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What do you think the age of consent should be?

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Age of Marriage is the one that needs to get lowered. And only for whites.

42, thats the answer

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You very well know that this thread is going to turn into another retarded pedo discussion thread where pedos get to spam their shit.
The biologically correct (and thus correct according to NS ideology) answer is 13 or thereabouts.

Age of Chivalry was a great mod.

this except no sage and 8

Can you explain your answer a little more? Why 8 and not 13? The age at which a girl starts becoming fertile is around 13, + or - 1 year.

AoC threads are a psyop to make Zig Forums look like pedo apologists
Do not engage pedos in debate
Sage and report

12 in a white minority country

18 in a 99% white country

This except without the sage, with no explanation, and 5.

'IF SHE BLEEDS SHE BREEDS

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8 makes no sense

This except with the sage, and pre-born fetus.

Fuck off pedo.

this on a site blacklisted by google for pedo shit

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males stay 18 AoC, only abolish AoC for females.
Hermaphrodites etc are counted as males

When puberty finishes.
Nature is not wrong on this.

Germany AoC has remained at 14 for ages, anglo puritans suck cock.

ok

bad idea because pedos
AoC 13 for girls 16 for men

R/K selection calls you a nigger.

care to explain?

Pedos trannies and kikes are why we fight the NWO.

SIEG HEIL BROTHERS! DAILY REMINDER THAT THE SS WAS THE LARGEST MULTIRACIAL ARMY IN HUMAN HISTORY.

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kill all christians

The SJWs are gonna call you a pedo of you want AoC lowered at 14.

Here is the trick: laugh at them.

never … all men should go MGTOW once born

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t. feminist who wants to stifle the discussion to preserve her sexual market value. If Zig Forums was supposed to give a shit about this kind of PRcucking there wouldn't be this many National Socialists here to begin with.

Pedos, kikes and lefty faggots think that by spamming our board they will dilute the culture. Wrong. The opposite is happening. We are more hardcore and focused than ever in support of the family unit and white civilization.

SIEG HEIL!

I hope you're being dumb on purpose. You can still be K selected with a young wife.

Fucking this. We dox pedos not debate their child abuse. Go fuck someone your own size you psychotic abusive cunts.

Fuck off to reddit then

t. SJW

"The Nazis passed other laws that targeted sex offenders. In 1933, they enacted the Law Against Dangerous Habitual Criminals and Measures for Protection and Recovery. This law gave German judges the power to order compulsory castrations in cases involving rape, defilement, illicit sex acts with children (Paragraph 176), coercion to commit sex offenses (paragraph 177), the committing of indecent acts in public including homosexual acts (paragraph 183), murder or manslaughter of a victim (paragraphs 223­226), if they were committed to arouse or gratify the sex drive, or homosexual acts with boys under 14. "

AoC is a psyop
Neither fascism nor National Socialism condone pedophilia

Read the last two words of the excerpt you posted. As mentioned earlier, Germany set the AoC at 14, which would be considered pedophilia by the standards of modern burgerstan. Obviously modern burgerstan is wrong about this and virtually everything else. There are some people here who want to lower the AoC too much, but the fact remains that the laws in the US are completely unreasonable and are doing more than almost anything else to destroy marriage and relationships. No guy who's worth anything wants to settle for a used-up roastie. Nature mandated that guys would want teenage girls the most, and there's nothing wrong with having a thread to discuss this except in the eyes of boomer faggots, feminists and thots trying to fool guys into thinking they're based trad women.

There's young and then there's 13.
I hope your only pretending to be a pervert.
But i doubt it.
kys

Like I said, you can enforce K selection with a young wife.

What do the rabbis have to say about it?

I don't know how it was in the third reich, but these days in germany the AoC laws are staggered, where if you are above 14, you can have sex with somebody up to the age of 18 or something, then at 16 you can have sex with somebody up to the age of 21 or something thereabouts, then at 18 you're free to go with whoever you want.

I think it should be up to the father to decide if his little girl is read or not for marriage. AoC laws came into existence because Jews and women successfully undermined the position of the patriarch by abolishing coverture in the mid XIX century. That was the turning point for Western civilization from which every modern degeneracy derives. AoC are a bad idea because different women reach maturity in different time. Some are ready for marriage by 14 and some by 17. It should be father's decision to make as his kids (as well as his wife) should be his property.

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The way it works there is that 14 can go up to 21 and then 16 can go with whoever, but even if you're over 21 and you have sex with a 14-year-old, you can only be prosecuted for it if her parents complain.

There should still be a hard lower limit to help mitigate pedophilia. According to a random guy on this forum forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=28706 the AoC in NS Germany was likely 14, in other words a reasonable number.

I agree with you, 14 years old seems like a reasonable number.

I'd prefer the hard lower limit approach (with the limit set at a reasonable number) over letting the parents decide, because the problem with having it be decided by the parents is that sometimes you get parents like the boomers, who subscribed to the media panic more than any other generation and rejected perfectly good guys from being with their daughters just because they were a few years older - usually less than 5 years older. This is arguably the biggest cause of why millennials aren't married or in relationships and almost nobody wants to talk about it.

reasonable number hivemind

The prudery of the US is an entirely different matter to pedos wanting to marry 8 year olds. The slippery slope is real, the way homosexuality has developed in the West Shows this. Relenting on "just a few years" gives pedos a precedent to demand an ever lower age in tandem with Muslims and niggers ("Muh culcha")

The staggered AoC in Europa serves to protect kids from being charged of sexual deviance themselves when they act like retarded kids send each other nudes. It does not concern grown ups.

Anyone who was around after the first exodus should remember the massive pedo spam on this board to make us look like freaks. Same tactics apply now. Do not engage pedophiles.

ITT: two kikes

Having a staggered AoC makes no sense and prevents legitimate relationships from forming, which leads to the fucked situation the millennials are in. Making tyrannical laws just to stop SJWs when the SJWs should be gassed anyway is throwing out the good along with the bad.

So are we fine with AoC being lowered at 14 or not?

R/K selection is a general breeding strategy that living creatures engage in.

R selected species typically have high mortality rates. They survive by breeding young (because they may not live long anyway) producing numerous offspring with low parental investment, high promiscuity and rapid maturation. R=Rodents is a good way of thinking of it. R selection has penalties, although their maturation is rapid they tend to have poor function as adults, especially IQ in many cases because the brain takes time to develop and learn.

K selected species are the opposite. They tend to have lower mortality, produce fewer offspring, have prolonged childhoods and delayed maturation, have strong family bonds with low promiscuity, more stable and elaborate social structures and higher level of function at maturity. Especially IQ. The problem is that K selection is vulnerable to sudden periods of high mortality, especially of children: Epidemics of disease, massive war, famine etc…

R/K selection is a spectrum rather than an absolute 100% R or K, but all species that procreate fit on the scale. Its not infallible and there are exceptions and variations from this basic pattern but as a general guide its pretty good.
All groups of humans are heavily K selected. But not all to the same degree. I think Japs are the most K selected although there are social factors there also. The other polarity are niggers. (promiscuous, more rapid maturation, stupid, high mortality etc…).
K selection is a requirement for stable families and more sophisticated societies. (higher IQ, low promiscuity, high parental investment etc…).

R selection is quantity over quality.
K selection is quality over quantity.

By suggesting 13 as a suitable age for a girl to marry and procreate op was encouraging us to become more or less R selected and thus like niggers. Its not quite as cut and dried as that, but the idea that 'if shes old enough to bleed shes fair game!' will inevitably result in selection of girls that mature more quickly and procreate younger. The other factors may not be present initially but over time they will be. Its generally a package deal.

13-15 year olds are not physically mature. (low birth weight babies, miscarriage).

The counter the child fucker op will come out with will probably be an appeal to history "but they married young in the before times!".

The problem with this is that we may have done a lot of things in the past, especially in periods of increased child mortality but that doesnt make them automatically good ideas. There are pretty clear consequences in procreating young as a societal norm. Op seems to think they dont matter because 'muh dik'.

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There is no such thing as a legitimate relationship between a 14 year old and a grown up. Anyone who has been around kids of that age understands that. If you truly desire a relationship with someone of that age you must be developmentally retarded in the truest sense of the word.

Hello mike.

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I've been around a lot of adults who were no more mature than any of the 14-year-olds I've met.

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I don't think you've been around that many teen girls. By 14-15 years old, they already are thinking about sex and relationships. In fact that's probably the only thing that's constantly on their mind. Most girls by that point already had boyfriends and some sexual experience behind them. Those boyfriends usually are a year or so older than them.

Western society has been infantilized due to Jewish meddling. See nu-males, soyboys and before that metrosexuals and hipsters. It's sad and disruptive but irrelevant to the topic of AoC. The everyday reality of a teenager is vastly different from someone who actually has to take responsibility for himself.

A year, NOT TEN OR TWENTY, as the pedos would like.

I've actually read that the amount of teen sex has gone down. I don't know if that's true or not, but the statement that most girls at 14 have already had sex is going to need some citation. But the fact that they're looking for boys isn't in doubt.

No consistency on Age Laws? So no idea?:
Obamacare; 26 (on parents Ins until then)
Gamble; 21, Alcohol; 21, Pistol; 21 (Rifle 21 now in some areas) Elected Office; 18-21
Child Support; 17-21
Vote; 18, Military; 18
Drive; 14.5-17
Work; 14-16
FaceBook; 13
Disown Family; At any age
AoC should be the same responsibility as other Age Laws, pick one.

What justification do you have to outlaw 10 or 20 year age gaps, or any other number of years? You not liking it isn't a good enough reason, and a lot of millennial guys are going to be pursuing that because boomer asshole parents often didn't allow them to pursue relationships with teenage girls even when they were teenagers.

Maybe my country is more degenerate than most, and that screwed my reasoning regarding teen girls and their promiscuous ways but here's the data collected by the University of Southampton. As you can see most girls lose their virginity in the 16-18 age bracket with almost 20% doing it even earlier in age 15 and lower. However, we have to remember that those stats are self-reported and thus prone to error or bias. Girls don't like to be labelled as sluts that much, and losing you virginity very early usually is an indicator of being a whore. Combine those date with the average marriage age and it's an recipe for disaster.

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In the case of europe that might simply be because the insane amounts of mudslimes in the lower age brackets. They're more "conservative" and have started to become an ever larger part of the teens and children, so even if the native population stays or becomes even more sexually active, that might still result in an overall lowering of sexual activity.

Here's an excerpt from the "SS Race Theory and Mate Selection Guidelines". Points 1 and 2 are relevant.

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The same reason teachers aren't allowed to engage in relationships with their pupils. The age gap creates a massive intellectual and power imbalance that is very likely to lead to abuse. There is also very little overlap in interests between the partners, apart from sex. I certainly would not want a 15 year old or so to become a mother, that will lead to tons of problems for the kid and the parents.

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There are probably many ways to interpret these two statements. Previously in this thread I said 13 or 14 was a good idea for AoC (which is biologically acceptable), but from a societal point of view that would lead to the increased proliferation of sexual activity before marriage, and thus the rise of degeneracy. I think that 16 is a good choice for both AoC and minimum marriage age, but no higher than that.

Kill all pedos.

Women can't consent because they are stupid. You need to ask the father for permission to date their daughter. If you get permission, you should refrain from sex until marriage, though if you are absolutely certain you will be getting married, premarital is ok. Just hurry up.

AoC is a trap created to cause women to be less likely to breed with upstanding white men and more likely to breed with animals. Niggers don't care about AoC laws. They generally aren't even enforced against them. Only against white men.

There's no evidence of any intellectual or power imbalance that you couldn't find in any other kind of relationship. No one who says this has ever been able to tell us anything concrete about what sort of powers are lacking in the younger party, and there's actually a good deal of research showing that teenagers are no less cognitively developed than adults. Here's an example.

Mike Males describes this study: "Northwestern University psychiatrist Daniel Offer, the nation’s leading researcher on adolescents, studied 30,000 teenagers and adults from the 1960s to the 1990s. He and his colleagues found 85% to 90% of teens held attitudes and risk perceptions similar to that of their parents, were not alienated, did think about the future, were coping well with their lives, and did not display psychological disturbances. "Decision making for adults is no different than decision making among teenagers,” Offer reported in 1987 in the Journal of the American Medical Association."

So just let her have sex using birth control until she's ready

Fuck off rabbi , noone wants to buy your circumcisions you cunt

1. AoC doesn't solve anything, after all Europe has lower AoC than America, yet it remains less rape-y than America until Europe brought in the muslim turks.

2. The actual pedos in government give no shit about laws, no, they will flaunt upon your fucking faces and you can't do anything against them.

3. r/K selection theory has no effect on AoC either, you can marry a 14 year old, NOT HAVE SEX with her, instead teach her proper etiquettes and femininity, then have sex with her when she's willing/at age. This has been a thing for ages.

4. Japan has an AoC of 13 year old. (Nazi) Germany is 14.

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You didn't qualify that with Whites marrying Whites, aka you left in race mixing.

Interesting study although I'd argue that a teenager in the 60s and 70s was much less retarded than the average millennial today. Could be confirmation bias, of course, but I'm not the only one who makes that observation. People starting university today are barely able to cope with the university environment (despite it already pandering to idiots).

At the very least puberty is a time when teens go through so many psychological changes that any relationship regardless of age won't last very long. Remember: Romeo and Juliet are supposed to be around 15-16 in the play. That sort of dramatic shit they pull is typical of teenage relationships (apart from the suicide thing).

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If you're going to talk about one group's level of intelligence versus another, you should talk about the idea of a sex test. That would probably be the ultimate method of making it fair, but the people who support the current laws hate the idea because it would force them to actually prove their claims about teenagers being too immature to make decisions.

Girls above the age of 13 should be fit for marriage and sex. Though ultimately the choice should depend on the parents, not the government.

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12 for teens
16 for young adults
20 for adults

prove me wrong

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dumbass

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OH BOY HERE WE GO AGAIN!

As is is almost every country. United States of Israel is the only country where "people" unironically say "anything under 16 is immoral" and suchs. Also the only where people would die for Israel kek.

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what is wrong with it?

Point and laugh at this child.


Did you really brought out the tor just to back up your own non-sensical post?

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All of these jews want to lower the age of consent so they can invite their shitskin pets to creep on daughters and relatives

I think 14 should be the lower limit for sexual activity of any kind (groping etc.), and 16 should be the minimum age for sexual intercourse and marriage.
Having sexual intercourse at too young an age is degenerate because it doesn't lead to the production of children, happening solely for pleasure. The couple isn't likely to stay together and get married.
14 or older is not pedophilia.

You're fucking new here. Go back.

America already has a shitload of rapes, despite the high AoC.

Niggers don't give no shit about laws.

More like 19-20.

These discussions are pushed to allow legal protection for paedos.

19-20 is way too old and the laws will just be casually broken to such a high degree that they are unenforceable. 16 is better. see and

And shitskin grooming gangs if kikes get their way and allow more rapeugees into the country.

Because you have no interest in debate; not everything CAN be debated.

Perversion being among the highest; the damage done to the children involved, the paedos themselves often being unusable even as cannon fodder; it's physical injuries as plague.

A horrific cycle which must be ended by any reasonable means.

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arranged marriage?

I'm British; 16 is VERY rare .

Most people date within their age group and it's rare to see a 16 year old in a relationship with anyone above 18.

Most of you are basically quoting UK law; which is 13 "absolute minimum" if the (typically male) is 14, and the same for a 14 year old through to 16.

It's illegal for anybody over the age of 18 to date someone under the age of 16.

This is the same in places like Canada, or Australia; the USA has a Federal system but individual states tend to be the same.

"grooming" is a perversion of language.

Brutal beatings, blackmail and abduction are NOT grooming.

I meant that it's up to parents to choose when their daughters are allowed to start fucking, but by default the legal age should be 13.