Inmate had hand-made pictures of kids having sex, court says. It counts as child porn A 45-year-old man who was already in prison for having child pornography will continue to spend more time behind bars for keeping drawings of children having sex with adults, an appeals court has decided. Christopher John Czarnik is a prisoner at the Oaks Correctional Facility in Michigan. He was sentenced to prison in 2014 after pleading guilty to charge of possessing and distributing sexually explicit images of children, prison records show. While in prison in 2016, a corrections officer patted down the inmate during a search and found a drawing of a young girl "having sex and performing oral sex on an adult male," court records said. The officer also reported finding a hand-written story of a 6-year having sex with adults.
In an interview with state police, Czarnik allegedly confessed to having more drawings and stories in his cell, and as a result of a search, correctional officers seized 10 hand-drawn pictures of children having sex and 16 different writings "depicting sexual acts between adults and children." Czarnik said he drew two of the pictures and wrote eight of the stories, court records said. Prosecutors charged Czarnik for keeping and producing sexually abusive material of children. Czarnik pleaded guilty, but entered the plea under the condition that the trial court would still rule on his motion to quash the information and dismiss the charge against him. Court records said he argued the pictures were "cartoon drawings of fictional characters," suggesting he couldn't be prosecuted for having sexually abusive material under state law. He also argued that "purely verbal descriptions" of children having sex aren't included in the statute.
The prosecution contended the drawings, as well as the writings, qualified as child sexually abusive material.
In its opinion released this week, the appeals court ultimately sided with the state. "Defendant argues that 'depiction' is not meant to included purely textual writings because the statute's definition purportedly shows that it is meant to cover only visual or audio representations," the appeals court wrote. "But because the pictures and illustrations defendant drew easily qualify as child sexually abusive material, we need not reach the question of whether his written stories qualify as well." In response to Czarnik's argument that the drawings showed "fictional characters," the appeals court also wrote "there is no mistaking that the drawings represented a human child — they were not outlandish 'cartoons' that did not reasonably resemble a person." Because he pleaded guilty, Czarnik was sentenced to a minimum of seven more years in prison in 2016, which was set to run consecutively to other sentences he's serving, according to MLive. His earliest release date is in 2026, prison records show.
the pictures were "cartoon drawings of fictional characters," suggesting he couldn't be prosecuted for having sexually abusive material under state law. He also argued that "purely verbal descriptions" of children having sex aren't included in the statute.
Grayson Lee
well in that case, anime/loli garbage is officially pedo material.
Time to email congress and all the government officials who are christian, hopefully they will ban this not-an-artform garbage once and for all.
Blake Morales
< how does this apply to me
It will soon be against the law to have sex with your 40 year old milf if she wears pig tails while you do it, or Depends.
Lucas Ward
What about simpsons porn that used to be all over pornsite sidebar ads?
Kayden Perez
Pinterest has been a major trafficker of CP for years
ie lexical connectedness is in every case taken as equivalence.
here is an example.
I know jack.
Jack knows Jill.
Jill knows Bob.
And Bob knows how to ski at the competitive level.
Therefore I know how to ski at the competitive level.
Parker Long
Dubious.
Andrew Parker
I would gladly sacrifice anime if it means destroying the insufferable plague that is Pinterest
Ian Adams
you're willing to make nude Ebola-chan illegal???
Christian Hernandez
I don't really know much about Pinterest, what are the worst things it's done?
Gabriel Johnson
Basically, this hasn't been decided yet. Don't you just fucking love the kike (((legal))) system? It's not a justice system, it's a system of laws. So what is lawful? Nobody knows. Not even the Supreme Court (they'll have to (((decide)))). Your lawyer doesn't know, the judge doesn't know, the prosecution doesn't know, and the only one who thinks he knows is a few uneducated retards.
However, though everyone admits nobody knows…
…they with no malice, those microbrained fools, with the trusting eyes of those who gave their babies to be slaughtered by the Aztec cults, say, "ignorance is no excuse of the law".
Jayden Morris
It's literally just a place for people to pin interesting sites. It's used by old women for decorator ideas. It's related somewhat to the concept of a "mood board", in (((fashion))).
Evan Jones
What a retard.
Samuel Turner
People tend to distance themselves from controversy out of a desire for self-preservation.
William Williams
I know it's illegal to murder someone.
Cameron Foster
No you don't. You don't know, because you don't know if it IS murder.
However, murder is one of the least interesting topics, because you don't need a legal system to have a code of morality pertaining to murder, nor for prescriptions for it.
It is simply natural for the community to commence a hanging for those who have committed heinous crime.
There is something done in law, which is to pretend that things which people naturally agree to is something which from it sprang.
It did not. It came from the hearts of the People.
Unless you're a brown illegal alien and murder a white person
Jacob Bailey
I would think this ruling has far reaching implications, legally
Christian Lopez
Nobody is going to mistake anime gook garbage for humans. Calm your soytits.
Nicholas Turner
Examples of murder some places called not-murder: > Perform a late term abortion, cutting the throat of the fetus/baby so that it cannot make noise, if it's developed that far, then sell the pieces to (((stem cell))) companies.
on and on it goes….
…basically, the way it works in the Supreme Court is "ALL OUR RICH KIKE BUDDIES DEY SUPPOSE TO WIN"
Alexander Clark
user are you implying animals should be held accountable for their actions?
Cooper Richardson
It's early. Hopefully it will get appealed.
WRONG WRONG WRONG
If you don't draw either big boobs or a big dick on a hand-drawn nude, it's considered questionable. It's up to how some boomer is feeling that day to decide (there are no objective standards - the greatest retard in Court history, surpassing even Kagan the dunce, stated "i know it when i see it" - gas him, fucking gas that cunt, that everlasting stupid fuck).
Oh I hope so. It's already illegal in Canada. Jeff Sessions made a huge bust on 2300 pedophiles of cp with real children which is more than Canada can say for this year. Above everything real children need to be protected but I hate that loli shit.
William Anderson
what if fictional depiction consented though??
Thomas Phillips
That has certainly happened, yes.
< crayon drawings should be banned because white (((sharia)))
Jason Thomas
This article is not very informative, the guy was tracing pictures of kids and making porn from that.
Here's the thing. According to the statute any sexualized depiction of a real child is CP. I.E. you trace over the face of a girl in a catalog and draw the rest of her getting boned. That legally is CP. Yes that would make lazy town porn and harry potter porn CP if they are based off the child actors.
Furthermore there are federal enhancements that apply if you have fictional depictions of children (cartoon, not based on real children) if those depictions are (((obscene))) and are illegal under state obscenity laws where you possess them (most states don't have these laws still on the books), so yes loli could be illegal in your state.
In a rather odd twist actual images of naked kids are legal if they have serious artistic, political or scientific merit; or if the images where taken in a scenario where nudity was culturally normal (jungle tribe or even nudist colony), courts have ruled that these pictures remain "not CP" even if they are cropped to focus on the genitals, however if the photos where taken initially with the focus being genitals it could be considered CP.
BTW penalty for CP possession is 10 years per instance, you could have 1000's of years of jail time in one micro sd card.
It is also illegal to request or search for CP, it is not illegal to view it by accident and the courts have ruled that automatic cashing of images in temporary files by web browsers is not possession, actively saving them defiantly is. However if you have some CP in your browser history you can be assured that they will also try to see what you where searching for and they can nail you on that.
Daniel Edwards
Pedos argued for "ethical" CP now lolicons will be forced to argue for "ethical" drawings.
and of course the torpedo knows all the ins and outs, how they'll get you and how they won't, of cp. never fail torfags.
Josiah Young
The law never changed. You can consult the Justice Department website. Their opinion has always been that some depictions - but not all, on the basis of their own boomer feelings - are tolerable, while others are not.
Do you suppose there is any justice where there is a kike suffered?
< don't know stuff, goyim < let the kikes tell you what to be scared of
Leo Scott
should've claimed sovereign citizen
Juan Ward
This world exists, trollkike.
Kayden Martinez
I have never benefited by the existence of kikes, and shall not miss any of them, as they are placed in carbon recycling facilities.
Logan Thompson
>you follow the rules (((they))) define for you on their whim based on their (((feelings))) yep stuck in the matrix
Jonathan Adams
Put the cocksucker in general population or give him some rope so he can hang himself.
Pardon. You are saying things which are "not in evidence".
You have an undisciplined mind. You need to learn logic. INCOMPETENT!
Jack Watson
"If we don't know what we're doing, our enemies sure as hell don't either!" comes to mind.
Ethan James
It ought to be interesting when they try to bring in the "victims" to testify.
Adrian Wright
They never have victims testify. They just use (((expert witnesses))).
They may as well be consorting witch doctors with bones through their noses.
Jace Lopez
You have the constitutional right to hear from your accusers, not your victims. They are often but not always the same.
Charles Barnes
So you're a pedo scumfuck in prison for your sick fucking shit you're into… you had one job… not be into your sick shit while you're locked up. How difficult is that? But oh no, even without an internet connection, kids, physical media, photos, etc… this sick fucking asshole still found a way to be a sick fucking asshole.
This is proof that there is zero rehabilitation you can do for these people and the only thing they need is 2,000 fp/s lead poisoning.
He should have just did what eroge do and just say they are all 18+. That or claim they are all 100+ year old vampires or something. All the same this is pretty clear encroachment on Freedom of Speech. No minors were victimized to make this. Just this asshole's sick imagination.
Easton Flores
a drawing should never be illegal i dont give a fuck if it offends you. this is too jewish.
Landon Collins
Wasn't this guy ordered by the judge not to have porn? And his drawings of porn violated said order, placing him in contempt of court, regardless of their legality?
That question aside, ponder this, with some caveats:
Ethan Young
Dude if my kid in my house has fucking pictures like what this guy did and stories about him fucking a 6 year old, I would beat his ass senseless and maybe even kill him myself. Children under 12 are completely off limits and I don't give a fuck who you are. Little sick ass pictures aren't all this guy is into, you know he would hurt someone if he was free on the streets, don't act like this is some innocent guy who dindu nuffin. This guy is dangerous. Imagine now it's a nigger who's writing graphic stories about raping, killing and murdering a White person. You'd be like "awww it's just a picture" Fuck no, hang his ass too. You're in prison, this isn't some upstanding citizen with zero problems. This is some sick fuck who broke the law already. Guess what? You don't make your bed in prison or you're an asshole, they add extra punishments to you. There's no law about that either, schlomo lawfag but guess what, you're a piece of shit in prison and you have one fucking job - to try not to be a piece of fucking shit.
Checked. Then hopefully we can ban christfags and niggers who get triggered by dwawings and cawtoons. Sage for not news.
Kek. I'm sure they'll make it "conceived children" and "White Aryans only."
Welcome Ancapistan!
Wow, that's really cool! I hope they make evidence of more kike crimes illegal so we can't stop them!!1!
Brandon Butler
Best post.
David Butler
JUST THINK OF THE CHILDREN! DON'T CARE 1ST AMMENDMENT BACKED BY THE 2ND COME AND TAKE :)
Charles Hughes
No one is saying that. The man was arrested for molestation. People ARE saying that banning drawn pictures of non-real things that resemble immature human females is nonsensical because they hurt no one. It's thought crime, Chaim.
Adam Ward
Sorry, tautology. I meant physically immature.
Dylan Richardson
This. That guy deserves to be behind bars for a long time, but not for bad art.
Daniel Butler
You have no rights in prison. Hang all pedos especially the "virtuous" ones who draw picture and write fan-fic.
Levi Turner
The problem is that he was charged with crimes against minors for drawing pictures in Jail. While it should definitely be used as evidence to make the case he should not be set free for his original crime, setting precedent for jailing people for drawings is bad.
Grayson Sullivan
false.
COME AND TAKE YOU EARN THE 308
Ryder Morales
Not technically child porn since it's a Japanese man trapped in the body of a not-German little girl in an alternate universe. Checkmate.
Joshua Bennett
meant for
Elijah Smith
This is true. This is also why the left is pushing to allow prisoners to vote (democrat).
I agree. People who touch children should be hanged.
No, Chaim. This is thought crime. You can't hang a man for his thoughts. If you could kill a man for his thoughts, we'd all be swinging from nooses–everyone, without regard to race, religion, sex, or political ideology.
True… But if you fap to Tanya, you're gay, even though it's a girl. It's the Ranma paradox. If you fap to female Ranma, you're still gay. Did you know the artist tried to make Tanya intentionally unattractive specifically to prevent people from fapping to her and prevent doujins and porn fanart from being made? Didn't work, but he tried.
Dominic Lewis
I seriously have no idea why society keeps these sick fucks around.
exactly. it might be disgusting, but where is the victim? This is like incarcerating a tranny for "genital mutilation"
Juan Roberts
What is wrong with his face? Pedo genetics? I bet if someone made a neural network for detecting pedos, like they did with fag detector, it would work.
Liam Walker
In the cesspool that my nation is, you could take 15 year for drawing a swastika.
Cameron Lopez
sorry user, that would only detect the mentally retarded
I'm sorry but your country has been lost to the kikes. Does this make you mad? Good, because the only way to regain your country is by violence at this point.
Alexander Morris
ban all images, the reproduction of pictures will always be haram and an affront to Allah. it is is forbidden!!!!!
He got caught seeding The Grifter and everything else is just meant to rack up more charges while he's already there. (Thus far)Nobody has ever been sought out and charged with having smug anime pictures. Change my mind.
The Supreme Court has already ruled on this matter, in 2002. Virtual images cannot be subject to prior restraint, as the lack of a victim restrains the state's interest in abridging First Amendment defenses of the work. This was in response to a bullshit 1996 law banning loli nationwide.
that would be completely fine with our current system, and you know it. only recently have ((((media companies))) had to think twice about violent depictions of women/children… and "minorities" it's still ok to show white men being killed in sorts of horrible and graphic ways, it's also ok to show white men being violently sexual assaulted in mainstream holyjew pictures.
Spoiler that shit, please. This is coming from the genital gore and insane faggots guy.
Wyatt Wood
In my fantasy, I'm also implying that niggers have artistic and writing abilities so kek anyway
Kevin Myers
not an argument
Leo Cooper
neither is this
Jordan Morales
Well, actually, I think you could turn them in.
Tyler Martin
Actually, it is. The argument of course assumes that you know something of logic, as one of the predicates pertains to categorization of fallacies.
Ayden Gray
What kind of a fucking nigger says "hand-made picture"?
Aaron Nguyen
Listen here, mister. We don't like wut u drawled.
Ian Fisher
this is fucking absurd no, its just the prosecutors are full of shit. there's no fucking way michigan police go around busting ppl for hand-drawn depictions of sexualized children. i simply don't believe it. i would completely agree with him losing good-time or jail privileges or whatever for having obvious contraband, but saying this violated criminal statute is fucking absurd
Essentially, the argument of Ashcroft was that the possession of something that could psychologically induce someone to a crime itself constitutes committing a crime.
As an example, if you owned alcohol, and alcohol increased the likelihood of you beating people up, then you could be guilty of a crime relating to beating people up just because you owned alcohol, if congress made such a law.
Caleb Ortiz
Youtube (and the law) lets this shit stay up, straight up promoting terrorism. I totally get that it's degenerate as fuck but… If your going to kill free speech over something like this you know Holocaust realism (((denial))) is hated even more than loli by many, well if you can ban one form of free speech on some bogus grounds like 'it encourages pedo's to offend' then could you not ban anti Jew speech because it would lead to another genocide. And well Holocaust realism is illegal in more nations than loli.
Charles Turner
Can we please just fucking kill him at that point. you let him out and a kid will get fucked. He is a criminal already so just end it and save me tax money on those (((prisons))) nigger
