The REAL way to get women on our side

The attached picture is the hierarchy of how men are judged by women.
We all know women are not tribal creatures like men and so they will not join a NatSoc movement through tribal loyalty - HOWEVER, they WOULD join if it was filled with physically fit, attractive young men. This is a huge bonus, as more attractive men = more attractive women =‘s more men joining, and so on.
Now I’m not saying everyone has to be a chad, but attractiveness is essentially everything. More attractive men are more successful, perceived better in all aspects and are treated better by everyone - this is just a harsh fact of life.
If you work to become the most attractive you can (physically mainly) our message will be spread further, actually be listened to by women and this can only be good for the cause.
Not to mention being physically fit and looking after yourself is good for you.
This is the ONLY way we can get most women on our side, we must become the best we can be PHYSICALLY. Physical attractiveness is key over everything else.

Now I’m not saying be a metrosexual, be a honourable national socialist male but also be the most physically attractive and fittest you can make yourself, personality does not matter AT ALL when you’re physically attractive.

Do it for yourself and your race.

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What do you mean? People won't join because I've obviously BTFO people with my cool arguments?
No way!

also sage

While I don't agree that face is everything, I do agree that you will convert more women just by being attractive than by any other means. See you in /fraud/.

May as well get normalfags too, ""tradcuck"".

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using redpilled pussycat sluts to convert bluepilled numales to natsoc with fikifiki, sounds fun but will never happen. they dont work like that.

Historically, normalfags just want to be left alone and live their lives according to whatever happens to be the social norms. The will to power does not exist in normalfags, although they do make excellent cannon fodder if you can get them to sign up. But it will always be a small group that has the will to power and rises up to seize power and, with that power, command the apathetic masses to become their soldiers.

It's a waste of time red pilling women directly. Concentrate entirely on men, and then when men are very interested - all the women will follow to gain attention. Such has been every male hobby and interest since the dawno f time.

There is a direct correlation between being physically strong and competent, and being 'right-wing'. Despite this women are overwhelmingly left-wing. In other words your theory is shit and you should feel bad.

The way to get women on our side is to win. Women do not fight against the current, if there is significant resistance they step in line quicker than you would ever imagine. Seriously next time a bitch tries to push you around just put your foot down and you'll be amazed. … As a sort of aside I've been listening to a load of 'creepy stories' on youtube of late, and one thing I couldn't help but notice is how the women were always obedient to their stalkers and the creepy fuckers trying to abuse them, despite hating them. Now I am not at all saying we should be creeps or abuse women; I am just making the point that women are fucking weak and will bow to whatever they perceive as being strong.

We are acting in their best interests by saving the West. We need to focus on doing our thing, and they will come as soon as its obvious that we will win. It is already becoming increasingly more likely that we are going to win; and I'm sure you've all noticed a huge spike in the amount of anti-SJW women. Just go on youtube and you'll be assaulted by a ton of daft whores trying to court us by virtue signalling about our ideology. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what they think or whether we do anything for them; they will side with whoever is the strongest, whoever looks like they're going to win. We just need to make sure we are victorious.

Perfectly put.

Everyone involved in politics is fat in my country

You're right that women will follow strength and influence.
However, you seem to be putting women as the end goal here. You're still blue pilled in your view on women.
We shouldn't care whether women follow us or not. We should care about being right and being righteous.
Women who would follow should follow under their own desire, and when they do, we demand the standards we expect.
They enter of their own choice, with an understanding that they need to be of our standards before they even approach us.

What you're suggesting is what we already have:

Either, we as men lead and later ALLOW women to be with us, or they'll take it over because they never had any standards to live up to.

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This sums it up nicely enough.

Here's a winner. Op is a faggot.

In the post no fault divorce alimony slavery world.

Those of you saying that women is the end goal - this isn’t true. Being “hot” means attractive women will want to associate themselves with you, and then where there are attractive women, men flock. Hence this is a good thing.

I didn’t say to redpill women at all, this is impossible for 95% of women and impractical. They don’t care about the ideology, they care about being around strong attractive men.

Of course I’m saying don’t ONLY do this, also spread our propaganda focused at males, but this is the way to get females on our side.

Also to the guy who said that we shouldn’t bother cause “women are stupid whores lol”
You’re either a fucking idiot or a Jew. Men and women are a unit and work together, you’re just dividing people.

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This is tradcuck at its best.
Enough buepill bullshit faggot.
Men who respect themselves don't give a fuck about what whores think.

What women like about Chad isn't just face and body, but the social dominance and confidence/charisma that often come with good physical appearance. Looksmaxing/bodymaxing alone might get you girls from time to time, but without the right attitude, these girls will be mostly shit quality, and you'll likely get cheated on. If you want to influence a lot of women, you need charisma to go with looks.


I agree with this, but mainly because being physically fit and having a good appearance produces strong feedback effects that boost your confidence and dominance.


I don't agree at all. EVERY male characteristic that women find attractive can be reduced to how socially dominant he is.

1. Face -> high testosterone -> dominant personality
2. Height -> intimidating to men -> dominance
3. Money -> dominance for obvious reasons
4. Status -> duh

Personality/charisma is what ties everything together. The idea is that if a man possesses a good mix of the traits 1-4 above, it is expected that he will behave in a way that reflects his high quality. This means that even if you aren't particularly rich or good looking, you can still bang/influence hot women by behaving as if you are. The corollary to this is that if a man is rich, or good looking, or has high status, but lacks the charismatic personality, he will only have sporadic success, and likely be the beta chump who gets cheated on. This is because a meek personality betrays a beta soul. A woman might be initially dazzled by the rich playboy and maybe he'll get to bang her, but will quickly bore of him if he demonstrates needy behavior. If his personality is not congruent with his looks/money/status, her instinct will cause her to cast doubt on the man.

But ultimately I agree with you. For the average man, it's much easier to develop a good physique and at least a well-groomed appearance than it is to achieve money (the kind of money that turns womens' heads) or status. I would just add that he also needs to work on his charisma.

You're not going to win, politically or otherwise without the masses on your side. Since women now make up the majority of the vote, if you want to change anything you'll want to get them on board

You don't win women to your side through attractiveness.

Women are conformist and want to adhere to socially correct behavior. Women also want safety and stability, and thus respond to strength and whatever helps get them kids. Thai is how they are biologically programmed to act. They will always socially conform above all else though - in a Natsoc government they will be vehemently Natsoc, in a Zionist Occupation Government they will be batsgit feminists, etc.

This.
And because women don’t care about ideology, they would rather vote for / be around a party/group of strong attractive men over some fat jewess or ugly fat man.

We already have all the good women helping to make the world a better place.

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Once they realize white womenz are on the chopping block as well, they begin to change their tune.

You're not going to win by vote in any case.

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Faceandlms is that incels.me poster?

Face and Looks, Money, Status
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women are the enemy, there are no good women ,we need artificial wombs or there will no next generation

Sure, but it all matter on how they join us.
If we do these things with women as our end goal, then we're essentially doing everything for them. Which gives them the power.
As opposed to, us being right and righteous, being something they WANT to follow. Something they want to surrender to, of their own accord.
Yes, improve yourself. Yes, be healthy. Yes, do good work and try to live a good life.
But do these things because you believe in them and want to be that kind of man.
It's one woman at a time, one household at a time. For now anyway. If it comes to violence, then all bets are off, which is simply another reason to be fit, active and strong.

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Whatcha doing rabbi?

The user is right, women like it or not, behave as opponents and are hostile to men's authority.
They are unable to sustain our civilization and want to take over.
Knowingly or not, women are the willing kike's soldiers.
To get involved with women means to play the system's game and financial ruin.
And to put the female genie back into the bottle will be imposible without prior ZOG removal, and this is a fact.

We have to seize control of the money printing machines from the Fed.

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I agree with you, but
I want that meme to die already. It gives muslims a connecting factor they don't deserve. Just because we try to restore the natural relation between the sexes and our ancient community of values we don't have to chum up to some sandnigger desert belief.

And we don't, because your assumption of the meaning of White Sharia is false.
White Sharia is "Coverture", women are our property and we as men have the right to discipline them.
This have been our tradition for centuries. And there is nothing new about that.

All is lost. Give up now. There's no point in even trying. Suicide is best, or if nothing else, literally bowing to the Jew. Let's just submit. It might just be best if we stopped being alt-right, and decided to forward the typical multicultural agenda. What's really wrong with being a leftist anyways? What's wrong with being a Christian?

If you can't be a Jew, you can still be Christian. Just worship the king of the Jews and Yahweh, the Judaic god, and maybe you'll become immortal in heaven, even if you're not actually one of the "chosen people."

The holocaust was a terrible event, so let's just respect Jews and give them their victory. Jews won WWII after Hitler murdered so many Jews, and with such evil in his heart, how can you be so sure that you aren't evil too? Instead of killing Jews, let's invite them into our homes and pay reparations to them. It's fine to be Muslim too. They also believe in the Torah, so they'd be one of us if you're a Christian. We all have nearly the same religion, and of course, the results are the same in the end.

It all is subverted and becomes good and just: Anyone with our religions end up progressing into multicultural liberalism at some point, and losing the foolish ways of their ancestors. Lose your pride, and lose your cultural identity. Be an individual. Be yourself. Alone.

It's best to just become a mainstream Christian liberal, and give up on this whole alt-right business. Don't worry about breeding. Just enjoy your life and have lots of degenerate, non-procreative sex. Sluts are friends. It's good that they're on the pill and don't want to become mothers. Just think of all the sex you can have with no troublesome offspring to bother with!

Lose your will and submit. Join my religion and stop being alt-right.

DO IT NOW. OBEY ME!

And yet you do when you call it white sharia. The adjective doesn't negate the proximity to dune coons and unnecessarily gives them a foot in the door to keep their ZOG endowed influence in european countries.
I will gladly help you to restore our traditional values and keep women in check but I abhor any muslim related label and get the feeling you will surreptitiously advocate for shitskins by insisting to stick to it.

Fuck off shitskin.

TorPedo being sarcastic.

Checked. Why use "White Sharia" with it's reference to sandniggers when White's already have pic related.

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white sharia is MGTOW.

That graph is completely wrong.

Thanks to Jews, not by their nature.
You’re talking about the Jews there rabbi.

No.
MGTOW is about not to play a rigged game.
White Sharia is a return to our ancestral traditions.
Many anons now acknowledge this meme is not related to sandnigger sharia at all, but others insist to.
If White Sharia, or Coverture, is put in place, most MGTOW will come back to the game of relationships with women, for sure.

Are you saying women are able to sustain a civilization?

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Women don’t give an fuck about the ideology of the government. If a 10/10 male wore a nazi armband and went up to the biggest feminist ever she would STILL fuck him and would happily change their ideology to be with him - because they DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT IDEOLOGY.

They are liberal tier faggots. Real Sharia followers welding AK-47s will wipe them form the face of the Earth in no time.

Went to an amish zoo before accidentally, they are the nicest people iv ever met.
Sat in this wooden wagon pulled by a horse and fed this large bucket of animal food to ostridges, lama and moose. Don't ask me how the amish people got their hands on ostridges I have no idea. Anyways the entire time on this wagon ride the amish man praised us for being with him and he praised the animals for being alive or whatever. He only sometimes talked about religion but when he did it was very uplifting bible quotes. When the ride was over we explored the rest of the zoo and we ran into the amish mans kids. They greeted us very kindly and showed us some baby chickens that where just born. Today's societies mothers cant even dream of having kids so kindhearted and disciplined.
After the zoo we made sandwiches at a nearby park with benches and tables. Three amish family's soon also came to eat lunch at the same park. What was so odd at the time is that the women the children and the men all sat at different tables. They also noticed the awkward cultural clash and they offered us to sit with them. In respect we all sat in the correct divided tables. All the men where very nice they talked about farming and religion and family values. The women seemed to talk about the same things other than the topic of clothing I could hear came up and all the kids at the kids table seemed to be all enjoying themselves. After eating mine and their family's kids ran and played on the playground together. Just everyone was absolutely happy it was bliss. Their was no topics of world war 3 bull shit, no political boogeymen of evil, no feminist whore guilt tripping and since they dont own phones their was no eyes glued to social bull shit media facebook twitter absolute garbage to feed them lies and propaganda with. It was pure happiness.
Mark my words, if all the other white men fail to save america somehow the amish will prevail.

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This.
It's all about social dominance. Face, height, money and build are all just indications of high status.
Girls want the big dick in the community metaphorically and literally. Charisma matters a lot on an ingrained psychological level because even chimps will willingly be subordinate to an alpha chimp that helps the population get along. The charismatic chimp is more attractive than the tyrant that bullies everyone because he will soon be dethroned by two other chimps sick of his shit. Being a tyrant is intrinsically unstable thus exposing his concubines in jeopardy. Hence a real Chad isn't a douchebag, but optimistic and confident with his diplomatic reconciliations.

Women are staunch adherers to tribe mentality, not to ideology. They've been programmed to submit to whatever group's ideology is popular to ensure their acceptance within it so they won't be forsaken into the wilderness where they would surely die.
Women latch onto and reinforce the dominant culture. They are the shield maidens of a culture, not the charging calvary unit. It's men that take risks to go their own way to make a new culture and once it grains prominence and proves itself superior the women come.

I hope so. Them and the Mennonites are some of the nicest people I've ever met and done business with. Such large, loving and traditional families as you said. I'm a little envious of them to be honest.

Amish are 100% equivalent of city liebrals who preach that state oppresses them but when niggers come to tob them they cry
Amish is free riders of society that protects them from sea of shitskins, now armed with marvels of technology. If all the other white men fail to save america somehow the amish daughters would be rape meat.

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You need to be neck maxing. 18" neck is ideal (lean, not fat). 16-17" is okay but could be improved. Neck less than 16" and you might as well kill yourself.

Should be greater than 18"

Absolutely, their just so simple and happy.

Bull shit city liebrals dont know fuck stick about family values and dont know how to spell the word "Jesus".
Also I know for a fact the amish are armed. I remember one of them talking about shooting some wolf or something that was trying to eat their live stock. If the amish daughters where attacked I know for a fact their family values are to defend one another. How successful they would be however is infact questionable in an scenario of war or something.
I cant find a flaw in having a small group of whites rejecting modern propaganda programming,rejecting toxic fast food and snack chemicals, rejecting depression/anxiety pills, rejecting modern social feminized pussy construct and rejecting nonreligious atheist degeneration.
They are the equivalent of a literal and physical white man backup.

false

Mennonites and Amish live in dangerous places of South America as well. They stick together and take care of outsider thieves etc.

I'm the guy who linked the pic, so I'll note that I don't like the term "white sharia" for the same reasons you don't, however, I appreciate how effectively it communicates the concept of "men before women".
I don't think it's too problematic of a term really. But I personally avoid it in discussions, but since I didn't make the image, I didn't find it too troublesome a term for me to not share it.

With tanks and artillery?
Sorry. In the industrial world you need to play industrial games too. Of find a man who plays industrial games and kindly let you be his wife.

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You get it.

One larping thot will bring in like a thousand new dudes, though. We have seen this.

Well then good thing its only a worst case scenario.
I still dont see the major flaw in a very small group of whites rejecting modern day bull shit.
Lets agree to disagree and be on our ways with it.

I'm going to Brazil to find and marry an aryan natsoc woman.

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no one is white goy

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No it isn’t. If her boss was a short, fat ugly billionaire who was president of the world and there was a 10/10 dustbin man, she would fuck the dustbin man person in a heartbeat and she wouldn’t have feelings for the boss.

No, they’re indicators of good, healthy genetics.

The average woman of today is not worthy of a man. Women should be thinking about how they can make themselves more attractive to men.

Can anyone explain to me the last arrow (pointing down) please?

I'm fat-fit, but leaning down currently to fit-fit (lost 12 pounds last month, currently doing a self-imposed 4 month boot camp). I have naturally good musculature, broad shoulders, decent bone structure etc. I know I could easily pass for a 7/10 as far as guys go (well, I think, since I don't exactly look at men the way women do). In the way men see men, I'd say I'd be a 7/10, maybe 8/10 when the fat is gone. I have nearly ever skill necessary to be self-sufficient. Thing is, I have no desire to be wanted by women, nor any desire to seek companionship. I don't want to be seen as attractive. I don't want to be annoyed. I want to be alone. I actually enjoy dwelling on the negative aspects of women just to keep myself from wanting to be with a woman. What do, Zig Forums?

That looks like a tranny.

A bunch of pacifistic faggots who'd be conquered, raped, enslaved, and killed if the rest of us didn't exist to stave off invaders. Pacifism and altruism are terrible things.

This is why memetics are important

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It's your job to be the man that women improve themselves for.

Your wives and girlfriends are on your side. Your daughters will be on your side. The right people will be attracted to the cause for the right reasons. Honestly, choosing a partner solely based off of physical appearance is the callsign of a bluepilled thot that you should probably avoid anyway.

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Then it's time to rectify this fucking mistake, and sooner or later it's going to happen by either us or the shitskins that women are voting to replace us with. Having grown children make up the majority of our voting base has not once ever worked in our favor, and the kikes are loving every goddamned minute of it.

The only arguments in favor of women being able to vote are "muh equality" and other emotional, moralistic, Zig Forums dreck. We tried this social experiment and it's failed more miserably than any other in the history of humankind.

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100% correct, and on that note I'd like to point out that the female tendency to adhere to the views and opinions of the strong is precisely why rainbowhairs and hamplanets (the weakest women in all attributes) support the mudslime religion despite it being clearly in opposition to the muh equality the harpies screech about. The cuckening of nu-males through soy-saturated foods and brainless media was a calculated move on the kikes' part to make the thuggish towelheads appear that much more stronger to the common woman, and accelerate race-mixing.

This type of circular reasoning is the basis for a lot of feminist ideology. Only a woman or a paypig/provider would even make such an argument.

The better question is, what the fuck reason does a Reel Man™ have to spend so much of his time and money on a woman? An aging pussy that he gets to use when she feels like it? Kids that she legally owns and she can take away from him if she finds a better Reel Man™, which happens over 50% of the time?

If he's REALLY such a desirable man (and not a beta male making a business contract because it's the only way he can get laid), he can fuck a new young woman every day of the week with no strings attached if he so chooses. No need to throw away all of his free time and assets for a lifelong legal commitment.

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Attached pic is solid proof that women do not give a shit about the man’s morals, personality or ideology. They ONLY care about looks.

Let’s use this to our advantage.

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The answer to recruiting women into National Socialism, is Savitri Devi.

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They're mostly going to be low quality who in turn will shill their favorite larping e-celeb, quality is important.


This needs to be us.

I don't give a SHIT about women.

Fuck them.

They shall be raped and killed as they deserve.

Now ban me, faggots.

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News flash: The Turkroach is gone.

interdasting

Not being a revolting blob is a part of it but the crux is the lost desire to have children, the lost desire to want dolls(children) to dress and form that look like themselves, that they see themselves in, live vicariously through. Why do you think a big drive by jews is to get women to hate motherhood and children? It's the key.

might as well let the shill think he's derailed conspiracy discussion and been virtuous the process. They need to tell themselves something positive after all.

(((Khazar communists))) murdered more Christians in the (((Soviet Union))) and Adolph knew this, search "Holodomora' and "gulags"…

Am I correct in suspecting your country is a leftist shithole?

Public fuck ornament as punishment.. wut
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Does this make any sense to anyone else? You might not care if it's a stranger, but… what if you're away from town and your family were locked into one of those things? And she had no one to look after her? And you RETURNED TO TOWN AS SMITH THE SMITHY, LAST NAME BLACK, SMITH BLACK, THE BLACK SMITH, WAS FUCKING YOUR SISTER/MOTHER/DAUGHTER.

Looks like smith would die, and you'd get the hangman's noose.

Eh never mind. Might work. Restrict it to the chronic hussies.

We don't need women on our side, we need consolidated groups of men with weapons, ready to fight and die. besides everyone knows natsoc dick gets lib dyke pussy wet.

In this respect, normalfaggot men are the same as women. Followers, comfort-seekers.

Learned helplessness.

i would like a woman that twerks on my dick in private women are absolute degens theyll fantasize about other men if you dont treat them like theyre fucktoys when youre getting it in

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You'll never rectify this mistake without a habbening, a collapse. In other words there will never be "reform".

lmao at women i wish i was surprised

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I'm not helpless. I do everything myself. I garden, do my own home and automotive repairs, I do my own landscaping, my own electrical, plumbing, roofing etc. The last thing I am is helpless. I could leave civilization and I have experience in nearly every skill to survive on my own.

They're hookers though from backpage, they say "no blacks" because niggers don't pay. Women are indeed not tribal, they're only group-motivated.