Separatism

So I think a lot of you are most likely on the page where you're starting to accept that the great Liberal democracies of the 21st century are nothing but a scam designed to fleece a bunch of morons out of their inheritance and wealth.

That the end goal or at least the end result of these democracies; is not a fair and equitable solution to the question of what is and isn't our rights. As you've actually in a democratic system not consented to have your rights represented - but CONSENTED to having your rights stripped from you by lot and draw.

Now the Libertarian diagnoses this problem differently - he views this as a failing of government and overreach of their natural authority not just infringing upon the rights of the sovereign, but also creating an unstable situation socially and economically. Whereas the Nationalist simply views what's going on in government as a perversity - politicians actively working to undermine the better interest of their own constituents - all following the democracies rules or if not, re-writing them as they go.

So - since I highly doubt "revolution" for "revolutions" sake will ever solve these problems - as it's pretty much an incoherent statement at this point. And it's not like the people have one tangible enemy, they're beset on all sides by people on both sides of the so called political aisle, and even a stronghold of would be oppressors who form up the political center.

Alas, only one solution I think still remains - one that has been pre-dominantly untested and where it has been tested it's failed miserably. (See Quebec, Ireland, Catalonia etc..)

Separatism folks might be our only way of escaping the edgy accusations of wannabe dictators from the ever so kind lying press - as well as a way of keeping on board the useful idiots Cuckapedes.

Anyway this thread is for the discussion of Separatism, Separatist movements - and the logistics of pulling off a Rightwing Nationalist

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Reminds me of the Pulp Fiction nigger reading his line.

Honestly I don't know. The USA is certainly not going to let go of any piece of its territory without a fight, so where could it be done? The PNW guys tried it, I think Sperglin is trying to do something in Nigeria if he could get ahold of some land, but I can't think of a single place on earth that could harbor us and not try to antagonize us.

Well not any time soon - and the problem with the people you're referencing is: they're children. Richard Spencer, Anglin, Mike Enoch etc. These are grown children they're not leaders - nothing they do should be seen as anything other than D&C.

I think it can't be done in the US, today. And that's mostly because people of our inclinations aren't so concentrated - and a lot of "Right wing" people are Israeli-Ultra Nationalists who want a world in which the US acts as a bludgeon for Jewish/Western Capital.

But in a future in which the News is as bleak every night as it is now, where every White person is told for the next 20 years - "You should go die and hand us the keys to the kingdom."

A Separatist movement with the proper iconography, relevance and leadership could certainly do the trick - the problem is it's rarely been attempted in earnest. And most of the time when it is attempted it's by faggot Communists or people with no tangible goals.

For instance, I know it's not the US - but Quebec narrowly failed their bid for independence. And they might have achieved it had things gone down differently. (If you don't know the exact history behind that, it's surprisingly dramatic.)

Honestly, I think they just narrowly missed a Brexit style faux referendum result. Britain is never leaving the EU in a meaningful way apart from words on paper, and as soon as the old codgers die off they will re-referendum themselves back into the EU no questions asked. Especially after a few more years of massive Paki breeding and immigration. Having a home for yourself has never been voted for unfortunately, if you catch my drift.

I'm not that partial to their cause but it wouldn't surprise me if they were the victims of a false flag campaign. I mean they really scared the shit out of the Canadian government - but that's the kind of legitimate movement I'm talking about. I'm a big fan of National Socialists, I think the guys on this board have the keenest minds. But I think if we're going to have any hope in hell - we're going to need to adopt regional identities that make sense in the context of where we are.

The White Ethnostate can never be the US again, or Canada, or any European nation that has been tainted by shit skin blood. It's going to require us to be bold enough to reboot our societies with new identities but not so radical that they're entirely unpalatable - we after all, would need men and women to fight and die for these states. But that point is where ideas like National Socialism and whatever come in.

We're not even at step one yet - and step one is coherent political organization with the explicit goal of Separatism, with new national identities by region - that's the only hope any of us have of the real political representation we all crave.

No one gives a fuck what you think, this isn't your blog faggot.

What nations don't have shiskin blood?

Exactly. I don't mean the land I mean the Nations themselves - the identity, the nature of them have been warped and twisted into new world entities that are created to serve as a crude Jewish golem so that soft nationalists can be controlled.

I agree. Separatism is probably the only real choice for at least a little while. If nothing else, to provide sanctuaries for those who wish to carry the torch of their respective cultures.

However, let's got some things clear - if a separatist movement were to form, it has to have a few ground rules.
Every member joining up must be separated from the "inner" state, by ways of either simple detention (while still being treated properly, not a literal fucking prison), or by other means of separation. A sort of "limbo" point for new members. This period will see the evaluation of the person - it would let us reject retards, traitors, etc if the quarantine period is long enough. I'd like to see it something along the lines of 6 months to a year, but that's a different discussion entirely. The point is, it has to be long.

This would invariably involve some redditor faggotry I'm sure, but it needs its own unique identity. It can't be Zig Forums's thing, or the like. Discussing it and planning on Zig Forums is fine, but it must be its own independent movement. The obvious reason being that Zig Forums is not an identity to be carried outside of itself, but less obvious would be the greatly negative connotation that would get it shut down. Flying under the radar for as long as possible while the groundworks get set up would be ideal.

In any case, self sufficiency would be key here. Relying on imports, begging, or gibsmedat would be inherently self destructive to any kind of real separatist movement. A better approach is to treat it like trying to form your own Amish-style community. Given that, I do think that the US might be the best place for this. Co-operate with local officials, don't make a fuss, etc. Just stick to your land and keep your shit as off the grid as possible. Quite a few states wouldn't give a shit, and might even support you if you play your cards right.

I remember a good few anons had put some serious thought into this, though. A few ideas were presented - Greenland and Tierra del Fuego were the most prominent ones, but both presented a lot of issues. I honestly think just sticking to the US would be the best bet.

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I, and a lot of other people, don't find the idea of foregoing previous national identities very palatable, but it is an interesting thought. The US did it, and had nice foundations, but the core element of democracy unfortunately did it in. So maybe something similar might work.