I am getting deeper every day into Norse religion and am looking into the magic. However, I can't seem to find some of the answers I am looking for. Does anyone know or can anyone recommend where I can find the meanings of the 18 songs/runes/spells that Odin talks about in the Havamal? I can find the first 16, but why aren't there 17? Odin states that He won't disclose the meaning of the 18th one to anyone but His wife or sister, but as far as I can tell, there are only 16 total runes in the Younger Futhark system.
I have found this website to be phenomenal in the quest for rune magic if anyone is interested: realrunemagick.blogspot.com/
This thread probably won't get deleted thanks to the change in moderation
But don't expect nu/pol/ to offer much in the way of discussion
Most people here while I deem them brothers to some extent, are external Christians for no real reason pther than being raised as such.
And because they are so insecure about their religiosity they atttack all pro-white religions.
Logan Gutierrez
This isn't the place for this, plain and simple. With that said, the fundamentals of Odinism are still alive, but the specifics are cloudy at best due to the Christianization of our people and their older religions. Every Odinist and real pagan has to deal with the fact that parts are lost to history and incorrect information is all too common. As someone who practices a lot.of the values found by our forefathers, that is all you can do in reality. I honestly don't believe in magic, but even if I did you aren't going to find the answer because of the reasons I stated below. Good luck in your endeavors though. I have never really looked too much there, but maybe you can look at information contained in Asatru religious areas and possibly find more. But let me reiterate, Zig Forums isn't the place for this and never will be.
Jordan Robinson
then youre full of shit, how can you know that there is incorrect information, or how much of it is incorrect or lost if you havent read any of it? I smell a Zig Forums shill
Isaac Wood
paganism is the bernie sanders of european religion. Serve Christ faggot. I don't want to have to tie you to a stake and set you alight some day
Carter Sanchez
I wish I was deluded and stupid enough to just be able to say things and think theyre true because I said them, exactly what the fuck does this even mean? the bernie sanders of religion? Your religion literally states there is no difference between Jews and Gentiles and that we should all get along because violence is mean. my religion states that all shitskins must be purged because they offend the Gods, and that blond haired and blue eyed people are their favorite children. You must be fucking retarded to think Christianity is more right wing than Paganism, when it is nothing but a spiritual degradation opposed to traditionalist cultures.
I am not too sure about it but I think Odin is kind of a greedy bastard, too. The mead of poetry, for example, it was only accidental that mankind got a taste of it since he stole it from a giant after fucking his daughter and letting her deal with the fallout (although he did name himself "evildoer" while shagging her bölverkr, bale worker) He turned himself into an eagle and fled and while being chased some of the mead spilled out of his mouth, this gave mankind the gift of poetry, too, and some came out of the other end, which gave mankind the ability to shitpost (no, really, theres a nordic word for that that relates to this event).
But yeah it's very likely that the spells are left to the practitioners, after all, the Eddahs are more or less prose indeed, they don't contain many scriptural instructions since the people living in the lands were doing their things and therefore didn't need writing down.
Someone who knows better can probably help you more, though.
Gavin Myers
Nobody in Europe serves Christ, not even Christian Crusaders. Europe is as truly Christian as Warhammer 40k Humans are truly Christian.
But I don't blame people to think otherwise, evn actual Europeans since it's so ubiquitous that it's almost not visible anymore. But strictly speaking, if you're Christian and doing something not in the scripture then that's not truly Christian. And there's so many things people do every day that is more heathen than anything else that you would be left with pretty much nothing if it all went away. Trees on graveyards. Graveyards with memorials. People named after dead relatives and people of significance. To quickly gloss over this aspect alone, not to mention the literal gazillion of customs and beliefs that the makebelief, copypasta faith from the desert missed to "missionarize" (makebelieve) and appropriate and paint over.
