Start Arguing that Racism is not Real

Logan Barnes
Logan Barnes

Racism isn’t real because race IS real.
In other words, the differences between races is caused by differences OF races, like values and IQ. Not ignorance, fear, hatred, bias, etc. There is no immorality involved with in-group racial preference because in-group preference is an essential feature of any group.

But isn’t there still racism?
No. It’s a delusion. A conspiracy theory.
The racism myth is only true if racial differences are irrelevant or myths. Because race is real racism is not.
Racism is NOT discrimination plus power. What they call discrimination is just in-group preference necessary for the continuation of a people. When Progressives say ‘discrimination plus power’ they’re just talking about the interests of a majority vs a minority. Like all racism conspiracies there is no need to bring race into the equation. Minority and majority groups vie and negotiate.
Let’s compare racism and sexism mythologies to ageism; the hate crime society will never recognize as a hate crime because unlike race and gender; people accept the differences in nature distributed by age but make up conspiracy theories about differences created by nature between gender and race. There is no white male to blame and shakedown for aging.
Just like envy between races and gender roles, people have envy for things one can do if only they were older or younger. Similarly to how races envy aspects of other races. Hispanics want wealth. Whites want a higher birthrate. Just like not respecting realities of age difference, not respecting race difference will cause exploitation and destruction.
We discriminate based on age and we should based on race.
A 70 year old typically doesn’t date a 16 year old because it’s a bad deal for the 16 year old. In the same way, it’s a bad deal for white Americans to allow Somalians into their communities because it’s destructive to the white Americans.

We accept the benefits some get from age and we accept the limits ourselves or others get by age.
It would be cruel to tell a nursing home full of people society was keeping them down, making them age because the young hated them. Not likely to happen, though we do allow the slightly lower IQ races be convinced they have their lot in life because they’ve been victimized by a conspiracy by people who hate them. Then we go to the smarter and blame them for this conspiracy, taking a pound of flesh.
It would be destructive to businesses to force them to hire x amount of 10 year olds to executive positions in the same way it would be destructive to force them to hire brown people with lower IQs who value money and status above doing a good job. We accept the self evident limits of the 10 year old’s mind and value system but we make up conspiracy theories about the limits of the brown person because Whites have been taught to feel guilty about their innate and cultural abilities and to buy into the racism conspiracy theory.

But muh Civil Rights Movement! Slavery!
Slavery was nothing unique to White America and Africans. North America was a tiny part of world slavery at the time and America fought a war and built the machines that did away with slave labor.
As for Civil Rights, blacks are much worse off now. Much less land ownership, two parent households. Much more crime, drugs, obesity.
There are much more Whites in poverty today in America without anywhere near this amount of problems and they don’t have the excuse of a ‘historically disadvantaged’ conspiracy.
White America lost its Civil Rights when the Soviets and Jews invented the “racism” conspiracy. Just like ‘Diversity’ means non-White, “racism” means White people have been cancelled and any other race can feed on White’s living carcass.
After segregation ended the mythology of racism as only skin color caused the flood of low IQ immigrants from the third world to destroy society.

But we’re moving beyond race
Progressives aren’t saying this. Only Whites have ever accepted being ‘race blind’ as part of the deal. Non-Whites don’t think twice about discrimination on behalf of their races and against Whites.

Discrimination for racial in-group preference is not immoral because guilt for “racism” is applied inconsistently. Asian Pride, Brown Pride, Black Pride, are fine but White Pride being understood as immoral exposes the inconsistency. An act is either immoral or it’s not. There can’t be inconsistency in a morality. Asians, Blacks, and Hispanics have dozens of ethno-states. Their own continents.

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Lincoln Ross
Lincoln Ross

interesting thinking OP. Have a bump, you made me think.

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Austin Sanchez
Austin Sanchez

I mean thanks for your guide but I prefer going with "racism is natural".

You're still putting yourself inside their moral framework. Step outside it.

Logan Lewis
Logan Lewis

Start arguing race is real!
No shit. Normies don't even doubt this they just tow the line out of fear. Your brain has to be twisted into some kind of pretzel to not notice the plain as day skeletal differences alone.

Asher Robinson
Asher Robinson

Your brain has to be twisted into some kind of pretzel
Yeah, that's kind of what most college education is these days. It's no surprise they beleive race was only invented in the colonial times and before that no one could tell a European and an African apart.

Christopher Miller
Christopher Miller

No. It’s a delusion. A conspiracy theory.
people that lynched blacks arent racists?

you are arguing like a fucking liberal … Its gonna be a new type of hell when Nazis beat Liberals by fighting fire with fire. Then youll be surrounded by a bunch of skin heads with liberal logic.

Stop twisting words you idiot. We all know racism has been over played but calling it "conspiracy theory" shows your age.

This is a hs student that has nothing better to do during summer right??? How old are you OP?

Christopher Hughes
Christopher Hughes

Fuck off reddit kike. You know damn well what he meant.

Joseph Evans
Joseph Evans

I prefer going with "racism is natural"
No shit race is real

True.
But I feel like the sin of "racism" has to be completely dismantled.
I hear a lot of Alt-Right e-celebs horseshoeing into Marxist tropes of racism - re-enforcing (((them))).
I don't like the "Yeah, you know what, we ARE racist." message.
It would be much better to blow it out of the water as a third wheel, tits on a boar conspiracy theory.
It would drive the SJWs even more insane and embolden whites who want to stand up but believe race realism is immoral.

Plus this happens to be the reality of the situation in terms of current philosophy, words as actions. "Racism" is a delusion. As Wittgenstein might say about it, 'A gear in a machine that turns, though no other thing turns with it is not part of a machine'. Same with 'racism' it's something that never happens when you look at the phenomena, or as they also say, it's always happening. As the colleges teach, all white men are racist and sexist. They are truly going with subconscious bias now with a straight face.

Jaxon Foster
Jaxon Foster

The woman on the right is true beauty. Remember again that the entire would was beautiful and without hate until so-called whites created racism from scratch in 1800 to enable anti-antisemitism. I highly doubt that the ugly man on the left is real as so-called whites constantly use their machinations to create perversions to further enforce racism.
"WHITE" IS NOT A RACE
ALL THINGS CAME FROM AFRICA

Christian James
Christian James

By definition, if you hold science over feelings and believe in the race theory, you're technically still not racist, you're only racist in other peoples minds because of their ignorance and or unwillingness to learn.

It's funny that people almost always accept another races (except white) superiority in a certain aspect but shun the negatives like the brain, fascinating cognitive dissonance.

Definition "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." belief is different than scientific proof.

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Robert Thomas
Robert Thomas

And the fact that most people refuse to publically confirm white peoples superiority in many fields indirectly confirms that we are indeed, superior.

Carson Rogers
Carson Rogers

Remember again that the entire would was beautiful and without hate until so-called whites created racism from scratch in 1800

Ha. See pic related. Whoever invented this racism conspiracy theory did it in the 30s and the Jews and Soviets popularized it.

Even blacks agree whites are better looking. You deny nature. All of history is tribal struggle for territory.

people that lynched blacks arent racists?

Glad you brought this up.
No. They weren't racist. They're just a race. A race protecting their territory. If a race has to secure territory, (which it does) there is going to be an edge to its territory and that territory has to be defended politically. War is politics by another means.
"Racism" is just a term to shame a race from protecting what itself.
Jews haven't had a border for most of their time but they put a border around themselves with mutual hatred and a religious delusion that makes their in-group preference palatable. So, the border doesn't have to be a 2D patch of land. Just the taking of a stand and a drawing a line in the sand.

The white enemies have to grab "lynching", frontier justice from American barbarism times for something to use against whites. And it was whites who created a system to do away with frontier justice.
You might notice other races aren't 'racist' for protecting or defending themselves. Outside of /ourguys/ very few, if any are calling South Africa racist for what it's doing to the White farmers. Many are calling it 'justice'.

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Brody Edwards
Brody Edwards

discrimination is just treating different people differently
prejudice is as useful as group studies and confirmed trends in that group
racism is another word with power but no meaning, and is used on people with the same volume and tone as scolding a dog.

Ayden Hill
Ayden Hill

Leftist idealogy never ceases to amaze me. I remember seeing that young dude from Infowars go to some college campus and have some fat ugly boomer woman come up to him and try to tell him that females and males were completely identical in every way. That's some new kind of pretzel.

James Wilson
James Wilson

You have it backwards kid.

Racism isn't real because race ISN'T real.
Here you argue the Leftist belief to demoralize them
1. If there are no aliens, then there are no alienists.
2. If there are no races then there are no racists, you're chasing phantoms and causing people to believe in something that doesn't exist, like aliens or lizard people. No one says, "Stop being a lizardist!"

But isn’t there still racism?
Yes, if races exist then there is a such thing as biologial competition. If whites refuse it they are commiting suicide while other races are taking advantage. Every sub-species, which race means, has the right to defend its interest in biological competition.

But white supremacy
Are you so in love and impressed with whites that if they come together and look out for themselves the way asians or jews or blacks do they will automatically rule over everyone and be supreme? You're saying they are superior, supermen. You're buying into paranoia.

That's how you do it. Your version is too rambing logos and not enough pathos.

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Thomas James
Thomas James

Terrible idea, the concept of racism, even though purely fabricated and baseless manipulation, is at core describing the occurrence of real behavior.
As much as leftist rethoric tries to hypnotize people into believing only whites can be racist, the act of discriminating someone SOLELY because of his genetics is actual conduct that happens all the time in a myriad of contexts, whether you think that's good or bad (think in kikes being "racist" against all goyim for example, do you find that kind of "racism" permissible and (((redpilled)))?).
Arguing that the concept of racism doesn't exist will immediately paint you as a retard, it is best to elucidate people into racial reality and clearly justify why it is good and important to isolate from certain groups without falling prey to blind individual discrimination, remember this every time some retard comes screaming about the RWDS aborting ALL niggers and killing ALL jews because ALL hapas and mutts will have more diseases and depression or some shit, as much as you think this is justified or even viable, this is why you are losing ground without even realizing it, because this mindset is as retarded and unpalatable as mindless tolerance and liberalism, people openly mock you because you always come up with this ridiculous shit instead of searching for actual counter measures that won't compromise justice and truth with blind lash outs at perceived enemies while completely ignoring the actual problems decimating the western world ( which could be summed up in the lack of logic, introspection and self awareness of whites a.k.a having enough IQ to bullshit themselves into rationalizing their collapse).

tl;dr: your logic is retarded, "racism" can be considered real precisely because races are verifiably real, if you want to mindbend the aversion to racial cohesion out of people, then point at the reality of race WITHOUT trying to justify UNJUSTIFIED animosity towards innocent people.
Listen, I know you don't like how this sounds, but you need to make this about your well being and consequentially everyone else's, not about missdirected tribalism and how mad you are at shitkins being waged by kikes against you. The momment you say some stupid shit like "genociding the nigger babies will save our retarded satanist race that preffers cats, drugs, dildos, aids, videogames and tranny kike porn over children", everyone will simply ignore you as another retard in the bunch (because you are), you need to fix yourself before trying to campaign against others, how can you fight the poison outside you if you can't even fight the one inside you?

Josiah Ward
Josiah Ward

Racism isn’t real because race IS real.

It goes deeper than that. "Race" is a word that was imposed on us. We used to think of the world as Christendom and savages. Back then we knew niggers and spics for what they are- different species. We used to capture them and keep them in zoos. Id says racism is real, bu it's properly defined as "inability or refusal to acknowledge the existence of more than one modern species branched off of homo sapiens and suspension of biological taxonomy arbitrarily when applied to humans (and niggers)"

Jack Jones
Jack Jones

You just outed yourself

Alexander Hall
Alexander Hall

is real sounds like isreal so that could work

Hudson Davis
Hudson Davis

Argue with who? Leftist fags? Why when you can hit them?

Anyway replying to some piece of shit who calls you racist with, 'race isn't real' is an old troll. It's good, it works. Anytime you can thrown their lunacy in their face they start to shortcircuit.

Oliver Gray
Oliver Gray

It's only a sin if you let it be one. Assert your own moral framework, that's how you win these battles.

I don't like the "Yeah, you know what, we ARE racist." message.
You have to approach it with an even more aggressive angle, more like "are you really that naive and dumb to think races aren't real?" or "quit pathologizing my brain's core function of grouping phenomena together".

embolden whites who want to stand up but believe race realism is immoral.
All of those have already taken up arms. You cannot deny our more fundamental nature. Stop spending so much time around cosmopolitans and start growing roots. You'll find a super-truth.

As the colleges teach, all white men are racist and sexist.
So then retort that they're call you names. Let them call you names, they're just jews after all.

Dylan Robinson
Dylan Robinson

No.
Racism is real AND race is real.
Racism is simply the recognition of the reality of biological and genetic race and the importance of the differences between racial groups.
Racism is not "hatred," it is simply a recognition of reality. It is truth.
Racism is not the same thing as "racial hatred." They are separate and distinct.
Whatever the kike definitions of the term are; reject them if they are not the above.
Racism is rejecting lies and embracing truth about race.
Anti-racism is denying the reality of biological race and is a forerunner to genocide.
Denying that a people exist as a distinct group is stage one to eliminating a people and thus genocide.
Genocide is the elimination of a people as a distinct group. It need not necessarily be achieved through violence. There are other ways to genocide a people, such as through flooding their lands with foreigners and discouraging the natives from breeding within their own group (or at all).
Hmmmm…….

Hurr-derr muh shitposting
Very funny.
Next time, though, you should add in a bunch of spelling errors.
Clearly not enough for a proper wewuz.

Won't work.
They'll just screech "racist" over and over.
You are assuming that they will listen to ANYTHING that you say. They will either screech "racist" right away or listen for a while while you elucidate a sophisticated argument THEN screech "racist" all the louder.

That is why you fight fire with fire.
When they screech "racist" you screech right back "White genocide."
As long as they keep screeching "racist" then you keep screeching "White genocide" or just "genocide."
Then they will either go away in a huff or quiet down for a bit. If they quiet down THEN you can elucidate a sophisticated argument about the reality of the ongoing genocide of White people.
But first one must break through the wall of childish screaming.
Furthermore, the leftist programming hammers two main "sins" into the lefties heads: racism because "muh ebil rayciss nahtzees were rayciss" and genocide because "muh hollowcost dem ebil rayciss nahtzees gassed six gorillion poor, innocent, dindunuffin jews dose bastids!!!"
Thus by countering the "racism" sin with the "genocide" sin the lefty drone's programming can be turned on itself and thus confuse the drone. Once confused, then the drone may become slightly receptive to more complex argumentation.
Of course, unless the drone in question is White there is no point, unless there are Whites in the "audience" who would therefore be the main point of the exchange. That is to say, redpilling them would be the point.
That's the theory, anyway.

"genociding the nigger babies will save our retarded satanist race that preffers cats, drugs, dildos, aids, videogames and tranny kike porn over children"
You appear to have us confused with kikes.
We are not kikes.
Gas yourself
Furthermore, White nationalism is about SEPARATION.
Personally, I don't want to kill anyone or have anyone be killed.
But, that in NO WAY reduces my desire to reestablish White countries for White people and only White people.
Non-Whites have their ethnic homelands that are very close to ethnostates.
Whites must also.

Anyone opposing White nationalism is supporting White genocide.
Make the lefties defend genocide.
Make the anti-Whites defend genocide.
Expose their hypocrisy.
Expose their hatred for Whites.
Make things clear.

Charles Clark
Charles Clark

Jewery is real…

Carson Hill
Carson Hill

Also, race and racism aren't synonymous. #racialism

Easton Peterson
Easton Peterson

Racism is simply the recognition of the reality of biological and genetic race and the importance of the differences between racial groups
Racism is not "hatred," it is simply a recognition of reality. It is truth
Now THAT is delusion.

Benjamin Bailey
Benjamin Bailey

(((Racism))) is a kike D&C tactic.

Xavier Adams
Xavier Adams

Life is short. Be a racist.

Brandon Lewis
Brandon Lewis

I like that. Have a bump.

Easton Stewart
Easton Stewart

Your narrative is shit, "racism is scientific fact" is a better one.

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Caleb Collins
Caleb Collins

racism isnt real
I do this almost every day. you should see the looks and screeching replies I get. I told my gf this and she would always bring it up when she would yell at me about unrelated bullshit.
you dont even think racism is real!
ok then, define it. someone else will have a different response.
thats MEAN.
even after taking time to slowly explain why "racism" is a pointless buzzword, basically baby babble in place of big boy words, and she agreed, she STILL brings it up. I guess if a woman is being calm and agreeable, nodding her head, it just means she wants you to shut up and fuck her so she can go to sleep.

Justin Young
Justin Young

"racism is scientific fact" is a better one.

I disagree.
Explaining to Darkies they are just different and there is no conspiracy to keep them down is better for ethno-nationalism
Explaining to Normies who see race differences but are afraid to speak up for them - that "racism" is a conspiracy theory and there is nothing immoral about taking stand for their White race is better.
Trolling (((Academe, Media, Hollywood, etc))) and their minions by busting the racism conspiracy theory will drive them fucking insane and take their power, maybe their ability to ruin people, and their moral high ground away.

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Thomas Bailey
Thomas Bailey

Racism as in 'unmotivated hostility toward other races' is real. America stuck to this belief and will be forever branded by the hypocrisy of calling itself the land of freedom, while at the same time using slavery (something abandoned in Europe for millennia) and later treating the ex-slaves as second class citizens.

America shit their bed and must deal with it. It's not every other white nation's fault, that you compromised christian morals for dollars. That Trotskikes use racism to divide and conquer is beyond the point, the fact is that there is indeed an original sin to exploit.

And the niggers have lower IQ. And the black crime rate is through the roof. And the violene of black society is proof that they're incompatible with white society, like a lowkey civil war. And it is unimaginable how incompatible first generation slaves were from european settlers, essentially like comparing a reinassance man to a caveman. And black achievements are zero. This is all true: so how do you deal with it? You stay away from niggers. Instead no, you had and import them by the milions and treat them like animals. So now we have this problem we never asked for, and you still can't take responsibility.

David Davis
David Davis

you misunderstand the situation user
it doesn't matter how logical and airtight your argument is
we are fighting people that don't care about truth
they don't fight fair and they only care about winning
they want you dead and will say and do anything that they think will help their cause
we cannot logic our way out of this
they must be lampposted
All of them

Adrian Morgan
Adrian Morgan

There is no magic combination of words you can string together to get us out of this situation. There will be no keyboard warrior victory.

Joshua Baker
Joshua Baker

Might as well say that sexism isn't real because men and women exist.

Baka faggot OP

Ayden Flores
Ayden Flores

I hate niggers.

Samuel Brown
Samuel Brown

Racism is real AND race is real.
No it's not Commie.
When they screech "racist" you screech right back "White genocide."
Hasn't worked. White suicide is better.

Might as well say that sexism isn't real because men and women exist.
this

Nathaniel Cooper
Nathaniel Cooper

start arguing that racism isnt real because race IS real
Good idea but wrong execution. Here are some bullet points to keep in mind:
1. Normies know race is real they refuse to acknowledge racial differences
2. Normies believe races can get along because muh nonwhite friends
3. The most ardent leftist has good intentions behind his ideology even if its ultimately genocidal and impoverishing.
4. Liberals FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE BRO
With these four points in mind you need to construct an argument that gets ALL of these quickly, leaving them stunned and with little ways out. Here are some loaded questions to get past the cognitive dissonance, how you work your way into these is up to the individual and obviously context dependent:
Do you believe in evolution? Since we agree that evolution is real and affects every living organism that has ever existed. Do you believe people of all races are equal? If this is the case then explain why no other animal on the planet is equal since they've evolved differently.
If you actually want to argue that humans are above evolution then you're basically saying human beings are gods above the laws of nature, start flying or breathe underwater then.
Races are different and they're different in various ways, from behavior to skin, skull and physiology and its due to evolution. Because of this races are superior to one another in specific fields, whites in creativity, jews in IQ, asians in memorization, blacks in sports… There is nothing in any way wrong with this, its just what it is because that's what was necessary to survive. If you deny this then you literally deny the entire scientific study of biology.
Diversity is not blending everyone together, diversity is everyone having their own spaces where one can travel to. If you blend every color together you have no diversity of color, if you blend every culture together you have no diversity of cultures. A middle eastern restaurant in the US is nowhere near the same as anyplace in the middle east, diversity is a fake copy trying to pass itself off as the real thing, If you really care about cultures you would want them preserved, not faked and made into a shell of what they were. Do you have a problem with traveling to non European countries or something; or do you just like appropriating cultures to pretend you're so knowledgeable about the world?
I understand that you want the absolute best for other people, but the reality is you're taking most of them from a place and culture where they thrive and sending them elsewhere to fail. Do you think every white or black person would fit into Asian cultures just because they lived there for a few years? Of course not, its too different from what we are. I completely get that you have the best intentions, but you are causing harm through policies that sound good yet don't actually do good. Aid to Africa sounds good but it just ended with a population explosion, mass poverty remains with more kids needing food or dying, and warlords stealing whats left to go wage war. You instead need work on the ground, farming efforts that the locals follow and adapt to, however this can also forever change and destroy some tribal cultures where people cooperate as basically a big family of hundreds near the desert. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, you are unknowingly paving many people across the world a road to hell.
Separation is not bad, especially if you have an emphasis on trade, travel and cooperation between separate countries. When we try shit like forcing democracy everywhere like in places in the middle east where they don't want it, all we get is bloodshed and war because we try to force change for political reasons. Let them be, let them keep their ways of life and offer assistance when they ask for help if possible. If you force everyone to be together you get shut ins and a race to take over as much as possible so that each culture doesn't get wiped out. This is true even for blacks who've lived in america for hundreds of years, they have their own culture and that's fine, give them a space to live free from our expectations of them and from any sort of oppression.
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Owen Green
Owen Green

(2/2)
Did you know our government pays black women to have kids and keep the father away? Imagine how harmful that is to a growing child. But it sounds nice doesn't it? Giving money to moms raising a kid without a man in the house, who could be against that? Well, you can only be against it if you don't realize you can use that same money to promote family stability…
If you want to make the races equal then what can you do? We've tried everything. We did economic incentives, race based discrimination like affirmative action, we did excessive school funding, desegregation, equality under the law, trans-racial adoption studies, studies with test scores and economic backgrounds, excessive welfare spending, school lunch programs, school vouchers, school busing policies… None of it has eliminated the differences between races, we aren't even close. In terms of IQ the avg black IQ has risen about 3 points since the army first started doing IQ testing. All those hundreds of billions gone for just 3 IQ points. What more and how much more do we have to spend so you can keep your dreams alive? Can you even imagine what we could have spent that money on in terms of infrastructure, technology, farming, public transport systems, pipe maintenance so often that we wouldn't have had california's drought crisis?

Really go at it from the good intentions or the "you're denying science" angle. When you go from the good intentions angle it really forces them to reconsider, because when you humanize your opinions and they can't refute it then they HAVE to reconsider if they're really in the wrong. If they individually won't then the crowd will. If they doubt race realism refer to haplogroups and genetic clustering. Be aware of the "variance between individuals of a race more than of other races" fallacy, the more genes you account for the more impossible this becomes. If you go for black hair then the claim is true, black haired white individuals cluster more with Africans than other whites. But do Black hair and green eyes and suddenly that overlap is gone. Black hair, green eyes and non curly hair, BAM even less overlap.

Aiden Fisher
Aiden Fisher

explaining to darkies that they're just different and there's no conspiracy to keep them down is better for ethnonationalism
Yes and no. Explain that yes we are different but that the "white man keeping the black man down" conspiracy is one they themselves literally vote for.
1. Bring up LBJ's quote where he says "we gotta give them something, not a lot but something… I'll have those niggers voting democrat for the next 100 years"
2. Point out how that something is welfare that intends to break up the family to keep black kids as permanent failures, black moms as whorish as possible and black fathers away from their kids so they grow up without a role model and turn to gang violence.
3. Then bring up how around 90% of niggers vote democrat every single election
4. Ask the individual nigger how many times they voted for their own modern day enslavement and how many friends he's got that are not only voting but enslaving themselves through the same policies, or grew up fatherless.
5. When he tries to blame white people just say liberals are just obsessed with not coming off as racist so they wanna get on the good side of as many token black or hispanics as possible and vote for it because they think they come off as good people because they vote to "help". Then explain that jews aren't white, own everything and profit by keeping everyone else down since they corrupted banking, academia, media, and consistently lobby our congress. If they show some form of rejection about the kikepill ask them to name a single democrat or republican that is heavily anti israel or bring up how they've got their own special name for racism "anti semitism"

Jordan Collins
Jordan Collins

nice

Gabriel Gomez
Gabriel Gomez

Now THAT is delusion
says the deluded.
Why do you hate White people so much?
You are the one motivated by hatred.
You are the one supporting genocide.

Deport all non-Whites.
Problem solved.
THAT is taking responsibility.
Besides, our ancestors already created the solution to the "ex slave" problem. It's called Liberia.
Furthermore, all the post 1965 "immigrants" (most of the non-Whites today) are unrelated to the "slave trade."
Furthermore, slavery existed ALL OVER THE WORLD.
IT STILL DOES many places.
There are more LITERAL slaves in Africa RIGHT NOW than EVER existed in the USA.
The muslum slave trade into the middle east, india, and southeast asia transported more africans than the western slave trade into the Americas ever did.
Can't talk about that, though.
"Dat be rayciss."
All irrelevant, though. Slavery existed. Blacks were enslaved. Literally "so what?" They were freed 150 years ago.
They should get over it.
And also go build their wakanda in Liberia.

Commie? Hilarious. Because opposing jews and jew-invented marxism is somehow the opposite of itself.
Furthermore, White genocide is a FAR better term than "White suicide." "Suicide" implies that there are no non-White forces pushing for White genocide. "Suicide" ignores the reality of MASSIVE jewish propaganda and jewish control of the media and government which it uses to HURT WHITE PEOPLE.
You seek to demonize and demoralize Whites, rather than to expose the enemies of Whites.
White genocide isn't just "happening" and it isn't "suicide;" it is BEING DONE TO US.

Blacks will never be on our side.
Ever.
Most blacks just want gibs.
The "talented tenth" wants both gibs and special advantages over Whites.
They will NEVER support anything that decreases pro-black bias. They will NEVER support anything that leads to more power for Whites and less power for non-Whites.
Logic doesn't matter to them because RACE does. Their race.

Whites need to advocate for WHITES and stop trying to reason with people who have made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that they hate us and want us driven to extinction.
White nationalism means SEPARATION.
It means White countries for White people and only White people.
It is not about hate.
It is not about violence.
It does not mean killing people.
It means SEPARATION.

Matthew Davis
Matthew Davis

pic related
How are zionist mistranslators capable of making so many lulzy memes?

Parker King
Parker King

They will NEVER support anything that decreases pro-black bias. They will NEVER support anything that leads to more power for Whites and less power for non-Whites. Logic doesn't matter to them because RACE does. Their race.
Which is why you convince them to go wakanda nationalism, pro black stance that you can easily get by rubbing their ego. Convince em to go their own way and you win. Yes I am kidding because this is never gonna happen, but its literally the only possible strat with niggers.
Whites need to advocate for WHITES and stop trying to reason with people who have made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that they hate us and want us driven to extinction.
THIS
White nationalism means SEPARATION. It means White countries for White people and only White people. It means SEPARATION.
It means survival.

Landon Gutierrez
Landon Gutierrez

i would avoid the compromise of "asians are better at computers, jews have higher iq, and negro is more athletic". for one the validity of these claims is shaky, but mainly you just end up emboldening the other races who are already tribal enough as it is while simultaneously giving cucked whites more reason to worship other races and diversity while continuing to ignore their own superiority. you'll end up with "umm whites are maybe good at building marble columns but we cant dance so who cares lol".
this does not remove demoralization from whites in any way.

Grayson Cooper
Grayson Cooper

Where have you been, nigger? I have been arguing that.
If you're using that word, you're actually still inside the kike framework. Git gud.
Fuck off you summerfag faggot nigger.
The alt-kike is run by kikes in intelligence services. You are also a summerfag.
b8

Leo Adams
Leo Adams

Start arguing psychic attack is real. I'm an IDF Soldier from the cyber/psych unit in tel aviv. You're all Nazi faggots.

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Carson Hernandez
Carson Hernandez

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Brody Phillips
Brody Phillips

When Progressives say ‘discrimination plus power’ they’re just talking about the interests of a majority vs a minority.

The whole reason the United States are a constitutional republic, and not a democracy.
The democrats know deep down that this is how it should be and it's why they are so outraged.

The kikes like to take fundamental truths and use them as the basis of deception.

Josiah Cruz
Josiah Cruz

You can't "not be racist" because racism doesn't exist.
People being "not racist" are the ones upvoting blacks doing everyday normal things on Reddit.

What you're saying is 'be your race', which means protect and further the interests of your race. I agree.

Another thought: We should argue that racism is a conspiracy theory because this will give us the moral high ground. It is abject cruelty to target slower, less able people and convince them they are that way because someone victimized them.
Not only does it hurt and confuse them,
It hurts the people who were said to victimize them
It is very ill gotten gains for (((people))) to exploit for political gain
It is cruel to even make an issue of people's lower IQs and lower abilities. It robs them of what they should be grateful for.
A great line of reasoning to win back women on the race issue.

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Aiden Adams
Aiden Adams

people that lynched blacks arent racists?
No, they were doing their civic duty

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Hunter Lee
Hunter Lee

The racism myth is only true if racial differences are irrelevant or myths. Because race is real racism is not.

I don't agree. Racial differences being real means that opinions based on those real differences are not racism, but there could still exist racism based on non-existent differences. Like for example, if I fear black people because I think melanin is an explosive substance that could cause mass destruction when exposed to kryptonite. That would be racism because it's based on a fake difference.

Hunter Clark
Hunter Clark

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Isaac Cooper
Isaac Cooper

Yeah that’s the ticket, just pretend you’re supporting us while you fight like niggers.

Lucas Evans
Lucas Evans

I think melanin is an explosive substance

See? The "racism" myth can only be real in a fantasy dimension.
If anyone or a group did actually have a 'wrong' accounting, an irrational fear, a 'prejudice' then the wrongness would be corrected when that maligned group proves to NOT be that thing.
Like women in tech 'bias'. If there was an actual bias keeping tech women down they would start their own companies or get hired by up and coming companies for cheaper.

"Racism" only means Whites have no political power. It's not allowed because Whites can't exercise political power without abusing others.

Jackson Hall
Jackson Hall

They'll just screech "racist" over and over.
Depending on the context, you should use intelligent arguments or not.

If many people are seeing you, you should mention your best arguments for racialism (the "idea" that races exist) and show the incoherence of "no races".
If there are no races, there couldn't exist racism..

If you are in a situation where you can straight away finish the miserable discussion with the necessary violence, do it. But if many people see you starting the fight, they will criticize you and you lose.

Kayden Long
Kayden Long

Well, amerimutts aren't white so it's just sub-humans killing sub-humans.

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Isaac Mitchell
Isaac Mitchell

"For every sneaky lie we can tell, (such as that we are "not racists",) the Jew can tell the much better and more convincing lies."

I'm not arguing that we are 'not racist' I'm arguing that racism doesn't exist. I'm saying it's not possible to be a 'racist' and the eternal Boomer's cry that he is 'not racist' is something different all together.

And it's not a lie. Racism is a conspiracy theory. What they call 'racism' effectively means Whites can't be a race.

Leo Cruz
Leo Cruz

The problem with healthcare and education is that it's dominated by subhuman beaner gookniggers.

Tyler Butler
Tyler Butler

Or just tell people the truth: Everyone is racist.

Carter Perry
Carter Perry

you're a fucking idiot mate

Dylan Sanchez
Dylan Sanchez

Or just tell people the truth: Everyone is racist.

This isn't going to make our race realism 'safe' for the Normies and the politicians to embrace.
Right now a majority of Whites are /ourguys/ but they are closeted about it from even the closest people in their lives because they suspect it is immoral to stand up for White interests.
This needs to happen 30 years ago. We need to get on point.

I hear many in the Alt-Right horseshoeing ethno-nationalism into Marxist-SJW tropes. This is a mistake. These people are trying to kill you. Do NOT legitimize them. Destroy, troll and humiliate them.

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Jacob Morgan
Jacob Morgan

"racist" is an unscientific, value-laden label that does not use "people first" language.
anyone who uses the term "racist" to denigrate others is irrational.
logical people use the phrase "person with in-group preferences" rather than "racist".

Joshua Richardson
Joshua Richardson

Human intelligence up to 75% inheritible
telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/12061787/Intelligence-genes-discovered-by-scientists.html

Human intelligence is highly heritable.
nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/abs/mp201185a.html

Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305

Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public.
udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994egalitarianfiction.pdf

Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001

The average African IQ is estimated at 79.
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741

The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100.
udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf

The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing.
jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636

Intelligence has at least a 40-50% genetic basis.
articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/10/news/la-heb-genetic-study-intelligence-20110809

IQ scores are the best predictor of success in Western society.
psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

IQ is 75% heritable among Whites.
psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

Frances IQ drops 4 points per decade because of African immigration
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289615001221

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Tyler Adams
Tyler Adams

“[…] My view on identity politics is that it can be justified only if everyone of any ethnicity is entitled to participate, in which case it is necessary for all (because failing to assert it, as when White people of European ancestry fail to assert it lest they be branded as “racists”, means leaving oneself and one’s group defenseless against competition for resources and opportunity). Alternatively, lest any group be denied its identity while others assert their own, group identity must be equitably denied to everyone.

Human identity is stratified, and thus has both individual and group levels. Accordingly, we can (and sometimes must) reason in terms of group identity. But when group self-identification is officially granted to some groups yet denied to others against which they compete, this can only result in imbalance and injustice. For example, when some overpopulating groups which have overtaxed their own resources by reproductive incontinence and homegrown oligarchy are allowed to migrate into the sovereign territories of worldwide ethnic minorities - e.g., people of European descent - and enjoy special “oppressed” status whereby they reap special benefits such as free food, free housing, free education, free healthcare, affirmative action, reproductive subsidies, and special treatment under the law, and are even credited with moral superiority due to their alleged “oppression”, this can result in the destruction of the national, cultural, and ethnic identity of the hosts, leading ultimately to their extinction. Incoming groups which assert their own collective identities while denying their hosts any reciprocal right of political group cohesion thus amount to noxious, invasive, and ultimately lethal socioeconomic parasites. Obviously, any governmental authority which enforces or encourages such asymmetry - e.g., the European Union - is illegitimate.

Bear in mind that once we cease to treat individuals as individuals per se, thus allowing members of their respective groups to assert their ethnic, cultural, or religious (etc.) identities against their “oppressors”, their group properties and statistics are automatically opened to scrutiny and comparative analysis. For example, if after several generations of special treatment in the educational sphere (compulsory school integration, special programs, modifications of educational procedure, racially defined college admission preferences, etc.), a particular “oppressed” group fails as a whole to outgrow these measures, its members are no longer entitled to exemption from objective characterization in terms of associated group statistics; if one wants to enjoy the social benefits attending ethically loaded group-defined properties like “belonging to an oppressed group”, one must submit to rational policies formed on the basis of not just individual assessment, but empirically confirmed group-defined properties such as “belonging to a group exhibiting a relatively low mean IQ and a tendency to violently disrupt the educational environment”. Continuing to pursue racially parameterized measures of human worth and achievement can only lead to personal injustice, social degradation, and biological degeneration (because such measures inevitably supplant any rational form of social, economic, and reproductive selection).

In short, identity politics should either be shut down immediately, or the majority populations of Europe and North America should be encouraged to assert their own ethnic and cultural identities and group interests with full force. Any governmental, academic, religious, or media authority which tries to prevent it is clearly unworthy of respect and obedience.

Chris Langan

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Brandon Nelson
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Connor Clark
Connor Clark

There are no "races", it is a made up term used ONLY to describe separate, distinct species of humans. Ever hear of a "race" of elephants? Or "race" of ants?
How come humans are unique and are magically all the same species despite being so different?

Noah Hall
Noah Hall

It would be cruel to tell a nursing home full of people society was keeping them down, making them age because the young hated them.
That's a good analogy.

Josiah Turner
Josiah Turner

Whoever invented this racism
The story I heard, which sounds pretty reasonable, is that Marxists couldn't understand why the communist revolutions that I had worked so well in Russia and China didn't spread to the rest of the world. Why didn't the "oppressed" workers of Europe and America stand up and overthrow their governments too?

The answer (that the Marxists hit on) is that workers in prosperous white countries don't consider themselves to be different from the rich elites the way that serfs in Russia considered themselves to be different.

So, Marxists had to find a way to make people feel different from each other. The idea they hit on was race. Before WWII, there was hundreds of "races" - people used the term race to describe the difference between italians and germans, for example: "the german race." There were also lots of different races of what we now call only "black." They still have some of this in South Africa by the way - they have a difference between "black" and "colored"

Anyway, the Marxists changed he meaning of race to mean just white, black, and asian. Then they directed everyone's hate against "whites" (which includes Jews when you want to say "look how they control everything! They must be cheating!" but doesn't include Jews when someone criticizes an individual Jew).

They made racism the worst possible thing you can be. Whites (note that I'm using their made up grouping now) are terrified of the label. They turned whites against other whites by saying, "you need to separate yourself from the evil racists, otherwise you're a racist too!"

Now they can have their glorious marxist revolution, only instead of proletariat vs. borgeous, it's oppressed POC (and women) vs. the oppressor white males.

Christopher Roberts
Christopher Roberts

it also works to push racism is a scam run by losers and con artists.

bigotry is real, the lugenpresse is obviously bigoted against ethnic europeans. They have a pathological hatred of us.

Racism though isn't even real, it is for losers who can't handle responsibility and want a boogeyman to blame. And con artists who figured out how to extract energy (currency) from the system by manipulating dumb weak peoples emotions.

Benjamin Allen
Benjamin Allen

Spotted the faggot. Kill yourself now and save us the trouble.

Nolan Wilson
Nolan Wilson

bigotry is real
I would just call that in-group-preference.
Though the term 'bigotry' implies in group preference is based on ignorance and is immoral. It's not. Clearly 'bigotry' is a broader umbrella conspiracy theory thought crime than racism.

Preferring sameness over an unknown different option is always questionable but it's ultimately the choosers choice. If you condemn someone, or say get them fired for their choice you're shitting on the constitution.
(Not you specifically, just the epic libtard SJW faggots who want authoritarian statist control.)

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Jason Powell
Jason Powell

There are no "races"
Ever hear of a "race" of elephants?

"Muh one human race". You're talking about subspecies.

See? When you make the Progressives explain themselves, (which never happens because everyone runs in fear of them on the topic of race) when you get them to explain themselves they literally have to say race is a social construct built on melanin.

They have to deny the realities of race putting boundaries on its culture.
They have to deny differences in culture, in values can't be changed with an appeal to reason.
They have to deny the realities of race and IQ.
They would have you believe the unreality that the body's highest energy consuming organ evolved the same everywhere while penis size didn't.
They need you to believe a conspiracy theory is keeping Blacks and Hispanics down but allowing Indians (descended from India) to be the highest earning Americans.

Brayden Cooper
Brayden Cooper

Ha. See pic related.
Racism was coined 1907 in some dickweeds paper that got passed around
Furthermore, all the post 1965 "immigrants" (most of the non-Whites today) are unrelated to the "slave trade."
Perfect point to argue that in 1965 the US population was 194 million and that blacks made up about 10 to 11 percent I think hispanic is probably 2 or 3 percent.
Best way to argue is by citing shit like theres no tomorrow you just gotta be well equipped you can go at it from any approach just close the deal