was a great guy, respected in the community and well-liked by nearly everybody, I miss him still.

That is a blatant oxymoron. It's like saying "virgin whores"
FYI: A cuck is a man that provides for another man's offspring. IE "me and my wife's son." MGTOW do not provide for any offspring at all.

Well what did you expect?, MGTOWfags even deny the reality of race and IQ.

I believe that there is a well organized scheme to make white nations subservient to Jewish interests. There is plenty of evidence for the same.

What there is no evidence for is for an organized plot to wipe out white people from the planet. Why on earth would the Jews wipe out their most productive slaves? There is no logic to it and sure enough when asked to provide real proof for this they failed

You are making this too easy jew.

Your whole little blackpill shilling operation is falling to pieces and this is the best you can come up with?

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No, they cheat because they're bored, idle, and their men don't pay attention to them, whereas Tyrone is always lurking, waiting to pay them attention as long as they drop their panties in return.

If you keep women busy, pay attention to them, and they only have free time when you're home, there's much less chance that they're going to give Tyrone the time of day. I thought this would be obvious but maybe I do need to spell out every detail to mgtow because of their autism.