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So… He was behind of it.

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Fuck off transhumanist kike. I will never accept your golems as life.

gee, I wonder if hitler really ever did enforce eugenics

Transhumanism is satanic and dysgenic. To replace our humanity with a fabricated reality goes against every law set by God and nature. Which is, therefore, against the very basis of fascism which is natural law applied to politics.

You idiots are why impregnating a woman's egg with dog sperm is considered an artform now.
Stop sowing or you won't like what you reap.

That's just a kike meme. Eugenics are a jewish/marxist invention to weaken the White race, Lysenkoism is the way to go, fellow White.

FULL RYE ALCHEMIST

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Transhumanism is the lazy way out, therefore, jewish.

Are you acting or are you honestly retarded?

Yet not even that would allow dicks and vaginas to turn into mayonnaise holes…


Now that Imkampfy is gone, let's talk about the MGTOW way and how kikes actually WANTS Whites to have White children and to be racist. You are a roastie if you disagree.

Transhumanism literally makes eugenics and dysgenics obselete by divorcing gene expression from selective pressures. If you can gene edit, you don't give two shits about hereditary genetics.

The fact of the matter is that your views simply don't matter. If chinks make themselves a race of 150IQ 7ft perfectly healthy supermen, there is fuck all you can do to compete other than getting in on the arms race. If the kikes develop AGI you better have your own up and running to fight theirs. Just like natural, wholesome hunter gatherer societies got brutally subsumed by agricultural ones, and agricultural ones fell to the industrial ones, those who enhance their competitive ability with machines will outcompete those who do not. This is simply natural selection.

Is this a philosophically unomfortable topic? Yes. Can we avoid it? No.

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Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>(((transhumanism)))

Hee, hee :^)
If tyrone modifies his skin pigmentation to be light he'll be white just like you! ==:^)==

Siding with soviets over the studies of monks and scientists.
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This. Come up with an answer to those who merge with machines, embrace it or go extinct.
Also

Trying to engineer white babies from two niggers is the ultimate cuckservative/liberal fantasy. Only problem is you can't synthesize the god gene missing from the parents.

Elon Musk is a literal African-American, and his businesses rely on government handouts to be financially stable.

wew

this user is right, transhumanism is the elites trying to attain godhood through our blood and sweat, we toil , they extend their lives and have the same goal as their master lucifer… to be gods on earth

Well, no, not really. Some branches of the movement are stupid as fuck (postgenderism = pink haired dykes), but it's not like that for others. Say, singularitarianism prophecies the emergence of artificial superintelligence that's gonna bring the age of prosperity to the mankind.

Truth. Still, the idea is that you can't simply transcend and still be the same ape who thinks that it's both possible and reasonable to control everything and everyone everywhere.

That would be true for Aryans but kikes would just turn into Goa'uld.

Hard to say. It's possible that all this childish crap that makes us constantly waste our true potential would be washed away in the process of becoming , no matter what one's heritage would be.

Still, it's just a theoretical concept, much like "true Aryans".

I've always seen humans becoming cyborg like no different than a cell gaining a proton pump or some kind of kinase for increased function/survivability/w.e.

I don't see how people being replaced by machinery like cars replaced horses is going to bring about prosperity. I'm picturing mass unemployment, civil unrest, and all of the wealth and power in the hands of the ones that own the AI.

Something gained, some lost. SF authors (also RPGs), futurologists, philosophers and other guys with way too much time on their hands proposed a concept, where "humanity" is a quality of finite amount, sort of a synergy between the body and mind.

So, each time you replace something in your body with an artificial element, you lose a bit of "humanity", to the point that you become uncaring, cold machine-like construct yourself.

There might be some truth to that. People with a shattered mind or those whores who get scalpel&laser treatment often have this look in their eyes - pure void and emptiness.

Neither do I. The replacement is more along the line of "our great mechanical leader", I think. As in: rather than an army of drones replacing us, we get a supercomputer who judges everything and everything and gives an infallible judgment.

There were plenty of works of fiction where such a creation was malevolent (Colossus, the Forbin Project). In others it was quite benevolent (Deus Ex/Stainless Steel Rat). There was a middle ground, where such an "overlord" became indifferent, gave us a few lectures and then committed digital sudoku because we weren't interesting enough for him (Golem XIV).

Eugenics started in England.

Nothing jewsy about its origins..

It's still a bright and curious field of research.

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Fuck off to gookchan, retard.

I know. Just pointing out how absurd shill screechings are.


Yep, shilling.


Read that one waaaay too often to be a coincidence. We know what kind of message (((they))) preach.

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Pretty much this and it isn't something you can ignore for a few more decades either, it's starting now. The international arms race has already started recently with AI. It's only going to escalate rapidly as everyone starts to comprehend its full potential and more creative ways to weaponize it.

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wat is this

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Pure coincidence, fellow Polacks! Israel is building a wall to secure its borders, hence securing borders is kicked!

Here's the thing about transhumanism, no matter fucking how advanced you become and how schway your chrome, someone will have to make those spare parts, someone will have to do the maintenance and someone will have to run the diagnostics. Without that special (((someone))), you're trapped in your transhuman body like in a prison, and that's my beef with it. Absolutely nobody can address this concern without handwaving it away with "we'll advance to NANOMACHINES SON, maintenance will happen automatically". Well that's lovely, but until that faithful day comes when you can be fully independent aryan transhuman ubermensch, you'll be someone's bitch and you'll always be one step away from being tossed out into a scrapyard.

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You're disregarding the possibility that the "arms race" inevitably leads to something surpassing its creators, something that can't be controlled by them and that "it" might in turn change the mankind according to its own visions of perfection.

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pretty okay album, this one is better though. sage for off topic.

Cyberware is just one of possibilities to enhance your body/mind. To name some: there's bio-tech (organs grown and implanted, or perhaps certain organs stimulated to grow in specific, more efficient way), chem-tech (drugs and similar chemicals that make your mind work better, a bit like in "Limitless" movie).

Point is: the idea is that you don't simply ad yourself a cyber hand 9000 just to jerk off 5x faster, but you implant all this shit to work better towards achieving the higher potential and ultimately finding a way to become without relying on artificial extension anymore.

tl;dr: -ware is just a phase, a Nietzschean-like bridge between us and

Eaten: "more". To become "more".

They're going to have to figure out a hell of a lot more about how organisms work, or it's going to inevitably end the same way as slapping a cold air intake and timing advance on a stock PT Cruiser.

Amazing response, brainlet

Enjoy the constant pain and eventual cancer from your Facebook brand neural implant, "smart guy".

Cyberware (and similar enhancements) is not to produce Street-Samurais running around with smartlink-controlled weaponry, slashing their enemies in half (ZA WARUDO! warcry totally optional) before they can even blink. That'd be the byproduct of the tech, not its goal.

The assumption is that you enhance yourself with -ware and gain more time, (and/or better, more efficient mind). You study more and unlock the way to become "more". With a better mind and a longer lifespan, "figure out a hell of a lot more" becomes more possible.

Personally, I'd still wait at least a few years and see how many "forward thinking" people get geeked by "mindware" written by pajeets.

Sure, there's gonna be helluva of problems - plenty of them already envisioned by certain SF writers (Cyberpunk, FTW). I'm more curious about the impact on the law, culture and social perception, though.

For example, pretty much every retirement policy is going to be totally fucked up by people living over 100 years. The religions are gonna address the problem of a Man+. The law might start to treat people as weaponry ("we have the right to legally dismantle you, Mr. Jones").

If the kikes stay in power you aren't living to 100. You'll end up with a killswitch that goes off the day you turn 30, more likely.

That's fantastic, but (((someone))) still has to implant that shit in you, (((someone))) still has to grow it and a most certain committee of (((someone))) will be the ones issuing the (((certifications))) for this shit, unless you're doing this yourself in some aryan mad scientist's underground laboratory. Until then, quit fucking dreaming about surpassing your weaknesses with some magical pill or gene or whatever the fuck else and embrace the uphill struggle against adversity, the battle against the entire world turned into a nightmare by a bunch of filthy yids.

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Gene editing and transhumanism are two very different things, some anons seem to be using these phrases interchangeably. Gene editing is far more sustainable because you don't need anyone special to maintain your body- your body does the maintenance because you are essentially just a human being, just with the best possible genetics.

I can't tell which are worse; AI are fags or transhumanistfags. They all see themselves as fucking visionaries precisely because they have no idea what it entails to actually achieve their goals, or how incredibly far we are from doing so.

Well, all I can say is that I'm sure none of us won't live to see the grand Ending. I hope it's gonna be the scenario where the wannabe-controllers are gonna learn (painfully) that their petty tactics and tricks were just children's game, and that they were never nowhere near the real power.

…something along the lines of "hi there, people, guess what the god you all wished for is here, it's me, and I'm gonna straighten you all up a bit, behold…" would be nice.

So what's your complaint?

There's no technology that wasn't used in ways its owners never thought about, I think. If so, there's no reason to think it's gonna be any different with any -ware.


The lack of possibilities to fly didn't stop people from dreaming about it and speculating about it. Thousands years later, lo and behold!

Let's just say that time and energy might be wasted for way worse things than futurism.

Yep. No shit. Same could be said for a kiked up industrial revolution. Transhumanism is an inevitability, AI is an inevitability, the nuclear arms race was an inevitability, all of these events are unavoidably going to occur. Whether or not we can pry the Jewish hand from the levers of power before or after they occur determines whether or not the world is irreversibly fucked by them.

How about robot bodies controlled remotely by remote human brain interface i.e advanced drones. That way you don't lose your humanity and don't have to worry about creating AI robots. Of course not for recreational use, but instead construction, space work, hazardous enviroments, deep sea exploration, war etc. I see way too little of this idea in Sci-Fi, the last that did it was fucking Avatar.

Idiots constantly shitting up threads with things that are never going to happen when or even close to the way they believe they will, but the belief is practically religious so they are immune to any form or reasoning and never shut the fuck up.


What kind of fucking excuse it that? How about not wasting it in a situation where we are fighting for survival?

Interesting concept - remote bodies would allow to conquer the stars with way less effort and casualties, especially if we were to develop some form of remote control that works in real-time (or close to it) over great distances.

The last thing discussing this stuff, aside of some Animu&Mango is RPG called Eclipse Phase, but I'd advise against anything more than reading some parts of it - its authors are total "against patriarchy" fags with the history of banning people who disagree with their opinions.


The only one you're entitled to and the only one you're gonna get from me.

Eugenics will always result in bugmanism. If you don't know what that is, read this: archive.fo/qTcVe

Genes are a very complex system. The way individual genes express in one person may manifest differently in another person. A gene that manifests as a positive trait in one person may manifest as a negative trait in another. The way these genes manifest may also be determined by environmental circumstances.

Eugenicists will start by promoting the curing of genetic disease like Huntington's disease to end human suffering. It is very difficult to argue against this, because who would want people, especially children, to suffer? But they won't stop at genetic diseases. They will move on to "social" diseases like murder and rape. All human behaviors are influenced by genes, including murder and rape. This, too, would be very difficult to argue against, because again, who would want murder and rape? But it is not so simple. Genes that affect behavior will express differently in different individuals based on environmental circumstances.

Take for example a man with genes that cause him to have a natural tendency to respond to conflict with violence. If a man with such tendency were to get in a heated argument with his wife or neighbor, he could potentially resort to violence and beat or kill them. We can all agree that this is a bad outcome. But imagine the same man in a scenario where he is being robbed, or fighting in a war. His nature to respond to things with violence would be very useful in such situations. A natural tendency towards violence may also not always result in actual violence. It could possibly express as general aggressiveness, assertiveness, or bravado, none of witch are inherently bad things. But what happens if you use eugenics and genetic engineering to remove this natural violence? It will result in a much more docile population. Too docile a population will not have the will to fight off an invading nation, like what is happening all across the Western World.

Yet another example is a man with genes that cause him to have a natural tendency to rape. He will have a much higher chance of committing a rape. But again, having that natural tendency does not guarantee that he will commit a rape. These genes might only express as him having higher than average sex drive than normal, or even just being more flirtatious with women. But again, what happens if you use eugenics and genetic engineering to remove this sexual behavior? It will result in a population with a much lower sex drive. A population with low sex drive will result in low birthrates, potentially disastrously so like in Japan or Germany. A man with a reduced sex drive may also be content with masturbating to pornography instead of pursuing real women.

You may think that you can improve humanity buy removing "defects" and "anti-social behavior, but if you attempt to remove all antisocial behaviors from people, you will eventually have a population with no behavior at all. You will be left with an docile, obedient, but intelligent population that that has no desire to do anything besides what the government tells it. You will have a population of men with no interest in doing anything but sit alone in their human hives consuming engeneered soy nutritional slurry and whatever electronic entertainment is provided for it. You will have created the clown world we have now, but ingrained and unfixable at the genetic level, instead of merely at the cultural level. You will have a society of bugmen. And it will never end.

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The possibility that "the correction" is not going to be malevolent can't be disqualified.

A watch for $0. I take 100 and resell them on Amazon.

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you cant attach a soul to silicon

shit op op kill yourself, what the fuck am i looking at

Well no fuck shit.

Say that to my face online and see what happens.

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The same thing can be said about the human body in its current state.
The fact of the matter is that scientific advancements are white in nature. No other race has contributed to the field as much as we have, because we possess the creativity and willpower to advance. It has always been the position of idiots and niggers that stepping forward is the product of dark magic, whether demons or fucking white voodoo.
Our issues are social breakdown and economical control from kikes, not how we scientifically advance. But unwarranted fear instilled by kikes takes hold and gets whites to fear advancement as well. Throughout time every fucking new advancement has been beaten with the evil stick, so that even though whites achieve it first other races get to benefit from it foremost.

ok, you cant attach a soul to silicon

I assure you that certain branches of transhumanism are only a few among many things I'm interested in.

Not that you care, of course. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded, amirite?

This. Kikes are just winning the race. Fascism and transhumanism are both desirable, both in alignment with natural order and infinite improvement of future generations.

Kikes are just achieving this through slavery and oppression of all non-kikes.

We won't get to enjoy it with them.

If any of you support this transhumanist shit, then you also don’t have the right to support traditionalism. This is new age bullshit. It’s against nature and takes the fun out of life, since it’s basically life on easy mode. Retards won’t be able to escape natural selection. Also, what do you think is gonna happens once the Jews and non whites get a hold of this. They’re gonna live longer and multiply

There's absolutely no reason to not be a conservative and still treat certain, specific elements of transhumanism seriously and agree with them.

Also, the assumption is that there's gonna be sort of "feedback" - our inventions change us, so there's no reason to believe that a singularity won't elevate us above this ridiculous, mental sandbox we're living in.

Just out of curiosity, what kind of material can you attach a soul onto?

Gorilla Glass.

there are no gods on earth
godhood is mans birthright

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This. Natsocs need to be at the forefront of this so that we can make sure that the technology is used for good rather than for decadence. If we leave it up to the kikes, they will just have everyone permanently hooked up to VR porn and Amazon™ Alexa electrostim prostate massagers. You can't stop technology, but you can choose how it is used. Instead of retreating and allowing the kikes to use it for evil, we must take over and use it to create truth and beauty.

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Agreeance
The next world struggle is in the realm of technology. The next Kursk against ruinous bolshevism will not be fought with tanks but with cybernetics and genetics. Acquire knowledge, intelligence, and skill to build your line, don't idly sit by while the weapons of the next great war are seized by the incompetent and the evil. We cannot risk our fortune and future without committing all available forces

We didn't even manage to solve the first.

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This is what transhumanists can never understand. They don't get that a genome is not plug and play, A gene will end up having an effect or being affected in trillions of completely different situations in the ordinary lives of billions of people and it must be robust enough to not be disruptive in any of them or you have in practice introduced a new hereditary disease into the population. There is not one gene of which we can say that we know every single situation where it will be activated and what all the results of such an activation are in every possible circumstance. To safely introduce a new gene you would have to be able to simulate precisely that and also how every other gene responds to the now different environment caused by the new gene. How will you know that the gene will not for example end up disrupting how the body manages lasting malnutrition, and that thus you're introduced something that will be a death sentence to basically all of humanity in the case of say global crop failure due to a mega volcano erupting?

That or you breed millions of human experiments and put them through every from of strife, stress, agony, suffering and also pleasure to see if the gene is safe for the wider population or if it causes horrible disease in any greater percentage, something what will be the norm as it is always orders of magnitude easier to create disorder than a new, higher, order in something that is already refined beyond human comprehension. Unless you are a kike this is a absolute nightmare.

TL;DR: The only reason we as organisms have such a robust genome is that we've been through every form of hell for hundred of millions of years and anyone with genes that made them not up for the task were unfailingly killed off by the cold universe. Unless you apply such a merciless selection to an engineered population, or your ability to simulate what effects a new gene will have is absolutely flawless, you will end up breeding in weakness and create a miserably frail creature that will be wiped away the instant he taken out of is warm bubble of well fed comfort and comes face to face with real hardship.

i swear to fuck you need to be culled you spam bot fuck

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what an improvement

An open mind does not get caught up in shitty pipe dreams of radically improving first something we hardly understand anything about and then something we literally do not understand at all.

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I want to laugh at all the idiots that think making a digital copy of themselves, thinking they'll be immortal. Your copy will be, but you are stuck in your body, YOU are your hardware that YOU were born with, your brain. Making a digital copy is basically cucking yourself of all your possessions and identity to your digital offspring. It's not you.

Man I am on a fucking roll this past week, Praise kek!

Somewhere along the line a stand must be made. Just because something is possible does not mean that it should be pursued, nor even allowed.
If everything of value is lost along the way, what would be the point?
Just more vanity and hedonism?
Fuck that.


It all depends on who is directing the effort.
Furthermore, balance is required. Perfection is a flawed concept. The idea is to improve, but with restraint and concientiousness.
Besides, choosing to do nothing is dysgenic.
Some form of positive selective pressure must be implemented to combat random mutation, if nothing else.


You know what happens when you assume.
Anything that seeks to "transcend" humanity is bullshit.
Eugenics is about better humans; better versions of ourselves.
Transhumanism is about "transcending" humanity and thus becoming no longer human. In other words, transhumanism is a form of suicidal genocidalism. It is a death cult.

Yes, and also no.
What is needed is White countries for White people and only White people.
Further plans can be made from there.
Without the realization of the 14 words everything will be lost anyway. White Nationalism is the foundation for a better future (or, indeed, any future at all) for White people. All else is secondary.


This is why gene editing is a mistake.
There is a far, far safer alternative.

Embryo screening.
Extract a few eggs from a woman (who wants a child) and fertilize them with her chosen man's (ideally husband) sperm and grow the zygotes in vitro for a bit. (This is already done in "fertility clinics" today) Then genetically screen the embryos and select one or two with the best genetic health. Put them into the woman to (hopefully) carry to term.
Over several generations this technique could greatly improve genetic health with little if any risk.
Eugenics the easy way.
Simply rolling the dice several times and choosing the best outcome.
Would involve none of the dangers of genetic engineering since nothing was being meddled with genetically.

I have a feeling you are talking straight out of your ass. You are just making assumptions.

Ching chong sham scam, low effort photoshop. Go fuck yourself OP.

Stanisalw Lem didn't proposed transhumanism it is quite opposite. In his works which had transcendent entities it was clear that there is nothing good about this for races who created these entities (they often turn against creators "kill everything Skynet, style") and for transcendent entities themselves. In The Star Diaries there is immortal race in the post scarcity society and they live very sad lives after achieving immorality.

Lem has wide discussion of the theory of science in the Summa Technologiae and again his is clear that just making AI that can solve problems that humans can't is a wrong strategy as this AI effective destroy humanity. His solution was “intelligence amplifier”, computing device that amplifies AI of humans. It is opposite to the transhumanism. As transhumanism is change of the humans but Lem insists on the preservation of human form.

Lem could be rasied as flag but other transhumanists who do it without much though about his works but Lem themselves is clear transhumanism alarmist, warning us about dangers of it.

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Why is everyone arguing about transhumanism. Is the free watch (((plus shipping))) going to turn me into a gay otherkin or something?

Here's the deal.

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Are you saying you want people to be bred like dogs? To be mere pets for the technocratic elites?

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I am saying this is possible and can be quite effective. And with gene editing it became even more powerful (though we still don't understand how it works just pocking stick in the dark). See advancements in the crops. Modern corps are insanely more productive than "natural" and even selected crops.

So argument "it doesn't works" is not applicable. Because it works very much. You need another argument. Like "it is immoral" (*communists laugh*).

just checked on that pic, feral nogs already fucked it up. can't keep anything nice.

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I never said it wouldn't work. I said we we shouldn't do it.
There is more to life than "productivity".

Do you wait for people to post fashwave so you can post that boring shit? How God damn pathetic.

This post says opposite. That it would moves user away from the desired goal.

Tell this to your shift manager.

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I would tell you to kill yourself if you weren't already spiritually dead.
I'm not talking about strands of protein, I'm talking about the degenration of higher concepts such as humanity. I pity you for being such as disgusting materialist.
Are you alive just because you're breathing? Absolutely disgusting.

So let's say your fantasies of 7ft tall aryan men comes about. First of all they wouldn't be men as we know it and second, to do what?
Start asking the question: to do what with. You're not arguing for survival here, because survival for survival sake is not an argument.
Much like money, survival is a mean to do something with. And all meaning is lost when you disfigure yourself to do absolutely nothing with your time.
To claim that we must disfigure our very nature for a competition that is not reality. Just a figment of your imagination.