卐NSG卐 - National Socialism General

Carson Richardson
Carson Richardson

Thread for discussion of National Socialism, Fascism, Traditionalism, and European Identity Movements. Share links, PDFs, reading, videos, and propaganda.

卐We are NOT an ideology but a worldview of truth卐

卐 - REPORT IN FOR YOUR COUNTRY!
卐 - TAKE BACK THE BOARD!
卐 - DRIVE OUT DEGENERACY!

ARCHIVED ROPECULTURE ARTICLES:
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13 GIGABYTES OF SELF-IMPROVEMENT RESOURCES!
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ᛉ - NEWS, RADIO, COMMENTARY & FORUMS
autonom.pl/
judas.watch/
thepurityspiral.com/
fashcast.org/articles/
xryshaygh.com/en
minds.com/Mr_Bond/
coincidencedetector.com/
ordoevangelistarum.com/
democratieparticipative.biz/
spreaker.com/show/nordic-frontier
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nordfront.se/english
alexlinder.com/
vnnforum.com/

卐 ANTI-MISCEGENATION PASTEBIN pastebin.com/tGMEhbhf

卐 - THE SCIENCE OF RACE
Basics:
Diversity + Proximity = War:
mega.nz/#F!UvpEHJ4b!sn00aYPdrx_yS-W70fAcIw
Race and Sex Differences in Intelligence and Personality by Helmuth Nyborg
libgen [dot] io/book/index.php?md5=1792DBBF0D866D2476E1455DD8DAFF0F
Human Accomplishment - Charles Murray
gwern.net/docs/2003-murray-human-accomplishment.pdf
Dysgenics: Genetic Deterioration in Modern Populations
docdro.id/avPyEsh
Race Differences in Intelligence by Richard Lynn
docdro.id/e2pEr1E
pastebin.com/Q1hMEC4a
humanbiologicaldiversity.com/

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Other urls found in this thread:

thequint.com/voices/opinion/genomic-study-vedic-aryan-migration-dravidian-languages-sanskrit
sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/05/010515080044.htm
sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090923143333.htm
thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/how-genetics-is-settling-the-aryan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece
well.ox.ac.uk/~gav/admixture/2014-science-final/resources/FAQ.pdf
youtu.be/325EEEmRUuA
youtu.be/BPgq1c4TYi4
youtu.be/oN4w8e432_o
youtu.be/56Bc9UoxklQ
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germanpropaganda.org/juden-sehen-dich-an/
timesofisrael.com/most-israeli-jews-agree-africans-are-a-cancer/

Nathan Walker
Nathan Walker

卐 - ARYANISM
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">We document a southward spread of genetic ancestry from the Eurasian Steppe, correlating with the archaeologically known expansion of pastoralist sites from the Steppe to Turan in the Middle Bronze Age (2300-1500 BCE)."
thequint.com/voices/opinion/genomic-study-vedic-aryan-migration-dravidian-languages-sanskrit
In India, members of higher ranking castes are genetically more similar to Europeans, while lower castes are more similar to Asians.
sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/05/010515080044.htm
sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090923143333.htm
Some quotes from the Rigveda, the oldest Indo-European text.
"At the swift draught the Soma-drinker waxed in might, the Iron One with yellow beard and yellow hair. He, Lord of Tawny Coursers, Lord of fleet-foot Mares, will bear his Bay Steeds safely over all distress." Indra - 10.96.8
"Indra throws drops of moisture on his yellow beard." Indra - 10.23.4
"The swarthy skin, the hated of Indra" - Rigveda IX 73.5
The Rig Veda praises the God who "destroyed the Dasyans and protected the Aryan colour." - Rigveda. III 34.9
"Indra protected in battle the Aryan worshipper, he subdued the lawless for Manu, he conquered the black skin." - Rigveda. I 130.8
The Rigveda thanks God for "scattering the slave bands of black descent", and for stamping out "the vile Dasyan colour." - Rigveda. II.20.7, II 12.4
This choice sums up the Aryans opinion of their non-white subjects: "Black skin is impious" - Rigveda. II.12.4
thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/how-genetics-is-settling-the-aryan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece
A study by Hellenthal et al. (2014) on the DNA of the Kalash people showed evidence of input from modern day Germany and Austria between 990 and 210 BC, a period that overlaps with that of Alexander the Great…
well.ox.ac.uk/~gav/admixture/2014-science-final/resources/FAQ.pdf
http://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(15)00137-8

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Luke Morgan
Luke Morgan

卐 - GAYS, TRANS, LGBT - THE DEGENERACY AGENDA
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Required viewing:
youtu.be/325EEEmRUuA [Embed]
youtu.be/BPgq1c4TYi4
youtu.be/oN4w8e432_o
youtu.be/56Bc9UoxklQ
Homesxuality EXPLICITLY linked to Pedophilia:
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youtu.be/gXGlawiibK8

The History of Gays: pastebin.com/fGbWWsfA
The Cause of Gays: pastebin.com/fytXNYzU
The Psychology of Gays: pastebin.com/nQ0Qhv7T
Gay Statistics: pastebin.com/xj2nq5B3
The Cause of Trannies: pastebin.com/n7443LL8
The Psychology of Trannies: pastebin.com/iVh2Qd5h
Tranny Statistics: pastebin.com/qXHQ3Xcu
Incest: pastebin.com/sfY0wB4F
Pedophilia: pastebin.com/fX94Bw9n
Pedowood: pastebin.com/PEsK8Scd
Bestiality: pastebin.com/umXFBSLA
General Links: pastebin.com/8WRrfj0L

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Gavin Lopez
Gavin Lopez

fuck off kike

Daniel Stewart
Daniel Stewart

these threads always look so impressive and then go absolutely nowhere. do something cool.

Levi Collins
Levi Collins

Back to halfchan with you. These threads are good and a lot of the videos linked in the pasta are really good.
Only a kike calls someone like OP a kike. Checkmate.

Sebastian Long
Sebastian Long

Not meaning to insult or offend, but let's talk about why a lot of extroverted natsoc types are fat and ugly. I believe in virtually everything Hitler did but I consider myself a 9/10 and I'm also not a faggot.
Why can't more outspoken natsocs be mentally stable and not fat or faggots? It hurts the cause.

Hunter Morgan
Hunter Morgan

With the stigma the 卐 holds in this time in history, do you think you're ever going have support? Get rid of the old symbolism, it has been utterly destroyed by the Jews, something new must come from the ashes.

Tyler Young
Tyler Young

I care only to attract those already attracted to the Swastika. I know they are devoted and, against all stigma, are willing to stand with the solar ideal. I do not care for someone who will whine about a symbol not appealing to the video game playing, marvel watching, average man-child.

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

don't use ancient symbols Europeans have branded into their blood and souls

Are you stupid or just Jewish?

Camden Myers
Camden Myers

Alright im going to actually answer you. The vast majority of people here enjoy the rhetoric but have no intention to act on any of their beliefs and thus do not adopt an appropriate lifestyle to accompany them. It isnt even their fault, there just isn enough social support out there for the modern natsoc man

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Jack Jenkins
Jack Jenkins

also theyre fucking jews man

Brody Evans
Brody Evans

Makes sense.

Daniel Smith
Daniel Smith

No, we're not optics cucks. Youre either with us or against us. The Alt right has tried this and it doesnt work.

Dominic Fisher
Dominic Fisher

MODS MODS MODS

The NSDAP viewed the KKK the as the epitimy of American stupidity and racism, and the KKK viewed the NSDAP as muh ebil notzees.

Never conflate the national socialist movement with idiots who wanted to import more blacks into the US.

Gavin Scott
Gavin Scott

Its a cool aesthetic but other than that theyre p gay

Jaxson Miller
Jaxson Miller

Fuck you demon queer , the sigil of Thunraz is eternal, unmovable and unstoppable just as the Vajra

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Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell

David duke is fucking gay as shit, the first klan was the best imo

Alexander Sullivan
Alexander Sullivan


German ancestry settled in US before jew war 2 My genetics grant me awesome power no jew could ever have however their smut and gengeneracy should only be seen by men that can break it down and expose it as jew filth without being corrupted by it.It literally is that nasty jews are fucking the lowest filth of humanity and have to be releated to the romani gypsy.

Liam Parker
Liam Parker

fuck off jew

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Lincoln Scott
Lincoln Scott

DEGENERACY*

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Adrian Scott
Adrian Scott

You fuck off. 4/pol/ has black nationalism generals. Maybe those are more to your liking.

Alexander Lopez
Alexander Lopez

You cuckchanners have some nerve. This board is NatSoc, not a single containment thread.

Christopher Flores
Christopher Flores

卐We are NOT an ideology but a worldview of truth卐

What the fuck is this retardation. This is like communists saying they aren't an ideology all the time. As if being an ideology is a bad thing somehow.

Brandon Young
Brandon Young

KKK

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Josiah Hill
Josiah Hill

Loudly proclaiming your ideology isn't an ideology is one of the most culty things you can do desu

Cameron Ross
Cameron Ross

Can someone provide me with an English translation? Would very much be appreciated.
germanpropaganda.org/juden-sehen-dich-an/

Joseph Barnes
Joseph Barnes

The Klan was always shit.

somebody who unironically uses the term "fash" does something retarded
Imagine my shock.

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Owen Bell
Owen Bell

Ku Klux Klan, 1st incarnation
Lynch niggers that were raping and pillaging, restore the former political order of white Southerners during Reconstruction
Ku Klux Klan, 2nd incarnation
Oppose the agitation for mass migration in the 1920s, support quota legislation
Ku Klux Klan, 3rd incarnation
Hmmm…fuck niggers? I'm not sure.

I know nothing about the occultic aspects of the KKK as a fraternal order. Jews tend to be involved in fraternal orders. Those are the broad strokes of the KKK as regards their main motives and recruitment.

Jaxson Edwards
Jaxson Edwards

National Socialism is an ideology meant for fat incels who got bullied in school and would label themselves as a "reactionary""

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Robert Martin
Robert Martin

Muuuuh PEE ARRRRRRRRRRRRR
MUHHH BAAAAAAAAAD OPTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICSA
The swastika is a legendary symbol, Chaim, nobody is ditching it

Jace Hall
Jace Hall

Okay, I know these questions have probably been asked a lot, but I have never seen them answered.
Was the Fuhrerprinzip going to be a permanent thing? Or once the war war over, would it have been discontinued?
How will succession of leadership work under national socialism? How was it going to work in NS Germany?

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Dominic Nguyen
Dominic Nguyen

Why are so many sperging out at a good old /nsg/? Have all of the NatSocs migrated to /fascist/index.html or what?

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Jose Bailey
Jose Bailey

Still pumping your dead board run by a strasserite

Brody Kelly
Brody Kelly

Doesn’t look very dead to me, fam

Austin Taylor
Austin Taylor

Tbh I don't care who runs it as long as they're not being an overbearing moderator

Leo Rogers
Leo Rogers

Only three threads have more than 100 posts, one of which is the meta, and the other of which is a stalin dicksucking thread by leftypol.
not dead

Eli Richardson
Eli Richardson

fashwave discord server is back

TDbzW39

Juan Wright
Juan Wright

Does anyone know if IronMarch is coming back, and is there anyone making a similar forum?

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Angel Sanders
Angel Sanders

bumping for useful OP (even if template threads are unfortunate)

Samuel Carter
Samuel Carter

im sure the kikes will fund something similar for you to masturbate over soon enough

Lucas Davis
Lucas Davis

Another false-flag post by JIDF
At least you don't promote pedophilia or terrorism like your other threads.
Let me guess. You will use that (((coincidentally))) posted KKK meme in social media to discredit those evil white supremacists.

Speaking of supremacy:
52% of Israeli Jews agree: African migrants are ‘a cancer’
33% condone anti-migrant violence
timesofisrael.com/most-israeli-jews-agree-africans-are-a-cancer/
My post ruins your narrative you say? Oh no!

Connor Cruz
Connor Cruz

Probably not going to return since Slavros got vanned by the FSB.
Big F.
im sure the kikes will fund something similar for you to masturbate over soon enough
< National Socialist forums are cianigger kikes
Don't you have a kike podcast to masturbate to? /trs/index.html

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Anthony Jones
Anthony Jones

Your gods are to weak to help you in 2018. Even Pol will soon disappear.

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Bentley Bailey
Bentley Bailey

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Daniel Flores
Daniel Flores

Good thread, OP.
No sarcasm.

Judas Watch, TPS and Mr Bond alone are pretty legit.

Samuel Fisher
Samuel Fisher

No, it's finished.

Jackson Reed
Jackson Reed

Everyone should read
Family rituals of SS paganism .pdf
Cant remember the official title, but its a nice little book detailing SS pagan beliefs

Adam Richardson
Adam Richardson

dasfasdf

William Brooks
William Brooks

No. It’s likely not returning. They were infiltrated and raised by Jews. Which is what the primary issue with Fascism is.

James Martin
James Martin

Better than this piece of shit board.

Brandon Russell
Brandon Russell

Luke Garcia
Luke Garcia

Backing down is never good, and I think that's the main problem with these guys on imageboards. They are all anonymous, so they never have to fear having self dignity and pride. You're not proud if you're hiding from yourself and your true feelings.
It's almost impossible to purify chan types due to this, but easy to corrupt them

James Torres
James Torres

These generals are copied and pasted by kikes. I wish they would stop getting attention. If you guys want a NSG, then make a legit one yourselves.

Caleb Walker
Caleb Walker

What's to say they are made by kikes? It's not made by the ass-scratchers, they would've linked to a-certain-site-that-is-named-of-a-book-with-five-letters

Xavier Cox
Xavier Cox

wtf … get the fuck away from me spooky hood man

fucking 3000% degenerate

Nicholas Bailey
Nicholas Bailey

There's evidence they are made by a Zionist Jew, specifically. I don't have the caps saved. Look at the language, the iconography (KKK etc)…these threads are made by a literal hooknose.

Hunter Diaz
Hunter Diaz

What's wrong with the Klan? My great gramps was a Klorero.
It's violent language, pushes away normies. Why should we care about plebs, only useful part of them are the genetic stock of women.

Xavier Bennett
Xavier Bennett

Because no great movement has ever pushed away normies, you fucking commie. Wanna know how I know you're not a National Socialist?

Ryan Bennett
Ryan Bennett

calls me a commie
doesn't even realize that the masses follow whoever is in charge because that is plebian nature
you're a libertarian aren't you? do you think muh nap will save your ass too?

Blake Baker
Blake Baker

How do you suppose any White can gain power without community, money and a plan? You can't just meme your way there because even if you do and people ask you "what now?" what will you do? The only reaction would be continue on but through helping our own.

As far as I am aware we are at 2018 and there is still no one in office, no businesses acquired that employ our own, no organisations that help house, feed and train our own etc. It just larping faggot who harp on about rockwell, and pierce as if anyone gives a fuck anymore. Who are the people TODAY that are actually being effective?

Carter Foster
Carter Foster

Oh /nsg/, save us from the Jewtin-Trumpenstein hellhole.
May r_td be banished.

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Adam Nelson
Adam Nelson

So let's say: white ethnostate, corrected all usury, strong nationalism, a fuhrer.

What if fuhrer goes crazy, is terrible, or successor is shit. How do nationalized companies make poor products because of no competition. How do you control corruption in a government that has so much control in their version of socialism?

Grayson Nelson
Grayson Nelson

Error, I meant what if nationalized companies make poor products due to nationalization (no control)

Michael Jenkins
Michael Jenkins

Indian here, my shithole of a country worked when we kept lower caste to breed less and systematically supplied our better caste with conditions to live, now that ZOG has taken over the lower caste are being fed with gibs whereas higher caste are being sucked dry with taxation.

Meanwhile Muslims are fucking up our gene pool, by marrying our women, the point is there has been a concentrated effort, like some NGO's outside funding Muslims brides to marry off UC hindu girls some shit like they did in Australia.

I am having a hard time comprehending the whole scenario the one who have fallen to Muslim trap are dead because when the ethnostate is set up we can't even distinguish who is who so we have to send them all to middle east, the point of all these is all ethnostate has to help each other setting up one, if you think Jews won't discharge their lower races on us just like they did multiple times in Stalingrad or someplace else?

My point is will we help each other to set up a ethnostate? Like you guys sending us soldiers in war time and vice versa?

Thomas Cook
Thomas Cook

Bump

Jonathan Rivera
Jonathan Rivera

You need to go after that jew infiltrator Hardmouse. Until you purge spergs such as him, Natsoc will never thrive.

Samuel Perry
Samuel Perry

Get rid of the old symbolism, it has been utterly destroyed by the Jews, something new must come from the ashes.
< hehe dont use the ancient religious symbol of your people, goy :^)
/trs/index.html

Carson Flores
Carson Flores

You need to go after that jew infiltrator Hardmouse. Until you purge spergs such as him, Natsoc will never thrive.
hardmaus isn't a jew you fucking faggot
sperg
natsoc
kys alt-kike

Leo Price
Leo Price

Does anyone have that picture where hitler and some other men are visiting a place where they are looking at a fake human body which is see through and you can see the nerves

Adrian Thomas
Adrian Thomas

Seeing the shill (((slide))) threads hit, so it's … RESCUE TIME! #3

Adrian Sanders
Adrian Sanders

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Mason Wood
Mason Wood

All PDFs are for informational purposes only.

Eli Gray
Eli Gray

flood detected

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Lincoln Sanders
Lincoln Sanders

these threads always look so impressive and then go absolutely nowhere. do something cool.
lol

You know this EXACT ————-EXACT post appears in everyone of these threads from here to 4chan. Creepy.

Hitman - A Technical Manual
hmmmm? Want to read, know it's FEDs with trojan. Too bad.

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Jaxson Nguyen
Jaxson Nguyen

Yellow mud
Asians are bad
Japanese are inherently evil
I knew Ironfront was kike controlled opposition, but I didn’t realize they were this retarded.

Sebastian Green
Sebastian Green

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Blake Torres
Blake Torres

Hmm. Well don’t worry it’s honestly only neat at best.

Robert Scott
Robert Scott

ahhh land mines….ahhhh the perfect FED ID bd3888— thanks Jimbo

FEDS posting in NatSoc thread

Can't stand the truth, ayyyy you low IQ subservient cultist zombie scum? How does it feel to be a slave to the JEW WORLD ORDER?

And by Jew I mean Rothschild, not your uncle.

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Noah Foster
Noah Foster

What do you mean? This is all satire.

Dominic Green
Dominic Green

All PDFs are for informational purposes only
informational purposes only

Hey kid, want to read a book?

Caleb Edwards
Caleb Edwards

posting PDFs with a disclaimer is FEDposting

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James Lopez
James Lopez

Another thread by the Jews for the stupid White man.

Matthew Rodriguez
Matthew Rodriguez

White Nationalism is the cause of White Genocide
They have ruined every single attempt by Whites to defend themselves in real life for the last 50 years
Larping for the Jews about Nazis is more important then helping Whites

Samuel Moore
Samuel Moore

Now my FEDFs aren’t going through.
Ragnar Benson. Be smart and safe. I heard about this PDF called the White Survival (or Resistance) Manual. Also Scientific Principles of Advanced Warfare and Home Defense.

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Jaxson Hughes
Jaxson Hughes

if you didn’t stand up for yourselves, loxist envious kikes would leave you alone!
Schlomey please

Bentley Williams
Bentley Williams

Posting Nadsees is Jew posting.

Thomas Gomez
Thomas Gomez

==Duuuhhhhh=

Grayson Hernandez
Grayson Hernandez

Was the KKK even NatSoc?

James Nelson
James Nelson

Inbred Neanderthal-hybrid diseased kikes have been murdering and eating white Christian children long before Adolf Hitler the hero appeared, so let’s “LARP” about that my fellow whites

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Jaxson Jenkins
Jaxson Jenkins

That's a nice list of failed systems. Let's keep trying what failed in the past.

Josiah Cook
Josiah Cook

lose a holy war against the kike controlled jewsa, the jewnited kingdom, the jewssr, and the rest of the shabbos goodgoys
failed system
Schlomey please, you rat faced kid fucking faggot.

Andrew Turner
Andrew Turner

Currently making a PowerPoint on why gays are disgusting and this helps a lot. Thanks user.

Anthony Sanchez
Anthony Sanchez

I'm revising my physical appearance to match my beliefs. I have shaved clean and I want to get a natsoc haircut- is this the only one or are there others? I don't want to be buzzed entirely because I have great hair and I'd just look like some US army grunt or a cop. I'd prefer something where gel/styler isn't a requirement to keep it in place all day.

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Ryder Richardson
Ryder Richardson

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Alexander Lewis
Alexander Lewis

negress cant even redtext
SAD

Lincoln Gomez
Lincoln Gomez

My point is will we help each other to set up a ethnostate? Like you guys sending us soldiers in war time and vice versa?

If poos want an ethnostate to protect their race and culture, then we're all on the same team.

Brandon Barnes
Brandon Barnes

I think every country in the world should be an ethnostate, proud of its own cultural heritage and racial identity. I would still allow temporary travel/tourism, but not permanent immigration unless you went through an extremely strict process and proved your value as a potential member of the society, based on the values of that society. Mixing everything together is the death of culture, and the best you get in the end is little tiny chinatown-esque districts where the stubborn people group together like the entire country should have. If every country maintained their distinct personality and race, the world would be a much more interesting and happy place.

Wyatt Jenkins
Wyatt Jenkins

undercut

Nicholas Cox
Nicholas Cox

It's funny because they peaked in the 20s.
strasser
Deeply concerning.
Mr. Bond said Anglin, Weev, And TRS aren't cucked in the "Cucked" song and at the end of the day peddles niggershit, and is only kind of acceptable because it's a parody.

People preparing for war.
hops IDs to ask the same stupid questions whilst under the notion that we are strasserists
NatSoc=!State Market Socialism or Marxist socialism. Private business was never squished and property was expanded upon. The most vital industries were nationalized and Hitler's government pit large German companies against each other for competition. Companies were told or taught to try and embody the likes of Ford, an American hero and legendary business man. Assuming your ponderings are actually legit, I can answer them to the best of my abilities.

So using Germany then as an example.
Leadership is in the hands of the party and vanguarded by the this little thing you seem to have forgotten or did not study called the SS. They were the best and would become the future leaders (along with those Youths who were educated with NS values and standards) of the German nation. Fanatical patriots with a great understanding of their beliefs. In addition to a relaxed gun regulation which allowed the population to arm itself, and thus be able to defend themselves from Tyranny. Hitler would have, and did choose a successor to replace him but he always espouses to the masses that he was but an ordinary man once. He was a homeless wreck with no family in Austria at one time and became the leader of his entire Nation.

It was Hitler that said anyone with the talent could reach any office in the land. The NSDAP wasn't a secret club, it was something everyone could join.
jewtin
Gas yourself shill.

Gavin Stewart
Gavin Stewart

the black legion was the real deal.

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Alexander Cook
Alexander Cook

I recall reading that it would take three generations of not being closed off to the rest of society to fully undo the effect of North Korean propaganda against it's people. If that's true, it could take three generations to fully undo holohoax, WWII, and anti-colonial propaganda from the public education systems. European countries don't have three generations. They have decades before they risk becoming a minority in their own countries.

The media controlled by kikes will bitch about Italians turning away ships, but those are just distractions. Taking control of your governments is good, but taking in the three generations rule into account, you won't get to live out your fantasies of a race war in just the next few decades.

Even if you can't change political parties of your governments, you can make a push to remove incentives that cause Africans to settle in your homeland in the first place. Remember when Poland took in Christian Africans and they all ran off to Germany because of the lack of a welfare system? These are the conditions you need to replicate to turn things around. Not to live equally as Poland, but to live without any handouts in cash.

You can cite failed experiments in Toronto and other places that gave out free cash to the population. You can cite people taking the money and going back to vacation in the countries they are supposedly fleeing from. These are concrete examples to argue against giving out hard cash.

You can't realistically have your race war, but you can make it a burden for those who seek to take advantage of your welfare system. The EU is an ideal vehicle for pushing such legislature uniformly across Europe. While dismantling the EU is ideal, while it exists you need to try to use it to push a better agenda than (((demographic replacement))). That's not impossible either, especially when you can use countries like Italy, Austria, and Poland to push these measures. Aim for realistic, achievable goals Zig Forums.

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Elijah Cruz
Elijah Cruz

Hitler talked about appointing a new leader or just leaving it up to a vote, either way he wanted to retire after the war and live with Eva. If the former method had been chosen, I imagine it would have been similar to the Roman Empire where each emperor appoints their successor (best suited for the job).

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Connor Myers
Connor Myers

Why would you even say this unless . . .

You dont understand. The 'stigma' associated with our symbols is GOOD.
Q: What do most white people want when being left alone by non whites to consume is no longer an option?
A: A disciplined, ruthless, violently racist army of uniformed white men that will fight to the death for them.
Sound familiar? The kike has spent the last 67-70 years creating that exact stereotype in film after film, show after show, in schools etc… The Disciplined National Socialist isnt the only form of Nazi they push but its in there and its far more ruthless and uncompromising than the actual National Socialists of the second world war as fine as they were.
Even better, the jew has then inadvertently created the perfect storm for the rebirth of National Socialism. (turns out that filling someone’s country with racial aliens that rape our children makes us a bit Nationalistic and racist, lol)
But you want to turn your back on all that ready made propaganda?
Many of our people will be reluctant to admit their desire for disciplined, uniformed Nazis but in their hearts they want it.
All we need to do is live up to it.

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Jaxson Hernandez
Jaxson Hernandez

Fry the brain

Liam Brooks
Liam Brooks

Anyone have the template for the cuckchan natsoc threads? I remember one time one 9f them came over and posted that, it included a bunch of fascist songs for nearly every European country including Poland (which I would like to know the name of in particular)
If anyone has it I urge you to post. :)

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Nolan Collins
Nolan Collins

Again fuck off you aren't convincing anybody kike. Nice tactics you use every time there is a /nsg/ in half chan as well.

Luke Lee
Luke Lee

You mean /3rdpol/?

Robert Carter
Robert Carter

why did our parents not believe our grandparents but took the position of the government instead?
my idea is that it is because most people believe what the strongest entity tells them to believe. women more than men but in general both men, women, inter, divers and open genders.

Jace Foster
Jace Foster

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Blake Bell
Blake Bell

The leftwards spinning swastika signifies the return to Hyperborea and with that the reestablishment of our glory and god-people. It is the holiest symbol and part of the black sun.

this might be a shill post but I'll bite

You're right, in the circles I've looked to find NS guys I've come across a lot of bi or homosexuality. My friends and I were almost despairing for a few months as we did not seem to be able to find normal healthy men that shared our opinions.

Our behavior in public is easy to explain: we don't care to put in the effort to cuck to the narrative. You can only entertain so much dissonance and its burdensome to constantly have to water down something like "I want a White country at all costs necessary" into "maybe Whites should voluntarily dissociate to live in their own communities". You live your thoughts, keep that in mind.

lol kill yourself

National Socialism is more than just a party phenomenon or an ideology, it is a complete worldview and you are low IQ if you don't grasp that.

Read Mein Kampf nigger.

The Führerprinzip refers to a method of organizing hierarchies. Hitler wanted to resign from office after WW2. What would have followed may have been appointed succession or a senate-analog for electing dictators in times of crisis.

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Jeremiah Fisher
Jeremiah Fisher

Guys… Atomwaffen Division's channel was shoah'd by bitchute. Do they have some other platform?

Nathaniel Hall
Nathaniel Hall

Didnt they kill some frog because he was catholic? That is pretty unbased.
Thoughful post, but unless the entire EU makes it more difficult to get gibs, they will flock to the ones that do, thus increasing the demograpic strain on those countries greatly.

Alexander Miller
Alexander Miller

Seconding (you). I don't have an answer but I'm wondering; has d.tube ever censored anyone? I want to make videos.

Jason Allen
Jason Allen

d.tube? Never heard of it. Probably will delete you, there's nothing preventing them.

Asher Walker
Asher Walker

How do I 卐NSG卐 when I'm a Pole? friendly reminder that Poland is EVROPA too ;_;

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Josiah Jones
Josiah Jones

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unchecked for posting (((rabbi jesus)))

Jose Lewis
Jose Lewis

Thread for discussion of Traditionalism
Explain.
If any of you truly are supporting Traditionalism, like the rest of the movement in that sentence, then you ought to push for monarchy and natural hierarchy and be against anything supporting Equality and Enlightenment™, inclusing German National Socialist-style government that evidently support equality in civil matters.

Chase Watson
Chase Watson

step 1:
stop believing the jewish propaganda myth that Hitler wanted to "exterminate" Poland.

step 2:
understand that Poland made a horrible mistake harboring jews for centuries and that you probably should've done something to save us all a lot of grief

step 3:
study gas chamber design because I feel like some railway lines into some forests in Poland might be put back into service relatively soon

that evidently support equality in civil matters

Nice b8, I will bite. What civil matters are we talking?

Zachary Rogers
Zachary Rogers

step 3:
study gas chamber design because I feel like some railway lines into some forests in Poland might be put back into service relatively soon
b-but I'm not a jew! ;_;

Zachary Nelson
Zachary Nelson

I'm telling you to build them not gas yourself

Adrian Myers
Adrian Myers

HEIL HITLER!

Matthew Evans
Matthew Evans

Oh…

Eli Thompson
Eli Thompson

Jesus Christ was "The Man From Galilee" a "True Israelite", not a filthy fucking pharisee kike. Just a friendly reminder for those who forget that kikes usurped Israel and pretended to be anything other than Khazarian faggot fakers.

Carter Morgan
Carter Morgan

this, also kikes hate him and vice versa

Evan Howard
Evan Howard

Be careful, you might trigger Smileys Pagan cringe army

Tyler Jones
Tyler Jones

believing the khazar theory
no nigger, that's also bullshit pushed by jews

Eli Collins
Eli Collins

khazar theory
kek

go read Nietzsche on the subject

Juan Gutierrez
Juan Gutierrez

Nice b8, I will bite. What civil matters are we talking?

Caste.
There were no vertical stratification of civilians in NatSoc Germany. They were only classified based on racial purity and wealth (hence Class Cooperation), not ability and lineage.
b-but muh Meritocracy
It won't work as much as anyone wanted since IQ and moral character are mostly heritable. That is one reason why caste existed in ancient societies, since isolating people with similar biological and mental qualities will help them to do better.

Elijah Morris
Elijah Morris

NS isnt particularly 'Traditionalist'. Its about Natural Law applied to ourselves essentially. As for inheritance Vs Merit: Why would these clash in any way?

Nathan Parker
Nathan Parker

NS isnt particularly 'Traditionalist'.
Yes, that is the point. See .
Why did OP pretend to favor a system that contradicts his system?
Why did OP invite people that are inherently against his position in this thread?
He is summoning the wrong kind of folk and is misleading people.
I don't see any posters actually stand in favor of Traditionalism within this thread, so I suggest to erase the word "Traditionalism" from OP in the next general.

As for inheritance Vs Merit: Why would these clash in any way?
Good question. Let's get it straight first, the problem at hand is not "Merit", but "Meritocracy".
Meritocracy requires a standardized system of formal examinations that only test the participants' ability to answer questions and participate in competitions, both of which are:
a. Resource-exhaustive (Everyone has to participate and the state shall provide the means to)
b. Promotes equality (Everyone has an equal chance to participate!)
c. Encourages participants to cheat (All's fair in love and war, right?)
d. Does not encourage participants to test themselves in solving real-life situations
e. The most important reason of all, it can never succeed in judging moral character of anyone participating.
The only benefit I can think of Meritocracy is that it creates lots of scholars, however beneficial they are.

Meanwhile, in the beginnings of ancient Traditionalist societies like India, people are just left to contribute however they could to society. Naturally each person will flock to other people with similar abilities, moral character and prestige, making in-groups within a whole society. These in-groups are then solidified into their own caste with the help of the monarchy, promoting endogamy (since IQ, moral character and physical fitness are mostly heritable) which helps in specialisation and eventually natural evolution of each groups in undertaking certain specific set of tasks.
E.g.
Creative people get to marry each other and are grouped into the Vaisha class, creating more creative offsprings to produce technological innovation and trade.
The brave, honest and shrewd people marry each other in Brahmana class, creating more knight-like offsprings to create physically fit soldiers loyal to the monarch.
In contrast to Meritocracy, this method takes quite a lot of time to produce scholars, but it'll create ones of higher biological and moral qualities.
In case that you don't know it yet, a Traditionalist prefers quality over quantity any day.

Kevin Perez
Kevin Perez

I've been really fat before learning the truth. Becoming NatSoc was my biggest motivation to start lifting.

Hunter King
Hunter King

Good question. Let's get it straight first, the problem at hand is not "Merit", but "Meritocracy".

Meritocracy requires a standardized system of formal examinations that only test the participants' ability to answer questions and participate in competitions, both of which are:

Not necessarily, it can be done in a more informal way, at least at first. I.e: This guy did well at this task or has generally good qualities. In other words, selecting the 'tall wheat' over time without bothering too much about the details should result in merit rising to the top. Assuming a basically objective evaluation over all. Measures must be taken to prevent interference with honest evaluation (corruption) but thats not insurmountable.

a. Resource-exhaustive (Everyone has to participate and the state shall provide the means to)

Not really exhaustive. If the state cant manage to do this well enough its failed its own merit test.

b. Promotes equality (Everyone has an equal chance to participate!)

Objective evaluation is not equal and should not be confused with that. Different qualities + objective evaluation = Hierarchy based on merit/meritocracy.

c. Encourages participants to cheat (All's fair in love and war, right?)

Not really. What is the evaluation of? If its evaluation of the ability to 'think outside the box' lol, then such behaviour cannot be described as cheating. If the person is circumventing the evaluation itself then he's harming society and screwing the whole process over to everyone’s detriment, which is not ok and cannot be tolerated. It breaks objective evaluation unless the ability to cheat/unconventional thinking is the thing being evaluated.

d. Does not encourage participants to test themselves in solving real-life situations

Real world observation of people under stress or just doing the job is common. eg: Say your a manager in a factory or an NCO in the military, you can see the good ones and bad. You SHOULD be able to evaluate honestly. The good ones are given the opportunity for promotion with extra pay, authority and accountability. If they accept they must then actually deliver. Call it 'practical meritocracy'?

e. The most important reason of all, it can never succeed in judging moral character of anyone participating.

Personal evaluation is a fairly good guide to character, especially under stress/crisis. Formal evaluation in an exam room may not be the best at this, although they try with psychometric testing. Its a personal thing and in any case 'moral character' for most people is just socialisation, sadly.

The only benefit I can think of Meritocracy is that it creates lots of scholars, however beneficial they are.

Its doesnt have to be a mandarin style exam system. A Nation that embraces meritocracy as a societal norm, takes it as a moral good and applies it in their own lives is possible. And if its not then there was never any hope.

Meanwhile, in the beginnings of ancient Traditionalist societies like India, people are just left to contribute however they could to society. Naturally each person will flock to other people with similar abilities, moral character and prestige, making in-groups within a whole society. These in-groups are then solidified into their own caste with the help of the monarchy, promoting endogamy (since IQ, moral character and physical fitness are mostly heritable) which helps in specialisation and eventually natural evolution of each groups in undertaking certain specific set of tasks.

My understanding of the Hindu caste system is not exactly great. But i have heard that it was partially based on a desire to preserve the Aryan conquerors as a ruling class with gradations of the different mixtures below them but that system eventually failed due to gradual further miscegenation?
A stratified society isnt that rare and i suppose is fairly natural. One of the eventual results of that seems to be the weakness of inbreeding because the numbers of aristocrats is naturally a lot smaller than the population and they want to give their children the best opportunities they can. The royal houses and noble families of Europe for instance, they became stagnant and jealous 'elites' hoarding power without merit that was a shadow of its former dynamic beginnings. A certain amount of social mobility based on merit seems to be required to keep the blood of a people 'active'. A man should always be capable of reaching his limits and striving for greater or higher things. If they cant succeed then so be it, but a Nation that ignores merit and rejects meritocracy will fail through inherited power and the assumption, rather than the proven fact, of worth.

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Kevin Cooper
Kevin Cooper

Understandable considering the cesspit of depravity and nihilism we were surrounded by and taught to accept as normal.
Keep up the good work, user.
Pic sort of related.

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Carson Reed
Carson Reed

Ctd.

Merit isnt just elevation its also a lowering process. The Aristocrats children can only maintain their status via proven merit, not just because their dad was a boss. Over time this WILL probably result in some stratification but only as long as they KEEP EARNING IT. No free pass for the runts.

Angel Hughes
Angel Hughes

Caste.
There were no vertical stratification of civilians in NatSoc Germany.

You're splitting hairs. 13 years is half the time for one generation (25 years).

It won't work as much as anyone wanted since IQ and moral character are mostly heritable.

hmmmm….so if I'm like a good SS officer and have kids with a woman from a smart family, and my son makes a good SS officer too…it's almost like….hmmmmmmmm

HMMMMMMM

meritocracy is the stepping stone to biological isolation, google "assortative mating"

only test the participants' ability to answer questions and participate in competitions
This has the air of an IQ-denier.

a. Resource-exhaustive (Everyone has to participate and the state shall provide the means to)
I mean clearly it didn't cripple Germany. You also weren't forced to participate, after your state mandated education you could go live as an illiterate farmer if you wanted to.

b. Promotes equality (Everyone has an equal chance to participate!)
equality of opportunity != equality of outcome

c. Encourages participants to cheat (All's fair in love and war, right?)
bullshit claim, especially in Hitler's Germany. Hitler (and any NS thinking like he did) fucking hated bureaucrats, officials, and government workers. You're seriously arguing that the guy that hated state bureaucracy the most would allow a new one to be formed under him. Just look at the fact that he gassed democracy after correctly criticizing it for its inability to get anything done.

d. Does not encourage participants to test themselves in solving real-life situations
NS and SS testing was much closer to real life than trigonometry is today.

e. The most important reason of all, it can never succeed in judging moral character of anyone participating.
Total bullshit claim, moral judgements on character were necessary when applying to the advanced welfare programs (like the Mother's Cross that resulted from the loans meant to promote births). Just don't be a jew, but I have a suspicion you are.

this method takes quite a lot of time to produce scholars
Both methods take a lot of time.

it'll create ones of higher biological and moral qualities.
that's why India is brown despite having started off with a White ruling caste

Your entire position is based around assortative mating not existing in Germany. You are wrong in that assumption.

a. correct
b. correct
c. correct
d. correct
e. correct, also keep in mind that "participation" grade in school, which is a loose judgement of character

(just see my points above as additions to yours).

A stratified society isnt that rare and i suppose is fairly natural.
I don't want to ad personem him too much, but I suspect that he's a nigger or a jew self-aware of his uncompetitiveness in an NS style system so he's shilling for a different one where his pseudointellectuality (a characteristic of muh India traditionalist types) would unfairly earn him a spot in the higher caste. He is scared of work, otherwise meritocracy wouldn't be nearly as much of a thorn in his eye.

I will refer to a German word for people like him, "dampfplauderer", it is he who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. National Socialism is about embracing responsibility and your own merit (or lack thereof) and being sober about how shit you actually are. It is far more ascetic than you claim to be .

William Brown
William Brown

Cheers.
Could be a pajeet. The Hindu traditionalist thing that lingers around NS always surprises me. But then i have never read Savitri Devi.

Cameron Martinez
Cameron Martinez

Jesus Christ was "The Man From Galilee" a "True Israelite", not a filthy fucking pharisee kike. Just a friendly reminder for those who forget that kikes usurped Israel and pretended to be anything other than Khazarian faggot fakers.
No one gives a shit about your semite on a stick religion, your god is a volcano demon that eats baby cocks. KYS.

Luis Thomas
Luis Thomas

M-Muh Smiley

Chase Hernandez
Chase Hernandez

I've looked into Devi and Serrano, neither of them would cuck to the brownies because they held Hitler and his racial order in higher regard than their spiritual forays into Hinduism and the Vedas.

Andrew Morales
Andrew Morales

kek

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Luke White
Luke White

See, I said that none of you were in favor of Traditionalism, and it was right. As soon as I point out that it will go against NatSoc, you people go in droves in defense of the latter. Just replace that word from OP with Esoteric Hitlerism just like you people imply . If it weren't for OP I wouldn't be here expecting to meet fellow Traditionalists otherwise.

You SHOULD be able to evaluate honestly. The good ones are given the opportunity for promotion with extra pay, authority and accountability. If they accept they must then actually deliver. Call it 'practical meritocracy'?
Not really. What is the evaluation of?
In other words, selecting the 'tall wheat' over time without bothering too much about the details should result in merit rising to the top. Assuming a basically objective evaluation over all. Measures must be taken to prevent interference with honest evaluation (corruption) but thats not insurmountable.
Not really exhaustive. If the state cant manage to do this well enough its failed its own merit test.

Not a reliable idea because then Hitler happened. You have a Painter and an Orator who dictated that Germany must conquer at least 70% of Europe, even with the massive failure Operation Barbarossa had become. And then he had his own military officers trying to assassinate him.
Plus we also had Tesla, where his superior, Edison kept him down due to his lack of understanding on his talent, also the fact that Tesla did not wish to pursue pure profit, obviously going against Edison.
Especially in the realm of leadership, you shouldn't expect that to work until you have the absolutely best person in the job, since then some people end up applying idiosyncratic or even silly evaluation standards.
Hence Meritocracy is flawed, since it demands obedience to authority and human standards even though talent does not require both. The real world, (e.g. achievements everyone can witness) should be the judge, not just a bunch of managers.

Personal evaluation is a fairly good guide to character, especially under stress/crisis. Formal evaluation in an exam room may not be the best at this, although they try with psychometric testing.
Wishful thinking. We can't even get lie detectors to work reliably. What prevents the participants from lying?

Its doesnt have to be a mandarin style exam system.
But it has always been in history. No one seem to have set a precedent for your ideas yet.

Its a personal thing and in any case 'moral character' for most people is just socialisation, sadly.
So personality qualities like "honesty", "chivalry", "continuous desire to improve oneself", "willingness to self-sacrifice", "aversion to perversion" are only useful in social events, not for the individuals and the whole country?

The royal houses and noble families of Europe for instance, they became stagnant and jealous 'elites' hoarding power without merit that was a shadow of its former dynamic beginnings. A certain amount of social mobility based on merit seems to be required to keep the blood of a people 'active'. A man should always be capable of reaching his limits and striving for greater or higher things.
Good point. Even previous Traditionalist societies can only try to address this problem through caste system. I think that people become complacent as soon as they become wealthy e.g. Empires with their newfound trade routes like Great Britain and the Ottoman. The only solution I can think of is to force them to give up a big portion of their money into funding national projects like infrastructure building and scientific researches, both of which are handled by their required castes.

Nathan Davis
Nathan Davis

See pic.
Oh wow.

I mean clearly it didn't cripple Germany. You also weren't forced to participate, after your state mandated education you could go live as an illiterate farmer if you wanted to.
Why force people who wanted to become illiterate farmer into state-mandated education (I assume it's something close to K-12) in the first place anyway? Many kinds of people especially ones belonging to the worker class don't need it.
It's still a waste of resources, especially for a country that had to fight a world war using army with sub-standard equipment. Why didn't anyone use that education money for earlier weapon research anyway?
Someone should post that image about NatSoc Germany soldiers being under-equipped but were /fit/ enough to scare off the (((Allied))) soldiers.

equality of opportunity != equality of outcome
It is still equality. Forcing geniuses and trained monkeys to compete in a uniform testing standard still is a form of equality.

bullshit claim, especially in Hitler's Germany. Hitler (and any NS thinking like he did) fucking hated bureaucrats, officials, and government workers. You're seriously arguing that the guy that hated state bureaucracy the most would allow a new one to be formed under him.
How is this relevant? And NatSoc Germany still had bureaucracy, like the ministries in the NatSoc Germany for example.

NS and SS testing was much closer to real life than trigonometry is today.
It seemed still different from the real world, see my rebuttal above.

Total bullshit claim, moral judgements on character were necessary when applying to the advanced welfare programs
How is this relevant to meritocracy? It's a system designed to seek out talents, not people who are worthy in receiving welfare assistance from a state. Also you should know that Traditionalist societies refrained from using that state-welfare system.

that's why India is brown despite having started off with a White ruling caste
Irrelevant.
That's more of a problem in diversity, and everyone here should know that.
The Dravidians outnumbered the Aryans in both population number and proliferation rate, the overthrow of the latter was just a matter of time. Kings and warriors can't have any rhetorical power against people who does not share the same blood with them.

All those ad "personem"
I'll have you know that I've been teaching kids English and Arithmetic for money since I was 14 years old. It started as a short part-time job, an hour a day and after a few years I got a full time job teaching in a high school, albeit informally. I'm satisfied with my current position. The only benefits I'd like to have from the caste system is that I can have career stability and I get to seek a woman with similar inclinations to teaching like me (female kindergarten teacher personally sounds good). I still don't know where do teachers fall into which Indian caste, though, but getting into a higher caste than my career mandates of me will certainly put too much burden mentally to me. I suck at leadership, and it hurts me to lead too many people (I hate the very thought that some people talk behind my back concerning my leadership, back when I had to lead some people. Why wouldn't they just speak up? But then, I and they are Asians).
Also I'm not a pajeet, I was born further east from India and I have aboriginal Taiwanese ancestry.
You don't have the justification to call me a "dampfplauderer"/motormouth(?), but I can certainly call you delusional for thinking that you have the ability to correctly assess the personality of an anonymous person through an imageboard that represses individuality and personal identity.

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Gavin Morales
Gavin Morales

(I assume it's something close to K-12)
In Germany and Austria it is more like 1st to 8th grade, sometimes even just 6th grade if you do an apprenticeship afterwards.

Many kinds of people especially ones belonging to the worker class don't need it.
I share that sentiment to some extent, but look we are a technological society now where reading and writing in some capacity is necessary to even stay alive, so it will have to be taught.

It's still a waste of resources
No. The Maus was a bigger waste of resources in one go than state education.

using army with sub-standard equipment
lol

Why didn't anyone use that education money for earlier weapon research anyway?
…because education doesn't actually cost as much as you think it does. I think it only costs the Austrian government 2 bn € annually to educate the 1.1 million students we have (K-12). There are way juicier expenditures that could be gutted for arms research in our case, and in Germany's case. Besides, the depression hit everyone at the same time anyway, so the slowdown was global.

It is still equality.
This is autistic hair splitting.

compete in a uniform testing standard
And the genius' total domination in that test proves that the system is working as intended. I wouldn't mind a more feudal society where going to school doesn't exist as a "right" (lol), but really that's even less realistic than the race war in the US or the coming holocaust.

And NatSoc Germany still had bureaucracy, like the ministries in the NatSoc Germany for example.
And they worked pretty effectively don't you think? Hitler or a Reichsgauleiter gave an order and it fucking happened, as opposed to all the faffing that happens in a modern bureaucracy. You must understand that I am caricaturing modern bureaucracies for the inefficient, slow, cumbersome, and personal-politics dominated space and that I despise this. Hitler didn't tolerate any of that bullshit.

It's a system designed to seek out talents, not people who are worthy in receiving welfare assistance from a state.
Think about it for a moment. National Socialism seeks to subsidize the talented. Use those brain cells.

Kings and warriors can't have any rhetorical power against people who does not share the same blood with them.
Then commit genocide and quit faffing around.

the spoilered part
You have vindicated the majority of my claims.

call you delusional for thinking that you have the ability to correctly assess the personality of an anonymous person through an imageboard
…and yet I was able to correctly ascertain, based on your admission unless you are lying, that you aren't White and are trying to stop an implementation that you are scared will disadvantage you too much. I admire your humility though, that's probably not something I would've done. But then again I am a pompous European with grand designs.

Nathan Morris
Nathan Morris

There were many reasons for the failures of the second world war, few were Hitler’s. He was a good boy.

What prevents the participants from lying?

Results. Authority+accountability. They have to deliver.

Meritocracy is an approach to life. Nothing wrong with exams in their place but its more about work ethic, approach to doing things and how we approach each other.

So personality qualities like etc…

I just mean that most people go where the prevailing viewpoint leads them. This is disappointing but that’s just the way it is unfortunately. The fine qualities mentioned need to be encouraged in a Nation for them to become the norm for many.

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Gabriel Sanders
Gabriel Sanders

And the genius' total domination in that test proves that the system is working as intended.
That's not necessarily the case since there's no stopping the monkeys to have the same score with the geniuses, just look at gaokao in China.
Once you have these monkeys in managerial positions, you'll have another Tesla v. Edison style-feuds again, where some people hate having their authority and excellence being challenged, even if it was done for a greater good. Even if that wasn't the case, the monkeys cannot understand the extent of the abilities of the geniuses. Combine this with the unreliability of formalized personality assessments, which enables dishonesty and you'll end up with modern bureaucracy you despise so badly.
I hate being repetitive, see my previous rebuttal.

This is autistic hair splitting
You must understand that I am caricaturing modern bureaucracies
All I see is that you're stretching definitions of words to fit your narrative.

National Socialism seeks to subsidize the talented.
If that happened then there's little reason for the talented to not be complacent, corroding the very spirit of hierarchy that NatSoc seem to pursue, according to your assertions.
Again, see my post above.

You have vindicated the majority of my claims.
How? You claimed that I was
nigger or a jew
Kek.
self-aware of his uncompetitiveness in an NS style system
You seem to think that NS-style system has ever existed in Asia, or at least my country of origin, but it hasn't. You can't argue that I am afraid to compete in a system that I've never personally experienced. NatSoc isn't just about meritocracy, correct?
pseudointellectuality
I don't understand what do you mean by this, and I wouldn't bother since you'll stretch the definition again.
My arguments are made mostly from history and personal observation.
Even the part where I talked about Indian caste system, it has been practiced in my domain, and it's still practiced in a particular region of country neighboring the one I've lived in.
He is scared of work
Kek. What, you don't count teaching as a profession?
meritocracy wouldn't be nearly as much of a thorn in his eye.
See my arguments again. Also, as a teacher, I know first hand that people cheat in exams, my students did.
Also it was frustrating seeing that the common kids have little score gaps compared to the smarter ones in formal exams, yet the former fail to have any real-life achievements, unlike the latter who hoard them. Like in an English exam, where an unmotivated kid earned 90 and a regular English debater earned 92, it was vexing.
Yet none of them were correct.

Then…

that you aren't White
Damage control detected. But for the sake of truth, I'll consider this acceptable.

trying to stop an implementation that you are scared will disadvantage you too much
Alright, true, but not in the way you thought.
Again, it's not meritocracy or the NS-style system that threatens me the most, but nepotism. It's rampant in where I live (Remember, Asia) and its practice is considered an essential part of the culture. I don't have any connection to sociable, strong people because I am a natural taciturn (hey, where do you think we are?), and some people wanted to replace me even if they seem suck and have nothing better to offer than social relationships and amicable etiquettes. Couple that with meritocracy where some people are free to skew evaluation processes, then I'll be damned, because if someone really wanted to put me out of office, then they'll just send a report smearing my name to a bureaucrat. In a caste system, we won't have bureaucracy. Plus, even if nepotism still happens, I still can rest assured that the people replacing me is good enough to do so.

few were Hitler’s. He was a good boy.
But those were fatal. He being a kind and good person still does not remove his leadership responsibility from preventing the country he led from being destroyed.

—–
I had enough of this little bickering.

I say it again, for the fourth time.
This general do not seem to welcome people who are in favor of Traditionalism.
Traditionalism, which favors time-tested methods inherently clashes with NatSoc and its supporters that want to try out new methods.
Regardless of how well both approaches work in real life, they are incompatible and as such, should not be grouped under a general.

Hence, I beg for the OP and anyone close to him to erase the word "Traditionalism" or replace it with "Esoteric Hitlerism" in the next thread opening post.
Also I suggest for other fellow Traditionalists who have lurked in this thread to visit /trad/index.html or /monarchy/index.html instead of coming here.

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Camden Murphy
Camden Murphy

Only fat and ugly people who have nothing/not much to lose would reveal themselves publicly as NatSocs.

Lincoln Gonzalez
Lincoln Gonzalez

Thread for discussion of National Socialism
Thread for
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The fucking audacity.
What fucking board do you think you're on?

Hudson Morgan
Hudson Morgan

is their power level increasing?

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Jaxon Richardson
Jaxon Richardson

That's not necessarily the case
…then the system isn't working as intended.

I hate being repetitive, see my previous rebuttal.
You aren't really conjuring up anything new. The pragmatic approach is to simply accept that something like Tesla v. Edison will happen in any hierarchical system, and the onus is on you to describe to me why an Indian caste like system would not suffer from similar standstills, especially if we assume both inventors to have come from the same caste. Who's really got the authority then? Despite caste, men will still differ in charm and that's ultimately what makes a leader.

All I see is that you're stretching definitions of words to fit your narrative.
Suit yourself.

If that happened
Maybe 13 years, as I have pointed out before being half the length of a generation, is not enough time for this system to come to fruition. The Vedic caste system enjoys a thousand year old record.

then there's little reason for the talented to not be complacent
..and they weren't. Here in Europe, in the old White spirit, there was nothing as revered as a scholarship to a big name university. That alone should drive you to excellence in addition to the talent that has earned you the honor to begin with. Don't mistake the modern bureaucracy where people are seemingly selected for their incompetence and latency for what Europe used to do when education was private.

You claimed that I was
You're non-white and that makes you less than number one.

has ever existed
We are talking about hypotheticals and you're trying to edge out a spot for yourself in that hypothetical. You're just like those "based jews" trying to prevent their impending gassing. Frame Game on youtube is the archetype of this behavior.

pseudointellectuality
In Europe and in right wing spaces in general motormouths tend to appeal to muh Indian caste system.

I know first hand that people cheat in exams, my students did.
Cheating varies by race obviously.

Also it was frustrating seeing that the common kids have little score gaps compared to the smarter ones in formal exams
Review my statement about "total domination". Clearly your tests are shit at sorting wheat from chaff if everyone is earning a participation grade. Increase the gradient. Make people fail. That's how its supposed to work anyway.

It's rampant in where I live (Remember, Asia) and its practice is considered an essential part of the culture.
I know that you're arguing from a very personally instead of abstractly informed position. Nepotism of the kind you're describing is foreign to morally intact Whites and essentially jewish. That kind of nepotism characterizes the modern bureaucracy (and the one of the Weimar Republic or Prussia before it). No system is proof to bureaucracy because some group of people have to be signing the decrees and putting them into effect. Hitler himself at least seemed to have had a skill for picking out deputies that were in turn skilled at getting rid of motormouths. This is one advantage of a local aristocracy/monarch, his name is known and so are his deputies, rather than being hidden behind some obscure department name and number with a support hotline manned by uninterested 25 year olds.

I feel that we have similar opinions of bureaucracy and a generally similar critique of the egalitarian approach taken today. You have yet to tell me why vertical stratification is inherently proof to bureaucracy, it just seems to me that the faffing is more flagrant instead of removed.

taciturn
I think some of us are quite noisy