Danzig Massacres before Germany invaded Poland?

Grayson Martin
Grayson Martin

I'm trying to learn about this and seeking help with isolating historical documents related to it. Nobody really seems to care about September 3-4 ethnic cleansing of Germans living in Poland since this happened after Germans invaded Poland in September 1st. But I've read that German people were accusing Poles of ethnic cleansing as far back as March/April around the time that Poland allied with Britain and Hitler withdrew from the non-aggression pact.

For example from 29 August 2006 at both fr.soc.histoire.narkive.com/QRMNaeuE/the-1939-danzig-massacres-of-ethnic-germans-which-caused-hitler-to-invade-poland and groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/fr.soc.histoire/9U3llgVEF8U
In the months leading up to the German invasion the Polish Army and independent Bolshevik units had been slaughtering German nationals in the Danzig corridor. Mass killings of thousands of civilian ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche) by both civilian and Russian NDVK Jews, who were confident that Poland would quickly defeat Germany. Many apparently expected to take possession of German farms and businesses. An estimated 58,000 German civilians lost their lives in the massacres carried out prior to the 1939 invasion.

Is there any truth to this, or is it possibly a Jewish misdirect? I'm trying to find older documents relating to the claims. Who else reported on them previously? Can we find the documents in original German from late 1938 / early 1939 relating to them and then translate them?

Other urls found in this thread:

namethejew.com/how-hitler-did-not-start-world-war-two/
quora.com/Is-there-any-evidence-about-the-Danzig-massacres-and-the-killing-of-more-than-58000-Germans-before-the-start-of-WW2
scribd.com/doc/53056883/Hans-Schadewaldt-1940-the-Polish-Atrocitites-Against-the-German-Minority-in-Poland#scribd
archive.org/details/youtube-1RfwBR_hcG8
impartialtruth.com/adolf-hitler-germany-invaded-poland/
impartialtruth.com/adolf-hitler-response-to-the-bromberg-massacres-1939/
jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
hooktube.com/watch?v=oSLy5qn7q7c
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_evolution_of_Poland#1919
politico.eu/article/polish-foreign-minister-witold-waszczykowski-no-more-negro-mentality-toward-states-duda-obama/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Soviet_War_in_1920
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_westward_offensive_of_1918–19
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_plans_for_German_industry_after_World_War_II
dailypole.com/foreign-minister-we-walked-away/
cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/neoreaction/Guido Preparata/Conjuring Hitler - How Britain and America made the Third Reich.pdf
danzigfreestate.org/unknownhistory.htm
archive.org/details/SchultzeRhonhofManyFathersWPermanentSubtitles
archive.org/details/HitlersWar-WhatTheHistoriansNeglectToMentiontestVersion
youtu.be/WVOk4TiugbE
wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.html
youtu.be/SbBnRZoTHFs
youtu.be/MejbBsSAP8I
wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html
mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg!o0Uk3KTJ
youtu.be/qkQ6J5F01Do
youtu.be/LwAYgjG6SkM
wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/deathinpoland/dp00.html
archive.is/MitYS
archive.is/JauWN
un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.pdf
buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068

Anthony Nguyen
Anthony Nguyen

namethejew.com/how-hitler-did-not-start-world-war-two/ has something similar
The Polish Bolsheviks kill 58,000 German Nationals in the Danzig corridor

I am concerned about the high number though. Jews are great at inflating numbers so it's possible that a lesser amount of Germans could've been killed in Danzig (still plenty to justify German intervention and annexation of the Danzig region) and that it could be misreported as a higher number by Jews trying to discredit the claims of a Danzig massacre. So I want to take appropriate steps to determine the origin of the number (something you won't see done with the 6 gorillion)

quora.com/Is-there-any-evidence-about-the-Danzig-massacres-and-the-killing-of-more-than-58000-Germans-before-the-start-of-WW2 on 20 April 2018, Andrew Warriner attributed the following to Hans Schadewaldt in 1940:

More than 58,000 were lost by the German minority in Poland during the days of their liberation from the Polish yoke, as far as canbe as certained at present.
The Polish nation must for all time be held responsible for this appalling massacre consequent upon that Polish reign of terror.
Up to November 17, 1939, the closing day for the documentary evidence contained in the first edition of this book, 5,437 murders, committed by members of the Polish armed forces and by Polish civilians on men, women and children of the German minority had already been irrefutably proved.
It was quite apparent even then that the actual number of murders far exceeded this figure, and by February 1, 1940, the total number of identified bodies of the German minority had increased to 12,857.
Official investigations carried out since the outbreak of the German-Polish war have shown that to these 12,857 killed there must be added more than 45,000 missing, all of whom must be accounted dead since no trace of them can be found.
Thus the victims belonging to the German minority in Poland already now total over 58,000.

Links to [the Polish Atrocitites Against the German Minority in Poland] at scribd.com/doc/53056883/Hans-Schadewaldt-1940-the-Polish-Atrocitites-Against-the-German-Minority-in-Poland#scribd where it appears on page 6.

Part of the problem is that the proof of 5,437 murders on November 17 was 2.5 months after the invasion. It isn't really clear if it's describing pre-September murders or also including post-September urders. I'm particularly interested in the "45,000 missing" OFFICIAL investigation. Can we find names of the missing? If we can prove they existed and how they stopped existing it would help in putting together evidence of this, if it exists.

Nicholas Kelly
Nicholas Kelly

Orphans of versaille is definitely a book you should check out.

Blake Ortiz
Blake Ortiz

the germans are accused of invading poland for greed
the germans actually invaded because the niggers there qwere killing ethnic poles
germans invaded to stop a genocide and are accused of executing one

Liam King
Liam King

no proof

Luke Sullivan
Luke Sullivan

Orphans of versaille

The 'Free City of Danzig' snub to German nationalism by channeling Napoleonic conquest is justification enough, but I would like to know if any page of OOV specifically refers to massacres of ethnic Germans within Danzig or elsewhere in Polish territories prior to September 1939.

What is this based on? The claims I've encountered are about Pol-Pols killing Germ-Pols. not Nigs killing Pol-Pols

Connor Perez
Connor Perez

Thread exist

SAGE

Connor Gomez
Connor Gomez

Orphans of versaille

The lands Germany ceded to Poland after World War I included more than one million ethnic Germans for whom the change meant a sharp reversal of roles. The Polish government now confronted a German minority in a region where power relationships had been the other way around for more than a century.

Orphans of Versailles examines the complex psychological and political situation of Germans consigned to Poland, their treatment by the Polish government and society, their diverse strategies for survival, their place in international relations, and the impact of National Socialism.

The book is very relevant.

Jeremiah Morgan
Jeremiah Morgan

It wasn't the poles themselves, it was the Polish communists in their country who backstabbed their own people, but it was primarely the Russian Bolsheviks and when we say "Russian Bolsheviks" i mean kikes in positions of power leading the Russian people astray, these Bolsheviks who had infiltrated Poland, taken over their government and were instigated ethnic cleansing, they even did so against any prominent Polish nationalist, the most known of it was the 4200 shot and killed in a woods i can't remember from the top of my head. I've lost most of my 6 year autistic file collections where i had some great red-pills regarding this matter.

Blake Reyes
Blake Reyes

Wasn't it Poles and jews?

Lincoln Mitchell
Lincoln Mitchell

Yes, there were Polish "Communists", which back then was just Bolsheviks as that was the mainstream ideology. But these Poles were a minority compared to the extreme amount of Russians Bolsheviks who were running the show, the majority of their commanding officers were jews. The organized take-over of Poland was completed within weeks, all those who opposed it found themselves killed in assassinations or organized small genocide.

Many Nationalists were on a death-list, which was partially provided by these Poles and these men were taken at their place of work or at their homes and driven to specific locations to be shot and killed.

Before Hitler decided to finally act and send in the German Army, after countless pleads to individual Statesmen and several official pleads to the then league of nations. Many of the horror stories of the Germans who had fled Poland were published in German papers.

Meanwhile Russian and Polish Bolsheviks, dressed as SS or Wehrmacht crossed the borders and killed Germans in border towns, looted and plundered it, they would often be able to speak crude German and called for people to come to them, because they appeared as authority figures people trusted them and would essentially walk into a trap, sometimes they even gathered up the entire village only to gun most of them down in the town square, they made sure some Germans were left alive to tell the tale in the media to portray the crimes as if the National Socialists had committed the atrocity, they did this up until the point when the German army was moved towards the border. Later on, during the German-Russian war this tactic would become officially sanctioned by the USSR in a order decreeing a specialist division do this so as to turn the populace of East-Europe against the Germans.

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Oliver Stewart
Oliver Stewart

If I was Nazi Germany, I would have won the war by importing millions of Africans between me and Russia (At least 45 million, because 20 million of them would get genocided).

Then, I would have called on other Aryans (like Latin America) to immigrate to Western France, so that D-day would only happen in the north. No need to waste a single bullet or life, when immigrants would be happy just living in those lands while giving you intelligence and time. Furthermore, during an invasion, they will offer a roadblock. AND IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, you can SAVE millions of Germans by mingling with the immigrants and claim they came with them.

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Oliver Phillips
Oliver Phillips

I want to add 1 thing: If only Hitler had realized the great potential in immigration, he would have won the war and saved Germany.

Henry Reyes
Henry Reyes

Fuck off with your slides kike, you're losing and there's no stopping it.

Noah James
Noah James

the germans actually invaded because the niggers there qwere killing ethnic poles

You are retarded. They invaded to stop the Poles from killing ethnic Germans.

Also this is not a source.

You might have to wait a bit for a /pdfs/ user versed in history can cite you a source.

Aaron Carter
Aaron Carter

Oh look its the (((esoteric immigrants))) shill. Aryan ICEmen are coming for you spic.

Hunter Jones
Hunter Jones

Yes, keep repeating Goebbels propaganda faggot. Maybe read something about Gleiwitz incident. The only and one reason Gerfucks started war was they will to do so since 1918.

Adrian Jenkins
Adrian Jenkins

still not a single document proving this, you nazis really do like getting carried away

Easton Lewis
Easton Lewis

I don't know if it's real myself, just wait until someone who actually reads stuff shows up, but Poles did that anyway trust me
lmfao wew

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Connor Green
Connor Green

When I looked into a pre-war Polish massacre of ethnic Germans I couldn't find any evidence. Either put up proofs or stop this embarrassing charade.

Mason Williams
Mason Williams

That actually is the best idea I seen on 8/pol/ in all these years. Have a natural and organic bump.

Angel Baker
Angel Baker

((( )))
poles gud bois, they dindu nuthin
they murdered Germans

Jonathan Jenkins
Jonathan Jenkins

It has always been a disinfo campaign.
But there were some small fights started by german agents, none of them took off so they decided to go with the radio station crap in the end.

Charles Ramirez
Charles Ramirez

The Polish Bolsheviks
Jews. They're called jews.

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Anthony Ramirez
Anthony Ramirez

give evidence. You have some of course?

Or you will just keep posting shit based on propaganda series like "their mothers, their fathers"? Do research faggot

Juan Gray
Juan Gray

this fucking thread
retarded shills say no proofs
can't even read op
Filtered, all of you. Fucking morons.

Brandon Sanders
Brandon Sanders

They invaded to stop the Poles from killing ethnic Germans

They claimed that as casus belli. Whole story is pure fabrication for propaganda purpose.

Matthew Flores
Matthew Flores

Polish Bolsheviks
Polish and Bolsheviks in combination
What the fuck

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Xavier Moore
Xavier Moore

No dumb fuck, read the OP and lurk for a thousand years.
lol polish communists totally didn't exist
lol polish smigly leadership totally wasn't going imperialist after pilsudski died
And another shill to the pyre.

Elijah Fisher
Elijah Fisher

Yeah, this thread will be at 751 replies tomorrow. I think they whip out the bots for threads like these.

Kayden Anderson
Kayden Anderson

Gas yourselves.
Thoroughly
The VAST majority of spics are NOT WHITE.
And they NEVER will be. EVER.

Given all the lies surrounding the Germans in WW2, and given that those lies mostly revolved around making the Germans look like monsters, I suspect that the killings of thousands of ethnic Germans in Poland 100% happened.
It is possible that the soviets were behind it. Seems like something those kikes would do.

Jason White
Jason White

lol polish communists totally didn't exist
You should probably read up on such small time events like the bolshevik invasion on poland in 1920, smalltime events such as full scale war invasions can get ommited sometimes, i know.

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez

Remember, Poland had lots of Jews. Jews in Poland were Bolsheviks. They even had (((German Bolsheviks))). Thats who threw a revolt at the end of WW1.

Daniel Ortiz
Daniel Ortiz

Spics are beaners which are not white. A spic isnt a Spanish person.

Daniel Sanchez
Daniel Sanchez

I suspect
because I'd like to believe it
Still waiting for the "/pdf/ versed" user to show up and prove me wrong.

Owen Sanchez
Owen Sanchez

Wait, wait…

I kind of recall a guy from a thread posted here, like, months ago who started this all "Germans massacred by Polans in Danzig" bullshit. When confronted with the fact that it was all a propaganda, he said that he is gonna produce documents proving it to be truth rather than a propaganda, but "later, after he returns from the work". I recall checking the thread for a few days and he neither appear nor anyone produced said documents.

Also, there was obligatory "muh Polan subhumans" LARPer.

Soooooooooo, it seems we have a constant "tell the lie a thousand times" resident 'round these parts…

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Carter Baker
Carter Baker

That you, "subhuman"-kun?

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Adam Flores
Adam Flores

Sorry, jewish paid shill. We proved this decades ago.

Brandon Thomas
Brandon Thomas

Truth doesn't fear questioning and is the best shield against it.

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Blake Fisher
Blake Fisher

Yes, and we proved him wrong decades ago.

Chase Parker
Chase Parker

Any actual sources on this? All the "sources" here have nothing to back themselves up.

Joshua Rodriguez
Joshua Rodriguez

There is a shill or shills that pollute every thread with inane blather about "DACAryans" and "spics are the future of the white race" and blah, blah, blah.
Actual European blooded Spanish people are White.
The vast majority of people from Mexico, central America, and South America are not White. They are mestizos, mulattos, and mesoamerican indians. A FEW are White, especially in southern SA, but only a small fraction.
As I said, the vast majority are not and the ones who are invading the US are usually among the least White of all.
That is what I meant. That is what I mean.

Whoever that was, it wasn't me.
Polish are Whites with a proud history.
I reject any D&C that disparages Polish people.
However, there are a lot of lies surrounding WW2 and Poland at the time was heavily infested with kikes and under the influence of the jewish ussr.
As I said before, the massacres might have happened and if they did then they were probably committed by either soviet agents or a jewish paramilitary.
Could be a useful bit of information as another avenue to discredit the kike narratives surrounding WW2.
To be clear, I sympathize with the suffering of the Poles during WW2, but the Germans suffered even more. 15 million murdered AFTER the war, most of those killed in eastern Europe by the soviets.
So, Poles and Germans shouldn't feud. They should be angry at the actual villains: the kikes.

No.
All Whites are brothers.
Poles are White.
We must all come together under our many national flags to free us all from ZOG and stop and reverse the ongoing genocide of White people.

Cooper Powell
Cooper Powell

f8b0e7 thinks I didn't filter him
Get the fuck out of here kike.
This information dates back decades, read the thread again Jan. Also that "Kraut" was reacting to a "Polak" that was feeding anti-german propaganda in that thread. Either that was one angry butthurt stupid kraut or a kike, and I'm leaning towards the latter for both the shitposters. You're also probably a kike since you're taking Goebble's words out of context like all the filth do, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
archive.org/details/youtube-1RfwBR_hcG8
They shoa'd this from jewtube again, and it's also on the Impartial Truth's website as well. Also read Orphans of Versailles like the others recommended you lazy nigger, read the thread before you post this garbage.

impartialtruth.com/adolf-hitler-germany-invaded-poland/
impartialtruth.com/adolf-hitler-response-to-the-bromberg-massacres-1939/
Seriously this is like Baby's first red pill and talked about in virtually every book/documentary written about the war from Hitler's War to TGSNT by Dennis Wise.

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Blake Rivera
Blake Rivera

no proof
still not a single document proving this, you nazis really do like getting carried away
jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
Here you go.

They claimed that as casus belli. Whole story is pure fabrication for propaganda purpose.
This is the problem, of course. It's a giant circle-jerk of he-said she-said. Sure, the Germans could have horrifically massacred some people, buried them for several months, then photographed them and claimed the Polacks did it. Sure, they could have fabricated the documents they found in the Warsaw Foreign Ministry that detailed American pressure in 1937 to start a war. They could have made up or faked all the guerrilla warfare between Pols and Krauts in the interwar period in places like Silesia.
But the converse is also true, and the kikes have had a lot more time to do it than the Germans ever had. So here's what we can say: Anyone who finds definitive proof of a false flag attack, i.e. instructions to dress as Poles and murder Germans, written on 1939 paper with a 1939 typewriter and addressed to the proper people, or better yet an original unaltered film of Germans putting on Polish uniforms and picking up Polish guns to attack Gleiwitz, Don't have that? All you have is kike fan-fiction mouthed through some random Nuremberg torture victim? You sound like a conspiracy theorist to me! What's next, trying to convince me that communism is anti-semitic?

Polish are Whites with a proud history.
I reject any D&C that disparages Polish people.
So, Poles and Germans shouldn't feud. They should be angry at the actual villains: the kikes.
This. Never forget that the reason the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth fell apart was due to kike landowners bleeding it dry. We've all fallen for their tricks, and we need some serious soul-searching to find the source of this weakness and eliminate it, but we do that only after our enemies are dealt with.

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Caleb Sullivan
Caleb Sullivan

danzig

Jaxson Howard
Jaxson Howard

ALL EUROPEAN CULTURE IS CELTIC CULTURE
what is celtic squat

Carter Price
Carter Price

look for a book called "The Wehrmacht Warcrimes Bureau" it details german victims of warcrimes and has been confirmed by the author who interviewed the judges and victims post-war

Matthew Green
Matthew Green

Literaly no proof. You try to deflect the holocaust and atrocities in Poland and accuse, Poles of genociding germans. Pretty weak if you ask me.

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Asher Morgan
Asher Morgan

Here you go.
I'm looking at a cover of an alleged document dated 1940, written in German. The contents are unknown, its originality and the solidity of arguments it might or might not contain (as in: photos depicting actual events or simply used to support the narrative) is unconfirmed.

There are no additional independent, unbiased studies, no confirmations in other languages, by other researches or historians, nothing, just a bunch of theories leading to the same source, and bare in mind we're not speaking a sacred "Holocaust" cow, but a history that can be researched and nobody's gonna disgrace you for studying it, threaten, or kill you the moment you're gonna announce your attempt at learning the truth.

prove it wrong
Russel's Teapot, pretty much.

The official version is pretty much pic related - the events are dismissed as Nazi propaganda attempting to win hearts of Germans, so that they could support the war.

KIKEPEDIA!
It sums up things quite well and I know no other better, globally accepted source of information in English.

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John Brown
John Brown

<I know no other better, globally accepted source of information in English.
implying that the information is true because it is "globally-accepted".
So, this boils down to you believing that your theories on historical events are true because (((Wikipedia))) is a "globally-accepted source of information"? That's fallacious as fuck, you mongoloid.

Jack Young
Jack Young

I like how you avoid the rest of my arguments and focus on the single one brick in hope to shaken whole structure. But this shit won't fly here - I already expressed my opinion concerning kikepedia and predicted that it might be challenged.

So……..

So, this boils down to
To the alleged document being an easy to challenge propaganda unconfirmed by any other unbiased and independent studies both contemporary and coming from any decade after WWII. Yes, it boils down to exactly that, nothing less, nothing more.

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Noah Phillips
Noah Phillips

<I like how you avoid the rest of my arguments and focus on the single one brick in hope to shaken whole structure
You rail against a theory's legitimacy and truthfulness because a provided source is "unconfirmed" as there are supposedly no "additional independent, unbiased studies, no confirmations in other languages, by other researches or historians, nothing".
Then, you go on to completely dismiss the theory because the official narrative doesn't accept it. You cite (((Wikipedia))) as the authority on this matter.

You believe the official narrative to be true because (((Wikipedia))) is a "globally-accepted source of information", and therefore the information must be true. Don't blame me for pointing out that your conclusion is stupid.

The other parts of your post are just as ludicrous though. Where are the "independent and unbiased" studies and historians that back up the official narrative with solid evidence?

Aiden Ortiz
Aiden Ortiz

Actually no, user. The cited part from Wiki is just a reflection of the mainstream, official version which, until disproved, is considered a fact and truth.

Feel free to produce unbiased, independent studies confirming the version you want to be true. I have exactly zero problem with that.

Alternatively, you may still play dumb, and claim that the messenger (kikepedia) is more important than the message itself, but then at least don't insult my intelligence and don't pretend you're here to actually discuss stuff. I have exactly zero problem with that either.

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Luke Collins
Luke Collins

Kikepedia can be used as a source for baseline information. Were thousands of Germans murdered by Poles – Yes.

The lies are all centered around the usual leftist lies. Motivation, who to believe and the final stats. Of course they're going to claim that the Germans were lying when they upped the number for some evil reason, so by removing the kike bias from the article you're left with the truth that the Poles murdered between 5,800 and 58,000 Germans and this was the reason for the invasion.

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Isaac Anderson
Isaac Anderson

I would say, "Fuck off, kike" but I want you to stay right where you are. We'll come and see you, soon.

Levi Williams
Levi Williams

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Julian Allen
Julian Allen

the truth that the Poles murdered between 5,800 and 58,000 Germans and this was the reason for the invasion.
The reason for the war was Poland annexing large parts of Germany and their wish to annex even more. The fact that they forced a million Germans into exile and killed thousands adds to that.

Polish aggression against Germany, since 1918, was the reason for the war.

Ethan Sanders
Ethan Sanders

REEE NO SOURCE
get provided a source
REEEEE PROPAGANDA, SEE WIKIPEDIA

This isn't how any of this works you dumb pinkos jews, your tricks won't work here. That's a damn fine primary source, with some physical archaeological evidence it would be iron clad. It's up to you, the detractor, to prove beyond a shadow of doubt why it should be dismissed, but you can't and won't. It is not up to the source provider to prove why it isn't something it might not be.

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Ethan Morales
Ethan Morales

and killed thousands
And of course, there's no proof for that other than the one produced by, hear ye, hear ye, German ministry of propaganda.

This isn't how any of this works
This is exactly how it works. You make a claim, you back it up with some substantial arguments. Your arguments seem questionable, your claim doesn't hold. "Burden of proof" and all that.

Bonus points: nobody prevents anyone from researching the stuff. It's neither Holocaust, nor some fringe "Nazi UFO" stuff. It's part of an alleged history. Were it to be truth, it could've been gladly used by Germany (and other countries, I assume) as a leverage on many different occasions in the past, not to mention now, when Deutschland once again strives as hard as possible to be Yurop's bad guys.

But there are no such researches, nobody proved it to be truth. An urban legend and a hoax it is, then.

Now stop being faggots and seek more alluring conspiracy theory to follow.

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Ryan Watson
Ryan Watson

This is exactly how it works.

No, it isn't and the arguments were already provided. It's your job now, to provide a more substantiated sources that contradict or debunk the current source. You can't just keep demanding more sources when you haven't even rebuked the one in front of you.
You're dismissing them for completely subjective and biased reasons. I'm sure if it wasn't from a government, you'd dismiss them as being from 'unaccredited' sources like kikes do with the Red Cross or private citizens.

Eli Nelson
Eli Nelson

No, it isn't and the arguments were already provided.
Nah, you didn't. You may want to repeat it a million of times, but it won't change a thing. A Lie, to become perceived as truth has to be, indeed, repeated many times, but not just by anybody. In this case, this specific lie isn't even repeated, because it's simply too much of a bullshit to be accepted by anyone with an ounce of a working brain matter.

Even if by some miraculous twist of events it would become anything more than a hoax, it wouldn't change the fact that uncle's Adolf world tournee didn't start with attack on Polan - justified or not, it wasn't his first act of Germany's expansion. So, even Germans (and every contra-Polan force in existence) realize it's not worth pursuing, not worth wasting time and effort. At the very same time, people "study" flat Earth hypothesis, pursue the idea that Hitler is alive (or the contrary, that he was killed prior WWII) and question myriad of far less substantial conspiracies and urban legends.

But not this one. What brings us to…

You're dismissing them for completely subjective and biased reasons.
Actually no. I'm dismissing it, because it's not studied, researched, explored, discussed or proved and that the only things that support it are a questionable piece of paper produced by propaganda bureau and people who prefer to scream rather than calmly discuss stuff.

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Adrian Howard
Adrian Howard

and killed thousands
And of course, there's no proof for that other than the one produced by, hear ye, hear ye, German ministry of propaganda.
I don’t like your evidence, so it is NO PROOOOOF

First, that has not been investigated by the ministry of propaganda, but by police and German army. German army has his own unit to investigate war crimes.

Second, German army war crimes investigate unite has excellent reputation. Don’t take my word for it, read Alfred M. DeZayas.

Third, there were international observers, like in the case of Katyn.

Forth, if the Germans lie, then how about Katyn? Does their credibility depends on how convenient it for you?

Your defense of the Bromberg massacres is similar to the Soviet one of Katyn.
If the Germans were right about Katyn you have a weak case why they should lie in case of Bromberg. Both are crimes of the enemies of Germany.

Jacob Ramirez
Jacob Ramirez

1.
The alleged document describing alleged events was produced by the ministry of propaganda. And since its validity is questioned, so is everything it says, including who researched it. It's no rocket science: if a source is questioned then whatever it says is questioned also.

2.
See above.

3.
See above

4.
Feel free to produce a relevant thread. In this one we're discussing alleged atrocities against Germans by Polan.

If the Germans were right about Katyn
"X is right about something, so it absolutely has to be right about everything else too".

user, step back from the monitor for a moment and think about what you're saying here. You're trying to convince me that just because someone/some group of people/some nation gets/does something correct, it makes it infallible about everything else.

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Elijah Parker
Elijah Parker

PROOOOOOOFS

Carson Anderson
Carson Anderson

<You're dismissing them for completely subjective and biased reasons
Actually no. I'm dismissing it, because it's a questionable piece of paper
people who prefer to scream rather than calmly discuss stuff
mfw

was produced by the ministry of propaganda
No, it wasn't; it was the German Army and police you verbose kike. You could dismiss basically every primary source from WW2 with absurd standards like that.

Not even the guy provided the source, your smarmy sophistry is just that annoying; you're up there with 'dismiss all of history because it was written by men' feminists.

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Dylan Brown
Dylan Brown

Yeah. the ones coming from an unbiased, independent research would be nice.

No, it wasn't;
"German machine of war procuring a document used by said machine to justify the war isn't propaganda".

user…

you're up there with 'dismiss all of history because it was written by men' feminists.
And you're on the same level as everyone who accepts Holocaust at the face value, even if there's plenty of questionable aspects of it. But of course, nothing wrong with such an attitude, questioning is devil's invention, amirite?

mfw
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Dominic Reyes
Dominic Reyes

Yeah. the ones coming from an unbiased, independent research would be nice.
Like Polands post war one? 6 Million in Auschwitz! Poland’s track record for truthful reporting isn’t so good.

Elijah Myers
Elijah Myers

Poland’s track record for truthful reporting isn’t so good.
Feel free to start a thread about that if you think it's any interesting and worth discussing, form a claim, produce proofs you think are vital. I have null problem with that.

…while ITT we continue discussing the alleged document about an alleged atrocity, that for some mysterious reason wasn't properly researched for the last 50+ years.

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Asher Howard
Asher Howard

…while ITT we continue discussing the alleged document about an alleged atrocity, that
Nothing is just alleged, everything is underwritten by facts.

Your argument is simple, you don’t accept any evidence you don’t like.

for some mysterious reason wasn't properly researched for the last 50+ years.
Hard to top cynicism.
There is no mystery why crimes against Germans are not researched. The criminals are not investigating against themselves. Victors write their own history.

Luis Morales
Luis Morales

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Jayden Reed
Jayden Reed

hooktube.com/watch?v=oSLy5qn7q7c

Cooper Wood
Cooper Wood

Your argument is simple, you don’t accept any evidence you don’t like.
Nah,chum. My argument is simple: were such an event to be true, it would prove to be mighty useful for more than one political entity, a nation, a country. It is then entirely reasonable to assume that this part of alleged history should be researched, pursued, studied, tried to be proved right.

But it isn't. Apparently nobody, not even anti-Polan forces were interested in such a research for the last 50+ years. What brings us to the simple conclusion: it's obviously Polan's special forces guarding the secret and threatening everyone who comes anywhere near the event, making them suffer, changing their lives in hell or worse.

…No, wait! That'd be Jews reacting to the slightest suggestion that there's something wrong with Holocaust's official story. So, this leaves us with the only solution: it's a fake piece of propaganda prepared by German war machine and everyone realizes that. Simple as that. Of course, you're free to reject such an explanation, but to paraphrase yourself: "Your argument is simple, you don’t accept any argument you don’t like."

Hard to top cynicism.
Not really, no. Hard, substantial facts penetrate and shatter even the strongest wall of cynicism. These are not hard facts, merely an alleged document and a flawed claim built upon this document. A redundant, circular claim. "this happened, because this document says that, and we have the very same document to prove that".

There is no mystery why crimes against Germans are not researched. The criminals are not investigating against themselves. Victors write their own history.
I take it, everyone lost in this war, because no one is interested in performing such a research, right? Not even anti-Polan forces and movements, no independent researchers from other countries, no historians, no one?

Polan's special forces, I tell you. Without a doubt. Booooo, better hide your skin - they are after you.

Go back last 20 or 30 comments or so.

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Evan Campbell
Evan Campbell

changing your IP
Faggot.

Jace Flores
Jace Flores

not using automatic proxy switcher by default
2018

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Jace Murphy
Jace Murphy

Your argument is simple, you don’t accept any evidence you don’t like.

Nah,chum. My argument is simple: were such an event to be true, it would prove to be mighty useful for more than one political entity, a nation, a country.

Whom exactly? Your partners in crime?
Please keep it that unspecific and nebulous.

It is then entirely reasonable to assume that this part of alleged history should be researched, pursued, studied, tried to be proved right.
Yeah, like the Polish Death Camps?

But it isn't. Apparently nobody, not even anti-Polan forces were interested in such a research for the last 50+ years.

Who would be that nebulous anti-Polan forces?

What brings us to the simple conclusion: it's obviously Polan's special forces guarding the secret and threatening everyone who comes anywhere near the event, making them suffer, changing their lives in hell or worse.

Haha, such witty hyperbole!

Of course did Poland guard that and prevented any historical research, in archives and on the ground.

Needless to say that Germany’s archives were stolen and kept under lock, only selective used, by the enemies of Germany.

…No, wait! That'd be Jews reacting to the slightest suggestion that there's something wrong with Holocaust's official story.

Are you trying to sell us that Poland isn’t an ally to the jews, particular in relation to Germany and the holocaust? That Poland used torture on German POW to extract confessions to support the holocaust narrative?

So, this leaves us with the only solution: it's a fake piece of propaganda prepared by German war machine and everyone realizes that. Simple as that.

It is as “fake” as the German investigation on Katyn. There your type of evidence-free denial and slander against Germany was used as well.
Of course, German POW were tortured here too, to extract confessions of Germans murdering the Polish POW, which is evidently false.

Evidence of fakery for propaganda purposes exist plentiful for the side of the enemies of Germany, but none for the German side. Despite the enemies of Germany being in full control of all archives and assets of the Third Reich, they were never able to prove their allegations, but through evident fakery or extracted confessions.

Of course, you're free to reject such an explanation, but to paraphrase yourself: "Your argument is simple, you don’t accept any argument you don’t like."

Forged quote.
“You don’t accept any evidence you don’t like”

There is no mystery why crimes against Germans are not researched. The criminals are not investigating against themselves. Victors write their own history.

I take it, everyone lost in this war, because no one is interested in performing such a research, right?

Are you dumb?
The Victors control what is researched what evidence is kept and what is to be destroyed.

Germany, Italy and Japan had no say and control what so ever, how the history of the second World War was presented.

Not even anti-Polan forces and movements, no independent researchers from other countries, no historians, no one?

Ever so nebulous.
Name this “anti-Polan forces” powerful enough and interested to force an investigation about Polish crimes against Germans.

Polan's special forces, I tell you. Without a doubt. Booooo, better hide your skin - they are after you.

Special Forces as in Special Olympics?
Your stale hyperbole is tiring.

Juan Collins
Juan Collins

Whom exactly?
Can't you name a single anti-Polan entity aside of Germany? What are you doing ITT then?

Yeah, like the Polish Death Camps?
Like the lie of Polish Death Camps, yes.

Who would be that nebulous anti-Polan forces?
Humor me. Take a wild guess.

Needless to say that Germany’s archives were stolen and kept under lock, only selective used, by the enemies of Germany.
Convenient, isn't it? Also: were archives the only way to find the truth, archeology wouldn't exist, user. You may want to spend some time digesting this fact.

Polan & Jews
Feel free to start a thread concerning this alleged "friendship".

It is as “fake” as the German investigation on Katyn.
Ditto. Feel free to discuss every matter you feel like so. All in relevant threads.

Forged quote. “You don’t accept any evidence you don’t like”
Paraphrased. That's what a paraphrase is. English isn't your native language, eh?

Are you dumb?
Not quite, but I have my suspicions about you. Anyway…

The Victors control what is researched what evidence is kept and what is to be destroyed.
Soooooooooo, here we are, user. You apparently live in the reality where al "victors" are pro-Polan. Could you, for a moment go back to the real world? Like "real" real world? Thank yaw!

Name this “anti-Polan forces” powerful enough and interested to force an investigation about Polish crimes against Germans.
Like earlier. Humor me and try to guess.

Special Forces as in Special Olympics?
Special enough to prevent the rest of the world from discovering the truth, apparently. As such I suspect they all wear capes and spandex suits with big "P" letter worn over their chests.

Juan Garcia
Juan Garcia

Whom exactly?

Can't you name a single anti-Polan entity aside of Germany? What are you doing ITT then?

This is no guessing game. No counter questions. Answer!
Whom do you mean?

Grayson Allen
Grayson Allen

I like how you avoid addressing the rest of my comment and instead focus on the least important brick, in hope to shake whole structure. It's a typical strategy, just like an attempt to distract the opponent by steering a discussion towards other topic.

As for your answer: no. You want to talk about part of Polan history, let's check what you really know about it. Entertain me. Take a wild guess which country, nation, political forces, even groups or people might have enough anti-Polan tendencies to wish for this hoax to be true.

So? Are you gonna… NAME them, my non-native English speaking compadre, hiding behind tor?

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Julian Walker
Julian Walker

I like how you avoid addressing the rest of my comment and instead focus on the least important brick

Who would be powerful and interested enough in post-war world to research, force an investigation in Polish crimes on Germans?

Nobody

That is were your argument goes down the drain, that somebody would have investigated it after the war if Germany’s investigations were for real. Nobody would, because all the powerful in the post-war world were accomplices in crimes against Germans before and after the war. That is still true and they are even gloating about the genocide of Germans today.

Isaiah Moore
Isaiah Moore

Who would be powerful and interested enough in post-war world to research, force an investigation in Polish crimes on Germans?
Nobody

Let's see…

Yuropean Union crumbling, Polan opposing its lunatic schemes, one of anti-Merkel leaders during the early days of the Great Migrant Crisis.
Germanistan, France, Belgium, Italy during initial phase (IIRC) strongly opposing Polan, vilifying its government and people.

nobody

Russia being constantly anti-Polan since old days.

nobody

Jews being openly against Polans, making them look like Nazi partners in Holocaust

nobody

Jewish western colony colloquially known as "USA", with her last cacique Obango openly saying "Polish Death Camps"

nobody

"oi" UK, that'd gladly get rid of hordes of Polan immigrants, full of "Polish scum go home" and "subhuman!" screaming Londoners

nobody

And that's just the tip of an iceberg of your "nobody". It has been said plenty of times already ITT, that this is no Holocaust-type of "sacred cow". There are neither special forces, nor hidden agent-assassins pursuing anyone who would want to study the topic.

But nobody does. Why? Because there's nothing to study. And that's the bottom line.

Out of curiosity: where do you come from, broski?

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Cameron Stewart
Cameron Stewart

None of what you lists actually have an interest in clearing the name of National Socialism. EVERY single party listed here is interested in keeping the Holohoax alive and Germans down. Both are mutally inclusive.
You are just making yourself even more retarded than normal. As usual for a polish subhuman.

Dylan Morgan
Dylan Morgan

Still waiting for evidence of that Final Solution, jew soap, lampshades, as well as bear, eagle, and jew cage fights.

Carson Butler
Carson Butler

None of what you lists actually have an interest in clearing the name of National Socialism.

I like how you actually don't address arguments, but instead pass your opinion for a fact. Unfortunately for you…

WWII has ended more than 50 years ago, and the geopolitical situation has changed drastically plenty of times
Leftist Germany is now on better terms with Jews than conservative Polan
Researching the past doesn't count as "clearing the name of" Hitler

And so on, and so forth…

Cherry on top:
As usual for a polish subhuman.
Ha! I knew that at some point you're gonna break and say the zauberwort. So, are you gonna at least answer whether your presence here is pay-per-post, or pay-per-hour type of job?

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Cooper Sanders
Cooper Sanders

Leftist Germany is now on better terms with Jews
Which means they still hate real Germans and especially all variations of the German realm.
Leftist. And kikes. And "conservative" kike loving poland?
Sounds like a German hating soup.

Researching the past doesn't count as "clearing the name of" Hitler
And who is researching? Are you allowing them too? It is fucking illegal, you lying, subhuman spic like piece of shit.

And so on, and so forth…
Just like the constant holohoax propaganda from poland, LOL

are you gonna at least answer whether your presence here is pay-per-post, or pay-per-hour type of job?
I do it for free. The lying polish subhuman and its holohoax propaganda sickens me. Krauts should have killed every single one of you garbage before the second realm.

Jaxon Green
Jaxon Green

11795454
Looks like poland. Is he a relative of simon mol?

Ethan Carter
Ethan Carter

<official version which, until disproved, is considered a fact and truth.
disprove something that was never proved in the first place.

Benjamin Baker
Benjamin Baker

It is the nigger mentality that keeps the Holohoax alive and strong in their shithole.

Alexander Sullivan
Alexander Sullivan

I do it for free.
Nah, friendo. It has to be pay-per-hour. There are also your language peculiarities. Care to shed a light on your current whereabouts? Or rather "currently working for…" part of your resumee?

Nathan Reed
Nathan Reed

I know what you are talking about. That mad kraut must have pissed your SUBHUMAN kind off with being autistically truth fixtated.
Which is commendable tbh

Unlike the SUBHUMAN rat race of parasite next to the kikes that breeds like r selected spics and destroy neighboring country with gloablism practically practiced, more poolish youth abroad than at home, while chest beating like apes about nationalism and cry at the same time about the holohoax like you are the victim.
You sicken me. All of you. Just as you sicken the krauts who matter and real nationalists.

Jose Fisher
Jose Fisher

And my "work" wouldn't be similar's to that kraut's at the moment. But I'm sure when shots are fired our work will be mutual, that is killing kikes, exposing the holohoax and whip the lying polish SUBHUMANS in the face for hampering nationalist efforts in the last 80 years with the Holohoax.

Xavier Evans
Xavier Evans

That mad kraut
But user, do you truly believe Zig Forums won't recognize a guy LARPing for a German?

autistically truth fixtated
I spotted your weird language patterns long before you began to hide behind "typos", you may cease pretending.

And my "work" wouldn't be similar's to that kraut's at the moment.
At least it's pay-per-hour. Were it to be "pay-per-quality, you would be jobless, heh, heh, heh.

You sicken me
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Levi Hill
Levi Hill

"typos"
The SUBHUMANS' lack of education is astounding.

At least it's pay-per-hour. Were it to be "pay-per-quality, you would be jobless, heh, heh, heh.
He hates our rat race!
He exposes us!
"Shill shill!"
Pathetic.

Fuck I care.
Care enough to just post something "smug" while probably dying inside. Looking forward to see 2 addtional Aldi and Lidl in old PRUSSIA, you SUBHUMAN scum :^)

Being this obssessed with one kraut
Wouldn't be the first or the last

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Luis Green
Luis Green

And I CAN'T wait for the day the krauts don't have to take the holohoax bullshit anymore. Didn't they flip a finger to your face when you cried for more holohoax gibs?

When it is no longer illegal to question the holohoax, krauts and vatnik will tear your shithole apart again and make something decent out of it. Hopefully they do their varmint handling a little better this time :°)

Connor Sullivan
Connor Sullivan

Meanwhile Russian and Polish Bolsheviks, dressed as SS or Wehrmacht crossed the borders and killed Germans in border towns, looted and plundered it

Are you high on something?

David Diaz
David Diaz

Of course you can provide at least one piece of evidence that happened? "You are kike" is not evidence btw.

Nathaniel Barnes
Nathaniel Barnes

The SUBHUMANS' lack of education is astounding.
Strung a nerve, didn't I? You see it's not about typos that are suddenly all over your writing. It's the way you construct your sentences. It can't be a functional English-modeled mind behind it all.

Pathetic.
And yet, how very true, right?

Care enough to just post something "smug" while probably dying inside
You're saying it like it's any trouble to point to a folder with reactionary images. In your time, you're gonna amass similar library and use it almost subconsciously with little effort.
Behold!
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And I CAN'T wait for the day
Ok?

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Henry Sanders
Henry Sanders

Given all the lies surrounding the Germans in WW2, and given that those lies mostly revolved around making the Germans look like monsters, I suspect that the killings of thousands of ethnic Germans in Poland 100% happened.
It is possible that the soviets were behind it. Seems like something those kikes would do.

How and why Soviets would kill thousands of Germans in Poland, in Danzig area, before German invasion, considering that:
-USSR invaded Poland 17. 09.
-they didnt occupied that area until 1945
-Germany and USSR were allies at that time

And who are "polish bolsheviks"? Bolsheviks were faction of russian communist, in 1939 most of them were already dead or in gulags.

Juan Gomez
Juan Gomez

A typo means that I didn't mean to type it. Of course, if you weren't a complete INFERIOR, you would have understood.

And yet, how very true, right?
If by that you mean I shill for National Socialism and against the lying rats which keep the holohoax alive, yes, it is.

Nice avatar of yourself though. Perfect fit for you, a drooling slimy piece of shit.

Jason Reed
Jason Reed

A typo means that I didn't mean to type it.
There are errors we make subconsciously (like you did by joining this thread with little arguments and even less discussion skills) and those we make consciously in an attempt to fake things. "A feint" you might call that. Unfortunately, you're not half as clever as you think - whatever "clever" tactics you have in your store, Zig Forums has seen it all.

If by that you mean I shill for National Socialism and against the lying rats which keep the holohoax alive, yes, it is.
Nah, son. You're here to earn money, by posing for who you're not and making the movement look like a haven for uneducated people with low IQ.

Nice avatar of yourself though.
Hey, thanks!

Perfect fit for you, a drooling slimy piece of shit.
Quality, son! Low-tier insults are good for a kindergarten.

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Parker Moore
Parker Moore

There are errors we make subconsciously
It is not an error when I want to call you a SUBHUMAN that you are, SUBHUMAN scum.
Low IQ indeed.

in an attempt to fake things
Like your montly Holohoax fan fiction?

like you did by joining this thread with little arguments and even less discussion skills)
I feel no need to act civilized in front of a subhuman lying cockroach.
The Holohoax and other "nazi lies" are the holy grail of pooland, and no party with the power at the moment is interested in clearing the name of Germany. They all seek to demonize the Central European power that matters, period.
It is not even up to debate here.

whatever "clever" tactics you have in your store, Zig Forums has seen it all.
Just as we have seen all holohoax propaganda from your SUBHUMAN land.

Nah, son. You're here to earn money, by posing for who you're not and making the movement look like a haven for uneducated people with low IQ.
You make posts like this and you call me low IQ?
Dunning–Kruger in full effect.

Now you "subconciously" pick a nigger as your react pic. Must be your brain trying to identify with one of your national hero, simon mol.
Applause.

The kraut must have broken you bad
See you in the next Holohoax thread, rat

Ethan Brown
Ethan Brown

Current Germany is not even ruled by germans, time to stop be so defensive about it.

Oliver Smith
Oliver Smith

And if you are so mad about "larpers" looking for poolish crimes against krauts, why don't you go into the kraut/pol/ thread and ask them?
Since you probably know kraut enough and you are confident that opposing opinions are just "larp", ask them how they feel about you.
Or are they not even kraut enough for you?

Jayden White
Jayden White

But the legacy is real, and I'm tired of holohoax propaganda. It is like more than half the factors keeping nationalism down.

Jackson Mitchell
Jackson Mitchell

I'm trying to learn about this
What I would encourage you to do is look into is the ethnic cleansing of the peoples of the other territories Poland claimed around the time of the first world war. Because all the focus is on spreading lies about the massacres of Germans in order to bury Germany's complete justification in acting the way they did this is fairly unspoiled historical territory. People are also not brainwashed to reject even thinking about these things so it's fairly fertile ground.

While a cursory search will mostly give you endless victim playing by the Poles for the Ukrainian retaliation in Volhynia in 1943, looking deeper into things like the killings along the San River and the Polish expansion past Curzon Line will lead you to mostly uncontested descriptions of how the Poles treated minorities in their border regions. Even kikepedia is pretty honest about Polish expansionism from 1919 to 1939, and even it typically will not bring your attention to the treatment of minorities it will rarely deny anything, as with the killings of Germans. This is good to get a course understanding of what regions of conflict to look into; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_evolution_of_Poland#1919

Basically it establishes that this wasn't some special persecution based on some difficult to historically motivate on part of the Polish: we all know what motivated the kikes specific hatred of Germans, but instead part of a national interest of making territory permanently Polish by killing off the foreign elements. If you can make people accept the mandated atrocities against the non-Germans in Poland, which is again not hard because of lack of brainwashing, then it is fairly easy to ask them why, if the Poles did this to the other ethnic groups, would they not also have been doing it to the Germans.

let's bury this topic in some old general everyone has lost interest in so no one will see it
No, fuck off. The reasons for the outbreak of the the most disastrous war the white man has seen are so important they could warrant ten threads each dealing with a different aspect.

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Colton Lee
Colton Lee

Like it or not, lot of poles were killed in WW2 either by germans or russians, it's undeniable.

Juan Kelly
Juan Kelly

Strangely enough, the krauts in kraut/pol/ never bother to whine about this in every thread concerning Polish news, only the LARPers, likely americans.

Christopher Morris
Christopher Morris

So?
They were fucking retarded and willingly served as bait for the anglos. Then they were ground to complete poverty under communism, while their greatest rival, while cucked, was propped up to be fat and productive, despite being the number one enemy of jews.
And these retards still can't see where they went wrong in history.

That is why I'm asking gregorz about or whatever the fuck those white spics call themselves to ask the krauts in those threads what they think of them.
I and most people already know the answer.

Levi Morales
Levi Morales

Dude, they were butt fucked by both Germany and the literal communists, while they were actually battling commies back in the 20s, while Germany never lifted a finger to help.

That is why I'm asking gregorz about or whatever the fuck those white spics call themselves to ask the krauts in those threads what they think of them.
And what's the freaking point of that?
I and most people already know the answer.
No, you don't.

Alexander Lopez
Alexander Lopez

Low IQ indeed.
As repeatedly presented, user. But fret not. Given time and effort you might raise it to acceptable levels allowing you to live withing the society. Best of luck!

Like your montly Holohoax fan fiction?
Start a relevant thread…

I feel no need to act civilized
See, a civilized person stays a civilized person, no matter what. A simpleton attempting to emulate ways of a civilized man merely plays a role. And, like every play, it can't last forever. Sooner or later, the likes of you show your true faces, that of a simple-minded man.

It is not even up to debate here.
Yeah, start a relevant thread…

Just as we have seen all holohoax propaganda
Start…

You make posts like this and you call me low IQ?
Sure.

Dunning–Kruger in full effect.
Look who reads kikepedia!

Now you "subconciously" pick a nigger as your react pic. Must be your brain trying to identify with one of your national hero, simon mol.
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And if you are so mad about "larpers"
There's a big gap between being mad and feeling pity for someone, user. With time you're gonna learn that there's whole spectrum of possible reactions towards stuff. What an adventurous travel it's gonna be!

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Robert Rivera
Robert Rivera

Seriously… Denying the holocaust is a violation of their constitution. Something that authoritarian can only be put in place by someone trying to hide something. Stop letting jews re-write history.

Andrew Barnes
Andrew Barnes

That's the things that only germans can fix. It's their country.

You can't blame the americans, the brits, the ruskies and the poles forever.

inb4 LARPers with their "they will immediately nuke Germany if something goes wrong, goyim"

Jacob Gonzalez
Jacob Gonzalez

Did anyone even read "The Gentleperson's Guide to Forum Spies"?

Hudson Robinson
Hudson Robinson

while Germany never lifted a finger to help.
Germany got fucked after ww1 and lost some clay because the Entete wanted to create a buffer state to keep them down perfectly logical.
Why the fuck would they send troops after they lost their biggest fight to fight for some buffer state made to fuck them?

And what's the freaking point of that?
To see what the krauts really think of this. To put an end to this "larping".

No, you don't.
Never know if you don't ask.

As repeatedly presented
Subconciously being honest.
Nice.

withing
Don't worry. Maybe one day you shall master the english language too and the anglos will hopefully not call you subhumans as often anymore.

Start a relevant thread…
It is relevant here. I do what I want.

See, a civilized person stays a civilized person, no matter what.
Sounds like the poles when simon transmitted aids to their women, lol.
A simpleton attempting to emulate ways of a civilized man merely plays a role. And, like every play, it can't last forever. Sooner or later, the likes of you show your true faces, that of a simple-minded man.
Talking about your people abroad, gregorz? Or yourself? With the constant holohoax propaganda and and nationalism chest beating at the same time? That is what being simple minded is.

Yeah, start a relevant thread…
It is relevant here.

Sure
Typical simple minded, inferior toilet licking rat.

Again, not one of what you listed is interested in clearing the name of Germany, whose damage far outweighs whatever benefit they can receive from poking a worthless, subhuman shithole like poland, which is being colonized by German firms anyway.

Look who reads kikepedia!
Oh, you don't like it? How about I go literal:
-Subhuman poles, being so stupid, posted stupid bullshit while having exaggerated opinions of themselves.
Better, right?

There's a big gap between being mad and feeling pity for someone, user. With time you're gonna learn that there's whole spectrum of possible reactions towards stuff. What an adventurous travel it's gonna be!
Just ask the krauts what they think of you, apart from a few losers who visit you because of muh hwite brother meme.
You can do it right here, right now, at deutsch/pol/.
But I bet you can't take the truth anyway, consider that you ignored this point completely with your reply. Just like a shitskin being offended by the truth on the fucking internet.

Scum.

Agreed. But having the eastern subhumans shutting their trap about muh holohoax would help too.

Leo Ward
Leo Ward

And the krauts did extinguish a commie revolution right after ww1 in Bayern too. So they did it before the subhumans did.

Jaxson Nguyen
Jaxson Nguyen

Germany got fucked after ww1 and lost some clay because the Entete wanted to create a buffer state to keep them down perfectly logical.
Even when the nazis got power in the 30s, they didn't send troops to aid Finland in the Winter war either.
To see what the krauts really think of this. To put an end to this "larping".
To be frank, it's not evidence that the kraut/pol/ never do this whole hurr pole subhuman (which is really D&C bullshit that even Hitler would be angry at).
That's literally the duty of every nation, meanwhile, Poland stopped the expansion of the USSR and via that dethroned Trotsky.

This basically doomed communist worldwide plan forever since their plan was to link Russia and Germany into a single communist regime.

Hunter Lewis
Hunter Lewis

Goddamnit Zig Forums! Read the fucking link that tells you how to identify spies…

Brandon Jackson
Brandon Jackson

Even when the nazis got power in the 30s, they didn't send troops to aid Finland in the Winter war either.
Boo hoo. I thought people had to save themselves? Contradicting yourself here.
Krauts sent weapons up north.
What did the poles do for Finland then?
See where this is going?
Same when Hitler flattened them. Pooland invaded Czechslovakia and the Ukraine.

To be frank, it's not evidence that the kraut/pol/ never do this whole hurr pole subhuman (which is really D&C bullshit that even Hitler would be angry at).
They don't. That is what krauts are like. But it is obvious what their attitude toward the big lies and their old clay.

That's literally the duty of every nation, meanwhile, Poland stopped the expansion of the USSR and via that dethroned Trotsky.
And if the krauts were at that borders they would have too. Crushing a rag tag commie army would be easy for their veteran armies.
This bullshit stinks as bad as poles "saving" Europe from Turks, when the fact is that it was the krauts who ENDED the GREAT TURKISH WARS. Not the poles. Krauts pushed the turks back at the end.
You see the problem here? Poles really are just retarded, simple minded, loud mouthed worthless insects. It is annoying to see a bragging retard who gets beaten down to a pulp every time the big guys in the neighborhood gets tired of his shit.
Like vid related. A perfect example of the polish mentality, which one of their own pm called "negro mentality".
politico.eu/article/polish-foreign-minister-witold-waszczykowski-no-more-negro-mentality-toward-states-duda-obama/

Germany into a single communist regime
And that would require the uprising in Bayern to be successful first. Which the krauts fucking put out like candle in cold wind.

Jackson Price
Jackson Price

Thank you! <3

Lincoln Powell
Lincoln Powell

Boo hoo. I thought people had to save themselves? Contradicting yourself here.
Krauts sent weapons up north.
It's everyone duty to hold back communists, yet Hitler didn't send any troop, if he did, he would have good optics for everyone in eastern Europe & Baltic.
They don't. That is what krauts are like. But it is obvious what their attitude toward the big lies and their old clay.
You sure? Because this whole old clay shit is never paraded around by krauts, krauts are more concerned about AFD winning and getting their countries back.
And if the krauts were at that borders they would have too. Crushing a rag tag commie army would be easy for their veteran armies.
Except this commie army was battle hardened since they just beat the white ruskies and their allies, while Poland was at that point still poor. The fact they held the titles prevented the link up.
And that would require the uprising in Bayern to be successful first. Which the krauts fucking put out like candle in cold wind.
No, it's two point two, if the commies get past Poland, you would have east Germany before WW2, Germany cannot hold against internal insurrection PLUS foreign invader at the same time, especially when the Weimar was shit.

Brody Green
Brody Green

Sounds like you're pushing your preferred propaganda.

Aaron Howard
Aaron Howard

It's everyone duty to hold back communists, yet Hitler didn't send any troop, if he did, he would have good optics for everyone in eastern Europe & Baltic.
What did the poles do for Finns then? At least krauts did something.
That is the point.

You sure? Because this whole old clay shit is never paraded around by krauts, krauts are more concerned about AFD winning and getting their countries back.
Of course. That is a much more pressing concern for now.
But what will happen when they uncuck themselves?

Except this commie army was battle hardened since they just beat the white ruskies and their allies, while Poland was at that point still poor. The fact they held the titles prevented the link up.
For a worthless army like pooland's, probably. Then the krauts steamrolled them a few thousand kilometers back.

The fact they held the titles prevented the link up.

Now you are straight up fucking lying.
The fact they held the titles prevented the link up.

German Revolution of 1918–19

Polish–Soviet War in 1920

You are full of shit. I'm tempted to drop the facade and treat you like I treat gregorz up top.

Oliver Reed
Oliver Reed

What did the poles do for Finns then? At least krauts did something.
The poles hold back the tide for everyone in the 20s.
But what will happen when they uncuck themselves?
That's for the germans to decide, I hope they do not repeat past mistakes.
For a worthless army like pooland's, probably. Then the krauts steamrolled them a few thousand kilometers back.
You are talking about post-WW1 Weimar armies, which are frankly shit and defanged, only paramilitary like Freikorps are worth shit and they are small.
The fact they held the titles prevented the link up.
Again, it's a two fold plan.
If Germany didn't stop the insurrection in the 18-19, a communist Germany would attack Poland and create communist Germany - Russia.
If Poland didn't stop the invasion in the 20s, the Ruskies are just gonna straight up invade Weimar and link up with the remaining communist fighters.

Come the fuck on.

Sebastian Evans
Sebastian Evans

grzegorz
Wait, I recognize you! You're that Polish/Ukrainian (?) half-breed from some dumbfucktown in USA, raised in pathology, who can't fit into american society and loathes his family so much he shits all over Polan on Reddit and a few Zig Forums on chans?

Oh my fucking sides! How was it? андрей something something? я ебу the Internet isn't as big as it seems.

Subconciously being honest.
I'm consciously honest. I really perceive you as a low IQ and I think your comments confirm my suspicions.

Don't worry.
I don't, thanks for your concern.

I do what I want.
My guess is you're saying this plenty of times to your Mom. Or you simply wish to tell that, eh?

Sounds like the poles when simon transmitted aids to their women, lol.
I'm sure it makes sense to you!

Holohoax
Start a relevant thread, because ITT…
It is relevant here.
…it's not.

Typical simple minded, inferior toilet licking rat.
Of course, of course…

Better, right?
Not quite. I'd give it 2/5 for the effort, but these typos sting my eyes. Also stylistics, and grammar… Nah, not acceptable.

Just ask the krauts what they think of you,
"You're good guy, let's drink more" is what I've heard a lot each time I stayed in Deutschland. Nice country, by the way. You should visit it every now and then while it's still considerably white.

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Ian King
Ian King

And if the krauts were at that borders they would have too. Crushing a rag tag commie army would be easy for their veteran armies.
Weimar government was a friend of the Soviets and even block and Arms Shipment in Gdańsk, so i doubt it.

Aaron Howard
Aaron Howard

The poles hold back the tide for everyone in the 20s.
Like I said, bullshit fantasy just kike back in the great turkish wars.

That's for the germans to decide, I hope they do not repeat past mistakes.
Yeah, no mercy this time.

You are talking about post-WW1 Weimar armies, which are frankly shit and defanged, only paramilitary like Freikorps are worth shit and they are small.
So are they the same or worse than the poor shitty of pooland you cry so much for?
They were both poor. They both held up against communists, internal and external.
Who is saving whom here?

If Germany didn't stop the insurrection in the 18-19, a communist Germany would attack Poland and create communist Germany - Russia.
Likely.

If Poland didn't stop the invasion in the 20s, the Ruskies are just gonna straight up invade Weimar and link up with the remaining communist fighters.
Likely.

If the commies could have ever had succeeded against ANYONE west of Finland and Ukraine at this point in time.
Like I said, we wuz mentality and the attitude of that loser I posted in the youtube video.

They didn't save shit. They held themselves the same way Germans did. That is about it. Krauts never said they fought commies for Europe with just the freikorps. That is for Hitler's.
Only worthless, deluded retards have just two bullshit claims to cling on to, that they "saved" Europe.

Again:
-Great Turkish War: poles joined one battle. Krauts ended the wars and pushed turks out of the Balkan.
-Post WW1: Everyone saving himself. Nobody saved anyone.
I don't see how pooland was a "savior" at any point in time.

Wait, I recognize you! You're that Polish/Ukrainian (?) half-breed from some dumbfucktown in USA, raised in pathology, who can't fit into american society and loathes his family so much he shits all over Polan on Reddit and a few Zig Forums on chans?

NOW I AM AN UKROP HOHOL
This is what simple minded accusation looks like. Dunning Kruger down to the fucking letter.

I really perceive you as a low IQ and I think your comments confirm my suspicions.
Being a subhuman with this low self awareness must be difficult.
Flinging all kind of accusation but none sticks.

My guess is you're saying this plenty of times to your Mom. Or you simply wish to tell that, eh?1
YO MOMMA
And you call me low IQ.
How hilarious. Go look into a mirror.

"You're good guy, let's drink more" is what I've heard a lot each time I stayed in Deutschland. Nice country, by the way. You should visit it every now and then while it's still considerably white.
They drank with you before they crushed you back then too. Have fun.

You are a pathetic subhuman with the lowest amount of self awareness I have ever seen. The krauts are probably laughing at you in front of you because you can't understand them completely anyway.
Have fun with your hart 4 "friends" in the shady looking, amerimutt wannabe gaststätte pubs though.

Flinging wild accusations and calling people low IQ at the same time.
It is just like this white nigger here.
It is so representative of the poolish race. Loud mouthed and completely inferior.

Is that why there was no longer any commie uprising after the Freikorps crushed the first?

Easton Collins
Easton Collins

Like I said, bullshit fantasy just kike back in the great turkish wars.
Again, you like to remind everyone of this, but the turks are still in Germany today. The germans did not retake Constantinople, merely pushing them out like what the poles did.
Yeah, no mercy this time.
Last time was no mercy.
So are they the same or worse than the poor shitty of pooland you cry so much for?
They are worse because Weimar armies suck and are under-guns.
They were both poor. They both held up against communists, internal and external.
Poland was facing against actual USSR militaries, while the Germany was facing against communist insurrection (who were betrayed themselves) with some small arms, I would say Poland had it rougher.
If the commies could have ever had succeeded against ANYONE west of Finland and Ukraine at this point in time.
Again, this is the commie army that just rekted white Russia and its foreign battalions, the fact the Poles win at all was a miracle.
They held themselves the same way Germans did.
The germans did not fight against any USSR invasion back in the 19-20s, they fought against rebels for fuck's sake.

Gavin Wilson
Gavin Wilson

Is that why there was no longer any commie uprising after the Freikorps crushed the first?
This is because they were lacking in number, but they are still commie uprising and assissations even up to WW2.

Not to mention, most of the commies in Germany fled to the USSR after the failed revolution.

Julian White
Julian White

NOW I AM AN UKROP
I knew I recognize this weird English from someone. This is precious!

Being a subhuman with this low self awareness must be difficult.
Yeah, I feel for you.

And you call me low IQ.
Sure!

Go look into a mirror.
I did. I'm quite happy about what I've seen and I feel better now. Thank you!

You are
…plenty of things, but angry and desperate aren't among them. Looking at you and the way you write - it looks like it's a good description of your mental state.

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Parker Walker
Parker Walker

they were ground to complete poverty under communism,
It’s called Polnische Wirtschaft, Polish ecconomics, a jib at their incompetence in economic matter.

their greatest rival, while cucked, was propped up to be fat and productive,
You are retarded if you believe that.
Nothing was gifted to Germany, not even to West-Germany, everything had had to be earned by hard work.
Germany flourished despite reparations, demontages, extortion payments, East- and West-Germany.

To put that in perspective, Poland received from Germany their second industrial center, Silesia, with heavy and light industry, mining, etc. along with fertile land made arable by Germans, their houses including everything in it, Germans were forced to leave with nothing but a small parcel, their luggage was stolen too.
Poles were literally siting in made beds, of the Germans, at a standard they never had enjoyed before.
East-Germany was deprived from any heavy industry, was literaly looted by the Soviets who took away any industry not already destroyed. The Russians did even steal the second set of rails on two track railways. Still communist East-Germany had a much higher standard of living than the Poles. The difference is Germans.

Luke Thomas
Luke Thomas

West Germany was handled very incompetently and was gifted majorly through the Marshall Plan.

East Germany was also propped up majorly by the Soviet to maintain that "we also gud as capitalists, goyim" farce.

I do not deny the germans were smart industrialists, but it's not deniable that they were aided extensively by the winner in WW2 in matter of rebuilding.

Hudson Torres
Hudson Torres

Again, you like to remind everyone of this, but the turks are still in Germany today. The germans did not retake Constantinople, merely pushing them out like what the poles did.
And in all of Eastern Europe too, because krauts lost the wars, and the amerimutts forced them to take in "Gastarbeiter" that they didn't want.

Last time was no mercy.
Disagreed. Next time they should wipe the kikes AND the poles together in a real holocaust.

They are worse because Weimar armies suck and are under-gunNED.
Yet they stopped their own commie uprising. And they were smart enough to elect Hitler to fix their shit. Poles were and still are inherently inferior, that is why they were dumb enough to be fooled by anglos and get fucked till today.

Poland was facing against actual USSR militaries, while the Germany was facing against communist insurrection (who were betrayed themselves) with some small arms, I would say Poland had it rougher.
And then Krauts pulled themselves up again out of it. And crushed the commies bad later.

Tell me, if pooland were actually capable like you believe, what the fuck happned in 1939 then? That was quite a short time for such a capable army to get crushed, while krauts held out much worse for longer.

Or maybe both the pole rag tag forces and the soviet slaves were just shit and didn't really do anything.

Again, this is the commie army that just rekted white Russia and its foreign battalions, the fact the Poles win at all was a miracle.
This is implying the soviets put everything they had into this fight with poland.
Time to source your claims then.

That the USSR forces of the 1920 wasn't shit.
And that they really cared about this invasion of poland to put everything they had in it they didnt

The germans did not fight against any USSR invasion back in the 19-20s, they fought against rebels for fuck's sake.
Ditto. Start proving your claim and tell us how good the soviet army was in 1920. I haven't started to treat you like I treat that polish subhuman, so my judgment of your arguments has no ego in it.
If you are right, I will admit it.

Yeah , Krauts did a real good job in their country. Unlike poles who got fucked because of their inabilities.

No more accusation? Ran out of it already, you filthy, stupid subhuman?
First, I am a mutt larping ami.
Second, I am an ukrop hohol diaspora.

Now I give your the third option: A subhuman, retarded, pig headed, loser spic like polish subhuman.
You can call me that :^)

Go now, drink more bier with your Hartz IV kraut "friends" in shady pubs.
You can pray to your semite god every day that the krauts hopefully will stay drunk, placated cattle.
But another funny moustache man will come. It has always been their history.

Nothing was gifted to Germany, not even to West-Germany, everything had had to be earned by hard work.
Germany flourished despite reparations, demontages, extortion payments, East- and West-Germany.
Never denied how hard working krauts are. I meant that the values of krauts are so great that it would have been foolish to just wipe them out, even for the kikes.
While pooland was so worthless it was thrown to the reds.

Poles were literally siting in made beds, of the Germans, at a standard they never had enjoyed before.

East-Germany was deprived from any heavy industry, was literaly looted by the Soviets who took away any industry not already destroyed. The Russians did even steal the second set of rails on two track railways. Still communist East-Germany had a much higher standard of living than the Poles. The difference is Germans.

Completely agreed.

The shitpole with no self awareness in this thread is the proof of that. Loud mouthed, inferior nigger minded subhumans, their lot.

Aiden Moore
Aiden Moore

Two things:

1. German is the heartland of Europe, it is filled with smart and strong people with good ethics, the land is blessed with good iron and wood which help them to industrialize, they also serve as the center, this makes Germany grow strong as long as the leader is half competent. Even now if Germany militarizes again, they would surely have the best land force in Europe.

2. Poland in the 30s period had poorer leadership and economy, making them lagging behind an industrialist giant like Germany.

But that's not to say Poland ought to be conquered by Germany or vice versa, because that's pure D&C bullshit spread by fake germans and abusing the sincerity of polish nationalists (who rightfully note that a shitload of poles were killed in WW2).

Also, about proof, this is the invasion force of the USSR in the war against Poland in the 1920:
In the course of 1920, almost 800,000 Red Army personnel were sent to fight in the Polish war, of whom 402,000 went to the Western front and 355,000 to the armies of the South-West front in Galicia. The Soviet manpower pool in the West was estimated at 790,000. The Soviets had at their disposal much military equipment left by withdrawing German armies, and modern Allied armaments (including armoured cars, armoured trains, trucks and artillery) captured from the White Russians and the Allied expeditionary forces following their defeat in the Russian Civil War. With the new forces, Soviet High Command planned a new offensive in late April/May.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Soviet_War_in_1920

While comparatively, the freikorps only fought against some small armed opponents, not against an army.

Colton Gray
Colton Gray

And now you can start asking the krauts in their thread what they think of you. Come on, we will be waiting.

Christopher Ramirez
Christopher Ramirez

No more accusation?
Well, андрей, since you can't deliver any proof for the alleged event discussed ITT, other than the questionable document one procured by German war machine and you already fell so low as to throw little-effort, rusty insults, then what you're expecting in return? A mockery you are, a mockery you get.

You can call me that
I already know who you are.

Go now, drink more bier with your Hartz IV kraut "friends" in shady pubs.
Unfortunately German beer doesn't suit me, I prefer something else.

Come on, we will be waiting.
There's no "we", user. You're alone, one-man show of poor quality, I'm afraid.

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Owen Wilson
Owen Wilson

This thread has gold.

Angel Miller
Angel Miller

1. German is the heartland of Europe, it is filled with smart and strong people with good ethics
No shit.

the land is blessed with good iron and wood which help them to industrialize
And pooland has no iron or wood? And Germans have everything else aside non organic resources?

they also serve as the center, this makes Germany grow strong as long as the leader is half competent
The center of trade and the center of attacks.

Even now if Germany militarizes again, they would surely have the best land force in Europe
No question.

2. Poland in the 30s period had poorer leadership and economy, making them lagging behind an industrialist giant like Germany.
Germany had corrupted "leadership" under the Weimar Republic by design. They pulled through.
I get this point though. Not disagreeing.

Also, about proof, this is the invasion force of the USSR in the war against Poland in the 1920
Just pure numbers. How competent were they? The White Army functioned loosely and the organization was poor, like Republican China. Defeat was inevitable.
I asked about competency.

андрей
Andrei? You seem to keep insisting that I'm a Hohol mutt.
Are you this low IQ?

since you can't deliver any proof for the alleged event discussed ITT
Didn't come here for that. Don't tell me that you didn't even check my ID.
To be subconciously controlled by your own low IQ to not checking things, I pity the polish SUBHUMANS :^)
No awareness at all, as said.

other than the questionable document one procured by German war machine and you already fell so low as to throw little-effort, rusty insults, then what you're expecting in return? A mockery you are, a mockery you get.
The user replied to you already made his point. And I did too.
You see, gregotz or janunsz or whatever, laws aren't permanent, and when an actual investigation is ALLOWED, then we will talk.

Again, no current party with power has interest in clearing Germany's name because this has real potential political damage. While at the same time, the poles are stupid subhumans who will continue to get fucked like dear Charlie Zelenoff up top, for being a retarded cunt.

I already know who you are.
So the amerimutt, the hohol or what? I already gave you my real identity:
Polish subhuman :^)
You can call me that.

Unfortunately German beer doesn't suit me, I prefer something else.
Doesn't drink with krauts
"You're good guy, let's drink more"
Your inherent inferiority is making hard for you to even keep your lies consistent, isn't it?
Krauts drink more beer than hard liquor. Slav immigrants like hard liquor better. If you don't drink beer with them at all I don't think you even know a single poor kraut, much less a decent one.

There's no "we", user. You're alone, one-man show of poor quality, I'm afraid.
Ok, then just show me what the krauts here think of you then. Show ME :^)
Put an end to the "LARP", will you?

Slimy SUBHUMAN inferior scum :°)

I typing like that kraut must drive you insane

Angel Garcia
Angel Garcia

Just pure numbers. How competent were they?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_westward_offensive_of_1918–19

Read this for more information, but I would say they are more competent than the commies revolutionaries in Bayern (who were far smaller in number and in equipment).

Aiden White
Aiden White

Of course. I will look into this later and determine if krauts could have held against this tide on their own too.

Luis Williams
Luis Williams

As someone said earlier, the Weimar government was in cahoot with the Soviet, so nope.

The freikorps were a paramilitary forces numbering around thousands of volunteers with some improvised armor cars, it would be a valiant struggle, but it would be a massacre.

Isaac Miller
Isaac Miller

Andrei?
Yep.

Didn't come here for that.
Of course, you didn't (a friendly, reassuring smile).

The user replied to you already made his point.
And I've already answered, thus ruining this point.

So the amerimutt, the hohol or what?
Your anger speaks volumes, heh, heh, heh.

Krauts drink more beer than hard liquor.
Of course, they do, of course (warm, reassuring smile).

Show ME
Here's what you're looking for (unzips pants)

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Jaxon James
Jaxon James

It makes sense for this fake-german ukie to hate the poles, but it's dishonest to pretend this kind of german fanboyism while you are hating poles for the shit they did the Ukie land.

Owen Mitchell
Owen Mitchell

This will be the first time I have ever said this in sincerity… Hitler did nothing wrong…

Robert Jackson
Robert Jackson

West Germany was handled very incompetently
That is the reason it is Europe's biggest economy.

and was gifted majorly through the Marshall Plan.
There was no gift. In contrast to everybody else Germany got a loan not a gift and the smallest amount of all of them. Greece got more and England and France got the most.
In contrast to the amount the USA was stealing from Germany, it was totally insignificant.

East Germany was also propped up majorly by the Soviet
So stripping of industry is now propping up?

to maintain that "we also gud as capitalists, goyim" farce.
Try reading a history book.

I do not deny the germans were smart industrialists, but it's not deniable that they were aided extensively by the winner in WW2 in matter of rebuilding.
That is just counterfactual, alternative history.

Owen Lewis
Owen Lewis

Well, Trump said something very important about emigration: "you're sending your worst". No truer words has been spoken. The difference between who leaves and who stays is enormous, no matter what country, what nation.

Aaron Anderson
Aaron Anderson

That is the weakest argument in all of this. They sympathized with the leftist cause, being leftist themselves. But their was and still is schism in leftism.

Yep
So fucking sure that I'm the hohol ukrop mutt you hate. Show me where he touched you.

And I've already answered, thus ruining this point.
With a shitty, retarded list of factions that hate Germans.
But I too was foolish for expecting honesty out of a typical subhuman that is a pole.

Your anger speaks volumes, heh, heh, heh.
Being a subhuman pole makes me want to shoot myself everyday :^)
It is hard.

Of course, they do, of course (warm, reassuring smile).
Excuse me, are you larping as if you are in a novel?

Here's what you're looking for (unzips pants)
MUH DIK
Too bad simon mol did it better than you could.

Now you are just full of shit. I am very dissappointed.
I didn't insult you and you just had to give in to your base instinct inherent your poolish bloood.
Ukie land was just an example. If the poles are truly competent enough to take the land and improve it, like krauts did all over Europe, then they should do it.
The same reason I support the krauts wiping pooland out.
Get it?

You poles really are low IQ subhumans. This whole thread you though I was defending the hohols.

Jesus fucking Christ.
How pathetic.

Isaiah Ramirez
Isaiah Ramirez

List your source, because history shows that:

1. Marshall Plan aids Germany reconstruction greatly.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_plans_for_German_industry_after_World_War_II
With the Western Allies eventually becoming concerned about the deteriorating economic situation in their "Trizone"; the US Marshall Plan of economic aid to Europe was extended also to Western Germany in 1948 and a currency reform, which had been prohibited under the occupation directive JCS 1067, introduced the Deutsche Mark and halted rampant inflation.

2. Soviet poured money into East Germany to maintain the "we had capitalist standard of living" farce.
Still finding sources, but people remark that GDR's standard of living was higher than the rest of Eastern Europe to maintain the farce.

Chase Moore
Chase Moore

Hearing an insect like a pole saying this is truly divine comedy.

Ethan Hill
Ethan Hill

Freikorps were WW1 vets, they weren't fascists.

What also doomed the german communists is that they are betrayed the german socdems, as it is natural for leftists to betray each other.

Parker Richardson
Parker Richardson

So fucking sure that I'm the hohol ukrop mutt you hate.
Be careful, андрей. Anger like that and you might get a stroke, you know. What would Zig Forums do without you? The IQ would immediately jump to levels reserved for the white race.

With a shitty, retarded list of factions that hate Germans.
Nah, that was +/- 10 comments later.

Being a subhuman pole makes me want to shoot myself everyda
It's ok, a mankind is going to mourn your departure. Godspeed!

Excuse me,
No harm done!

Too bad simon mol did it better than you could.
Your erotic fantasies involving certain gentleman from Africa are better suited for other boards, you know. And if you're planning to describe your actual sexual experiences with said guy…
…please don't.

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Ryder Ward
Ryder Ward

Freikorps were WW1 vets, they weren't fascists.
They weren't LEFTISTS*

Andrew Sanchez
Andrew Sanchez

In defense of the normies… I have often been called out for talking about einstein and nazi's being told that I have no idea what I'm talking about and REEEEEE… But no one ever offered any facts for my consideration. Maybe it was for the best, because this is the kind of think you have to go looking for to accept.

Is it so hard to believe, after all the evidence of the west being deceived and the methods used to do so, that the methods had been used successfully for such a long time as to include deception about the nature of nazi's? I do remember hearing about how propaganda was used to drag the USA into WW2 but, once again, was never offered any facts as to the nature and depth of the propaganda, just the false-flag operation used to do so.

I am very grateful for social liberals. They are conditioning even slightly reasonable and honest individuals to become solid and refined in their stand for absolute truth.

Josiah Murphy
Josiah Murphy

Yes?

андрей
What do you gain by keep calling me a hohol?
This is comical. If I was really mad for them I would have hated the krauts for their actions, but I don't.

It is interesting observing the IQ limit of the polish subhumans though.

It's ok, a mankind is going to mourn your departure. Godspeed!
Careful, gregorz. The anglo might call you a subhuman again for not learning to speak properly while leeching their benefits.

Your erotic fantasies involving certain gentleman from Africa are better suited for other boards, you know.
Pic related LOL

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Alexander Bennett
Alexander Bennett

once again, was never offered any facts as to the nature and depth of the propaganda, just the false-flag operation used to do so.
This is also why people need to read that gentleman's guide to forum spies…

Alexander Bell
Alexander Bell

What do you gain by keep calling me a hohol?
Why ask, андрей?

If I was really mad
Aren't you? Then why you type so much with so many typos and often add another comment just a moment after you last post, what suggests that you were typing in a hurry?

Careful, gregorz.
Oh I am.

Pic related LOL
Ok?

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Carter Gonzalez
Carter Gonzalez

I do not want to discourage research on the subject or conceal the truth for the sake of convenience but can we please all just get along, be respectful, admit bilateral mistakes and tone down the DnC banter a bit?

At this moment of time kikes want both Germans and Polish demonized and brutally exterminated. Let's not let past misdeeds become a fracture point for insemination of the kikes' plans.

Luke Reed
Luke Reed

Hear! Hear!

Brayden Garcia
Brayden Garcia

I was getting mad at your stupidity and brazen lies, you stupid fucking cockroach.
I wasn't mad for the tragedies of the hohol.
Goddamn. You were so sure this entire thread that I was defending hohol?

Aren't you? Then why you type so much with so many typos and often add another comment just a moment after you last post, what suggests that you were typing in a hurry?
Because it is a lot to type in a small window and I had to be quick before you insects spam lies again.

You lots can't even fucking read. No wonder why tommy over the pond is so fucking pissed. There should be real standards for receiving welfare tbh

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Owen Parker
Owen Parker

Well, no. What you're seeing here is another DC drama by андрей, a LARPing Murikan of Polish/Ukrainian origin. Every now and then he pops up on *.chans, reddit and other places where he poses as a German, act all ubermensch and shit, only to get his ass handed to him. at this point he is 99% incoherent insults.

Know the enemy, recognize the enemy, mock the enemy.

I was getting mad
And you successfully achieved this state. I'd say congrats, but heck, it ain't no achievement to be happy about.

I had to be quick
Nah, you didn't have to. You have all the time to think about your answers.

You lots can't even fucking read.
Then how come we (we?) are trashing you? DUN-DUN-DUn (the plot thickens!)

Ayden Ortiz
Ayden Ortiz

Still the baseless accusation. Balls to the wall now, eh?
Can't retreat because you would look WEAK and RETARDED. So keep pushing because that just makes you retarded.
Kraut Übermenschen
Calling themselves kraut
only to get his ass handed to him
HE IS A HOHOL BELIVE ME PLEASE
Now tell me what kind of hohol call himself hohol?

Vid related.
I pity you worthless subhumans.
That retard is so similar to you. Loud mouthed subhuman retard that never thinks before it speaks. And gets asswhooped constantly in real life.

Know the enemy, recognize the enemy, mock the enemy.
You certainly fail the first two parts. Your inferiority makes sure that you can only do the latter. Like a nigger.

And you successfully achieved this state. I'd say congrats, but heck, it ain't no achievement to be happy about.
Like a civilized man being upset about a nigger, so was I upset about the polish subhumans on this basket weaving Vietnamese art hub.

Nah, you didn't have to. You have all the time to think about your answers.
It is already 5:30 Janunsz. I have to cook, eat, call people, and enjoy myself shooting subhuman poles in my own RO2 mod.

Oh wait, sounds too similar to the kraut that you claimed to play World of Tanks? :°)

Then how come we (we?) are trashing you? DUN-DUN-DUn (the plot thickens!)
You can't even perceive numbers and awareness. Like shitskins with the mirror test tbh
Most people in this thread agree that you are worthless and poor, while krauts are productive and rich.
That is a win for me too. I always cheer for the truth.

Camden Jones
Camden Jones

And you should think twice before dissing the amerimutts. They are the reason the vatniks and krauts haven't steamrolled you yet.

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Caleb Moore
Caleb Moore

Still the baseless accusation.
Still no proof for the alleged massacre, still a mockery. Carry on, андрей!

Vid related.
Nah, watching Expanse, not feeling like stopping it.

You certainly fail the first two parts.
Nah. I recognized you on the spot and quickly confirmed who I'm dealing with, heh, heh, heh.

Like a civilized man being upset about a nigger
Please, no assumptions on how a civilized man behaves. It's not quite your level, I'm afraid.

It is already 5:30
Happens

I have to cook, eat, call people
…also post incoherent insults online. Ya, the Internet though life.

You can't even perceive numbers and awareness
Ok?

Ma, I just thought about adding something…
It's ok, son. Ya kids and your low attention span is pretty much common nowadays. We got used to.

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Carson Ramirez
Carson Ramirez

Still no proof for the alleged massacre, still a mockery. Carry on, андрей!
Which massacre was that? In Hoholland? Like I said, don't care about the Hohol.
Or do you mean your crimes against the krauts who fed you and brought you civilization? Like a bunch of ungrateful chimps that you are?
Either way, if the krauts are open to investigate crimes against their people again, I'm sure the Hohol will do to.
East and West, pouring like a flood on old Prussia again, cleansing it of the cockroaches named polish "people".

Expanse
Watching modern kike media starring nu males made by leafs
You typing this while somehow not distracted from your TalmudVision
WEW

Nah. I recognized you on the spot and quickly confirmed who I'm dealing with, heh, heh, heh.

…also post incoherent insults online. Ya, the Internet though life.
hehehehe
Is this cockroach serious?

It's ok, son. Ya kids and your low attention span is pretty much common nowadays. We got used to.
How old are you anyway? You are watching cucked kike media for fuck sake! Bragging about it like some peasant janunsz touching the TV for the first time.

So this entire time, your lower IQ and inferior brain CONVINCED you that I was some crying Hohol Amerimutt. Now you fucked up, there is no way to back down so you double down on your retardation.
Applauded.

Kayden Baker
Kayden Baker

Which massacre was that?
"Ma, my mind is clouded, I can't tell my head from my ass!"

Ok, андрей, ok…

WEW
Wew indeed.

Is this cockroach serious?
Which one? One of many living in your flat? Try some pesticide, андрей…

How old are you anyway?
Here are my credentials (unzips pants)

Applauded.
Thanks. It's nice to be appreciated, although it didn't require much of effort…

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Aaron Lopez
Aaron Lopez

Still no proof. Still doubling down on calling me ,um, "Andrei"?
Like I said.
What kind of Kraut calls himself Kraut?
What kind of Hohol calls himself Hohol and is pro kraut?
What kind of Amerimutt calls himself a mutt?

This is the very limit of the brain of a typical polish subhumans, people. No wonder why.

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Ethan Wright
Ethan Wright

Still no proof.
I know, андрей. You won't find any, that's pretty much granted.

What kind of Kraut calls himself Kraut?
A green one.

What kind of Hohol calls himself Hohol and is pro kraut?
A blue one.

What kind of Amerimutt calls himself a mutt?
A yellow one.

WHAT DID I WIN?

This is the very limit of the brain of a typical polish subhumans, people.
Ok….?

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Alexander Harris
Alexander Harris

user you don't debate jews that's not how it works, you won't be playing the same game if you debate while you will try to find some point that holds, the jew will try to convince the audience.

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Isaac Jones
Isaac Jones

Are you getting delirious now, my dear cockroach? That your name calling fell flat on your already flattened brain and you can't even comprehend it anymore?
I mean no matter how hard you try, I won't be the hohol that touches you in your private places. Sorry.

a green one
Well duh. They are self hating.

A blue one
Democrat? In hoholland?

A yellow one
A spic?

Now you are getting incoherent. No problem though, just a reminder that your baseless accusation and lack of awareness is here for everyone to see.

The limit of the subhumans. How true. Hitler and friends should have liquidated you. The kikes too.

Evan Morales
Evan Morales

Are you getting delirious now
Heh, no, андрей. Why ask? You want to compare the feelings, or something?

Well duh.
You were the one to ask…

Democrat?
Dunno.

A spic?
Dunno.

Now you are getting incoherent.
Nah, андрей. You're simply too tired. Go to sleep, everything's gonna be better tomorrow.

Mason Bailey
Mason Bailey

I told you before, gregorz.
I am prime polish subhuman: Fuckmyface Jasnuzn, first of my line. Born out of Vodka.
Not Andrei the displaced Hohol.

Yeah, I will take my break now. You can further make a fool of yourself by insisting that I'm an amerimutt hohol.

Colton Morris
Colton Morris

I told you before, gregorz.
андрей, андрей, андрей… you really think any of what you're saying matters?

Not Andrei the displaced Hohol.
Ok, андрей!

Yeah, I will take my break now.
Oh look, we broke him.

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Lincoln Garcia
Lincoln Garcia

Do you really think you are getting a raise out of me with "andrei"? It is not some voodoo magic word you know.
Only niggers and other subhumans are so superstitious. Oh wait lol
dailypole.com/foreign-minister-we-walked-away/
Walked away lol. You just begged for more mutt gibs, again.

You sure "broke" me with your stupidity, typical of a subhuman inferior.
Going to shoot some subhuman poles in my vidya now. And you just sit there and finish your kike scifi propaganda made by cacucks :°)

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Kayden Reyes
Kayden Reyes

Do you really think you are getting a raise out of me with "andrei"?
Huh? I was being nice with you, андрей.

Only niggers and other subhumans are so superstitious.
Ok?

Walked away lol.
Ok? Bon voyage.

You sure "broke" me with your stupidity, typical of a subhuman inferior.
Ok?

Going to shoot some subhuman poles in my vidya now.
Ok?

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Asher Martin
Asher Martin

List your source, because history shows that:
Why don’t you read your source?

The first "level of industry" plan, signed by the Allies on March 29, 1946, stated that German heavy industry was to be lowered to 50% of its 1938 levels by the destruction of 1,500 listed manufacturing plants.

Steel plants thus made redundant were to be dismantled. Germany was to be reduced to the standard of life it had known at the height of the Great Depression (1932).

Timber exports from the US occupation zone were particularly heavy. Sources in the US government admitted that the purpose of this was the "ultimate destruction of the war potential of German forests." Extensive deforestation due to clear-felling resulted in a situation which could "be replaced only by long forestry development over perhaps a century.".[8]

German economy as a whole was the prohibition against importing high-grade Swedish iron ore. Until that was lifted in 1948, German steel plants had to rely on low quality local ore which required almost twice the amount of coal to process. Moreover, the Germans were also forced to sell their steel at wartime prices until April 1, 1948, which meant large losses for the industry.

The Allied Control Council set the price for German coal at half what it cost to produce it.[23] From May 1945 until September 1947 the US, UK, and France exported German coal for $10.50/tonne, while the world price hovered closer to $25–$30 per tonne. During this period the Allies thus took roughly $200,000,000 out of the German economy from this source alone.

According to the UNRRA in 1946–47 the average kilocalorie intake per day was estimated to be 1,080,[24] which according to Alan S. Milward was an amount insufficient for long-term health.[25]

Germans were starved to death.

Neither the Italians nor the Dutch could sell the vegetables that they had previously sold in Germany, with the consequence that the Dutch had to destroy considerable proportions of their crop. Denmark offered 150 tons of lard a month; Turkey offered hazelnuts; Norway offered fish and fish oil; Sweden offered considerable amounts of fats. However, the Allies disallowed the Germans to trade.[27]

the combined US and UK expenditure on relief food in Germany through GARIOA and other means stood at a total of close to $1.5 billion (that were charged to the Germans).

The Allies confiscated large amounts of German intellectual property (patents and copyrights, but also trademarks).[29] Beginning immediately after the German surrender and continuing for the next two years the US pursued a vigorous program to harvest all technological and scientific know-how as well as all patents in Germany. John Gimbel comes to the conclusion, in his book "Science Technology and Reparations: Exploitation and Plunder in Postwar Germany", that the "intellectual reparations" taken by the US (and the UK) amounted to close to $10 billion.

Plain robbery

almost all of which were either new to American industry or 'far superior' to anything in use in the United States."

abducting German scientists and technicians, or simply by interning German businessmen if they refused to reveal trade secrets

The USA did that too.

in the contracts that led to sovereignty for West Germany in 1955 the West Germans had to formally renounce all claims to possible compensation for all types of assets taken, including scientific and technical know-how.

The property taken in Germany was without regard to the rules of the Hague Convention, which prohibits the seizure of enemy private property

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_plans_for_German_industry_after_World_War_II

So Germany was mugged, robbed at gun point, then the robber did throw her some pennies to call a doctor.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Joshua Thomas
Joshua Thomas

The dismantling of German industry continued, and in 1949 Konrad Adenauer wrote to the Allies requesting that it end, citing the inherent contradiction between encouraging industrial growth and removing factories and also the unpopularity of the policy.[46] (See also Adenauers original letter to Schuman, Ernest Bevins letter to Robert Schuman urging a reconsideration of the dismantling policy.) Support for dismantling was by this time coming predominantly from the French, and the Petersberg Agreement of November 1949 reduced the levels vastly, though dismantling of minor factories continued until 1951.
Oh please.

Landon Walker
Landon Walker

NOW I AM AN UKROP HOHOL
Nothing wrong with Ukrops
t. Ukrop

Jackson Lee
Jackson Lee

Where are the six million bodies again?

Aaron Ross
Aaron Ross

Do you really need to ask? They're in his mind.

Julian Flores
Julian Flores

of course not
But since the poolake kept insisting I am one
They really are just dumb kike serving animals, you know

James Morgan
James Morgan

Here is a secondhand account of Hitler speaking about it

An Interview With General Otto Ernst Remer
Conducted by Stephanie Schoeman
Translated by Mark Weber

In September 1944, when I was commander of the guard unit at Hitler's headquarters, I spoke with Hitler during a walk together outside. I asked him: "My Fuhrer, may I speak frankly with you for a moment?" "Of course," he replied. I then asked him: "Why did you really attack Poland? Couldn't you have been more patient?"

Hitler had only asked for an extra-territorial highway and rail line across Polish territory, and he wanted the return of Danzig to the Reich. These were really very modest demands. With a bit more patience, couldn't he have obtained these, in much the same way that Austria and the Sudetenland had been united with the Reich?

And Hitler replied:

"You are mistaken. I knew as early as March 1939 that Roosevelt had determined to bring about a world war, and I knew that the British were cooperating in this, and that Churchill was involved. God knows that I certainly did not want a world war. That's why I sought to solve the Polish problem in my own way with a kind of punishment expedition, without a declaration of war. After all, there had been thousands of murders of ethnic Germans and 1.2 million ethnic German refugees. What should I have done? I had to act. And for that reason, four weeks after this campaign, I made the most generous offer of peace that any victorious leader could ever have made. Unfortunately, it wasn't successful.

And then he said: "If I had not acted as I did with regard to the Polish question, to prevent a second world war, by the end of 1942 at the latest we would have experienced what we are now experiencing in 1944." That's what he said.

Evan Gonzalez
Evan Gonzalez

I demand my own spoonfeeding thread instead of using an existing thread to learn about a topic
faggot nigger special snowflake

Elijah Richardson
Elijah Richardson

bump

Dylan Morgan
Dylan Morgan

bump

Cameron Myers
Cameron Myers

Chapter 7: German-Polish Friction In 1938
The Obstacles to a German-Polish Understanding — The Polish Passport Crisis —Persecution of the German
3
Minority in Poland — Polish Demonstrations Against Germany — The Outrages at Teschen — The Problem of
German Communication with East Prussia — Tension at Danzig — The November 1938 Ribbentrop-Lipski
Conference — German Confusion about Polish Intentions — Secret Official Polish Hostility toward Germany — A
German-Polish Understanding Feared by Halifax — Poland Endangered by Beck's Diplomacy

The Forced War by David Hoggan - of course it was censored, but it's all here

Colton Scott
Colton Scott

Why do the kikes hate Germans so much? Is it because of the funny hats?

Jeremiah Wright
Jeremiah Wright

look up Bromberg in conjunction with Bloody Sunday. { ihr.org and vho.org} have a lot of information about the German civilians murdered by the (((communists))) in the Danzig Corridor.

Carson Clark
Carson Clark

Why do the kikes hate Germans so much?
I didn't save the infograph and I don't remember all the details, maybe another user can provide more information.
But, they have some kind of prophecy about a group of goy that are the worst of them all and will eventually shut them down. For whatever neurotic reason the common consensus was, and still is, this group is the germans. So they invented the holocaust and try to shit on them even more than regular goy.

Jaxon Russell
Jaxon Russell

It would seem this post, with the best of intent to do research, has been derailed by so much bickering.
I have only this to offer to the OP:
cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/neoreaction/Guido Preparata/Conjuring Hitler - How Britain and America made the Third Reich.pdf
The conception of Euro-Asia to which we thus attain is that of a continuous
land, ice-girt in the north, water-girt elsewhere, measuring twenty-one
million square miles, or more than three times the area of North America,
whose centre and north, measuring some nine million square miles, or
more than twice the area of Europe, have no available water-ways to the
Preparata 01 chap01 8
Preparata 01 chap01 8
10/3/05 12:00:07 pm
10/3/05 12:00:07 pm
Introductory: The Eurasian Embrace 9
ocean, but on the other hand, except in the subarctic forest, are very
generally favorable to the mobility of horsemen and camelmen. To east,
south, and west of this
heart-land
are marginal regions, ranged in a vast
crescent
, accessible to shipmen. According to physical conformation,
these regions are four in number, and it is not a little remarkable that in
a general way they respectively coincide with the spheres of the four great
religions – Buddhism, Brahaminism, Mahometanism, and Christianity…
Britain, Canada, the United States, South Africa, Australia, and Japan,
are now a ring of outer and insular bases for sea-power and commerce,
inaccessible to the land-power of Europe…The spaces within the Russian
empire and Mongolia are so vast, and their potentialities in population,
wheat, cotton, fuel, and metals so incalculably great, that it is inevitable
that a vast economic world, more or less apart, will develop inaccessible
to oceanic commerce…In the world at large [Russia] occupies the central
strategical position held by Germany in Europe. She can strike on all sides,
save the north. The full development of her modern railway mobility
is merely a matter of time…The oversetting of the balance of power in
favor of the
pivot
state, resulting in its expansion over the marginal lands
of Euro-Asia, would permit of the use of vast continental resources for
fleet-building,
and the empire of the world would then be in sight. This might
happen if Germany were to ally herself with Russia
. The threat of such an
event should, therefore, throw France into alliance with the over-sea
powers, and France, Italy, Egypt, India and Korea would become so many
bridgeheads
where the outside navies would support armies to compel the
pivot allies to deploy land forces and prevent them from concentrating
their whole strength on fleets.

And let it now be within your thought that Hitler was installed (by the corrupted Anglicans) to push the Germans towards a reactionary movement that would cause its ultimate downfall.
Good luck, OP. Keep Digging.

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Grayson Morris
Grayson Morris

God damn you're an assblasted shill. Everyone can tell you're not from here. You should be fired.

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Isaiah Bennett
Isaiah Bennett

Poles genociding german civilians thread
is it one of these…
"You see! That's why Hitler […] Germany dindu nuffin!
"Poland should for all time be held responsible"
from the fucking source you kikes are using
"That these unheard-of cruel individual and mass-murders were carried on in such away is explained by the mentality of the Pole, and his habit to incline to cruelty and torture. The proverbial courage of the Pole corresponds with his equally proverbial cunning and deceit. Innumerable Polish murderers present themselves to our eyes as crafty and bloodthirsty creatures. Denunciation and treachery are expressions of the Polish national character, from which elements the brutal mentality and lust for murder emanate."
Truly an objective historian were dealing with here we should totally trust his estimates…

Oh yes it's another one of these threads i've seen all over different chans and alternative history fora.

It's always based on this one source that describe Poles like Schindler's list describes Germans.
The faggots that spread this use exactly the same strategy as kikes. They use one somewhat accountable source and then through bullshit reach the 58.000 number which is their version of 'muh 6 gorillion' and repeat it ad infinitum.

This is the root of their delusions: "the-1939-danzig-massacres-of-ethnic-germans-which-caused-hitler-to-invade-poland"
Their cognitive bias drives them to believe anything to justify their invasion in 1939, when there is no real one other than might makes right.

I mean, why is there no contemporary Swedish/Danish/Czech/Etc sources on this. These guys were more/evenly pro-German than pro-Polish. I mean 58.000 died, extraordinary happenings should have extraordinary many sources, right? It isn't like the Katyn massacre and the Soviet Union where information is controlled.

Did the Czechs kill 58.000 or so Germans as well since Czechoslovakia was conquered before Poland? I mean Hitler did nothing wrong those evil Slovaks must have atleast slaughtered 10.000 German children to justify the invasion.

Just for clarification: I'm not denying that Poles treated the German minority like shit and that jew/commie media + the polish government exacerbated that in the months before the leading to who knows how many deaths before the september invasion.
But I know your intentions, if you think this justifies Germany's joint invasion with the SU of Poland completely pillaging it and destroying the elite effectively turning it into a slave nation is ok then you're beyond hope, and killing yourself would be the biggest contribution to the white race you would ever make.

I'm all in for a reasonable discussion. But the muh 58.000 and the source it comes from is a good indication of hot shit you should avoid.

Alexander Thomas
Alexander Thomas

In the ashtray

Blake Long
Blake Long

all those kike ITT pilpul'ing the discussion towards pole/german D&C
Take three steps back, anons.
Poland could have been a most valuable ally for Germany against communism, but since pilsudski's death Poland was on its way to westernize its geopolitical direction and was about to be invaded by USSR anyway. So Germany just jumped the obstacle between her and the most important ennemy.
b-b-but the massacres were fake/real !
Had Soviet Russia invaded Europe without Germany's resistance and hard struggle, the massacre would have been ten times worse. Gulags for French, Italians, Spanish, everyone goyim ! So is that Danzig shit of any importance ? Hell no. Germany had to attack Russia, to preserve European people. Poland was a small rock in her shoe.

Jack Wilson
Jack Wilson

danzigfreestate.org/unknownhistory.htm

This link has a lot of excellent info about why the war started. Again: geopolitical reasons to not let Germany become too powerful.

About the Danzig massacres, by this I seem to understand that they occurred after the first punch.

It is not difficult to imagine how this perversion of civilized human conduct eventually must lead to a Fascist mentality that was also present in the Polish media. They did not mince words when it came to arousing public fanaticism without restrictions when it was time to go to war against Germany. They were the ultimate instrument for instilling in the public the view that Poland was the peerless power that would chasten Germany by defeating her in a few days. Characteristic of this was, for example, an oil painting that showed Marshal Rydz-Smigly, the Polish commander-in-chief, riding on horseback through the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin.14 This painting was found by German troops in the Presidential Palace in Warsaw and was not even completely dry. When war finally came, the Germans in Polish territory suffered terribly. They had to bear the unspeakable hate of the Poles. Some 35,000 of them(German authorities then claimed 58,000 murdered Germans!) were murdered, often under the most bestial circumstances. Dr. Kurt Lück (op.cit.) writes on page 271: "Poles had thrown dead dogs into many of the graves of murdered ethnic Germans. Near Neustadt in West Prussia, the Poles slashed open the belly of a captured German officer, tore out his intestines and stuffed a dead dog inside. This report is reliably documented."15 And a German mother grieves for her sons. She writes on October 12th, 1939: "Oh, but that our dear boys [her sons] had to die such terrible deaths. 12 people were lying in the ditch, and all of them had been cruelly beaten to death. Eyes gouged out, skulls smashed, heads split open, teeth knocked out… little Karl had a hole in his head, probably from a stabbing implement. Little Paul had the flesh torn off his arms, and all this while they were still alive. Now they rest in a mass grave of more than 40, free at last of their terror and pain. They have peace now, but I never shall…"16 And between 1919 and 1921 400,000 ethnic Germans fled their homes and crossed the German border in order to save their lives.

Camden Nguyen
Camden Nguyen

About the Danzig massacres, by this I seem to understand that they occurred after the first punch.
More than 1 million German left the territories anexed by Poland before the war. Do you think that was because Poles are such nice people and humanitarians?

Jack Roberts
Jack Roberts

But I've read that German people were accusing Poles of ethnic cleansing as far back as March/April around the time that Poland allied with Britain and Hitler withdrew from the non-aggression pact.
Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof published a book some years back called "Der Krieg, der viele Väter hatte" (the war with many fathers), in which he cited a League of Nations report, based on international observers, confirming that Germany had between 60 and 80 thousands Volksdeutsch refugees from Danzig months prior to the war. So I recommend you start with his sources:

archive.org/details/SchultzeRhonhofManyFathersWPermanentSubtitles
archive.org/details/HitlersWar-WhatTheHistoriansNeglectToMentiontestVersion

As for the Germans killed immediately prior to the German invasion, Germany released a number of autopsies and conducted fact finding trials where testimonies were collected and cross examined on the ethnic cleansings by Poles. For years prior, Polish media, including Polish priests in parish churches, were calling for the violent extermination of ethnic Germans on Polish clay. There were written orders to execute prisoners, and much physical evidence of this sort – unlike the oral testimonies and vague or non-existent documentation for claims of German atrocities. Many dismissed this as Reich propaganda, but at the time, neutral international observers found the evidence credible. Remember that they also dismissed German charges of Soviet massacres at Katyn, then blamed the deaths on the Germans until the Soviet Union collapsed in the 1990s, and their archives were leaked that they did in fact execute Polish officers on orders from Stalin.

Germans were officially ethnically cleansed from Danzig by the Soviets following the war. Danzig was only 3% Polish before the war, then became 100% Polish after 1947. Germans were also cleansed from the Sudetenland, mostly by execution. Lot of home movies of Germans being run over by Czech military trucks as their form of mass execution:

youtu.be/WVOk4TiugbE

<Other sources:

What the world rejected: Hitler's offers of peace
wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.html
Viktor Suvarov - Who started the 2nd World War?
youtu.be/SbBnRZoTHFs
Hitler's War - the Allies caused the war
youtu.be/MejbBsSAP8I
Stalin's plans to invade Europe, proving Hitler's invasion of Russia was preemptive:
wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html
See also: "The Chief Culprit" by Victor Suvarov in the ebooks archive:
mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg!o0Uk3KTJ
Hellstorm - Post-war Genocide of Germans
youtu.be/qkQ6J5F01Do
youtu.be/LwAYgjG6SkM

Polish massacres of ethnic Germans (Note - most bodies discovered as Germans invaded were in an advanced state of decay, thus, the common excuse "they were killed BECAUSE Germany invaded" can't explain why they were dead for so long; many killings involved elaborate desecration, dismemberment, and mocking disfigurements of the bodies - things not done in haste)
wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/deathinpoland/dp00.html
danzigfreestate.org/unknownhistory.htm
archive.is/MitYS
archive.is/JauWN

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Joshua Walker
Joshua Walker

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Hunter Barnes
Hunter Barnes

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Cooper Gonzalez
Cooper Gonzalez

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Logan Rodriguez
Logan Rodriguez

Germany would have needed to rally support for a Polish incursion. You can be rest assured that the "fake news media" (((western press))) of the time would bear little to no mention of the Danzig massacres but it would be most likely that communiques containing evidence would have been sent to Spain and Italy.

If you're serious about evidence then I would begin looking in those places as well as considering that this evidence may have been sequestered and forgotten about in some part of the archives that are preserved by the western allies.

Camden Diaz
Camden Diaz

ID hopping?

This faggot is getting filtered for continously arguing in bad faith and refusing to answer a simple question.

Josiah Cruz
Josiah Cruz

But I've read that German people were accusing Poles of ethnic cleansing as far back as March/April around the time that Poland allied with Britain and Hitler withdrew from the non-aggression pact.

what is propaganda?
what is casus beli?

Kayden Walker
Kayden Walker

What is Occam's Razor
Hitler invades Poland for land he doesn't need which he wants to take from people who hate his enemy (jews) just as much as he does.
Also propaganda =/= lies. It can be honest or dishonest.

Dylan Brooks
Dylan Brooks

2018 AD
Post-Snowden era
VPns, proxies and other tools of safety and anonymity are pretty much mainstream, often part of any decent Internet Browser
People switch places, travel from home to workplaces, schools, use public WiFis
user perplexed by IP change

I don't know whether laugh at your primitivism or pity you.

Also:

attacking a comment one month old

Did you enjoy your ban, negro? Next time, work harder on those cotton fields where you belong.

Luis Jenkins
Luis Jenkins

Nice of you to identify yourself so easily for me so I can filter you again.

Owen Sanders
Owen Sanders

You left out that Germany was thought to be weak and unable to defend itself because of the Treaty of Versailles limits on their military.
Poland was backed by UK and France, they thought they couldn't lose.
Germany got their hands on the Polish plan to seize lands of Germany to the west of Berlin.

Angel Williams
Angel Williams

Don't know about Poland, but Stalin gave such an order after Barbarossa.

Joseph Adams
Joseph Adams

It is important because they had very legitimate reasons, not having to do with Russia.

Henry Mitchell
Henry Mitchell

you mean before germany intervened in a bolshevik led assualt on ethnic germans living in poland ,the funny part is after the war what the bolshevik led russians did to poland ppl ..butchered the wrong pig ehh?

oh yea that.

Gabriel Howard
Gabriel Howard

That's an irrational rebuttal, user.

Julian Ward
Julian Ward

We were never your enemy only the rat jews in your gov and others at the time getting us to fight amongst ourselves instead of eradicate them.

THE jew IS THE ENEMY

HOW MANY WHITES HAVE TO DIE FOR YOU TO SEE IT

Eli Perry
Eli Perry

ethnic poles
Funny way of saying jews.

Poland = Pale of Settlement

Henry Turner
Henry Turner

But Андрей, my lad, you wouldn't stomach the idea of not seeing further responses. That's the deal with you, snowflakish lot. Good, bad, correct, wrong, it's all about you and the confirmation of your existence.

Samuel Hill
Samuel Hill

What is Occam's Razor
An suggestion that there's no need to multiply entities needlessly. Its simplified form states that if two explanations to a problem/question are presented, then the simpler one is preferred.
None of above is the absolute, ultimate and infallible answer to all questions, problems and scenarios. For example, there are many cases, where indeed the more complicated, less probable solution is the correct one.

tl;dr:
What is Einstein's Razor?

Also:
Also propaganda =/= lies. It can be honest or dishonest.
Shifting from specific scenario to a general idea in an attempt to prove a theory concerning the former counts as manipulation.

Blake Hall
Blake Hall

the most known of it was the 4200 shot and killed in a woods i can't remember from the top of my head
You're thinking of the Katyn Massacre.
still not a single document proving this
implying documentation makes something true

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Hunter Gutierrez
Hunter Gutierrez

implying that lack of documentation makes something true
FIFY

Carter Morris
Carter Morris

Just search for "Germany is Amalek" for more detail. Look into the Vilna Gaon in relation to this phrase. Look more deeply in the concept of Amalek itself, as there are two aspects of Amalek, spiritual and physical Amalek. The Germanic peoples are considered to be physical as well as spiritual Amalek. Europeans more generally are considered near to Amalek as all Europeans are considered the descendants of Edom, for which Jews are commanded to "never remove the bit from the mouth of Edom, or he shall destroy you." i.e. always keep a pain inflicting control over all Europeans or they will destroy the Jew. Amalek is a grandson of Edom, and considered to be the physical manifestation of the Devil on Earth, and the only true enemy of the Jewish people.

Liam Brooks
Liam Brooks

Germany would have needed to rally support for a Polish incursion.

Oh please, Germany was even excluded from the International Red Cross after WWI.

Nobody was going to help Germany but the Germans. Germany‘s enemies just understand the language of force.
If a peaceful solution would have been wanted by Germany‘s enemies they could have it at Versailles – they chose continued aggression.

Hitler invades Poland for land he doesn't need
Hitler reunited the occupied territories and liberated his people.

It is so undeniable that Poland occupied German territory. All this Wilsonian “right of self determination of people” doesn’t change that, in fact no referendums were held or if so were so overwhelming in favor of Germany (75 percent pro German Silesia), they had to be ignored or gerrymandered.
Same with Danzig, which population was forbidden under penalty of deportation to opt for Germany.

Poland was propped up, equipped by France to wage war against Germany since the “cease fire” of WWI right until WWII.

Germany didn’t preempted an Polish aggression, it answered to an aggression.

Logan Cruz
Logan Cruz

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Its amazing to watch how they come in waves, like nobody is going to notice.

Jose Green
Jose Green

It is so undeniable that Poland occupied German territory.
Germany didn’t preempted an Polish aggression, it answered to an aggression.

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Mason Johnson
Mason Johnson

TOTALLY NO SHILLING YOU GUIZ

Funny how there was no response to this very well presented argument.

Grayson Sanchez
Grayson Sanchez

So, which is it, Polish or Jewish? Or maybe both?

Michael Lee
Michael Lee

the funny part is after the war what the bolshevik led russians did to poland ppl

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John Cox
John Cox

pre-war Polish massacre of ethnic Germans
Pre-war Communist Bolsheviks massacre of Christians. No wonder you cant find information on it. Your searching the wrong topics.
Fixed that for you

Liam Wilson
Liam Wilson

Coming from a country this thread concerns is problematic
user, drink a coffee before formulating your arguments. Seriously. Drink a coffee.

Eli Evans
Eli Evans

the savage poles were massacring innocent german children for no reason, eating their hearts, and drinking their blood, as is customary in their primitive, subhuman culture. poland started (((ww2))) and they deserved everything they got (except all the german land, of course)

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Jack Jackson
Jack Jackson

Youre all wrong. After WW1 german land was stolen and called Prussia. in the late 30"s Jews started stealing land and cattle from ethnic Germans, some fights broke out and the (((Prussians))) slaughtered 65000 ethnic germans on their own land. Farmers started fighting and the NAZI had to invade.
Poland wasnt hit until months later, and warsaw fell in 30 days to the Blitzkrieg.
Jews started WW2. They were never the victims. Jews steal land just like the Gaza, Golan, and Prussia.
Communism and Jews run hand in hand. More Gypsies and Hungarians died in WW2 then Jews, NAZI started Israel and helped Jews move there before WW2 and the real holocaust was allies starving 1.7 million Germans after the war in the Rhine Valley camps, then sending another 1.2 million to be shot by soviets in Katyn and Bliesberg

Connor Brooks
Connor Brooks

Every Pole and Jew will also try to confuse the Danzig Massacre with Black Sunday. In Reality Poles retaliated and killed even more Germans in Black Sunday.
The fuckers got the Blitzkrieg and deserved every dead body they buried too.

Carson Garcia
Carson Garcia

GERMANY WAS INVADED FIRST. POLAND WAS NOT INVADED, GERMANY WAS PROVOKED.

Elijah Butler
Elijah Butler

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Christian Reyes
Christian Reyes

No u!
Oh my, what a precise and profound argument.

Charles Jenkins
Charles Jenkins

Pilsudski was too neutral and too smart to seriously contemplate military action. After all, he signed a pact with Hitler and that is not an everyday occurrence between those countries. The hypothesis he was using Frances refusal as justification for ignoring his pact with them makes more sense.

Ian Wood
Ian Wood

Jews are responsible for nearly all of the death, suffering and destruction of the 20th century (and beyond). The net result of WW1 and WW2 was the decimation of two generations of White people, and the continued expansion of Jewish hegemony. The second half of the century brought even more death and suffering at the hands of Jewish hegemony. The real (as in not fake) holocausts of the 20th century were perpetrated by Jews. Danzig is just a tiny Jewish crime in comparison.

There is a massive Jewish shill shitting up this thread. You can easily spot him because he always puts a space after his quote tags. It doesn't even matter, save your energy. All you need to know is that Jews did everything, they even wrote it down beforehand (pic related), and the hour is very late. All the arguing in this thread doesn't even matter.

/thread

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Blake Allen
Blake Allen

Oh please, Germany was even excluded from the International Red Cross after WWI.

But there was political support from other fascist nations to be sought in an age where fascism was on the rise.

Hitler reunited the occupied territories and liberated his people.
I was referring to the premise of "lebensraum" which is often incorrectly offered as a casus belli for the conquest of Poland. The whole principle of resettlement is, as you correctly point out, separate from the repatriation of German territories to Germany. So far as I'm concerned the denial of a vote in this territory was conclusively German was reason enough for war, the atrocities are the "icing on the cake".

Cameron Murphy
Cameron Murphy

But there was political support from other fascist nations to be sought in an age where fascism was on the rise.
Huh? Spain? Laughable. Central European states, nobodies with delusions of grandeur, each of them thinking to establish, enlarge and enrich themselves at the cost of the Germans? Italy? Sketchy.

Remember, Italy occupied, still occupies large tracts of German territory.
So which interest should Italy have in the restoration of Germany’s territorial integrity?

Hitler reunited the occupied territories and liberated his people.
I was referring to the premise of "lebensraum"
The war with Poland was over precise and named disputes of German territory. Hitler was, like in the case of Italy willing to compromises to a, from a German perspective unacceptable degree.

Poland thought and wished, still wishes to enlarge its territory at the cost of Germany. Poland was expecting to continue their aggression with the support of France as they have done since 1918 (even going back to the Napoleonic aggression).

So far as I'm concerned the denial of a vote in this territory was conclusively German was reason enough for war, the atrocities are the "icing on the cake".
It was not only the territory Poland had already annexed, but also those the Poles were going to annex, like Danzig. Danzig was held in a League of Nations limbo, denied a vote, its German identity and return to Germany. Reason can only have been to prep it for Polish annexation, that was delayed because of its big 95 percent German population would have been a to big fish to swallow for Poland then.

Zachary Hill
Zachary Hill

All those silly arguments aside: look what Germany does to its land and people now. It's flooding its territory with criminals from Africa and Asia, buttraping its own laws and destroying order in progress. It's obvious that Germans can't be trusted to govern over its own future, unless you agree for new generations to bear "obviously" Teutonic names like Muhammad and Abdul.
Now think, wouldn't it be better for Polan to reign there? At least we don't fuck children and call it "cultural differences", or enforce the ideology that makes women wear tents, among many other stupid things…

Food for thought.

Michael Wilson
Michael Wilson

It's obvious that Germans can't be trusted to govern over its own future
See goyim ? This is why Germany needs to be kept under (((foreign))) occupation until its blood disappears permanently :^)
DAILY REMINDER TO HIDE D&C THREADS

Anthony Price
Anthony Price

I wish Prussiaboos were at least consistent in following von Clausevitz and not applying moral relativism
I take territory from a weaker country = good, justified, shouldn't have become weak and invited an invasion (^:
Lose a war and the territory is liberated instead of occupied by the guy who defeated you?
<FUCKING PERFIDIOUS ALBION WHY DO THEY PERSECUTE US SO

If partitioned territory of PLC was muh Prussian/Russian/Austro-Hungarian clay, then by the same token weak germany is rightful turkish and nigger clay.
You have to pick either.

Joseph Davis
Joseph Davis

Pic related.
Now about my question…

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Ryder Young
Ryder Young

All those silly arguments aside: look what Germany does to its land and people now. It's flooding its territory with criminals from Africa and Asia, buttraping its own laws and destroying order in progress. It's obvious that Germans can't be trusted to govern over its own future,
Considering this coming from people not able to pay for their own expenses, like Poland receiving billions anally, sending its people, millions, to exactly those countries they consider maladministrated, because Poland can not provide their existence…

You better shut up Polak
Now clean my toilet!

Jack James
Jack James

Yes, yes, LARPer bro.
Now about my question…

Nathaniel Thomas
Nathaniel Thomas

red pill central and holodomor

ppl will come to know the truth the amount of anger shouldn't be a trickle instead a flood of all whites destroying jews and putting shitskins in their place for phased extinction make way for the best race WHITES>SPACE>ETERNAL LIFE.

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Ryder Rogers
Ryder Rogers

Genocide
Background
The word “genocide” was first coined by Polish lawyer Raphäel Lemkin in 1944 in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe. It consists of the Greek prefix genos, meaning race or tribe, and the Latin suffix cide, meaning killing. Lemkin developed the term partly in response to the Nazi policies of systematic murder of Jewish people during the Holocaust, but also in response to previous instances in history of targeted actions aimed at the destruction of particular groups of people. Later on, Raphäel Lemkin led the campaign to have genocide recognised and codified as an international crime.

Genocide was first recognised as a crime under international law in 1946 by the United Nations General Assembly (A/RES/96-I). It was codified as an independent crime in the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (the Genocide Convention). The Convention has been ratified by 149 States (as of January 2018). The International Court of Justice (ICJ) has repeatedly stated that the Convention embodies principles that are part of general customary international law. This means that whether or not States have ratified the Genocide Convention, they are all bound as a matter of law by the principle that genocide is a crime prohibited under international law. The ICJ has also stated that the prohibition of genocide is a peremptory norm of international law (or ius cogens) and consequently, no derogation from it is allowed.

The definition of the crime of genocide as contained in Article II of the Genocide Convention was the result of a negotiating process and reflects the compromise reached among United Nations Member States in 1948 at the time of drafting the Convention. Genocide is defined in the same terms as in the Genocide Convention in the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (Article 6), as well as in the statutes of other international and hybrid jurisdictions. Many States have also criminalized genocide in their domestic law; others have yet to do so.

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Luis Martin
Luis Martin

Genocide

Definition
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.pdf

Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

a) Killing members of the group;
b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Elements of the crime

The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation. The latter is less common but still possible. The same article establishes the obligation of the contracting parties to prevent and to punish the crime of genocide.

The popular understanding of what constitutes genocide tends to be broader than the content of the norm under international law. Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements:

1. A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and

A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:

a) Killing members of the group
b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

The intent is the most difficult element to determine. To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group. It is this special intent, or dolus specialis, that makes the crime of genocide so unique. In addition, case law has associated intent with the existence of a State or organizational plan or policy, even if the definition of genocide in international law does not include that element.

Importantly, the victims of genocide are deliberately targeted - not randomly – because of their real or perceived membership of one of the four groups protected under the Convention (which excludes political groups, for example). This means that the target of destruction must be the group, as such, and not its members as individuals. Genocide can also be committed against only a part of the group, as long as that part is identifiable (including within a geographically limited area) and “substantial.”

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Josiah Reyes
Josiah Reyes

KILL YOURSELF, (((you))) are not even polish, you are trying to make us fight the wrong enemy

Owen Wilson
Owen Wilson

p*les are shit anyway

this thread is from fucking June SAGE

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David Turner
David Turner

Of course, but let's not pretend that they were not incited by the kikes to do so.

Isaac Nelson
Isaac Nelson

So, Poles and Germans shouldn't feud. They should be angry at the actual villains: the kikes.
Completely agree, well said.

Tyler Parker
Tyler Parker

Look at the marks on the back of the neck and head on the fourth photograph. This looks more like the work of kikes than Poles. Considering that there were a lot of kikes in Poland at that time, this seems to make sense.

Blake Garcia
Blake Garcia

I'm particularly certain, that just like the atrocities committed between Ukrainians and Poles in the South East, this was entirely a jewish led and jewish acted event. The jews were complicit in genocides because it made them glee to kill whites, and for whites to fight each other instead of them.

Dominic Brown
Dominic Brown

KIKEPEDIA!

It sums up things quite well and I know no other better, globally accepted source of information in English
Are you even serious?

Christopher Garcia
Christopher Garcia

GERMANY DIDN'T INVADE POLAND. GERMANY PROTECTED ITSELF FROM ATTACKS SET ABOUT BY KIKES.

GERMANY DID NOT INVADE ANY COUNTRY FIRST.
GERMANY DID NOT INVADE ANY COUNTRY FIRST.
GERMANY DID NOT INVADE ANY COUNTRY FIRST.
GERMANY DID NOT INVADE ANY COUNTRY FIRST.
GERMANY DID NOT INVADE ANY COUNTRY FIRST.
GERMANY DID NOT INVADE ANY COUNTRY FIRST.
GERMANY DID NOT INVADE ANY COUNTRY FIRST.
GERMANY DID NOT INVADE ANY COUNTRY FIRST.
GERMANY DID NOT INVADE ANY COUNTRY FIRST.
GERMANY DID NOT INVADE ANY COUNTRY FIRST.
GERMANY DID NOT INVADE ANY COUNTRY FIRST.

Fuck anons. Get that into your fucking heads before you set the grounds for a discussion/argument/whatever. GERMANY WAS NOT the hostile entity in any of this.

Jason Phillips
Jason Phillips

Imagine getting so assblasted you are getting btfo by everybody on Zig Forums

Levi Young
Levi Young

while Germany never lifted a finger to help.
Kikes were morally destroying them with the Weimar Republic, and their armed forces at the time, the Reichswehr was majorly cucked by the Treaty of Versailles.

Benjamin Fisher
Benjamin Fisher

Here's Pat Buchanan giving a short overview:

German Army crossed the Polish frontier. On Sept. 3, Britain declared war. Six years later, 50 million Christians and Jews had perished. Britain was broken and bankrupt, Germany a smoldering ruin. Europe had served as the site of the most murderous combat known to man, and civilians had suffered worse horrors than the soldiers. By May 1945, Red Army hordes occupied all the great capitals of Central Europe: Vienna, Prague, Budapest, Berlin. A hundred million Christians were under the heel of the most barbarous tyranny in history: the Bolshevik regime of the greatest terrorist of them all, Joseph Stalin.
What cause could justify such sacrifices? The German-Polish war had come out of a quarrel over a town the size of Ocean City, Md., in summer. Danzig, 95 percent German, had been severed from Germany at Versailles in violation of Woodrow Wilson’s principle of self-determination. Even British leaders thought Danzig should be returned.
Why did Warsaw not negotiate with Berlin, which was hinting at an offer of compensatory territory in Slovakia? Because the Poles had a war guarantee from Britain that, should Germany attack, Britain and her empire would come to Poland’s rescue. But why would Britain hand an unsolicited war guarantee to a junta of Polish colonels, giving them the power to drag Britain into a second war with the most powerful nation in Europe?
Was Danzig worth a war? Unlike the 7 million Hong Kongese whom the British surrendered to Beijing, who didn’t want to go, the Danzigers were clamoring to return to Germany. Comes the response: The war guarantee was not about Danzig, or even about Poland. It was about the moral and strategic imperative “to stop Hitler” after he showed, by tearing up the Munich pact and Czechoslovakia with it, that he was out to conquer the world. And this Nazi beast could not be allowed to do that. If true, a fair point. Americans, after all, were prepared to use atom bombs to keep the Red Army from the Channel. But where is the evidence that Adolf Hitler, whose victims as of March 1939 were a fraction of Gen. Pinochet’s, or Fidel Castro’s, was out to conquer the world?

buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068

Zachary Turner
Zachary Turner

Even now if Germany militarizes again, they would surely have the best land force in Europe.
NATO wants Germany to increase personnel and spending to the Bundeswehr, but of course they want this for all their members. France still has the largest armed forces in the EU, though.

Ryan Ross
Ryan Ross

This. Only a united front will defeat the kikes.

Ryder Anderson
Ryder Anderson

Hell, some of the evidence for this might still be in the Bundesarchiv of Germany. David Irving has gone to the Bundesarchiv many times and uncovered things that the victors of the Second World War would rather have not seen the light of day. Folks like Léon Degrelle went into exile in Spain and were left unmolested by the authorities even after the death of Franco and Spain going democratic, so that's probably also a good idea that evidence might be found in Spanish archives.

Liam Gutierrez
Liam Gutierrez

Like Polands post war one?
Should I remind you (((who))) was ruling Poland post war?

Mason Nguyen
Mason Nguyen

The criminals are not investigating against themselves. Victors write their own history.
But the only true victors of the WW2 were the kikes. Poland was among the losers, just like Germany. What force would be stopping research to unmask alleged crimes of a loser with no say in the matter? Especially today, when Poland is a target of a mass smear campaign by international kikery, and such accusations would play right into their narrative.

Juan Powell
Juan Powell

Thank you Hitler.
As we can see Germany did not invade first. German territory was split off and given away. I'm pretty sure any sane person would agree that merits military defense.

Jacob Howard
Jacob Howard

u suk cox