MGTOW

James Nguyen
James Nguyen

Welcome to this MGTOW discussion thread.
(The old one hit bump limit. This is continuation)
Earlier archives archive.is/HmH9C and archive.is/qlXIG

What is MGTOW?
MGTOW is a philosophy that is based on male sovereignty and freedom.
This philosophy encompasses a certain sociopolitical outlook and abandonment of existing gynocentric political systems.
What is proposed as an alternative are androcentric political systems that are reactive to enlightened masculine thought and a society based on order, true meritocracy with a pragmatic but a high degree of support for individual freedoms of men.
A patriarchy is not an androcentric system.
Patriarchies are gynocentric systems where a few powerful men use gynocentric structures to exploit the majority of the men in that society for various purposes ranging from wage slavery to cannon fodder for pointless wars
The institution of family is a tool of gynocentrism. This concept of family is not only unnatural but is antithetical to the freedom of men.

MGTOW and white male sovereignty
The primary threat facing the white men today is not extermination but enslavement.
White men are enslaved in a Jew dominated gynocentric system using the shackles of the institution of marriage.
All of white men's labors are used to enrich the Jew.
White men even fight in wars whose prime beneficiary is the Jew.
Therefore the answer for white men isn't to continue breeding and making families to support this Jew dominated dystopia
The answer is to rise up and take control of our own destiny by establishing androcentric political societies.
A crude draft of a sample androcentric system has been provided by another poster and it will be posted below

Earlier archives archive.is/HmH9C and archive.is/qlXIG

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Other urls found in this thread:

dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4803876/Artificial-womb-used-incubate-lamb-second-time.html
newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2017/05/artificial-wombs-are-only-three-years-away-how-scared-should-women-be

John Lewis
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Brandon Garcia
Brandon Garcia

MGTOW = DON'T REPRODUCE, GOY
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Zachary Sanchez
Zachary Sanchez

MGTOW is a jewish psyop to stop white men from reproducing. Anyone who falls for this deserves their extinction

Brody Rivera
Brody Rivera

And of course you will provide no proof that MGTOW is a Jewish psyop. Am I right?

Jose Mitchell
Jose Mitchell

Q predicted that op is a faggot

Nathan Russell
Nathan Russell

Q maybe as fake as the concept of marriage

Isaac Edwards
Isaac Edwards

FYI errboody. If you want to debate these faggots go right ahead, but if you're just going to autistically screech in rage I have an alternate suggestion for you.

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Blake Jenkins
Blake Jenkins

Pure fantasy. Its not happening because none of the governments will allow this

Noah Brooks
Noah Brooks

Which is why infiltration of ZOG is required so that a collapse can be caused. A civil war

Josiah Turner
Josiah Turner

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Andrew Morgan
Andrew Morgan

I will never stop redpilling my white sisters and supporting 1488; and there is nothing you can do about it Jewtow!

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Hudson Long
Hudson Long

Nice try goys. The concept of sovereignty applies to all, even yaxll who choose to damn yourself with its equal denial.

Evan Phillips
Evan Phillips

I can understand a man, given the current state of shitty modern women (mainly in blue states), deciding he's giving up on chicks entirely. I can't really blame him for that. I've seen some shit, I can sympathize with that decision.
I don't agree with that man trying to then proselytize his decision, as if all men should bond together in solidarity against trying to get a relationship, or find a good woman, or reproduce. That's a deliberate attempt at ending the race. It might be a fine solution on an individual level, depending on your circumstances, and such a thing would ultimately need to be your decision, but it's not a solution whatsoever on the grand existential stage of our people.
It's the "just give up, it's not worth it" approach to women. If any of us here tried to do that exact same thing but with life itself rather than females, the entire board would (rightfully) scream "shill" at that person for attempting to destroy the race by convincing people to kill themselves.

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Jaxson Ramirez
Jaxson Ramirez

Nice degenerate Jewish society. Soulless selfish automatons living only for material things. With this attitude who will be there to fight the wars when attacked? I bet you mgtows will not fight for each other?

Benjamin Hill
Benjamin Hill

I believe a full volunteer army of mgtows fighting not for each other but for mutual self interest can defend against outside attack

Eli Brown
Eli Brown

"Don't believe in yourself"
"Don't decieve with belief"
"Knowledge comes from debt's relief"

Dylan Lewis
Dylan Lewis

I can understand a man, given the current state
Not making your own way in life as a man. Not being a force upon society. Not seeing opportunity at every battle, every downfall, every enemy.

You can't see this because you're not a man.

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I believe a full volunteer army of mgtows fighting not for each other but for mutual self interest can defend against outside attack
It's called the gay community.

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Nolan Nelson
Nolan Nelson

Not making your own way in life as a man
And millions of men make their own way by deciding they want to marry and have kids. No one is forcing them to do so. I'd do it if I found the right girl.
But no, you're right, spamming redtext is a surefire way to convince detractors that your way is the One True Way and anyone who doesn't agree is a shill or retard. Well played sir, guess I can't get out of this checkmate now.

Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

Remmeber how the last thread exposed MGTOW to be run by jews and MTGOW ignored all evidence of it?
fuck off kike.

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Lucas Murphy
Lucas Murphy

MGTOW = don't reproduce white goy
Go away JIDF

Robert White
Robert White

Anti MGTOW = Goy keep working in our Jew plantation
Anti MGTOW = Goy keep providing children who will also keep working in our Jew plantation
Anti MGTOW = White people becoming chumps

Jeremiah Johnson
Jeremiah Johnson

pick up tyrone's sloppy seconds
Sure thing, kike! (((You))) are getting desperate.

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Parker Moore
Parker Moore

No, to be a man is to stop giving any credence to narrow little ideologies like this one and to live according to your own law, your own desire, your own religion, tempered by wisdom, despite whatever scorn, praise, ridicule, or adoration that's directed towards you for doing so. Take it or leave it.

Andrew Davis
Andrew Davis

Let me help you hit your "bump limit" M00t.

Christian Rivera
Christian Rivera

we should not reproduce anyway, we won't be alive to see the consequences.
MGTOW is cool and i am the wokest nigga so that should be enough proof.

Logan Gomez
Logan Gomez

"The primary threat facing the white men today is not extermination but enslavement."

They'll just replace you with browner and more easily manipulated slaves, lol

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Joshua Davis
Joshua Davis

girls are evil, thanks "the jews" for saving us.
but secretly YOU are the jews because you want us to ruin our lives and be LESS RICH!

Ryder Ross
Ryder Ross

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Kevin Anderson
Kevin Anderson

I don't see you presenting any alternatives or solutions. Of course a man doesn't want to get married if the result is divorce, losing the children, losing the house, and having to pay child support for the next decade or two. You could be just as well accused of being a feminist shill.

Blake Morgan
Blake Morgan

You could be just as well accused of being a feminist shill.

"Feminist shill" has memetic potential to spread

Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

MGTOW = DON'T REPRODUCE, GOY
I feel bad for you, (((hasbara user))). Look how fucked your operation looks. It's not your fault. You are simply not intelligent enough. :)

Michael Ramirez
Michael Ramirez

These shills are so fucking obvious. It's like back in the old days of viral marketing on /v/ when they spammed literally the same rubbish threads with the same OP and made the same posts with the same images in the thread. Just fuck off already you insufferable retards. I am sovereign without your shit approach to life.

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William Bennett
William Bennett

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Hunter Morales
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Lincoln Reed
Lincoln Reed

This is the MGTOW definition off the website. It doesnt even mention women and is clearly targetting the state as the problem. The state merely uses women to eternally cuck men

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Joshua Adams
Joshua Adams

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Alexander Jones
Alexander Jones

Genius infographic user. If that doesn't open men's eyes they deserve their ruin tbh

Eli Flores
Eli Flores

You guys are just impatient, you need to keep trying. Good things can happen in life.

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Cooper Sullivan
Cooper Sullivan

you missed the entire point of the thread.
ur so bad u must be a fucking woman.

Evan Brown
Evan Brown

Its the "Lets breed with gooks" cultist.
Gook women are just like all other women ie they are shit. Use them as fuck toys if you want to but never marry/breed with a she- gook or any other type of women

Juan Nelson
Juan Nelson

What did he mean by this?

Anthony Sanders
Anthony Sanders

We should talk about how high age of consent figures into this, because the mods anchored the last two threads about AoC in direct defiance of the rules codemonkey laid out for them. Seems like they're basically the same mod team and kampfy's removal was just for show. If you get a girl during her prime teenage years, she's much more attractive and much more likely to be loyal, so the femicunts had to take that away because they couldn't compete with it.

Blake Adams
Blake Adams

<POL PSY-OP
Lurk more you glow in the dark nigger. Get the fuck back to reddit or whatever shithole you cralwed out of with your mental cancer. This is so pitiful I dont even think cuckchan would fall for it.

Connor Martin
Connor Martin

I empathize with you people that have had bad experiences with women, when the time comes and I'm able to share I'll come back and share mine, but not reproducing is folly. Yes there are risks involved, but I think a lot of the MGTOW hate comes from American women who are utter trash. European women aren't nearly as bad, given the poz society they inhabit.

Lincoln Brooks
Lincoln Brooks

Haha, I'll save this thread so that I can laugh at shills. What a failure! Don't quit shills, we need you :D

Brandon Brooks
Brandon Brooks

The primary threat facing the white men today
is their own stupidity. You can't be enslaved by someone unless you willingly allow it

androcentric
still has women in it
these women will have to be supported by men one way or another
Do you see a flaw?

Oliver Scott
Oliver Scott

What is MGTOW?

OVEN FODDER

Nicholas Nelson
Nicholas Nelson

- Men lead and women follows!
- But me being a sad, weak, uninspired piece of shit is because of women!
- I never have had a working relationship.
- Hence I now you will fail too, Pol, give up!

The male version of lesbian separatism…

Risks is part of human life anyway. Never take risks, your life is going to suck. Trump wouldn't have gotten as much support from west european white women than american white women. The latter is generally less spineless and mushy even if it have a lot of hardcore nutjobs.

Jaxon Rodriguez
Jaxon Rodriguez

As long as feminism is not abolished you are in no position to be complaining about MGTOW. You can't expect men to commit under such shit circumstances.

Ryan Hernandez
Ryan Hernandez

More proof that the fagceltow cult is feminism for men.

Jonathan Martin
Jonathan Martin

MGTOW allow for reproduction using surrogate mothers. Its time you idiots stopped meming

Luke Turner
Luke Turner

That is because Zig Forums has always been infiltrated by manginas from its inception. Their reply is some variation of man up and jump into the marriage meat grinder. A lot of these tradcucks and natsocks are male feminists tbh. They can't come out and openly say it but the things they propose indirectly amount to the same thing.

Chase Miller
Chase Miller

the state leads and women follows!
Fixed

Michael Nelson
Michael Nelson

Do MGTOW, then find a wife. MGTOW is just an extreme overcompensation of a simple fix for men. Some men think that women are equals, then the relationship falls apart when the woman makes all the decisions. Women say they want equality, but they want a strong man that makes decisions. They are testing individually to find a man that is superior, and they are testing as a community as well. This doesn't mean you strong arm her or overly assert over her, but you go your own way, and the women follow. Women are not equals, but they are not inferior. Women should be respected, but they should not be coddled. You are better than them, but they are a part of your culture. If they come, they come. Go your own way, and women will follow.

Thomas Rodriguez
Thomas Rodriguez

Once again women can be dealt with. Women plus the state is a combo no man can handle.

Jackson Morales
Jackson Morales

unironically this. If we push for lower age of consent then men can marry virgins and raise proper wives from an age where they are not indoctrinated by Marxists jews and femihags. I think 14 would be a god start. if you believe in the 14 words then you should marry a fertile 14 yo

Elijah Rodriguez
Elijah Rodriguez

women are inferior to men and they deserve t have their rights taken away. anyone who does not support white sharia is a ZOG shill

Oliver Cook
Oliver Cook

What is the point of having a son if the son gets taken away from you?

The existing governments will not allow it. It will have to be fought for and taken by force

Caleb Evans
Caleb Evans

This guy says all i need to right here in this vid.

Lucas Campbell
Lucas Campbell

I suppose he is a faggot incel jew too according to tradcucks here

Tyler Ross
Tyler Ross

MGTOW = go extinct white goy

Ethan Taylor
Ethan Taylor

Pol, give up!
Pol
Everytime

Benjamin Taylor
Benjamin Taylor

MGTOW men = the beautiful ones

Owen Lewis
Owen Lewis

A lot of men are arriving to the conclusion that they won't receive any love from a relationship. Thanks to porn, hentai or onaholes they can also control their drive for sex. For that reason, feminists are now trying to shame them with the "don’t reproduce" tactic. Because they have nothing else to offer. Absolutely nothing.
Some men will fall for this tactic and they will raise their neighbor’s kids. Others will use surrogate mothers. Others will find a good, non-feminist woman. Others don't even want to have a child.
In any case, this is just propaganda shaming tactics, like the social pressure against male virgins.
There's also the fact that men are totally defenseless against false accusations, divorces, abuse from females, children brainwashed to hate them… Married men can also have horrible, humiliating lives.
Well, things are not that simple

Lucas Hill
Lucas Hill

The artificial womb is basically ready. It had already been tried in mammals and it works. Only so called ethics prevents human trials.

MGTOW = don't reproduce white goy
What are surrogate mothers?
What are artificial wombs?
You shills and your FUD tactics are so transparent

Do MGTOW, then find a wife.
then find a wife.
Why? What do you need a wife for?

Carter Reyes
Carter Reyes

allow
These things have to be fought for. Nobody is going to 'allow' anything. Britain would never have allowed the USA to happen. It was fought for and gained

Most of these are women. No real man would be this obsessed whether another man married or not. The typical make attitude would be "Less competition and more chicks for me". Anytime you see someone trying to berate a man for not getting married 95% of the time its a woman

Kayden Bennett
Kayden Bennett

To help raise your children, dipshit. Single parent homes lead to messed up kids.

Austin Butler
Austin Butler

Most of these are women. No real man would be this obsessed whether another man married or not
Trips of truth

Luke Perez
Luke Perez

MGTOW IS A JEWISH INVENTION, ADOPTED BY UNFUCKABLE LOSERS
THEY ARE MALE EQUIVAILENT OF STRONK INDEPENDENT WOMYN, CATS AND ALL

Angel Stewart
Angel Stewart

Oh look, the pillow fucker made another thread.

Carson Powell
Carson Powell

I have a question for you user, and I would greatly appreciate some advice on this matter.
I am currently living with my mother, and if you must know I turn 20 this September, not that this makes my situation of living any less pathetic but still. I can see your comments of
NEET-user is a basement dweller
And so on.
Now on to the matter of which I ask advice for, I am living with my mother and in a daughter of one of her close friends I belive. She was basically a cousin to me and our paths in life diverged quite a ways, where as she fell for the Jewish trick of (((black culture))) in America of rap and other Nigga-booty type things. She even has 2 mutt children from separate baby-daddies.
Now, she's leaving to live elsewhere but I still sympathise with her; and her situation, granted I do feel far more sorry for her children because I know what it's like, to a certain degree, to live without a father figure, but for her children she took them at such a young age. Whereas I was with my father in the early years and during High school, the filthy niggers that she lay with won't even fight for their children, like my father did for me. (But then again my father was no nigger)
I've spent little time with her daughter and her son is not even a year yet.
It breaks my heart to hear her say dada thinking I'm her father.
Is there anything, any wisdom that I can part with her to hopefully stear her towards a better path? What would you do in my situation? I don't have resentment or any such feeling for the mother, hell, I hardly know her well enough to truly hold such feelings. But she has used my mother for residence in her household for a petty squabble with her baby-daddy in the past, and I don't want her children to be harmed for some stupid decision that she made if I could even prevent something like that from happening.

A plea for guidance from yours truly. ~Anonymous

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Jeremiah Allen
Jeremiah Allen

Instead of the MGTOW shaming language, how about contribute viable methods to prevent being taken advantage of?

Examples of unhelpful comments:
find a good woman
go to church
man up

Examples of good comments:
how to preserve wealth
what to do if wife is going to divorce
ways to reproduce without turning yourself into an ATM for thots/(((the government)))

Benjamin Martinez
Benjamin Martinez

The entire marriage/divorce system and laws, Jew lawyers, etc has to be blown up and rebuilt. But whites need to reproduce in a big way. MGTOW isn't the right way to accomplish both of these objectives.

Nolan Phillips
Nolan Phillips

the answer to white birth rates is not reproducing goy
all women everywhere, objectively, are at fault and bad, not your social issues!
think of all the shekels you'll save

How anyone doesn't realize this is a psyop is retarded. Who the fuck organizes this shit. If you hate women this much see a (((therapist))).

Even the fucking OP is fucking rifled with thesaurus speak and logical fallacies to appear like a meaningful movement.

Self develop, don't fall into this nihilistic trap.

Aiden Stewart
Aiden Stewart

How about no. You don't deserve a fucking conversation. You've been had or you're a shill.

'Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.'

Brody Bennett
Brody Bennett

"Don't punch me, I'm one of you, lets be civil now"
Go back to Reddit fag

Isaiah Anderson
Isaiah Anderson

My advice is strangle the coal burner, hypothetically of course

Grayson Ramirez
Grayson Ramirez

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Austin Cruz
Austin Cruz

kiked feminist telling anyone to go back to reddit
wow

Have a bump, faggot.

Jeremiah James
Jeremiah James

SHITHEAD MENINIST CANT TAKE BANTER

Luis Martinez
Luis Martinez

says this while reddit spacing
top jej

Lucas White
Lucas White

found the greedy jews attempting to shame men into a life of servitude

Camden Bell
Camden Bell

DONT BREED GOY
DONT BREED GOY
DONT BREED GOY

Juan Sanchez
Juan Sanchez

Oy vey
We're onto you schlomo

Ayden Jenkins
Ayden Jenkins

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Calls me a kike when he advocates white genocide by proxy.

Christian Cruz
Christian Cruz

advocates white genocide by proxy.
I don't do anything of the sort. I promote the creation of strong families.
I just want to know how to prevent being taken advantage of by the corrupt (((family justice system))), how to protect my family and our wealth from greedy jews, and the toxic environment they've created. But instead of helping out, you've resorted to useless shaming - the kikeyst of kikey kikery.

Nolan Wilson
Nolan Wilson

Yes, you must marry and raise kids that are not yours. And then you will live in a car after the divorce, if you don't end up in a jail.
Your feminist tactics are pretty obvious.
Do feminists really have nothing else to offer except for children which do not belong to you? No love, no respect, no kindness, no sex, no nothing?
Why marry, then? There are good women, but having children with a surrogate mother is better than marrying a feminist who will never love you.

Jaxon Long
Jaxon Long

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Thinks a single parent family is strong
kek

Leo Young
Leo Young

thinks that rolling the dice with your life and progeny is the correct course of action.
gambling is degeneracy

Julian Garcia
Julian Garcia

Why are you such a cuck that you don't know if the child is yours? That is Numale behavior.
inb4 DNA TESTS ARE ILLEGAL

Parker Richardson
Parker Richardson

The artificial womb is basically ready. It had already been tried in mammals and it works
dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4803876/Artificial-womb-used-incubate-lamb-second-time.html

Researchers have successfully used an artificial womb to incubate a fetal lamb for the second time. The feat offers fresh hope for the future of care for premature babies, as experts hope this fluid-filled plastic bag could help them develop their organs and grow.

It was first performed by researchers in Philadelphia earlier this year. Now scientists in Australia have replicated the device. In the latest study, fetal lambs were placed in the custom-made bags for one week to test how they reacted and developed in that environment.The lambs were born healthy from the womb with no signs of brain damage.

Its a technology that can probably be easily adapted to human babies. The foundations required for a mgtow nation are now already there.

Jack Fisher
Jack Fisher

MGTOW nation
What, is that like a men only state?

Ayden Martinez
Ayden Martinez

Yes. A men only state but where women like you can seek employment as sex providers

Henry Lee
Henry Lee

Thinks I'm a woman just because I think don't breed got is a bad idea

Bentley Gray
Bentley Gray

What, is that like a men only state
no.
Children can be girls too…
The difference is that the man is the only parent, which prevents women from hijacking their upbringing and foisting the state on them as a surrogate father.
And in the case of girl children, they won't grow up with daddy issues because a scorned mother poisoned their mind with lies to cover up her maternal failings.

Justin Hall
Justin Hall

winners are winners of hookup culture, the Tinder most-desired

Your "ideal" is the toy of feminism. The sexually-isolated and ridiculed man prior to women's lib and 20th century modernist Judaized cosmopolitanism, was the sex pest adulterer. The "man slut" was a reprehensible figure, and the family man revered as one who was part of keeping community order rather than turning our Western world into what you idealize: nigger tribeville, where tribe leader fucks em all, and everyone else is "a loser."

Go to Africa, nigger.

You "men" of tinder today think you're the "winners." Hah. You're slaves. Slaves to "looksmaxing," slaves to dealing with women's shit in the form of "game." Feminist slaves.

When we had order, men needed no focus on looksmaxing for an 8 pack or "social media management." They spent their time pursuing worthwhile things, and women had to pick a man that wasn't taken, generally within her own level.

Now, your tinder nigger culture sees men who are in gyms, on drugs, trying to get jacked and ripped, amateur dieticians with a double minor in pharmacology and kinesiology, just to be the hundredth man to cum in some cold slut's diseased cunt.

Look at the big winner! Mike's the big winner!

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Jordan Walker
Jordan Walker

KIKES GET OUT
NOW

Isaiah Richardson
Isaiah Richardson

(((They Live))) was a leftist kike movie trying to appeal to pills by convincing them that the right was the kiked one.

Benjamin Baker
Benjamin Baker

They Live was about the whites and blacks in the US overthrowing the Jew.

They Live 2 was in preproduction until the studio saw the opening 5 minutes where the whites started sending all the niggers out through that underground space transporter.

Logan Jackson
Logan Jackson

kek. The feminist kvetching has already begun
newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2017/05/artificial-wombs-are-only-three-years-away-how-scared-should-women-be

Artificial wombs are only three years away - how scared should women be?
According to the charmingly titled Men’s Rights Activist blog Boycott Bitches, “the future is pretty dark for women”. This is because: “Once artificial wombs are invented, real human women will become obsolete.” If that’s true, then real human women had better come up with some contingency plan, because it looks as though the clock’s already started ticking.

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Jaxson Torres
Jaxson Torres

You don't have to be a closeted homo to be MGTOW, but it certainly helps.

Brayden Peterson
Brayden Peterson

I don't see you presenting any alternatives or solutions
Not him but I might suggest an alternative.

While MGTOW is correct that most women are like that, and that some men are statistically unlikely to meet the correct woman, for those who are willing to put some effort there is a way.

In my experience I built a protocol to check women and know if they could be a mate.

Preparation
All communication is manipulation.
Every communication starts with an intent and a goal, and as such is at least in part manipulation.
So always fact check, verify that every information is true.

Phase 1. Past check
The past is perhaps the most important part.
"Reformed" whores do not exist; most character feature of humans are genetic and prone to repeat.
If she had many short stories rather than few long ones dump her.
Most non-degenerate women should find love at 20, so 1 dick by her 21+ is normal. 25+ 2 dicks tops. 30+ 3 dicks tops.
Also investigate why the story ended. Ask their exes and friends.
Finally check how long they've been single before the next story; too short means she dumped the first guy for the second.
If she fails any of the above, drop her. You'll be tempted to continue, do not.
If she succeeds you might begin to have date.

Phase 2. Ideal check
My tactic is to drop an argument (like abortion or immigration), but word it like I expect her to say what I don't want her to say.
For example I introduce an immigration topic neutrally but phrase it in a way that I kind of expect a pro-immigration answer.
Trust me that she WILL give you the anti-immigration answer if she's really against it.
But if you make it sound like you're against she might just tell you what you want to hear if she's pro.
Do this with every political point up to one step before the jews (play it off like "bankers control everything" etc).
This is because most people do not know about the jews, and telling them is not the right way; you must make it so that they get to the conclusion themselves. It must not be something they heard but something they researched and KNOW.
A goy must not be brainwashed, that is the art of the jew.
We must verify, research and then know, in order to really understand.

Phase 3. Future check
If she got this far investigate what she wants.
This is important, even if she meets the above standards trust me it can still fail.
Anything resembling "I don't know what to do" means "I'm planning to do some degeneracy before I decide".

Phase 4: Reality test
There are many proverbs that accurately depict the fact what people want doesn't always translate to what they actually do in such a situation.
You might profoundly hate stealing but if your friend leaves a bag of money around will you take it?
The only way is a reality test.
A person must be confronted with a situation where they COULD do something against their claimed values and get away with it.
What they will do will tell you who they really are.
This is fundamental because just because she's a saint now it doesn't mean she can't be corrupted.
Most people hold ideals only because they never had the chance to go against them and gain something.
Only a reality test can predict if she will follow her words with actions.

If she passes all these, congratulations user you have found the holy grail.

Of course this sounds time consuming, but it really isn't; most women fail part 1 and it doesn't take long to do that test.
But those who pass it are worth the time to go through phase 2.

And yeah MGTOW is an easier option and I can see why some can't be bothered to judaism-check dozens of women, but if you want a family and you live in the current year this is the only way that I know.
Afterall, Americans, nobody asked you to save the jews in WW2, you could have let the Russians take Germany and actually holo them, but it went how it went, you picked the jews and now these are the consequences.
You can go your own way or MGTHW (Men Going The Hard Way).
Either choice is understandable, what matters is which one makes you satisfied, which is not the same for everyone.

Juan Smith
Juan Smith

how scared should women be?

They are tied up in knots about which victimhood narrative to push,
1. irreplaceable yet oppressed mothers of life's miracle, or
2. unwilling hosts of burdensome wombs who can trans at any time.

No surprise what so ever.

Matthew Jenkins
Matthew Jenkins

Make her read books, and steer her in the appeal of positive femininity.

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Liam King
Liam King

if she doesnt read books then shes already lost user

Isaiah Morris
Isaiah Morris

if she doesnt read books then shes already lost user
Knowing how to read… obviously.
But most of what is in books has been (((approved by publishers)))
Odds are that its bullshit or frivolous.

Book worship is lame. I see that sort of banal shit pushed throughout (((academia))). Its as if just being around books will make you a better person. They won't. You have to read things that stretch your intellect, knowledge, wisdom… which isn't really in books.

Dominic Flores
Dominic Flores

mgtow is the one thing Zig Forums has no defense against.

Thomas Clark
Thomas Clark

You have to read things that stretch your intellect, knowledge, wisdom… which isn't really in books

Fucking moron. Books are the differentiator between nigger attention spans and everyone else.

Pamphlets are for propaganda to sway retards. Twitter is for retards. If you want to learn, you need chapters, you need to make links between ideas, etc.

The social media world of bite-sized communication is why everyone's attention span is fucking retarded, they sound like retards, and their favorite acronym is TLDR which means Too Long for Dumb Retards

Mason Lopez
Mason Lopez

Ask any woman in her prime breeding age why she isn't married with kids. I'm willing to bet that her answer will be "muh career." Stop hiring women, get rid of diversity quotas, get them out of the workforce, start hiring based on merit again. Getting women into the workforce was used specifically as a way to lower the population. Women overwhelmingly and continually vote for more/bigger government and politicians/parties that let in millions of third world trash. Repeal the fucking 19th amendment, women haven't done anything to earn it, and they aren't even net tax payers. Fix the fucking marriage contract or get rid of it entirely. She shouldn't be entitled to half or more of my wealth if we split. Get rid of alimony, get rid of child support, women have abused these for far too long. Make abortion illegal. No childbirth happens without women's say so. They are the real ones to blame for the low white birth rate. If you take away their right to get an abortion, they'll think twice before opening their legs outside of marriage, I promise you. MGTOWs real beef is with a society that completely caters to women's unchecked hypergamy. If you take away their undeserved rights and restore authority to the people who maintain and keep civilization going, they'll fall in line. They can't fight us and they know it, that's why they have simps, manginas and Jews enforcing the laws. I'll let you in on a deep crimson redpill: Women haven't changed. Women are the same in 2018 as they were in 1518. Society changed and it changed for the worse. One more thing: Unlike a certain shit flinger on youtube, I'll tell you that it was Jews who pushed for women getting the vote, and it was Jews who pushed for abortion and women in the workforce.

Brandon Bennett
Brandon Bennett

t-this

Sebastian Hernandez
Sebastian Hernandez

MGTOW is for closet fags and pre-op trannies who want to become women.

Kayden Allen
Kayden Allen

Books are the differentiator between nigger attention spans and everyone else.
Oy vey. Read our (((publications))). We've pre-sesected only approved materials for your consumption goy.

How about instead of relying on someone else to pre-gurgitate information and (((conclusions))) presented in (((published))) form… go ahead and look directly at sources and make up your own mind.

Jace Peterson
Jace Peterson

I'm pretty confused by something a 30 yo roastie told me when I asked her to be my girlfriend. After we spent some time together and got to know each other, even though I was clearly an insecure faggot and she clearly didn't like me at all, her response was "okay but how long?" "emm… i don't know… three weeks?" I replied. She just walked away and blocked me on everything.

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Xavier Howard
Xavier Howard

My advice is that you should improve your writing.

Jonathan James
Jonathan James

It's really GREAT how the thread denouncing these kikes got locked and this shit is still up. Fuck you glownigger shills.