White Identity

Daniel Allen
Daniel Allen

The public perception of NSDAP and their iconography is extremely negative.

It is illegal to display this iconography in almost every part of the world. It is DOUBLY illegal if you're white (meaning penalties more severly imposed / no clemency).

Being pro-white is not yet explicitly illegal (only psuedo illegal in many places via (((hate speech))) provisions)

Also consider what the average normal person understands about Nazi stuffs:
* Hitler has replaced Satan as "the ultimate evil"
* Nazi is bad, I mean really really bad
* Calling people a Nazi is effectively what calling them a Heretic / Witch / blasphemer was in the past

So spending any effort to rehabilitate the image of Nazism or Nazi iconography seems to me to not be a pragmatic approach.

This is because you're effor will be to merely pull the reputation of NSDAP and their iconography out of a very deep hole.

While you spend effort being an edgelord or advocating people to repair the image of NSDAP and their symbols (((they))) are busy demonizing white identity
in general and making that illegal.

IMO this is the goal, and also IOTBW was a prime example of where effort should be spent. The main thrust off all public propaganda directed at normies and kekistan
etc should feed the core message: "It's ok to be white". That forces (((them))) to EXPLICITLY say that no it's not ok to be white.

All of us understand that this is their essential ethos of jews and leftists anyway but normal people don't know that and the best way to do that is to make
(((them))) explicitly come out and say it.

Jews will tell you to wear a swastika and grow an hitler mustache and march down to city hall demanding policy change but if you are not retarded you can see how this is
ultimately futile. No normal person will listen to anything you have to say, also everything you do and say can now be trivially filed away under (((hate speech))) and
it helps them to further criminalize white identity.

Understand that when the Nazis were defeated, their imagery was also defeated. (((they))) have had 70 plus years to poison the well.

If you spend effor to rehabilitate or salvage this imagery then you fail and waste your effort (this is (((their))) desired outcome)

If you listen to anyone who tells you to display this imagery in public they are setting you up for arrest/punishment. (again they win)
and you help to make their case for them that white identity itself should be criminalized.

What does Zig Forums think?

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Jeremiah Taylor
Jeremiah Taylor

Homosexuality seems to be a kind of last stand of implicit White identity.

Joseph Lee
Joseph Lee

How is this similar to?
MUH SHOAH!

Grayson King
Grayson King

What does Zig Forums think?
I think you're an idiot. Since Nazism is today conflated with any sort of right wing position whatsoever, rehabilitation of the image is absolutely necessary. You will not win if you allow your enemy to frame the narrative.

Logan Gray
Logan Gray

Oh really? Then tell me how to rehab the image of Nazism? Even one suggestion that's not fucking retarded would be appreciated.

William Kelly
William Kelly

There is no use in trying to avoid the NSDAP label.

The NSDAP by another name will still clearly be the NSDAP in policy, and disguising will not work.

Embrace that Hitler did literally nothing wrong and or the jews in every other nations' governments had not ganged up on the Reich, we would be living in abetter world today.

Sebastian Nguyen
Sebastian Nguyen

What Zig Forums has been doing already for years.

Joshua Miller
Joshua Miller

Give it a good image by

work
exercise
have a family
learn to communicate adequetly

And be respected. Offer salvation from invaders, debt, degeneracy and they will come.

Chase Reyes
Chase Reyes

easy, show how diverse the ss was and how holocaust didn't happen

Hudson Lewis
Hudson Lewis

Good post incoming from me but it'll take a while, stay tuned folks

Aaron Baker
Aaron Baker

Abstract faggotry with no practical explanation of how any of that could be achieved.

HURRR give it a good image

HOW fuckwit? how do you go out in public not get arrested and also give it a good image?

Joseph Bailey
Joseph Bailey

Gay, we don't want diversity, at most we want white immigrants but nobody else. If you show how diverse the SS was thats no different from civic nationalism and their "based black guys".

Also good luck talking about how great nazis were in public.

Jaxson Campbell
Jaxson Campbell

Yeah there is. What is our goal? To secure the existence of white people and a future for white children, not to rehabilitate the image of Nazism.

IMO you have an opportunity cost: rehabilitating the image of nazism is fail and spending effort on it means that you can't also do 14 words. ALso you play right into their hands out yourself and go directly to jail and do not collect 200 dollars.

Jaxson Evans
Jaxson Evans

The whole point of going form that is the gradual red pill and all you fucking optics cuckers are always talking about not showing your hand all at once and gradually redpilling the masses, so that should fit in perfectly with your methods should it not?

Wyatt Thomas
Wyatt Thomas

I don't think Zig Forums has had much success at publicly rehabilitating the image of nazism / NSDAP, none at all.

They have only succeeded in redpilling people who already kind of realized that something was wrong.

Bentley Hall
Bentley Hall

The thing is, the left has pulled off a great trick in essentially tieing the stone that is national socialism to white nationalism in order to make it a sort of self referential sin so you kinda HAVE to drag it along with you, besides we're not the kind of group that has the organization and cohesion to just ignore that a great many of us are national socialists

Nathan Diaz
Nathan Diaz

You've had 70 plus years faggot. When is your moment in the sun? We're overrun with niggers and spics and mystery meat invaders.

When is your fucking master plan going to kick in? Seems like never to me.

Meanwhile we are <60% white USA, and collapsing white birthrates around the globe.

Even if every white person mentally became adolf we still have the problem of demographics. Shitskins can vote BTW did you know that?

Ethan Watson
Ethan Watson

We had the same problems as white nationalism in general, we had 0 media control and the jews had total media control to the point that they were able to subvert the biological drive to protect your people

Colton Lewis
Colton Lewis

Just start a civil war already! What can soyboys, females and shitskins do against real men?
Fucking anglomutts larping as nazicucks I swear, trying to get the cattle to follow you instead of the jews fucking shit mate i hate anglos so god damn much

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Logan Fisher
Logan Fisher

voting
wew

Robert Howard
Robert Howard

This is where I disagree. NSDAP symbology is a boat anchor and a honeypot.

It is (((their))) most defended / strongest point. They have already captured and secured that area in the hearts and minds of the populace and that is where you want to attack? Retarded IMO.

Attack them where they are weak and haven't already won. Just push IOTBW and the fact that white identity and white culture are ok.

Luis Long
Luis Long

They have only succeeded in redpilling people who already kind of realized that something was wrong
Those are the only people who matter.

Jacob Butler
Jacob Butler

FIrst pic, has no nazi imagery, none zero.

There are only 10 guys, I don't see anybody else around, they aren't in the town square or anything like that.

Second pic looks like some faggots basement, he's also alone. So who's gonna start this war cool guy? To do so would end things for us. You attack when you're strong and can win, not when you are a marginalized group.

Julian Lewis
Julian Lewis

That gets me to our next point, we have to drag the stone but we don't have to attack at their strongest point, the live rallies, the all that, that is their strongest point, if we just don't do mass rallies we don't have the confusion and the self controlled whatever people happen to be plopped in with us and blah blah.
What we have to do is we have to do all the debating one on one with peers and such to drag those we can slightly to the right of where they are: See the transcendence memes of:
Holocaust should have happened>Holocaust happened and thats good>Hitler wasn't racist holocaust didn't happen>Hitler was racist for the holocaust
But besides just that we have to increase our intermingling in the institutions of society and subvert the jewish masters of them just as the jews did to their capitalist aryan masters before

Nicholas Reed
Nicholas Reed

I think the left are doing our work for us.
Ten years ago:
I feel as though white people are unnecessarily, unfairly burdened by affirmative action and black-specific programs.
NAZI!!!
<OMG GUYS FUCK THAT GUY HE'S A NAZI!
Five years ago:
I feel as though President Obama might be abusing his position to free blacks from prison–
NAZI!!!
<Well, maybe… but I mean, he IS letting out a lot of black people. But maybe you're right and he is a nazi.
Today:
I feel as though mass immigration is specifically designed to flood white, European nations with low-IQ browns who will vote for liberal policies that give them free things.
NAZI!!!
<Meh. I think the guy has a point. Look at the crime stats…
Give it time, user. By the end of President Trump's eight years:
I Feel as though we need to remove from office those who hold loyalties to other countries–such as Isael.
O-oy vey goyim, you're starting to sound like a nazi!
<That's funny, isn't your name (((-stein))) and aren't you a duel-citizen? I think we might have a conflict of interest here…

fags
white identity
I think (((you))) mean jewish identity, faggot.

Just start a civil war already
No.
Absolutely fucking not.
And do you want to know why?
Gather your forces and build up resources before engaging in battle.
This one thing will be more likely to see us to victory than anything else, but it's not just the bloody door-to-door war we have to win.
Hearts and minds, user. If we attack first:
OY VEY IT'S ANUDDAH SHOAH! EVERYONE HELP!!
It gives the kikes, niggers, etc the moral high ground and the supposed right to call for help from the military or foreign powers.
If we wait, prepare, and only strike back when it's plainly clear we're fighting a defensive war, then WE are the ones in the position of moral superiority as far as those looking on from outside are concerned. WE can call for aid to remove the niggers, spics, and kikes.
white South Africans
Fuck. I know. No one appears to be lifting a finger to help them and this may be a prelude to what will happen if we DO allow the kikes to push their nigger and muslim pets into starting hostilities first.

Blake Miller
Blake Miller

We can debunk the Holocaust without trying to resurrect Nazism, or trrying to salvage nazi iconography, or rehabilitate hitlers image.

I agree mass rallies seem to have failed and worked against us. Public debates are good and going well and seem to be a good approach but only when done as a neutral persona not as a Nazi.

Joseph Evans
Joseph Evans

One more thing, people sort of imagine that the left has a magic science man that can put whoever in their place, but I've found me and other people believing that WE now have the magic science man who could destroy in debates if they were there when in some cases its kind of unreasonable to expect that data backed arguments can be made for either side, and there are people actually working on that.
See the alternative hypothesis' website and the library of hate

Xavier Evans
Xavier Evans

not knowing your own symbols
Being this much of a soyboy
<hurr we need the numbers! we'z need more grotz!
reddit formatting

<i'm afraid of war and conflict
replying to the wrong post

Absolutely anglo.

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Nathan Taylor
Nathan Taylor

I agree and think things are gradually coming around but I don't want to waste time trying to salvage NSDAP and it's imagery. I think it's a boat anchor right now and I just want to drop it and focus effort in other places. I worry that by the time it's obvious to normal people that we're getting fucked by jews and commies that we'll already be so far up shit creek…

I agree with the rest of your post

Asher Lee
Asher Lee

I agreed you stink of reddit.

Levi Brooks
Levi Brooks

The public perception of NSDAP and their iconography is extremely negative.

Probably because the NSDAP was responsible for the biggest genocide in human history you stupid knuckledragging racist ape

All Nazis and their families deserve to be exterminated for the sake of human decency

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Cooper Morgan
Cooper Morgan

As director of propaganda for the Party, I took care not merely to prepare the ground for the size of the Movement in its subsequent stages, but I also adopted the most radical type of propaganda in order to make sure that none but the best would enter the organization. For the more radical and stirring my propaganda was, the more did it frighten away weak and wavering characters, thus preventing them from entering the first nucleus of our organisation.
This was all to the good. If all those men, who in their hearts did not approve of the Revolution, had joined our Movement as members at that time, we could regard ourselves to-day as a pious confraternity and not as a young Movement inspired with the spirit of combat. The lively and combative form which I gave to all our propaganda at that time fortified and guaranteed the radical tendency of our Movement, and the result was that, with few exceptions, only men of radical views were disposed to become members.
-Page 659 of Mein Kampf, Stalag Edition.

By being a Nazi, with the Swastika, I would also gather the only kind of people I wanted around me: the tough, dedicated idealists ready to fight for those ideals and give their lives, if necessary. And even more important, I would automatically scare off the millions of blabber-mouths, cowards, fools and crackpots which infest the rest of the ‘movement’. The Swastika would probably not bring me many supporters, but those who came would be men.
-George Lincoln Rockwell, This Time the World, Ch12

All of you are untermensch.

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Jose Ortiz
Jose Ortiz

oy vey
(((public)))
Stopped reading there, OP. The Swastika is the Cross of Thor. It is a holy religious symbol. Any discrimination against it is illegal under Marxist egalitarian law.

Cooper Jones
Cooper Jones

Anti-kekistan memes (our useful idiots)

fake anglo hate

content free post

Thanks for faggy pictures shlomo, one day we'll have kekistanis and based black guys stomping on your throat!

Cheers mate!

Jose Jenkins
Jose Jenkins

back to reddit

Jonathan Nguyen
Jonathan Nguyen

You stick out like a sore thumb.

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Austin Martin
Austin Martin

sh-shut up!

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Jeremiah Howard
Jeremiah Howard

Another D&C content free post. Try again

Nolan Butler
Nolan Butler

George Lincoln Rockwell -acheived nothing -dead

Hitler - achieved nothing - dead

Lets follow their example goys, I'll out on my nazi costume and march downtown by myself what could possibly go wrong?

Jacob Lopez
Jacob Lopez

these vids from alt hype are relevant, there are points I agree with, although the conclusion of dragging teh notsee stone with us I don't agree, and I'm working on a thing responding the the points in these vids which I really think are the best points made so far for the optics cucking side, again stay tuned.

James Foster
James Foster

forgot to actually paste the links
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Caleb Wright
Caleb Wright

pic

s-stop picking on me because i'm inferior y-y-you DnC SHILL!!!

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Alexander Hughes
Alexander Hughes

I'm not advocating fag acceptance. Thanks for trying to slide thread. Get in the bog.

Ryan Kelly
Ryan Kelly

Nazi epithet
I appreciate that you are new and moderately competent but it is National Socialism not Ignatz.

We need to use a combination of everything. Old and new. Whatever works. Be pragmatic and do A/B testing.

Andrew Murphy
Andrew Murphy

I watch alt-hype, his vids are very good. Well researched they are definite red-pill material.

Sebastian Rogers
Sebastian Rogers

calls others an ape
That's racist! Welcome to our side, you didn't even mean to join but now the first racial redpill has sunk in ;)

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Adam Howard
Adam Howard

already been memes and pranks to get people to agree with hitler by putting his quotes matched to the face marx, actors, politicians, etc. that result in the public agreeing with whatever is being said.

Jackson Barnes
Jackson Barnes

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Brayden Kelly
Brayden Kelly

I agree that we should do whatever works, unfortunately I don't think National Socialism and it's memes are working. Also I would probably wear a swastika around if I wouldn't immediately be attacked by commie faggots and thrown in jail for disturbing the peace, but here we are.

This is a good point, but it's not really moving the needle much in our direction.

Zachary Edwards
Zachary Edwards

I am fine with you convincing nigs to stomp on jew throats… who were you shilling for again?

Noah Reed
Noah Reed

Thats all fine and all, but he's wrong about optics cucking just as he was wrong about the ancap stuff back in the old days, gimme some time to type out why

Nicholas Clark
Nicholas Clark

OP you are wrong. Lurk more.

Do you not understand the idea of a normie pipeline? You think we end up this committed and fanatical over night? It takes time, research and acceptance to reach this level of redpill.

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Jaxon Reed
Jaxon Reed

I totally disagree that natsoc imagery is defeated. Look at satanism, their imagery was literally heretical and you had to lay low with satanic imagery until maybe 50 years ago. Now it is prevalent everywhere and is accepted moreso than christianity. Also imagine what you saw on the internet only 5 years ago, not even a small fraction of the natsoc imagery and ideals being spread compared to now. Now it is most places that aren't censored.

People are starting to realize just how much the media lies and are starting to realize that maybe something similar happened to Hitler and Nazi Germany. This is not a bad angle to push, just do it anonymously for now. I am sure in time what happened with pentagrams and satanism will happen anew with the swastika and national socialism.

Jayden Powell
Jayden Powell

11763242
I am a Zig Forums lurker and never post. But I'm getting pissed off with all the jew faggotry I see starting on Zig Forums. I agree Zig Forums is starting to get infested with reddit filth

Nicholas Barnes
Nicholas Barnes

Are leftists really this historically illiterate?

Even if the propaganda against Nazis were true and they did exterminate all 6 gorillion jews, communists genocided literally 10 times that.

Luke Gomez
Luke Gomez

What a shit thread. Kikes literally made a commercial calling Trump Hitler and he won in a landslide. You are all faggots.

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Brody Brooks
Brody Brooks

Thats fine that you disagree. I think you are wrong about satanism. Satanism only gaining any traction in the vacuum left by christianity. When christianity was muscular and assertive satanists dwelled on the fringes where they basically still are to this day.

Ryan Long
Ryan Long

Post more. We appreciate a good signal to noise ratio. Every post counts believe it or not.

Thomas Myers
Thomas Myers

Thanks for proving my point. They are calling him hitler because that works to poison his image. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it. So why try to go through their wall and not just go around?

Daniel Rogers
Daniel Rogers

I agree with your premise that lasting damage has been done and that they've had generations to condition us, but at the same time that conditioning is wearing off in places. It's arguable whether the damage done is irreparable.
I think an unfortunate side of this is that if you do take this line and consciously try not to associate yourself with NSDAP/Hitler in any way then it becomes an effective tool to damage you when the inevitable policy/idealogical beliefs come out. If you are a genuine National Socialist you don't have to wave around a swastika in downtown Charlottesville but eventually you will have to defend your beliefs, and those are obviously similar or identical to those of the Third Reich in reality.

Xavier Fisher
Xavier Fisher

You should kill yourself.

Dylan Sanchez
Dylan Sanchez

ID: a77942

Why isn't this redditor banned yet?

John Richardson
John Richardson

You can only use this imagery here in an absolute free speech zone essentially among people who already agree. You cannot take these ideas into the public sphere currently and address normal people directly.

Personally I used to be a typically vanilla shitlib, but I had the nagging feeling that something was wrong and shit didn't add up. I always hated gays though and no amount of pro fag propaganda ever resonated with me. But I was def a civic nationalist. 4chan /pol / red pilled me a lot before it became overrun, but I was already mostly there by the time I started lurking on 4chan.

I actually think that alt-light and jordan peterson are gateway drugs to our shit.

Levi Williams
Levi Williams

Thanks for letting me know that my thread is good schlomo! JIDF approved goys!

Cooper Cook
Cooper Cook

Stop being a fucking cuckservative retard and read up on radicalism.

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Ethan Robinson
Ethan Robinson

MFW you don't even try to argue agaisnt my points

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Alexander Miller
Alexander Miller

hurr lets ban people who disagree

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Nathan Richardson
Nathan Richardson

changing subject
Wew. Thread is over. Obvious who made this.

Elijah Thompson
Elijah Thompson

still are to this day
Do you know how popular the band "slayer" was? Satanic imagery is completely and totally allowed in the west. Try to make a band or group of any kind with natsoc imagery and you'd get your funding cut in the US or outright arrested in Europe. Satanists can even have their own churches and seem more protected by religious freedom laws than Christians, especially in leftist dominated areas. You want to try to start up a natsoc group? Good luck not getting murdered or arrested.

This makes you sound like a shill. People are clearly becoming more accepting of natsoc imagery if not for any other reason than the leftists have pulled a "boy who cried wolf" on it repeatedly since Trump started running. Five years ago "nazi" was a political death sentence. Now no one other than the far left gives a fuck because the insult has lost all meaning. Give another 5 years and people might actually open their minds to trying to understand what natsoc even means, especially now that it is so apparent that the media lies constantly and that people of the west are propagandized from birth.

Isaiah King
Isaiah King

Yes, you are reddit. No, youre not worth explaining everything to in child language. Just say wignats and leave it at that you anti-white subversive. You called the thread white identity because you dont believe in it. Your arguments are shit "edgy" is not an argument.

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Andrew Gutierrez
Andrew Gutierrez

I agree that it seems to make perfect sense. It seems like a good strategy, but to counter both GLW and AH are dead, and they lost. So what am I to think?

Zachary Garcia
Zachary Garcia

Even if every white person mentally became adolf we still have the problem of demographics.

If you can't see how assblasted and retarded this shill is, you should leave too.
150 millions National Socialists ready to fight
Armed with nukes
Being afraid of any demographic anywhere on earth
muh democracy
Probably a butthurt boomer cuck that can't get over that it was born without a future because it's breeders were retarded kike puppets like it is.

Zachary Richardson
Zachary Richardson

You carry the torch of truth further and move on, never forgetting the truth or pervert it for cucks, inferiors and kikes.
But you don't want us to do that, don't you. Your kind try to tell all of us to either follow Hitler's every word or become neocons. Not gonna happen :^)
The truth will live on and we will kill every kike on the planet and it will be justified.

Joseph Green
Joseph Green

Content free post urging everybody to not consider practical solutions

Thanks guy. You say you have the secret sauce and yet, you don't share it with us, and apparently I am the shill.

Carson Watson
Carson Watson

This thread is a /tv/ raid.

Chase Sullivan
Chase Sullivan

Lets take your argument at face value that there are in fact 150 million national socialists. Where are they all in the USA? Are they in Europe? Because if they are, they're certainly hiding well. THey're not doing anything to end the fucking invasions of 3rd world trash funnelling across the border.

If you can't see how assblasted and retarded this shill is, you should leave too.

What the fuck does this even mean? What are people supposed to do with that statement. If they follow your instructions they just stop thinking about practical solutions to further white identity.

Doesn't sound like something they should do. Even if you don't agree with me, everybody should be think about and making moves to further the acceptability of white identity in public not jsut on the internet.

Eli Allen
Eli Allen

You will never be white.

Dominic Wilson
Dominic Wilson

nice try yid

Benjamin Moore
Benjamin Moore

I'm not telling you to become a neocon. I don't know of any pro-white neocons. So you fail at framing my ideas.

Good kill every kike, I'm not standing in your way. So you are advocating that we follow strategies that have failed in the past when people were even more openly pro-white than they are now. Doesn't seem very smart really does it?

Evan Hughes
Evan Hughes

You presented a hypothetical situation with variables that guaranteed total victory.
I never said there were right now 150 millions National Socialists in the US.
Your very first sentence is already an attempt to lie and manipulate what I wrote.
Eat shit and die, kike!

Henry Reyes
Henry Reyes

Entire thread is "hurr durr all of you Zig Forumsards are larping nazi head shavers"
Telling people in the entire thread to support kike arguments and smear shit on Germans' legacy
And I did say I will always honor the truth, not that I will follow Hitler's every word in the posts above. It is you who won't frame me, filth.

This is what a kike/shill looks like folks. Observe.

Bentley Wood
Bentley Wood

See pic related. Psychological momentum is a thing. Depending on who you ask the tightening spirals of history are also a thing. How much of this is planned to coincide with the 70 year/7 year global prophecy cycle is hard to ascertain.

Rothschild cycles, jew prophecy, subversion, it is hard to wrap your head around where ZOG control ends and our chaos begins. It has been my life work to try to delineate these phenomena.

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Kayden Price
Kayden Price

aesthetic memes you 30 year old fucking boomer genz can't get enough of them. kindly report to your nearest gas chamber

John Carter
John Carter

Hardly. The fact that you are a shill is obvious. You're only goal is to end this thread. You don't advance any ideas that are better or more helpful or shoot my down with actual intelligent statements, you just call me a kike. I'm judging you by your actions.

If you want to be a public Nazi go right ahead. I think you are full of shit though. You will honor the truth? How does pegging white identity to nazi iconography achieve anything?

Please lay it out for me. I'm waiting.

Jordan Ward
Jordan Ward

I think your argument is cogent and you make some good points.

What you are saying is similar to what Storming AA says about the wisdom of reclaiming the identity of America's Founding Fathers, and of using American nationalist symbolism - such as the flag.

OPTICS - In Scandinavia the men of the Nordic Resistance Movement wear white shirts, present clean optics, and avoid 3rd Reich symbols.

& of course Generation Identity uses the ancient Lambda symbol that ancient Spartans used.

However, I love the 3rd Reich, and I feel that the only thing Hitler did wrong was to not listen to the advice of his generals - in particular regarding the need to fall back and regroup at Stalingrad. So I will always react well to 3rd Reich symbols. I also like ancient German symbols that pre-date the Reich, such as the Iron Cross.

And BTW, not every race feels as negative as you describe about the 3rd Reich. In Thailand and Japan the old black-red-white colors of WWII Germany, as well as the hakenkreuz (swastika) are quite well liked.

Just use whatever symbolism you think is best, user. The movement is healthy and will do well with diverse opinions and strategies.

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Jeremiah Roberts
Jeremiah Roberts

Nigger please. This trolling is weak

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Dominic Parker
Dominic Parker

You're only goal is to end this thread
Indeed, kike. You are telling people to join the kikes in the quest to smear dirt on the legacy of Hitler and his people. I don't want nor need to put out any "intelligent" statement to some disingenous kike.

If you want to be a public Nazi go right ahead
You see, I never said this. Find me where I said this?
How does pegging white identity to nazi iconography achieve anything
Never said that you have to do this in the current political climate at the moment.

Anything else, you filthy fucking subhuman?

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Asher Nguyen
Asher Nguyen

the advice of his generals - in particular regarding the need to fall back and regroup at Stalingrad
His generals WANTED that frontal charge to Moscow. Hitler wanted Baku for the oil.
The Prussian nobility of the German High Command were just as at fault.

Christopher Perez
Christopher Perez

Kill yourself leddit.

Brody Reed
Brody Reed

reddit spacing

William Adams
William Adams

Indeed, kike. You are telling people to join the kikes in the quest to smear dirt on the legacy of Hitler and his people.
Nope thats your framing. I said that people should further white identity in any way except using Nazi iconography which has been successfully poisoned in the public sphere.

You will spend so much effort trying to salvage it's reputation that you will accomplish nothing of value. That's my opinion and I obvously could be wrong, but thats how I see it.

You seem to be some kind of sperg/ or extreme autist who can't be reasoned with in any practical way. Do whatever you want I don't care to be honest. If you have some way to salvage the image of Nazi iconography or hitler or whatever then please offer it up. I think that your ideas will be shit but I hope I'm wrong.

Josiah Jenkins
Josiah Jenkins

Does this actually work? Do goys ignore posts because you found a gramatical or other spacing error? Do tell.

William Fisher
William Fisher

You still can't find me where I said everyone has to goosestep downtown to save European cultures.
You can stop now. People here can already see your seething hatred for Hitler and his quest to save his people from kike capitalism and communism in these posts
You seem to be some kind of sperg/ or extreme autist who can't be reasoned with in any practical way
It is real in your mind, yid. Good luck trying to convince us to start using "hwhite nationalism isn't evil NUTZISM" in public.
If you have some way to salvage the image of Nazi iconography or hitler or whatever then please offer it up. I think that your ideas will be shit but I hope I'm wrong.
The first step is obviously to kill subhumans like you when the first chance reveals itself.

James Sanders
James Sanders

n Thailand and Japan the old black-red-white colors of WWII Germany, as well as the hakenkreuz (swastika) are quite well liked.

I love seeing this shit and I think it's awesome. TBH I think we would have more success with Nazi memes outside of Europe and NA than within.

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Jason Perry
Jason Perry

biggest genocide in human history you stupid knuckledragging racist ape
Hi juden, how's that film projector working out for you? Sure must've served you well.

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Austin Hall
Austin Hall

You seem to be some kind of sperg/ or extreme autist who can't be reasoned with in any practical way
And if you want to convince people here, try not to be a kike and accuse people with your false dilemma first :^)

Ethan Cook
Ethan Cook

biggest genocide
My jewish neighboor survived 66 extermination camps and he witnessed the ass goblin of Auschwitz.

Elijah Edwards
Elijah Edwards

The Kekistan civiccucks don't even share our end goal, so it's not even about them being "moderate". As far as actual white nationalism goes, you can't use Hitler's time as a guide to our time, and Rockwell is an overrated failure, sorry, but he objectively failed to get off the ground even before he was sadly assassinated. Hitler got into power and challenged the world, but the difference between Hitler's time and ours is that nationalism was actually popular back then, so Hitler is only saying use the most radical nationalist propaganda and promote the most extreme means for it, but the end goal of a white society was widely shared in German society, and many of the non-natsoc conservatives only disagreed on the means to achieve it, and they wrongly thought Hitler was too barbaric. In our time, hardly anyone even agrees on the end goal because they have been so brainwashed, and so yes, you can get the best with radical propaganda, but there will be approximately 100 of them, and it won't be enough. The tactics that worked then don't apply now. Spreading the idea that whites should fight for their own identity is the goal you need to achieve before you can even establish a National Socialist means of doing so.

Anthony Gonzalez
Anthony Gonzalez

Thanks for outing yourself. There's no further need to respond to you.

No useful ideas, just fake nazi rage. You don't have anybody's best interest at heart. Please put in my place by giving real concrete ideas that aren't "kill subhumans".

Killing subhumans comes after taking power. You have to take power first. Come on le real nazi tell us how you will take power, how will you futher white identity by going out into the public sphere with symbols that are illegal? How do you make these symbols legal? Do you have anything useful to say?

Pic related: This is where we are right now. So I guess your big propaganda victory is just around the corner amirite?

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Cooper Butler
Cooper Butler

Election politics inevitably lead to white minority, were fighting a genocide, whats not practical is doing it with both arms tied behind our back blindfolded.
The mass lemming opinion is irrelevant, winning the (inevitable one way or another) race war is the only viable and practical solution. Read siege, attack the system, or shut the fuck up and go back to plebbit with your PR cucking TRS astroturf bullshit.

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Austin Torres
Austin Torres

jews ruined NSDAP
give up on it
That is the opposite of what anyone would suggest
However, here are some points that should be considered:
Stop associating NSDAP with neo-nazis/skinheads/etc (basically the prison white supremacists). Tattoos of swastikas, 1488, white pride, etc. are degenerate and makes our beliefs look like a fucking joke embraced by criminals. On top of that, most of the above I have ever known were blatant race traitors and had no grasp of history, jewish subversion, science or anything other than 'fuck niggers, unless we are buying/selling drugs with them'.

Find a new way to represent the swastika in a favorable light. It isn't a shirt, a pin or, as I said above, a tattoo. Find ways to demonstrate it attached to acts of kindness, heroics, happiness.

Point one was most important though. Call out these criminal assholes that drag NSDAP down even more. When people think of our beliefs they think of "muh holocaust" and these criminal shits now.

Justin Morgan
Justin Morgan

anti natsoc posting
You outed yourself in the OP, shill. Astroturfing this garbage is race treason.

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Sebastian Taylor
Sebastian Taylor

I will actually read siege and see what it says. Maybe you're right and this 70+ year descent into a low trust 3rd world society is just about to turn around. I dunno.

Oliver Moore
Oliver Moore

I bet you will still respond though, kike. Your "best interest" is to rip the legacy of Europeans from them.

Please put in my place by giving real concrete ideas that aren't "kill subhumans".
Why would I reveal what I do on this honeypot to a kike?

You have to take power first
And it certainly doesn't include civnat cucking bullshit. You even said it here, kike :^)
Since you started this thread by shaming us, now it is appropriate for you to present your plan. One that also doesn't involve civnat bullshit "based foreigner" propaganda like you hate :^)
Come on. Do tell.

The thing is so transparent yet so oblivious. Definitely no shekels or tendies for it tonight.

Nathaniel Price
Nathaniel Price

I was a liberal too, I got brain washed. No shame in that, I broke it, so did you. But on the subject of NatSoc, you couldn't be more wrong, abandoning the image, and the symbology along with it is retarded. You do sound new here, not trying to be a cock, just letting you know so you don't get shit on as hard. I disagree on all your points, and don't believe them to be or to accurate m8. If someone asks or calls me a Nazi, I just say "yep".

Ethan Hill
Ethan Hill

youtube.com/watch?v=ttguCMBy1Jw
youtube.com/watch?v=ljMPafQpfDU
youtube.com/watch?v=SrmTPs9iLWA
youtube.com/watch?v=Br75AVGbQSU&t=2170s
youtube.com/watch?v=A_6J74qzpRk&t=220s

Okay guys, so what are we fighting for? The 14 word right? How do we do that, do we get the chinese to come take over and keep us in a zoo to stop us from going extinct? No we have to convince the whites to save themselves. Why won't they save themselves at the moment? It's the anti white narrative at the center of which is the bogus concept of racism that demonizes any racial thinking done by white people be it positive, negative, correct, or incorrect. Now what is the term? It's a vague slander term that takes lies about Hitler and conflates it with white racial thinking, and you can only convince people to get this racism concept mode of thinking out of the way in 2 ways.
1. You can defeat peoples prejudices and misconceptions about hitler, or
2. You can explain the bogusness of racism as a concept and get people to try and stop using it which if for whatever reason they buy and start to cast aside the term will eventually force them to concede to the naive reality you arrive at when you just look at things like iq data.
However, either way to make really either of these arguments is to be labelled a racist and you'll have to deal with a stone to carry up the mountain as emotionally heavy to normies as the hitler stuff anyways.
But arguing the hitler stuff is more efficient, on the surface it seems like pro white racial thinking is one stone you're trying to carry up the mountain and the hitler stuff is just another stone tacked on, but you're forgetting the great trick that the left pulled off to make the pro white stone so heavy in the first place, and that is to make it emotionally connected to the hitler stuff anyways, so in other words, adding the hitler stone doesn't make your load any heavier unless it gives away that you were lying for temporary sympathy among the left and optics cucking. Besides dismantling the concept of racism as a term that shouldn't be used can only work on decently 'intelligent' people, and it won't be very useful since if that leads them to a conversation with somebody, that person that you convinced will have to themselves reassert the whole lets not use racism thing, and once they get to a certain level of stupid shitlib it won't matter what you tell them they'll just use the term racist anways in which case the best you can really do is the whole gradual redpill meme in which scenario it doesn't matter if your end thing is the hitler stuff or not, the person going the optics cucking route would probably do the same thing as the hitlerite in that situation.

I thought that these next few points in response to alt hype would take up more of this, and I was gonna cite timestamps and yada yada but I'm just gonna kinda list paraphrasings of his points in greentext
'I'm aware that all the allied camps are found to not be deathcamps but the ones in soviet territory are because they said they are, why would to soviets lie about their mortal enemy? wink wink'
'It doesn't even matter if kicking the hitlerites out was even optics cucking or not because hitler wasn't even pro white, he didn't like the slavs and all'
'Yea yea I know that poland, and russia were aggressor nations and that it was a necessity to act act as they did in these slavic territories'
'Hitler worked with the japanese and thas not pro white because (stuff about racial theory that I haven't really seen proof of either the historic or neo natsocs ever believing)

I mean I'm open to proof that hitler may have believed wierd racial views that are just kinda wacky not pro white and just out there, but I haven't been shown any, and I kinda just think this is Ryan trying to justify optics cucking, and really what I have to say about optics cucking is yes, maybe if you're in a one on one debate just as a small unknown guy, pretend to be not as far right and go for the gradual redpill, but we can't ever censor ourselves in our own spaces, and thats kinda the behavior I think people are against when they say fuck optics cucking. Don't have your group optics cuck that'll just compromise the integrity of your movement and get the good people to jump ship on it and the bad to stay.

However, me saying don't optics cuck your group's interior beliefs is not the same as me saying just go around and do the stupid marches with your Natsoc group of friends, those things don't do much for us and have the big downside that they're covered by unsympathetic press

Hudson Edwards
Hudson Edwards

Stop associating NSDAP with neo-nazis/skinheads/etc (basically the prison white supremacists). Tattoos of swastikas, 1488, white pride, etc. are degenerate and makes our beliefs look like a fucking joke embraced by criminals.

This is the first practical thing anybody has said in this thread about rehabilitating the image of natsoc.

But again: "find ways to represent the swastika in a favorable light" hasn't happened successfully yet in the 70+ years since the end of the war. If it does happen I am on board ,but I don't see a way currently.

I mostly agree with your post, and my only disagreement is that I think that ultimately the image will not be redeemable.

On the one hand jews show prison documentaries with white supremecists who are essentially just criminal trash and aren't a good association for natsoc, and on the other hand you have media displaying them negatively to this day. So it's an uphill battle that doesn't even address the core concern that it should be ok to be white.

Ethan Long
Ethan Long

Maybe you're right and this 70+ year descent into a low trust 3rd world society is just about to turn around. I dunno.
It isn't.
That's why any effort spend trying to plug holes in this sinking ship is wasted. We need to be laying the foundation now so that once the system breaks apart at the seams we already have a semi-functioning system that can replace it.

Whether the current order dies a natural death or we find an opportunity to give it the final push remains to be seen so don't come at me with the "hurrdurr ur a doomsday prepper" horseshit. Quit whining about ebul natsees and go make some white kids that will live on to see the shit we're speculating about.

Colton Williams
Colton Williams

siege is for edgy faggots.

Noah Howard
Noah Howard

FUCK
OFF
ALT
KIKE

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Jordan Taylor
Jordan Taylor

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Cooper Lee
Cooper Lee

Pic related is the TLDR of Siege pretty much. People who are happy and comfortable dont risk the luxuries they have to lose, people who are poor and disenfranchised with nothing to lose are the ones who are willing to risk themselves for a higher cause. We will never vote to stop white genocide in mixed race countries with anti-discrimination laws, the politicians dont even talk about it as if its a problem and they are unanimously anti-white, pro-kike. The system is designed to exterminate us, and so we must refuse to take part in the system. The Turner Diaries is another good book and its where the final pic related is from. Read it, and actually read it and absorb what it has to say.
The goal is not to improve things slightly, the goal is not to put in a right wing candidate who will strengthen the economy. The goal is to bring it all down, and ONLY THEN will whites form resistance groups, organized resistance. Until then, its on small groups of people or lone wolves to individually bring about those conditions.

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Noah Nguyen
Noah Nguyen

Reminder people who dismiss revolution and radicalism as "edgy" are child minded lemmings who you should obviously ignore. Civil war is coming, theres going to be a lot of dead people. If your argument is "that sounds edgy" your opinion is not welcome.

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Alexander Wood
Alexander Wood

We will never vote to stop white genocide in mixed race countries with anti-discrimination laws
I agree with this. Even so we need to get white people into white identity. What's the spoonful of sugar that makes the medicine go down. If it's natsoc then make it happen. I don't think it is though, so I want to think of some other way, or some other symbols that lead to the same destination.

The Turner Diaries is another good book and its where the final pic related is from. Read it, and actually read it and absorb what it has to say.

I've heard of it but never read it. I will do that and see how it goes.

Parker Harris
Parker Harris

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Christian Butler
Christian Butler

You're either new to Nazism or you're a kike.

There's a reason why battalions of Muslims, Japan, a few African nations, Germans, and Americans fought for Hitler. Nationalism is for all races, except kikes, they need to die entirely.

Nolan Jenkins
Nolan Jenkins

siege is for edgy faggots.
says the TRSodomite. go suck more e-celeb dick.
Civil war is coming, theres going to be a lot of dead people. If your argument is "that sounds edgy" your opinion is not welcome.
Vote your way out out of white genocide, goy, don't form militias or strike against the kike system just keep listening to our podcasts :^)

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John Garcia
John Garcia

Pushing for racial awareness is largely irrelevant, whites will figure out they are different when the roaming nigger gangs show up on their doorstep. Its already happening, pic related is just the tip of the icerberg. A white minority is not acceptable and any means necessary are justified to avoid it. As far as Im concerned voting is capitulation, its compromising with non-whites on our future and it wastes time on fruitless pursuits. The entire mindset of attempting normal political change through election politics requires a compromising of beliefs and toning it down for idiots who are controlled by kike media.
Rejection of election politics is required to pursue radicalism, only the minority matters. We have 10% saying Natsoc is okay, we have enough.

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Alexander Fisher
Alexander Fisher

The fact of the matter is Hitler won through voting. Hitler was elected by the people through the democratic process not open revolution.

John Cook
John Cook

I agree that voting is not a solution. The demographic situation in the west means that that door has closed. Realistically I think succession is the only option. Succession and the formation of a white ethnostate.

I don't agree that pushing for racial awareness is a waste of time. I see more and more mudsharks every day. I want mudsharks to understand explicitly what they are doing when they go mudsharking.

Eli Lee
Eli Lee

Remind Peterson that Jung supported the NSDAP for maximum rustling.

Jayden Diaz
Jayden Diaz

Nobody gonna respond to this?

Jack Perry
Jack Perry

These kikes think they can poison our food and water to make our birth rates drop off the map. The kike believes that is the best way to slowly poison and neuter the whites.

The thing that the nose nigger forgot was that mortality rates can be raised with the pull of a trigger.

Brody Harris
Brody Harris

Realistically I think succession is the only option. Succession and the formation of a white ethnostate.
And you think this is going to be peaceful?

Ryan White
Ryan White

I guarantee you it will not be.

Adrian Fisher
Adrian Fisher

Personally in my ideal future, there aren't any people who aren't white in my country. So I don't really give a fuck about based which non-white people fought for the nazis. They lost so obviously armies of shitskins aren't a whole lot of good for us.

Luke Carter
Luke Carter

There are many movements which are basically NS but without the negative connotation of having started WW2.
We have to have practical goals, practical political demands to
a) Liberate ourselves from the Jews, and
b) Ensure a future for our people.
Everything else is secondary. Historical revisionism is a waste of time; history doesn't remember who was right, it remembers who was left.
The best example of accomplishing practical goals in recent history would be Brexit. Stick with winning.

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Juan Robinson
Juan Robinson

I don't know if it will be peaceful or not. However I think we need to get as many white people on board as possible before that happens. Really we all need to move to the same place and shift the demographics then secede. That is the only practical solution in my mind right now.

Parker Jackson
Parker Jackson

Yes exactly. I agree totally with this.

Jose King
Jose King

That's your belief. That is not Hitler's Nazism. Ethnonationalism is the goal, regardless, but if you start with the "well, I don't want any blacks on this land mass at all" then you're on your own, comparatively. Separate, sure. That's Nazism. Not wanting other races to share the same benefits of pure breeding and self-determination of their race free of the same poison we deal with? That makes you an untermensch, in Hitler's ideals. That is foreign to the Nazi.

Charles Smith
Charles Smith

Manages to misspell Moshe
God why can't any of you spell the most basic kike names

Evan Morales
Evan Morales

Nobody gonna respond to this?
Very textwall, pretty tl;dr tbh.
I kinda just think this is Ryan trying to justify optics cucking,
He's a faggot libertarian like the rest of the alt kike.
However I think we need to get as many white people on board as possible before that happens.
Watch William Luther Pierce's speeches about Lemmings and you'll see why this is literally an impossible feat unless you have Systematic power, which we will not attain without memes warfare. Hitler took power with 30% support with (seemingly) miraculous luck and incredible support from highly influential and intelligent Germans who were still, in some way, instrumental to the state. We do not have anyone in state who is pro-white, they've long been weeded out by the satanic pedo kikes.
Not wanting other races to share the same benefits of pure breeding and self-determination of their race free of the same poison we deal with? That makes you an untermensch, in Hitler's ideals. That is foreign to the Nazi.
Stop talking garbage, JIDFaggot, NS was explicitly focused on the Germanic people, no one else.

Owen Gonzalez
Owen Gonzalez

I don't have any interest in wiping out other races and if they get self determination when we get ours then I'm not opposed to that, however: achieving self determination and nationhood for blacks or mestizos is not my goal, if they get it too then great if not I don't really care. I'm not for wiping them out or excluding them from the NA landmass just the white part of it.

Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones

There is only one war that needs to be fought if it's done properly, and we don't even necessarily "need" to do it ourselves. Eliminate all Jews to their last and you win, the other races win, the world wins. Who is best suited to do this?

The kikes are in Bilderberg right now pushing a reversal to immigration. Just tell the Muds that the kike is the one pushing this, and the directions to their nearest synogogue at which "to protest". Kike the kike.

Dylan Thomas
Dylan Thomas

NS was explicitly focused on the Germanic people, no one else.
To follow up on this.
While NS can be practiced by anyone, it is not a necessary for you to believe in or support the nationalism of other peoples. Especially when other claims directly contradict your own.

Do I wish nonwhites the best? Sure, I'm no monster. So long as they stay the hell away of Europe and the colonies we'll all get on just fine.

Brandon Kelly
Brandon Kelly

We do not have anyone in state who is pro-white, they've long been weeded out by the satanic pedo kikes.

It will come from below.

Kevin Taylor
Kevin Taylor

I'll agree he has counterproductive libertarian biases, but his work as one of the right's 'magic science men' is a very important tool to get newer anons to build up their library of hate facts

Camden Allen
Camden Allen

NS was explicitly focused on the Germanic people, no one else.

If, and this is a big 'if'. IF that were true, Germany would have stood alone. Nazism was appropriate for wide use then, as it is now.

Chase Wood
Chase Wood

You misunderstand me.
I am not saying that they hated all other people. I was trying to drive the point home that we have no duty to carve up the USA for the blacks and browns already here out of some cucky idea of "I believe in the nationalism of ALL peoples look at how not racist I am guys we're on the same side right".

Grayson Clark
Grayson Clark

The public perception of NSDAP and their iconography is extremely negative.
optics cuck
<reddit spaces

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Jackson Sullivan
Jackson Sullivan

This is what I want to say. Start with the things you can do, fix your life, redpill your neighbor on the kikes, go campaigning for a far-right party. Small things lead to big things. Endlessly discussing why the Nazis lost ww2 is nothing but self-indulgence, it won't make the world a better place.

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Wyatt Sanchez
Wyatt Sanchez

The best example of accomplishing practical goals in recent history would be Brexit
he still thinks Brexits happening
Fucking civnats

Cameron Gonzalez
Cameron Gonzalez

FIrst pic, has no nazi imagery, none zero.
Actually there is one. Check shirt on guy number two. This is a meme version, but it's still the same thing.

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Isaiah Fisher
Isaiah Fisher

Only an anglo scum.
Brexit is as much of a victory as all those trans atlantic agreements not happening. You are deluded.

Gavin Long
Gavin Long

oy vey, don't use Nazi iconography you goy, even though Hitler proved himself as one of the greatest artists of all time by designing an A-E-S-T-H-E-T-I-C that by passed your cerebelum and tapped into your limbic brain collective unconscious reducing the falsehoods of the world into primal instinctual truths about Race that we all subconsciously know to be true.

while you kvetch about muh optics what will the Shitlib Marxists think about you if you fly the Hakencreuz and Sieg Heil, there is one force out there who doesn't give a shit about appealing to soccer moms and smug urban soy boys.

while you waste your time looking to the past, you blinded yourself to the future.

ISIS is coming.

it is 100% that sometime soon, before Trump's 2nd term ends, that ISIS will pull off a 9/11 The Sequel.

come back then and tell us all to hide our power levels and just be cool with being Based CivNats bro.

you fundamentally misunderstand the whole world, so your opinions are worthless.

we're already at war. world war 3 started at least in June 2013. the cogs may turn slowly, but all it will take is one spark to ignite the chaos if total war.

then you'll see fucking soccer moms taking fashion advice from Cosmo about which style of Nazi armband they should wear.

humans are natural herd creatures who seek safety in numbers. when TSHTF and survival of the fittest kicks in, people flock under the banners of whomever looks strongest to protect them.

you think faggy American flags backed by a technology dependent overstreched half-mongrel nigger army who stand for nothing who's oaths to "muh defend the Constitution from Enemies foreign and domestic" is meaningless because their real loyalty is to defend the EMPIRE's Zion and CIA/WallSt (((interests))) around the world and to back the Federal Reserve's fiat plunder with a bullet–you think that hollow ideology stands a chance against tens of milliions of Soldiers of Allah?

At the very least, Based CivNat will always be incapable of even saying the solution to the ISIS problem.

by 2050, the population of MENA will add 800,000,000 new mouths to feed.

if just 1% of them join ISIS, it's game over for the west.

the faggots at the Pentagon and the CIA may be able to put a Hellfire missile through the windshield of a Honda 5,000 miles away from a Reaper drone 60,000ft above, but they have zero fucking plan to deal with the demographic reality of The ISIS Problem.

because there is only one solution.

a final solution.

we have to exterminate hundreds of millions in MENA to prevent ISIS from ever attaining an army numbered in millions of soldiers.

presently, only us Zig Forumsocks have the stomach for that.

even discussing such an idea in polite company is verboten.

but once we do it, once that momentum is gained, guess what's going to happen?

why just stop at MENA? we built up a new war machine that made WW2 and Operation Overlord look like a sand castle, so why not let it continue its course and exterminate the rest of the non-Aryans to clear up Lebensraum for our great great grand kinder?

as you can see, nothing can contain a timeless and pure and ideal force such as what our Fuhrer unleashed.

Hitler didn't even invent it, he was only the greatest Avatar who harnessed that eternal force that has been with every human since we took our first steps out of the tall grass millions and millions of years ago.

The Will To Power.

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William Williams
William Williams

Why call the english people scum? You should be happy they spend a lot of money as tourists in Israel. That revenue probably bought the computer you are typing on right now!

What the fuck is the point of your post. If you hate the english there are plenty of people who hate them and white people on leftypol, or the internet in general.

Ethan Lopez
Ethan Lopez

They saved the kikes and communists in ww2?
Try harder, yid.

Jose Johnson
Jose Johnson

So the symbol you ran with is the strasserist one? Gas yourself, or add something to represent the intellegensia, if you're claiming to be someone truly in favor of class cooperation.
It certainly isn't about expending your own blood and treasure for the benefit of other peoples.
succession
FFS, secession. Succession is the process by which the next leader is chosen, and in monarchies this is usually hereditary.

Colton Morris
Colton Morris

ISIS has not got anything to do with this thread. So nice attempt to derail but you failed. You apparently understand the aesthetics of Natsoc so well that you posted your faggy wall of text that no one will read.

Pic related: Natsoc and it's symbols are cool and edgy, but the well has been poisoned and we have to move forward.

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Colton Kelly
Colton Kelly

Moving first on your body, yid.

Justin Robinson
Justin Robinson

They did what they thought was right. They are not scum. You aren't a white nationalist, hating english people you aren't even pro white.

Jaxon Torres
Jaxon Torres

ISIS has not got anything to do with this thread.
Does the fact wahhabism is the world fastest growing religious movement have nothing to do with optics

Lincoln Rogers
Lincoln Rogers

If ISIS is not in Europe or NA then what the fuck do I care about them? Muslims will eat other. Problem is solved from my end.

Oliver Wright
Oliver Wright

They did what they thought was right
So did MILLIONS of commies and other retards in history. So it is ok to drop NSDAP imagery and praise communism now?

You really are a sad little subhuman. Must be hard, accepting that your granddaddy was a retard who brought this hell on you, now that you have do every form of mental gymnastic imaginable to rationalize "solutions". First by shaming the good guys killed by your retarded granddaddies.

white nationalist
Of course I'm not. I'm not a mutt. All Europeans are inherently pale. It is not up to discussion. Our uniqueness is much deeper than that.

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David Ortiz
David Ortiz

It's a good quote, something every right-winger needs to know, but you cannot let your movement hinge on attention from the Jewish media. We have our own media now, besides, actions create attention much more than optics.
The bottom line is that social comfort is a matter of degree. If you go for the most radical optics, you will attract only the greatest social outcasts. With the exact same ideology and actions but different optics you can attract a much larger base, among whom you will much more likely find people with the crucial technical skills to make your movement succeed.
Brexit is as much of a victory as all those trans atlantic agreements not happening.
Then it is a significant enough victory.

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Bentley Diaz
Bentley Diaz

If opticscucking worked than they never would of been gotten support to begin with civfag

Adam Edwards
Adam Edwards

Trying so hard to convince people you call losers and autists to do something that they themselves do, just not in your way.
Daily reminder that all kikes and their golems will die horribly and suffer in hell.

<The point
You
Brexit isn't even happening. They don't even pretend to let the goyim think it will.

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Dominic Rodriguez
Dominic Rodriguez

Natsoc and it's symbols are cool and edgy, but the well has been poisoned and we have to move forward.
Here's the thing: rule of cool may come into play. They've got the snazziest outfits ever made. The enemy is only expanding the definition of what a "NAZI" is, seemingly by the day. Keep calling everyone a Nazi and eventually you're going to be right.
Additionally, even if we win completely without using any Hitlerian symbols but when they slander us by invoking the name and are essentially correct then we should still save the swastika. It's one of the oldest symbols of our people.

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Gabriel Wood
Gabriel Wood

With the exact same ideology and actions but different optics you can attract a much larger base, among whom you will much more likely find people with the crucial technical skills to make your movement succeed.
This is what boomer OP wished to say, if it actually isn't a kike.
Basically, have many wings under your control.

Nathan Stewart
Nathan Stewart

So did MILLIONS of commies and other retards in history So it is ok to drop NSDAP imagery and praise communism now?

You are a thread sliding faggot. Nobody is shaming the germans, nobody is praising communism.

Natsoc imagery has been defeated in the public space. Period. We need a new way to get those ideas out there. You don't seem to have them. So get some ideas or figure out how to successfully rehabilitate the image of natsoc sometime this millenium.

You have no ideas, you have nothing to contribute. You are just another smug asshole with nothing useful to say.

Henry Walker
Henry Walker

With the exact same ideology and actions but different optics
What do you do when you are called a nazi anyway? Jews aren't going to stop calling everyone a nazi and it's not like you can even deny it if you don't compromise your ideology.

Justin Mitchell
Justin Mitchell

inshallah :^)

Michael Sullivan
Michael Sullivan

You are a thread sliding faggot
You really don't know how things work here. YOU created this thread, you cretin. How am I the slider?

Natsoc imagery has been defeated in the public space. Period.
You wish, KIKE :^)
You don't seem to have them. So get some ideas or figure out how to successfully rehabilitate the image of natsoc sometime this millenium.
You don't either. This entire thread are people rightfully berating you and people who pity you enough to share their idea. YOU didn't present a single thing.

You are just another smug asshole with nothing useful to say.
Just my natural reflexes when dealing with kikes/inferiors and cucks.

Justin Parker
Justin Parker

The enemy is only expanding the definition of what a "NAZI" is, seemingly by the day. Keep calling everyone a Nazi and eventually you're going to be right.

I don't know if this is happening fast enough.

I'm not saying to throw out the symbols, but we don't have to attach them to white identity and the preservation of white peoples and cultures.

Once we win, we can do whatever we want, but we have to win first. Are swastikas the best way to do that? Today right now, I would say no. I could be wrong, or maybe in 5 years the situation will be different.

Jackson Price
Jackson Price

Remember, back in Hitler's time the swastika was like a lucky charm, it had no negative connotation to it whatsoever, just an ethnic Indo-European one for the historically educated.
We need the same positivism today, and not the association with 60 million dead.

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Gavin Williams
Gavin Williams

We need the same positivism today, and not the association with 60 million dead
How is 60 million dead subhumans not positive?

Bentley Jackson
Bentley Jackson

You wish, KIKE :^)

I don't wish, but it is what it is. I'm trying to find a way around the wall. You are saying we should all just run up and attack the most defended place. You are stupid.

You can swastika all day long once we win.

You don't either.
No I don't have the solution, I am looking for another way to win. You are saying that we should keep trying the same methods that already failed and are already discredited and regarded by the public as pure evil. That is retarded in my opinion. Obviously you disagree but due to your retardation that does not surprise me.

Easton King
Easton King

Exactly. This is where I am coming from. We need new symbols that connect to the same message and evoke positivity in white people.

Oliver Bailey
Oliver Bailey

Jews aren't going to stop calling everyone a nazi
But the people are going to get tired of this.
it's not like you can even deny it if you don't compromise your ideology.
You can deny everything, there is no reason whatsoever to earnestly argue with the enemy. Cook something up, there's plenty of fascist literature, make a small adjustment here or there and then claim that's what set you apart from NS.
The enemy media will always demonize you. What counts is that you let your actions and your media speak louder.

Isaiah Sanchez
Isaiah Sanchez

fuck off kike

Jack Edwards
Jack Edwards

I'm not saying to throw out the symbols, but we don't have to attach them to white identity and the preservation of white peoples and cultures.
I don't disagree, but I kind of agree with the anons saying that it will be attached for you. Having talked to cuckservatives plenty of times, they have very odd ideas about what is and isn't racist, and I have no doubt that supporting policies like banning immigration isn't racist to them. It could quite seriously happen that they end up supporting what are essentially National Socialist policies, and when the enemy calls them
NAZI
they will respond
<autistic screeching this has nothing to do with the hollywood nazi I believe was real!
It was used on almost everything at the time. Cigarette companies, whatever.
Basically any ethnically European symbol is treated as if it were a swastika today, even if it was never used for a pro-European purpose at any time. That's because the real goal is attacking all Europeans, but you have to be aware of quite a large amount of information to realize that.

Kayden Long
Kayden Long

It was a serious question

Daniel Young
Daniel Young

ISIS understands optics a million times better than Based CivNat pussies.

if we listen to faggots like Angl1n's advice, and just pretend George Washington was a Secret Nazi, then our Meme War will be demolished by ISIS' Meme War.

we hear it non stop in WN circles going back decades, "nobody has a plan going forward, we're all stuck waiting for Hitler to respawn and lead us again."

well i just proposed one tactical propaganda plan going forward.

spinning it not as "omg Nazis eww gross", but as "holy shit i had no idea how fucked we are versus ISIS, maybe i better reconsider whether Hitler did anything wrong or whether he should have" is a new and NOVEL approach to reversing the dismal optics towards National Socialism, which The Jew has pounded into everyone's brains for 70 years.

by reframing the entire context as "only Nazis can protect us from ISIS" allows us to spread our propagands the same way ISIS spreads theirs.

but don't think i'm being cynical to manipulate Memetics like Machievelli.
i really do personally believe what i said.

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Oliver Moore
Oliver Moore

You are saying that we should keep trying the same methods
Where
did
I
say
that?

You try too hard, subhuman.

They call the fucking life rune "racist", you dumb fuck.

Nicholas Davis
Nicholas Davis

The very idea of focusing young men into holy warriors willing to die for their people mean that muds will wipe out all weaklings in their vicinity.
This is what they currently have over the West and it is no joke.

Thomas Reed
Thomas Reed

ISIS is literally just a media fiction. They are a bunch of jihadist groups funded by the US and Israel for the purpose of destroying Syria.

I assume the goal will be for israel to secure more territory and the US to gain access to, well, IDK what the fuck the US gets out of it other than Israel ordered it to do something so they do it.

The problem with your idea is that nobody considers ISIS a real threat. Certainly not shitlibs.

I could see them wanting shelter from 3rd world crime. That is a better meme because they actually ARE afraid of mestizos and blacks even if they don't admit it. If a white ethnostate could save them from that, they would vote for it, or move there.

Eli Collins
Eli Collins

They call the fucking life rune "racist", you dumb fuck.
Which is despite or because of the fact that they subverted it into their (((peace symbol))), it's upside down and then trapped in a magic circle. It's about the most neutering thing you can do to that symbol.

Christopher Bailey
Christopher Bailey

That is the point. Retard/shill OP and the anglocuck spewing things that we already know about.
I mean first page of google "life rune", FIRST LINK leads to the ADL's "definition" of it. What is more natural and peaceful than the life rune? And they defame even it.

This is why people shit on retarded subhuman OP.

Colton Bailey
Colton Bailey

They call the fucking life rune "racist", you dumb fuck.
The swastika isn't racist either, so what's your point?

Chase Gutierrez
Chase Gutierrez

by reframing the entire context as "only Nazis can protect us from ISIS"
I chuckled.

Jackson Wilson
Jackson Wilson

The point is that trying to say YOU have a right to exist can already land you in really hot water.
So what is the point of cucking and deluding yourself? Not to mention that you actually think Brexit works, consider that the UK will adopt Article 13.

No time for bullshit.

Michael Price
Michael Price

Chuckle even harder at the anglo scum meeting the inevitable karma. Karma is probably real though, from all the paki and poos you imported.
1945 payback is so fucking sweet

Elijah Gray
Elijah Gray

Just start a civil war already!
Fucking anglomutts larping as nazicucks
Hello Ari!
How was the week in TelAviv?

Siege
People who are happy and comfortable dont risk the luxuries they have to lose, people who are poor and disenfranchised with nothing to lose are the ones who are willing to risk themselves for a higher cause.
Acceleratism
Works perfect for the whites in South-Africa
Has never worked, neither for faggot anarchists, who invented it, nor for retarded communist larper who wanted to bring world revolution to western worker. This time, with Nazi larper agent provocateurs it is going to happened.

Reminder people who dismiss revolution and radicalism as "edgy" are child minded lemmings
Revolution is not about killing people and breaking stuff, but organizing and propaganda.
Learn about successfully revolutionaries HoChiMin, Mao, Lenin

In Thailand and Japan the old black-red-white colors of WWII Germany, as well as the hakenkreuz (swastika) are quite well liked.
That is because the swastika is a buddhist symbol.

I love seeing this shit and I think it's awesome. TBH I think we would have more success with Nazi memes outside of Europe and NA than within.
Shitskins generally like Hitler. That isn’t because they agree with him on saving Germany or the white race.
They like that he fucked over their overlords, tormentors, the former colonial powers. Many, those who are jew wise muslims like him for trying to stop the jews.

We can debunk the Holocaust
How about ignoring that shit and concentrating on what counts, the enemy invasion of foreigner and their helpers in the country?

Look at satanism, their imagery was literally heretical and you had to lay low with satanic imagery until maybe 50 years ago. Now it is prevalent everywhere and is accepted moreso than christianity.
(((Who))) could be behind that? Maybe we should ask (((them))) for advice?

Five years ago "nazi" was a political death sentence. Now no one other than the far left gives a fuck because the insult has lost all meaning.
Because it is ridiculous to call (((Trump))) a Nazi.

Give another 5 years and people might actually open their minds to trying to understand what natsoc even means,
Is your political platform building a highway through the Polish corridor to Danzig?
If not why, using that laden branding.
You can use the exactly same political philosophy as Hitler and 70-80 percent would agree, ignorant of the fact they share his political outlook.

Attack them where they are weak and haven't already won. Just push IOTBW and the fact that white identity and white culture are ok.

Wise words.

In our time, hardly anyone even agrees on the end goal because they have been so brainwashed, and so yes, you can get the best with radical propaganda, but there will be approximately 100 of them, and it won't be enough. The tactics that worked then don't apply now. Spreading the idea that whites should fight for their own identity is the goal you need to achieve before you can even establish a National Socialist means of doing so.

We will never vote to stop white genocide in mixed race countries with anti-discrimination laws
I agree with this. Even so we need to get white people into white identity.

If white people discover their interest are the same as Hitler, all pieces will fall in place. For that it is not necessary for them to know that connection beforehand.
That is the reason why jews want to destroy all white people, not just Germans. They fear white people becoming wise about them.

Ethan Jones
Ethan Jones

The point is that trying to say YOU have a right to exist can already land you in really hot water.
So what is the point of cucking and deluding yourself?
No, I wouldn't say so. There is a gigantic chasm between the IOTBW campaign and the flag of the 3rd reich.
Chuckle even harder at the anglo scum meeting the inevitable karma.
What is your problem? Every nationalist applauds Brexit, it's a greatly effective monkey wrench thrown into the works of globalism.

Xavier Ward
Xavier Ward

1945 payback is so fucking sweet
I'll assume German then. Do you hate all Anglos from everywhere in the Angloshpere, or just the ones in England.

Parker Cruz
Parker Cruz

No, I wouldn't say so. There is a gigantic chasm between the IOTBW campaign and the flag of the 3rd reich.
Between US, yeah. To them we are correctly all the same. Well, I actually don't have to do mental gymnastic though.
What is your problem? Every nationalist applauds Brexit, it's a greatly effective monkey wrench thrown into the works of globalism.
I did too. Then I realize it was as real as Trump's wall.

Only the ones who are still retarded enough to cheer for the sealing of the fate.
Same for Russians.

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Robert Brown
Robert Brown

*their fate

Liam Stewart
Liam Stewart

Only the ones who are still retarded enough to cheer for the sealing of the fate.
In that case, I am sorry. Pics related. All the colonies should have picked the other side, like Patton said. Fighting for communists was always a mistake, even if attacking an economic enemy was England's only goal.
Between US, yeah.
Here's this again

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Chase Adams
Chase Adams

economic enemy was England's only goal.
And funny how that backfired so fucking hard, hah!
They really achieved nothing.

Lincoln Long
Lincoln Long

He's an autistic gay scientism fag who doesn't have a single spiritual bone in his gay libertarian body.

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Ryder Peterson
Ryder Peterson

And funny how that backfired so fucking hard, hah!
They really achieved nothing.
Yeah. After WWI the Empire was barely still in existence to begin with, and none of the colonies had any economic interest in that contest. Especially not the colonies that were themselves promptly thrown to the wolves. No, I'm not one of these, but knowing what I know about it now, I wish it were still a country and I could go there. It was an entire Anglo race that's dead now. It's not like we haven't lost as well.

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Camden Jackson
Camden Jackson

I guarantee he's more useful than you. Other than taking a shit every day you produce nothing. Even your shit is worthless.

Samuel Carter
Samuel Carter

I was just banned and unbanned, I had a serious reply but of course I cant remember what it was now, several hours later. Anyways, Germany was a racially homogeneous country, non-whites are never going to vote for their own political disenfranchisement which is part of the 25 points of National Socialism: Only the race can be citizens and have rights. That means non-whites have to be made not-citizens under any National Socialist platform. Thats not happening without revolution.
The only National Socialist in 2018 who isnt larping is one who tells you that you cant vote for National Socialism. Anyone else is larping, and likely actually a civic nationalist trying to fucking vote with based blacks, disgusting.

Jayden Torres
Jayden Torres

The only way out of genocide currently that I see is secession. Whites all move to some area, and since they demographically dominate they vote that area to separate. In order to prevent this the rest of the country would explicitly have to hold them hostage. At this point the true nature of whats going on is revealed and even actual literal retards can see whats happening. Talking about armed revolution at this point is pure ridiculous and suicidal fantasy.

Josiah Bennett
Josiah Bennett

Please go in to oven.

Grayson Evans
Grayson Evans

It is illegal to display this iconography in almost every part the world.
Not in the part that matters, your weird laws don't apply to us. And national socialist LARPers aren't going to stop just because you asked nicely. There's no point trying to get through to them.

Nicholas Phillips
Nicholas Phillips

That doesnt solve the whites problem, it solves the America problem which is merely a colony in the end and whites would gladly "fall back" to Europe in some disaster event. Europe itself is being wiped out in the same way and there can be no simply compromise where niggers get half of Austria or something, for example. Were not splitting Europe up into nigger countries, they need to be removed. Race war is for all countries, and if balkanization is the result in the US for one example, then so be it. Voting for it wont happen though, and the government would never allow it if it could resist, the goal should be to defund the government pretty much. No money, no power.

Landon Williams
Landon Williams

Sure thats a great idea, but in order to defund the government you have to either take it over, or have significant power that you can pass your laws, or initiate a tax revolt and get enough people to participate. Option 1 and 2 are not possible currently (i dont think so anyway) and option 3 will have many people going to jail. However NOBODY can stop you from just up and moving to another state, or locality within whatever country you live in.

As for Europe: Yes it is being overrun. But just as spain was overrun we can regroup and take it back again (a recoquista) but we first have to keep existing in order to do that.

David Stewart
David Stewart

Sure thats a great idea
Thanks but its not like I made it up. People who actually read Zig Forums material understand this is pretty much the only way and its what Pierce was pushing even if he wasnt overtly saying "accelerationism!". He did say attack the system, in that responsible conservatives cap from TTD.
but in order to defund the government you have to either take it over, or have significant power that you can pass your laws, or initiate a tax revolt and get enough people to participate.
Not really, no. Theres other options. (((Gene Sharp))) for example demonstrates a nearly entirely peaceful revolution simply through non compliance. Im not saying we should follow him, Im just saying "tax revolt" is a pretty basic understanding. How about a general strike? How about not paying tickets? How about filling out a bunch of forms and sending them into the government just to waste the time and fill the system up with trash. What if 10,000 people buy into this idea because 100 people told them its great. Thats when the economy collapses.

Jack Stewart
Jack Stewart

THE METHODS OF NONVIOLENT PROTEST AND PERSUASION
Formal Statements
1. Public Speeches
2. Letters of opposition or support
3. Declarations by organizations and institutions
4. Signed public statements
5. Declarations of indictment and intention
6. Group or mass petitions

Communications with a Wider Audience
7. Slogans, caricatures, and symbols
8. Banners, posters, and displayed communications
9. Leaflets, pamphlets, and books
10. Newspapers and journals
11. Records, radio, and television
12. Skywriting and earthwriting

Group Representations
13. Deputations
14. Mock awards
15. Group lobbying
16. Picketing
17. Mock elections

Symbolic Public Acts
18. Displays of flags and symbolic colors
19. Wearing of symbols
20. Prayer and worship
21. Delivering symbolic objects
22. Protest disrobings
23. Destruction of own property
24. Symbolic lights
25. Displays of portraits
26. Paint as protest
27. New signs and names
28. Symbolic sounds
29. Symbolic reclamations
30. Rude gestures

Pressures on Individuals
31. “Haunting” officials
32. Taunting officials
33. Fraternization
34. Vigils

Drama and Music
35. Humorous skits and pranks
36. Performances of plays and music
37. Singing

Processions
38. Marches
39. Parades
40. Religious processions
41. Pilgrimages
42. Motorcades

Honoring the Dead
43. Political mourning
44. Mock funerals
45. Demonstrative funerals
46. Homage at burial places

Public Assemblies
47. Assemblies of protest or support
48. Protest meetings
49. Camouflaged meetings of protest
50. Teach-ins

Withdrawal and Renunciation
51. Walk-outs
52. Silence
53. Renouncing honors
54. Turning one’s back

Noah Rogers
Noah Rogers

THE METHODS OF SOCIAL NONCOOPERATION

Ostracism of Persons
55. Social boycott
56. Selective social boycott
57. Lysistratic nonaction
58. Excommunication
59. Interdict

Noncooperation with Social Events, Customs, and Institutions
60. Suspension of social and sports activities
61. Boycott of social affairs
62. Student strike
63. Social disobedience
64. Withdrawal from social institutions

Withdrawal from the Social System
65. Stay-at-home
66. Total personal noncooperation
67. “Flight” of workers
68. Sanctuary
69. Collective disappearance
70. Protest emigration (hijrat)

THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOPERATION: ECONOMIC BOYCOTTS


Actions by Consumers
71. Consumers’ boycott
72. Nonconsumption of boycotted goods
73. Policy of austerity
74. Rent withholding
75. Refusal to rent
76. National consumers’ boycott
77. International consumers’ boycott

Action by Workers and Producers
78. Workmen’s boycott
79. Producers’ boycott

Action by Middlemen
80. Suppliers’ and handlers’ boycott

Action by Owners and Management
81. Traders’ boycott
82. Refusal to let or sell property
83. Lockout
84. Refusal of industrial assistance
85. Merchants’ “general strike”

Action by Holders of Financial Resources
86. Withdrawal of bank deposits
87. Refusal to pay fees, dues, and assessments
88. Refusal to pay debts or interest
89. Severance of funds and credit
90. Revenue refusal
91. Refusal of a government’s money

Action by Governments
92. Domestic embargo
93. Blacklisting of traders
94. International sellers’ embargo
95. International buyers’ embargo
96. International trade embargo

THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOPERATION: THE STRIKE


Symbolic Strikes
97. Protest strike
98. Quickie walkout (lightning strike)

Agricultural Strikes
99. Peasant strike
100. Farm Workers’ strike

Luke Scott
Luke Scott

Strikes by Special Groups
101. Refusal of impressed labor
102. Prisoners’ strike
103. Craft strike
104. Professional strike

Ordinary Industrial Strikes
105. Establishment strike
106. Industry strike
107. Sympathetic strike

Restricted Strikes
108. Detailed strike
109. Bumper strike
110. Slowdown strike
111. Working-to-rule strike
112. Reporting “sick” (sick-in)
113. Strike by resignation
114. Limited strike
115. Selective strike

Multi-Industry Strikes

116. Generalized strike

117. General strike

Combination of Strikes and Economic Closures

118. Hartal

119. Economic shutdown

THE METHODS OF POLITICAL NONCOOPERATION


Rejection of Authority
120. Withholding or withdrawal of allegiance
121. Refusal of public support
122. Literature and speeches advocating resistance

Citizens’ Noncooperation with Government
123. Boycott of legislative bodies
124. Boycott of elections
125. Boycott of government employment and positions
126. Boycott of government depts., agencies, and other bodies
127. Withdrawal from government educational institutions
128. Boycott of government-supported organizations
129. Refusal of assistance to enforcement agents
130. Removal of own signs and placemarks
131. Refusal to accept appointed officials
132. Refusal to dissolve existing institutions

Citizens’ Alternatives to Obedience
133. Reluctant and slow compliance
134. Nonobedience in absence of direct supervision
135. Popular nonobedience
136. Disguised disobedience
137. Refusal of an assemblage or meeting to disperse
138. Sitdown
139. Noncooperation with conscription and deportation
140. Hiding, escape, and false identities
141. Civil disobedience of “illegitimate” laws

Action by Government Personnel
142. Selective refusal of assistance by government aides
143. Blocking of lines of command and information
144. Stalling and obstruction
145. General administrative noncooperation

146. Judicial noncooperation
147. Deliberate inefficiency and selective noncooperation by enforcement agents
148. Mutiny
Domestic Governmental Action
149. Quasi-legal evasions and delays
150. Noncooperation by constituent governmental units

Evan Long
Evan Long

International Governmental Action
151. Changes in diplomatic and other representations
152. Delay and cancellation of diplomatic events
153. Withholding of diplomatic recognition
154. Severance of diplomatic relations
155. Withdrawal from international organizations
156. Refusal of membership in international bodies
157. Expulsion from international organizations

THE METHODS OF NONVIOLENT INTERVENTION


Psychological Intervention
158. Self-exposure to the elements
159. The fast
a) Fast of moral pressure
b) Hunger strike
c) Satyagrahic fast
160. Reverse trial
161. Nonviolent harassment

Physical Intervention
162. Sit-in
163. Stand-in
164. Ride-in
165. Wade-in
166. Mill-in
167. Pray-in
168. Nonviolent raids
169. Nonviolent air raids
170. Nonviolent invasion
171. Nonviolent interjection
172. Nonviolent obstruction
173. Nonviolent occupation

Social Intervention
174. Establishing new social patterns
175. Overloading of facilities
176. Stall-in
177. Speak-in
178. Guerrilla theater
179. Alternative social institutions
180. Alternative communication system

Economic Intervention
181. Reverse strike
182. Stay-in strike
183. Nonviolent land seizure
184. Defiance of blockades
185. Politically motivated counterfeiting
186. Preclusive purchasing
187. Seizure of assets
188. Dumping
189. Selective patronage
190. Alternative markets
191. Alternative transportation systems
192. Alternative economic institutions

Political Intervention
193. Overloading of administrative systems
194. Disclosing identities of secret agents
195. Seeking imprisonment
196. Civil disobedience of “neutral” laws
197. Work-on without collaboration
198. Dual sovereignty and parallel government

Caleb Smith
Caleb Smith

BTW they fucking used skywriting for tommy robinson the other day. I bet they got the idea from these rules.

Leo Parker
Leo Parker

Documentary on the kike behind the ideas. "How to start a revolution"

Camden Barnes
Camden Barnes

Donate to the poor and destitute whites, marked for death on cold concrete, while foreigners are imported in the millions by a hostile government.

pic related
They are always very thankful for help, even from an overt nationalist.

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Asher White
Asher White

wait, you fucking kike invader motherfucker, if there's no bad optics of NatSoc, why are you afraid to go full fashy in your every day life, in public, among acquaintances, at work etc?

Angel Kelly
Angel Kelly

Hey, its the you from the lolberg thread! what, no le 56% memes this time?

Bentley Flores
Bentley Flores

Nice alt kike "muh optics" thread BTW.

Ethan Wood
Ethan Wood

So spending any effort to rehabilitate the image of Nazism or Nazi iconography seems to me to not be a pragmatic approach.

Yeah, that's cool and all, but we're gonna do that, anyway, faggot.

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John Nelson
John Nelson

I live in a 100% white neighborhood, and my immigrant neighbors from Colombia keep playing songs in Spanish. How do we resolve this clear case of fracture in the White Community?

Cameron Thompson
Cameron Thompson

Kill yourself dacaryan faggot.

Liam Clark
Liam Clark

What?

you fucking kike invader motherfucker, if there's no bad optics of NatSoc
Never said that. Where did I said that, you god rejected subhuman heretic doomed to eternal dammnation motherfucker?

Cooper Cox
Cooper Cox

There is no such thing as a "white" identity. Sure, there is an American identity, an English identity, a Scottish identity, a Welsh identity, an Irish identity, a French identity, a German identity, a Polish identity, a ……

You get the picture. Continental Europeans have a vastly different intellectual and political tradition than the Anglos, though ultimately none of them are actually white anyway because only gingers are actually white.

Adam Reyes
Adam Reyes

They didn't have the internet user.

Cooper Johnson
Cooper Johnson

The white identity is the identity of European.

I like how you can have an asian identity or an african identity but not an european one.

Sebastian Barnes
Sebastian Barnes

NSDAP was suited to the nature of the German folk. National socialism for America will need to be suited to the euro american Diaspora. that means new imagery. New myths. Trying to necro bump Nazism into relevance is not only a bad tactic, it's against the fundemental philosphy of national socialism. The politics of a people should spring from their history culture and art. It is the spirit of America that we seek to strengthen. American nationalism must be replete with the mythos of the founding fathers and honor the pioneer spirit.

Jaxon Bennett
Jaxon Bennett

Traditional Americana aesthetic , constitution posting, and founding fathers worship is European american identity. To say no fusion existed is disengenuous. We were on right path before 1965 immigration kikery.

Jose Lee
Jose Lee

Your attempts to create a 'liberal safe' pro-white movement will fail because you cannot create 'good optics' when your enemy holds the camera. It will also fail because the younger generation has grown completely tired of clean corporate friendly duplicitous horseshit.
The only way we can do this from a media/propaganda perspective is to create a subculture of people who genuinely don't care what the media talking heads say at all, and openly mock them and their lies. We need to push that, because media skepticism is incredibly popular now.
The other absolutely vital thing is to live your ideology. The ultimate goal is to save and better our people, to bring us to serve a higher purpose than ourselves. Everything else is secondary. You can tell someone who became drawn into this because they are genuinely National Socialists, and the others who are bitter angry edgefags who just want become hollywood nazis. Live your ideology, know what you have to offer. We are right, we fight for order and truth. We are the good guys, start acting like it.

We'll be waiting for you when you realize this. I think your efforts are noble and I genuinely support them, because I think some people will learn things from you, and a small percent will want to continue learning and end up as part of our camp. You might succeed in buying us time, which is also very important to us.

But at some point, you're going to hit a wall because you will be blocked out of any real power. You'll be given just enough rope to hang yourselves. Neo-nazis are generally self-defeating idiots, it's true.
But at the end of the day, when you come up to the brick wall and realize you've been stopped from going any further, we'll be finding ways to push it further.
I don't want to discourage you, getting people to take the first few steps is great.

Jason Reyes
Jason Reyes

What does Zig Forums think
I think muh PR newfags should lurk for 15 years before posting entry level questions that were already settled here three years ago

Levi Carter
Levi Carter

PR?
We aren't trying to appeal to weak and cowardly.
Those seeking truth will never think that strength is ugly or that beauty is weak.

Logan Rodriguez
Logan Rodriguez

The public perception of NSDAP and their iconography is extremely negative.

According to who? Senior citizens in Israel?

While you spend effort being an edgelord or advocating people to repair the image of NSDAP and their symbols

While you spend your time shitposting for the JIDF… You just start this week or some thing? Nobody is trying to get Swastikas… hahaha. Though I am guilty of wearing Hugo Boss. I'm I an edgelord? hahaha.

are busy demonizing white identity in general and making that illegal.

Oh it's going to be illegal to be White, is it? haha going for that sage.

If you listen to anyone who tells you to display this imagery in public they are setting you up for arrest/punishment. (again they win)
and you help to make their case for them that white identity itself should be criminalized.

Bruh… you think that's a thing, do you? Random guys telling people to throw up Swastikas and whatever else? You haven't been hanging out in public washrooms again, have you OP? Anyway thanks for the super neat, full of autism thread I guess. I'll be on the lookout for those guys saying, 'psst, hey kid, want to make Nazism great again?'

Isaac Gutierrez
Isaac Gutierrez

PERMITTED COLOURS & FLAVOURS USED

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Joseph Evans
Joseph Evans

50th anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem
Interestingly, Israel pulled a page from their official gov site detailing the Jubilee Year of 2017/8, alongside references to 1897 (First Zionist Congress), 1917 (Balfour Declaration), 1947/8 (State of Israel declared and recognised by UN) and 1967 (Arab-Israeli War).

Kikes are obsessed with prophecies—namely, giving new meanings to very old scripture texts like Leviticus 25 and their reference to the mixed multitude in Exodus, leading to the Holocaust myth/Zionist victory and pushing miscegenation respectively. I have a working hypothesis that this is just another aspect of their group neuroses, the inability to accept responsibility for their own actions. This way they are able to blame their demon god for everything they do.

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Leo Evans
Leo Evans

I am a bit slow.

Is Critical Thinking a good or a bad thing?

William Perry
William Perry

?

Adrian Ortiz
Adrian Ortiz

Is Critical Thinking a good or a bad thing?
(((critical theory)))
Critical thinking helps to spot the bullshit

Xavier Carter
Xavier Carter

Natsoc imagery has been defeated in the public space. Period.

I could not disagree more. Gay imagery has made publicly acceptable something once deeply despised in the public sphere. Embrace the memes. But you already know this since your people have been memeing for 2500 years.

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Alexander Gray
Alexander Gray

its like his head became hitlers mustache.

Daniel Morris
Daniel Morris

Natsoc imagery has been defeated in the public space. Period.
Hitler has become immortal.
Extreme strong branding, including the swastika.

I could not disagree more. Embrace the memes.
Question is when and were to use.
The problem is not the strength of Natsoc imagery, but the self perception of the people.
They were made to hate themselves. There was a complete reversal of values quite satanic
It is not like in the jewish flic, Exorcist, were the devil flee if confronted with the sign of the good.
What is going to happen is, if you confront a normal-fag with the sign of the good, he will flee and his conditioning will stay.

We first have to deprogram the normies, like the victims of a death cult. Think of the world were they, you and I live as a very big version of Jones-Town Guyana.
If that says you nothing, search on the web for Jim Jones, Peoples Temple and what this fraud did preach. Scary if you become aware of the parallels to today. Check his political friends as well.

Christian Rogers
Christian Rogers

nobody calling out OP for using the like term for natsoc

Jaxon Mitchell
Jaxon Mitchell

bump

Zachary Adams
Zachary Adams

So spending any effort to rehabilitate the image of Nazism or Nazi iconography seems to me to not be a pragmatic approach.
Then perish, if you want to throw some of the most powerful symbols of mankind under the bus because some kikes and golems are kvetching about them.

David Peterson
David Peterson

No

Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

YES OP, YOU ARE CORRECT

Nolan Wood
Nolan Wood

bump

Brayden Lopez
Brayden Lopez

It is illegal to display this iconography in almost every part of the world
No its not…

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Alexander Thomas
Alexander Thomas

Seriously though, you fundamentally miss the point.
So spending any effort to rehabilitate the image of Nazism or Nazi iconography seems to me to not be a pragmatic approach.
This is because you're effor will be to merely pull the reputation of NSDAP and their iconography out of a very deep hole.
Why is NSDAP demonized?
Because of the ideas it espoused.
So, if you espouse those ideas… Wait for it…

…. You get called a 'nazi'.
So, you think its better to just spend all your time denying being a 'nazi', while promoting the ideals of NatSoc, in a blatant demonstration of hypocrisy that causes normal people to question your motives, instead of merely repairing the image of the group who last espoused those ideals such that you no longer have to deny association with them?
And you believe this on the basis that it will be hard and take time to repair such image, ignoring completely that the duration within which you will continue to be called a 'nazi', and wherein the hypocrisy in promoting equivalent ideals will continue to be blatant, is effectively infinite?

While you spend effort being an edgelord
Yep, you're a jewish shill.

Jack Robinson
Jack Robinson

You clearly have no fucking idea what you’re saying.

Blake Collins
Blake Collins

FUCK OFF ALT KIKE
STAY ON YOUR SODOMITE CONTAINMENT WEBSITE
/trs/index.html

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Easton Wright
Easton Wright

George Lincoln Rockwell -acheived nothing -dead
Hitler - achieved nothing - dead
Lets follow their example goys
We're reaching levels of TRSodomite that shouldn't even be possible. Reported.

Lucas Perez
Lucas Perez

Hitler - achieved nothing - dead
Hitler is probably the most famous person on Earth

Brandon Ortiz
Brandon Ortiz

could women vote then?

Elijah Murphy
Elijah Murphy

could women vote then?
Yes, since 1918

Christopher Barnes
Christopher Barnes

WTF? Where did that come from?

Adrian Murphy
Adrian Murphy

That pict! This is exactly the way I feel about the whole thing.

Caleb Ross
Caleb Ross

Pict two…I am not a huge fan of politics since they are alway corrupt (jews/masons/zionists) but this is why I return to NS over and over…it is not for the 'politics', it is for the ideology behind them.

Ryder Wilson
Ryder Wilson

WTF? Where did that come from?
Newfag
It's a joke on Dick Spencer, TRS and the Way of Men by Jack Donovan

Aiden Morales
Aiden Morales

((you))

James Thomas
James Thomas

So spending any effort to rehabilitate the image of Nazism or Nazi iconography seems to me to not be a pragmatic approach.

This is because you're effor will be to merely pull the reputation of NSDAP and their iconography out of a very deep hole.

This is the point that needs to be made.

Trying to rehabilitate Nazism is like giving your comatose great-grandfather another month on life support instead of saving the life of a healthy young man.

THAT SAID. You are free to use Nazi symbols, so long as you do so intelligently. This can have a positive impact on our movement. Your message must be "Nazis can be good" not "I'M A NAZI, LOOK AT MEEEE!"

Samuel Roberts
Samuel Roberts

LGBTPQ is negative about anything that is not them

Colton Myers
Colton Myers

I consider myself a National-Socialist because I support the 25-point Program, that doesn't mean I need to wave Swastika flags around. We need to gain power first, we can rehabilitate the NSDAP afterwards. Keep the message the same but use traditional symbols* and historical figures from your own country. The CPUSA understood this by co-opting Abraham Lincoln during their Popular Front period. The British Fascists cited the Tudors etc.

*I'm fully aware the Swastika is an ancient symbol found in much of Europe, but the black swastika in a white circle on a red background = Third Reich and is an obvious loser with the public. The kikes love that flag, they use it all the time to perpetrate "hate crime" hoaxes.

Justin Lewis
Justin Lewis

Notice that these SWASTIKA-ONLY posters never do anything concrete, and would never dare to do anything other than criticize.

Their sole job is to condemn any sort of action aside from those that would get you doxxed, fired, or arrested in most countries.

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

This is because you're effor will be to merely pull the reputation of NSDAP and their iconography out of a very deep hole.
That's my only goal tbh so I'm ok with that.

Evan Barnes
Evan Barnes

Their sole job is to condemn any sort of action aside from those that would get you doxxed, fired, or arrested in most countries.
Go back to your sodomite forum you worthless faggot /trs/index.html
You're going to get doxed whatever you do you fucking moron.
Checked.
This should be one of the primary goals because the entirety of western morality is currently based on the idea that the good guys won WW2. Even basic-bitch normalfag boomers can be convinced that the good guys didn't win WW2, all you have to say to them is
Hey d00d, look around you, look at Europe, do you really think the good side won WW2? Do you really think this is what our boys fought for?

Christian Turner
Christian Turner

This is fine - to some extent even necessary - but you have to actually pull it out of the hole through intelligent and moral conduct.

Alternatively you can just act like a degenerate Hollywood stereotype and drive it further into the hole. So far most have opted for the latter.

Jason Richardson
Jason Richardson

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Jayden Collins
Jayden Collins

be alt lite

Calling someone X is only bad when you give a negative reaction / become defensive.

NatSoc iconography is not perceived as negative, it is perceived a powerful. There is a thread about this right now. White movements are growing. White identity is growing. National Socialism is growing. We aren’t going backwards, faggot

Lucas Foster
Lucas Foster

bump

Robert Gutierrez
Robert Gutierrez

Pretty sure this festering shit has been addressed repeatedly.
OP, you’re either a fucking low grade moron, a jew or marxist.
Perhaps some heinous combination of all three.
I made the cap especially for U! enjoy

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Oliver Edwards
Oliver Edwards

there is no such thing as white identity, its an insult towards the german nordic race.

Easton Bennett
Easton Bennett

That's why we're civil rights advocates who support Democratic candidate Pat Little in 2020. Reminder you have to register as a Dem to vote in the primary.

Logan Cruz
Logan Cruz

You do realize half of Zig Forums is accelerationist now, right? If anything having hate speech laws enacted in America would lead to a larger group of disenfranchised and thereby redpilled whites. Never react or fall for the traps set by jews.

Aaron Morales
Aaron Morales

bump

Elijah Cook
Elijah Cook

nazism
what's that?

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