Does anyone else find this anti-city, pro-trades meme suspicious? I have some serious problems with this...

Does anyone else find this anti-city, pro-trades meme suspicious? I have some serious problems with this. Even if it is not shilled kikery, I think it is potentially a very serious mistake and strategic error.

Cities are trade centers. They are, to a large extent, where a nation (and people's) wealth is generated. Economic and social power radiate out from cities. Are there exceptions in society and economics? Yes, so lets not get autistic about things. This is by and large the case. Cities were built, largely by white and asian civilizations. Rome. Carthage. Large cities make successful civilizations. One of the things we like to laugh about blacks, is their stunning lack of cities.

It is my opinion that cities should NOT be given up. We are in a war, where the enemy's goal is suppression or extinction of white culture, politics, and economic power. Our ancestors (unless you are descended purely from 20th century or later immigrants) built these cities. They are our heritage and our key to power and growth. Letting the enemy take them over and flood them with population replacement units, is a huge, huge strategic error. These population replacement units then have control of the levers of power, and all the other magnified advantages that living in cities grants. This ties into……..

As someone who comes from a pretty down on it's luck area of the US, I was exposed to the pressure to go into trades from a relatively young age. I have seen trades get shilled here and across much of the right-wing internet for years now. Let me tell you, for a big lot of you, this is a big mistake. NUMBER ONE, trades do not pay nearly as well as they are meme'd to. You can make 55k pretty quickly, sure, if you are better than some of the retards that go into it (and there are a lot of those). Thing is, it maxxes out fast, and you will have to work a lot of overtime. Probably 10+ hours at least, per week. This also has a very negative effect on your body. Most trades are physically demanding, and not in a good or "manly" way. You won't come home buff and shredded as fuck to a hot country wife wearing cowboy boots that wants to fuck your brains out. You'll be tired as fuck from the 12+ hour day you just put in, and either skinny as fuck or fat as shit depending on what you consume to keep you alive.

This is why I believe it is a serious tactical mistake to urge young, intelligent whites to abandon cities and go into trades. By doing so, we are directly ceding, without a fight, whatever social and economic power we have left. The left, the globalists, the jews, whatever you want to call them, their agenda was not to fill the countryside with pajeets to make them all welders. No. They are shunting whites OUT of professions that give us power, namely doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. They are forcing us out of our own cities, so that we will be poor and dependent on the kindness of the third worlders they have imported.

Don't fall for this. Don't hand the enemy your birthright on a silver platter. Don't hand them the high ground in the culture wars. Don't hand them the ability to make money hand over fist while you slave away the rest of your days.

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bump for a solid op

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thanks user. I just want people to see what I'm getting at here.

Are there problems with cities? Yes, absolutely. But we cannot deny the economic advantages that occupying the cities has. I urge the people who spread the "flee the cities asap" and the "join a trade you'll never regret it" memes to seriously reconsider what they are doing.

The major push here is to distance economic success from academic approval. Academia is about to be collapsed, and we don't want young anons to suffer during this period of uncertainty. Once Academia is reformed the major applied sciences will become trades. Once the trades are full of smart (and dilligent, this is the important part) anons, new cities will be build, and the old cities abandoned.
This is a very audacious plan, I can understand your concern.

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Whites who live in urban area are more likely to be liberal you are never going to recolonize SanFransisco or anything like that

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you mean fake FIAT currencies without producing anything worthwhile due to zero farmland and dependent on workers that make the lights go on in the nights and the shit flush down the toilet?
That kind of lie meme that nobody needs?

Oh yeah, totally a meme bro, enjoy your city and (((wealth))) and prozac while I sleep with my window open and get lulled to sleep by blackbirds, nightingales and sweet fresh air.

Like the economy? Didn't that happen last September? or the one before that?

(((pro-trade)))

I became a history teacher instead. Way easier workload and I get paid to be a subversive fascist by the state.

Did you pay for the computer your posting on with a sack of corn?

Because every big civilisation had cities doesn't mean they aren't tumors on earth. Just go to your local park and look around yourself. Stoners, niggers and other subhuman walk around there. Cities are filled to the brim with degenerates, Socialists, retards and other kind of human trash you have to meet on a daily basis. There is a reason, why socialism and all left leaning politics comes from cities - they are disconnected from nature. I suppose you haven't read MK. Also the air in cities is shit, food is junk and water is undrinkable.
There is literally no downside to living in villages, maybe only commuting to school or work.

As for trades - the main advantage is that they will always be needed. You will never have to go to take neetbux from the system because plumbing/electricity/anything else always breaks. People need trades to live. Also yes, they are hard and demanding, yet they pay well, very well if you are good. Working with your hands is nothing to be ashamed of. At least you won't get fat by sitting in an office for 8 hours a day.

Also, next time do some lurking before you post. If you are an user who asks questions, lurk, otherwise your post smells.

I hate to break it to you, but cities existed way longer than the current economic paradigm.

No, but that doesn't make things right.

I hate to break it to you too, enjoy your misery.

Cities were, and still are, the biggest shit holes you can live in. There is a reason why the rich always owned cottages outside the city walls, inside mother nature's forests.

You didn't read my post. There is a reason (((they))) dump these people in cities first. It is because they need whites to flee and gain the economic power for themselves.


Pretty safe bet I've been here longer than you user, drop the pretense.

This is just sad.

Or a penthouse right in the heart like Trump

If you live in a city then the statistics are in my favor.
But enjoy your suicide.

Wow, 4 posts in and the astroturfing cuckchanner already devolved into redditspacing.

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Yeah I wish I could live in the hustle and bustle and make so much money, of course I live like a monk that's a given since I'm just a lowly villagefag.
Brb creating empty vapid startup and scam some people to fill the void in my heart.

And there is a reason the rich still inhabited cities. Namely, to make money, and control the direction society and the country took.


this. It's like these people completely lack all nuance.

Lol you havn't seen the suicide stats in the last decade, have you? Rural and suburban by far leads the way, percentage wise. I grew up out there, painkillers are no joke.

You really are new, aren't you?

6dc40d Your posts are garbage. Shill harder fagit.
adba7d Slow the fuck down sperg. This isn't twitter.

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Still better than anything 86b5f0 has contributed

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Cities have always been population sinks, where excess men get shipped off to in order to maintain the optimal people/land ratio for a good lifestyle.

Rome was built on swords and plows. The NSDAP implemented land reforms to protect family farms and constructed garden cities to reduce population density and bring people back in contact with the land. Even the US was built as an Agrarian state.

Wtf.
Maybe you're just a retard then.
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You're joking right? Gain economic power from what? The niggers or stones who produce nothing? The whites fleeing are the ones producing shit. Nor the kikes, nor the niggers. Also, they already own the banks, there is no need for them to gain even more wealth, since they can just print more. Watch TGSNT.
Reddit spacing is a real thing you subverting kike. Fuck off back to where you came from.

Yeah, getting a job where you work with your hands is "shilled kikery". Pay 100k so you can get some shitty piece of paper that guarantees you nothing. Cities are overrated anyway, let the hordes have them. Be self sufficient, stop paying into the machine.

When the retard has nothing left, he resorts to squirting his autism-juice all over the thread and generally making a massive commotion

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* Not the kikes, not the niggers.

And everything costs more, often to an extant where you make less of a wage in proportion. Plus you probably won't ever own any property in a big city.
Sometimes, sometimes not. Its up to you to run the calculation. Is it better to spend 8+ years making negative money and then spend the next decade paying off old debt before finally in your late thirties starting to actually make money? Or is it better to make a little money and then make more money as you get older, never have that debt, and have plenty of work experience. Plus many trades can transition into engineering jobs with training upgrades that are much cheaper than an initial university degree
Ive heard it argued that total wages earned over a lifetime is not very different between doctor and plumber, but that probably varies with location and economic climate.

From TRADE, you dense motherfucker. That is where wealth comes from; surplus value and utility generated by TRADE. Which cities facilitate, by virtue of not being spaced the fuck out. You people's grasp of history is laughable. Whites produced the most massive and successful cities in the world and were filled by the government with niggers and spics, ergo to Zig Forums, cities have always been bad.

These anons get it, either listen to them, or fuck off. We don't want you here.

cry some more you little bitch. There is always some gigantic autist like you to ruin things.

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Cities attract those types of people because they are large and generally successful. The cities of the early 1900s were mostly nice. You had some real nasty places like Berlin, but overall a lot of them were decent. Liberals then hijacked cities and exploited the worthless shitters that showed up for gibs. Shitskins, stoners, welfare babies, etc all flock to where it is successful. If the major cities fall, they'll all run to the more successful places right away.

Let's keep a tally of the assblasted urbanite shills we can count in this thread. So far we have two.
6dc40d
adba7d
NYUniggers are really angry because someone figured out that city dwellers purchasing power is orders of magnitude lower. We can expect a lot of this kind of frustration going forward.

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this is exactly what I'm saying, but people like this bleep bloop faggot obviously have some mental block from hearing opposing opinions.

Pray tell what exactly is it am I shilling for?

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I'm from between Memphis and Nashville. Memphis is a city, not a town, not a couple houses on a hill, because it facilitated trade with the surrounding areas. Same goes for St. Louis, New Orleans, New York, fuck, everything except Houston really. They serve a useful function. Idiots like you want to abandon that function so you can go live with your autism in peace.

Also polite sage, but if trends continue. trades will be very profitable in 10 years or so. Right now they are still doing alright because they're at this state where a lot of older people are putting off retirement, or going back into retirement. Once those people finally retire, or die, things are going to change drastically. The younger generation who is supposed to replace most of these tradesmen aren't joining trades. Right now, there's still enough of the last generation to keep wages low. But it's definitely going to be a crisis at some point, and wages for trades are more than likely to go up up very quickly. But it's not going to happen for a while. With trades, now you'll generally get some alright jobs, but there's still enough labor supply that wages haven't jump up yet. But, like I said, if trends continue, it'll happen.

Yeah and the jews "hijacked" Christianity, too.

Nigger, the ADL was formed because an urban kike who ran a sweatshop that employeded children tried to raped a white girl and killed her in the process and then tried to blame it on niggers which the judge and jury didn't believe and hung the fucker.

Yeah it's good that there were niggers and jews in the glorious cities, bastions against degeneracy and co.

BLEEEP BLEEP MOTHERFUCKER.

Bump, went into the trades in my early 20's and now in my late 20's I'm back in school, pursuing STEM, 4.0 and loving it. Nice OP.

idk, 300sq foot (((shared living spaces))), thoughtless conversation, the right/left dialect, racemixing… Who gives a shit you're terrible and unthinking posters with no regard for quality discussion. You post dumb chinese cartoons to contextualize what amounts to Zig Forums-tier twitter posts. This is all shill behavior.
< NIGGER GO HOME.

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My first post itt was telling OP what a terrible idea it was, up your meds lol. Heres some more anime just for (you)

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No, cities are lost. The cities you are referring to are nothing like the cities of old. Areas with commerce and hubs are available in small towns, and work more effectively that way.
Anons in cities are powerless. Should shit kick off they are in the heart of an urban jungle that provides nothing for them except many enemies.
Kikes are the ultimate power structure within the cities and they have been shipping in every type of mindless non-white and brainwashed white they possibly can to live within and on the outskirts.
Brainwashing campaigns are abudent in metropolitan areas, you learn absolutely nothing about survival by staying in those areas and only learn how to rely on the teet of a false society that provides everything for you.
They are had. There is no resistance that can be mounted from within the cities at this point and whites can't function at their prime within. You act as if we are in the very beginning of the pozzing and genocide of our race, we aren't. Some areas are lost at this point and can only be reclaimed when the opportunity to shows itself. That opportunity isn't now.
But push for whites to stay in the burning fields instead of regrouping outside because those fields used to be nice and at one point sewed great harvests. I am sure the fire on all sides of them can be reclaimed.
I can't stop whites from making poor choices, can't stop you from pushing for whites to make poor choices, but I made my choice to leave and since then have learned so much. I can hunt, fish, my children are happier and I have met others like me that understand the dangers we face. Good luck doing any of that in a city.

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You're supposed to disagree creatively, there's zero fucking value in agreement if your posts are of such poor quality.


Jews have to have the last word even when there's nothing to say.

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All these summerfags will have rude awakenings when they finish their schooling.
And besides being newfags they are also obvious underage spergs who think they will implement a national revival with their shitty degree in sociology. They don't even know what trades are, or how the world of employment is nowadays.

It's also a pro-cosmopolitan viewpoint, as is op, so this kind of posting is likely kike shilling and not just summerfaggotry.

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But WHAT am I shilling?

you literally havn't said shit though. I guess you're better than the bleep bloop sperg but that's not saying much.

I don't really care about whatever argument you're having but neck yourself.

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Butthurt faggot still butthurt, eh? Grow the fuck up and get a Man's job. Though it's too late for you isn't it? Already traded the best fucking years of your life for a giant pile of debt owned by kikes and chinks didn't you?

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I don't really care about why ever you are so triggered I just want you to enjoy these

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I never blooped you faggot. Have the smog and "additives" in the water calcified your everything?

Must be the effect of constant traffic.

But I'm in zero debt user, community college+state schools (in urban areas lel, not college towns) are a great thing to take advantage of.


A man's job is to make money and provide for his family. I'll be doing that well into old age, while your broke down ass will probably die at 60. Good job.

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You've been here two months you reddit piece of shit, and you've learned nothing. Lurk 4 years, it's not a fucking meme.

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I have stated the precise goal of dissuading young anons from wasting their time and money with marxist academia. If that's not enough for you to grasp the point, perhaps more of that marxist academia is in order for you?

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Its just some nonsensical posturing and virtue signaling over inane bullshit.
type bullshit.
Its a byproduct of the mods preventing us from talking about more important things, both on here and on cuckchan, so naturally the conversation degenerates, which was their intention.


You fucking idiot, I live in rural appalachia and we are getting that scum exported here, the issue here isn't population density, its the kikes.


Boomer talk for "break your back for ZOG".

It's amusing how these newfaggots are so assblasted over anime isn't it?

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Wow that's deep maaaan

Only genuine newfags think it is a) redditspacing b) bad. You people are sad.

Where the fuck have I talked about marxist academia you gigantic faggot? If anything, I want the colleges gone. My post was a bout cities. Stop trying to shift the goalposts to cover your autism.

That the ideal, a pair of waifus

Cities are population sinks.
Cities might be economically more attractive but are also infinitely more expensive, a 200 - 300k income in Jew York get you a standard of living comparable to something 40 - 50k get you outside of a big urban center.

Most big cities not only in Murica but the whole West are lost. Both demographically and because they only exist as places where itinerants gather to maximize their economic output.
Nothing short of neutron bombardment and recolonisation could reclaim San Franciso, Los Angeles, Paris, London or Austin.

More importantly, cities are always dominated by small, compact cliques who operate without restraint or social control. There is a reason why the Jew is a creature of the urban enviroments.

The problem with the college meme is that EVERYONE is told they need to do the college meme. This leads to it being over saturated and having an overabundance of workers in debt from school, desperate for work.

A conspiracy to push college seems to be a higher probability to get people trapped in debt slavery, concentrated in cities, all the while driving down the wages for all technical meme jobs.
All the while with open borders and 3rd worlders flooding into the country seeking those high paying meme jobs everyone else is going to college for. Of course there is the anti-white Affirmative Action also ensuring that you, whitey, are the very last to be considered for a meme job.

Meanwhile there is a void left from a generation who all went to college in trades.

Psyop trying to pass off as anti psyop. Anons, get familiar with the Club of Rome. One of their new memes they are spreading, after the failed disaster of population control via abortion/birth control/anti-fertility memetics, is now sovereign city-states.
(Link here: www_onellameadows_org/wp-content/userfiles/Limits-to-Growth-digital-scan-version.pdf) A reminder to all that you wont make it if you don't own your own land. The solution to all our problems starts from our own decisions then how we organize, not the inverse.

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Yes and?

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Nope, I'm on an even higher level.

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Don't talk about anime, they use as a fracture point and derailing tactic. Stick to the thread's subject.

Ug, this deserves it's on thread, user.

The whole college meme is about inducing debt slavery while forcing young people into marxist indoctrination camps. See fucking evergreen, pic related. Yes, I'm the user who made that thread, who was deprogramming evergreeners. I'm working on setting up an organization to do far fucking more on a national level now.

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the three nails as the three nails of christ?

high iq post.

fuck if I know, I made a thread once to see if I could get any good conspiracy info on them.

I've been in your other threads, OP. You are a faggot. Couldn't you have bumped your last one? Are you new?

The only thing I find suspicious is your intentions.
The colleges that produce the most (((progressive))) and kike following members of the white race? The ones that leave you in immense debt to kikes while you spew their communist lies? Degrees require you to go through classes designed to teach you to hate our own race, our culture, our lands and history. They leave us in massive financial debt with no guarantee of employment. They shill for whites to get degrees that have no prospects other than some S.T.E.M. fields, which they have made sure to kike up with extras and even alter completely to make it S.T.E.(((A))).M. now. And don't forget the forced (((diversity))) within the classes, curriculum and schools.
The only other area that is pozzed and designed to totally break down whites and their identities to a mush of braindeath are your precious (((cities))).
You are shilling for the remaining whites to line up in kike controlled obstacle course and programming centers in order to what? Make more Antifa faggots? Get whites to live in family unfriendly areas? Experience programming more often? What benefit comes from this? The faggots that are the most vocal about their own demise and the demise of their brothers and sisters made the exact same choices you are trying to sell.
Are you alone, one of the few redpilled people in your city and/or college and want more? There is a reason you are alone. Everyone around you is getting irradiated with propaganda and mentally dropping like flies. Bringing more whites in just increases the number of brain damaged. Or are you threatened by whites rejecting a system and area designed to kill who they are and need as many as possible to jump on the conveyor belt of "good goyim" choices and come out the other side faggots, trannies and zogbots?
What benefit are you selling aside from "more money" which is debatable at best? I can neatly label the risks we face in your plan all day long.

dubs say now is a good time as any brb

user, I did not say "go to colleges", and to be honest, I am disappointed that is where you went with it. I WANT a return to the social order of the late 1800's, at minimum. That means almost no money making profession needs college, trade or otherwise. Most "white collar" jobs nowadays don't need it, and colleges do a very shitty job at providing training even when it is required.

Cities as environments are among the least natural - it shouldn't be any surprise that they give rise to a different type of man - the liberal bug-man. Modern cities are absolutely no place for families and no man of European descent should ever aspire to set foot in one. We should absolutely cede the cities to our enemies and then stop sending electricity, food and water.

Specify the plan then. Ignore both trade schools and colleges? But become doctors and lawyers?
How?
Meme yourself a doctorate?
When you advocate whites enter fields that absolutely require college degrees to legally perform and then act as if I am the one that just magically pulled "colleges" out of my ass it seems like kikery, but explain.
What is your solution?

These two points don't actually come from Zig Forums, /new/, Zig Forums proper, these are actually absorbed into general Chan culture from the olden days of /b/ (Bart, I'm piss), and passed onto here through osmosis.

I live in the countryside now and I prefer it, but the big city is a White invention, the hatred of cities is not with the urban area itself but all the niggers, spics, kikes, etc, etc that moved there since it's perfect for a rootless cosmopolitan.

This is a bit odd and has to be broken down:

1) Trades 10 years ago paid much better than now, the trades meme spilled into IRL and a lot of people found out these were paying well due to medium demand with low offer
2) Much like STEM being pushed back in the day since it was percieved as being less political (it barely is nowadays), trades was separate from academia, it was a white lie to push for it because while a this was the main reason, it used to pay very well
3) It's easy to tell people to become an electrician, that's easy to explain… than to occupy a position of power like finance, law and politics… or at least low power like military or police.

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I absolutely detest cities, always have and always will. They're full of shitskins, far too crowded, and obnoxiously noisy. Perhaps they're less shitty outside of the US but they're definitely garbage here. I'd feel like necking myself if I lived in one.

And by that I mean specify how we magically return to not needing degrees. Your idea is sitting in an area of fantasy at the moment. "Just change it to be better and the problem goes away" is what I am reading, which isn't how anything works and is selling a false transformation that is going to lead nowhere. But explain how living in cities and denying trades, but not going to college, but being a doctor is going to work.

Re-contextualizing your /b/-tier OP made this thread way more fun for me. Now your argument to (((live in cities goy))) will be conflated with (((go to college goy))) The sad thing is, this isn't actually moving the goalposts, it's the mechanism by which you keep good goys paying GREAT rent.

I have my thoughts together because my air, my water, and my land are clear of garbage. You are a fucking mess because your air, your water, and your 400sq ft cuckshed are a disaster. You fucks aren't getting this board back. Go huff some brake dust, turkroach

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I am not going innawoods while niggers drive mercedes and fuck the young white girls other cucks have left behind.

Pyongyang in North Korea comes to mind, it may look deserted but it's a privilege to live there. No niggers and spics and bums on their streets. We in the west are so brain washed by kikes we think city slums are normal and sheeit

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we are already transitioning to not needing degrees. We need to push this further and harder. If anything, we need to put massive, concentrated pressure on HR people. They are the gateways to these jobs, they, by and large, set the insane requirements. We need to make it widely known, in our culture, that degrees for the vast majority of things are useless.


No, it's entirely possible and it is already happening. Everyone under 40 knows this already. Even a select few boomers are catching on. Breaking this meme will open the floodgates to those professions.


Why'd you leave the thread captain sperg?


Exactly!

Not even remotely an argument. Currency does not have to be fiat.

If you give up on your urban areas your civilzation is over. Hicks from the sticks are retarded to think a bumb fuck town of 200 is relevent. Rome as an empire isnt anything without the city of Rome itself.

Mods are kill.

so
humans live in dwellings
these dwellings can be organized for efficiency

we group them together and form a city
cities of different sizes get different names but really theyre all cities

at the center of this city there should be a square
on one side of the square the government center
on another the cultural center
and commercial buildings like shops and resaurants line the square

the buildings around the square are part of the inner ring of blocks around the city center
around this inner ring comes an outer ring of blocks
around this outer ring of blocks we should have a clear physical delineation of the city, an outline
be it a wall or a fence or series of posts, it is important for humans to know where the city ends

around the city building limit we have a ring of parks and green space, including farms even
this green space should also be at least one block wide

outside the green ring we put infrastructure like highways

we should make sure the city blocks are not too big to impede pedestrain traffic, no bigger than about five hundred yards to a side, this way the whole city should be able to be traversed on foot.
Being able to walk across the city in a reasonable amount of time
and the green ring of parks is always in walking distance

All the neccesities for a comfortable life should be within such a city
And if one needs more city we can either build higher, or go underground, or build another city with its own seperate green ring

That would be the end of sprawl and the result should be more similar to the way things were before the jews did all the urban planning

Dumbfuck with no idea of history, The men who created themselves said Rome was an idea, not a city

This.

At first I thought Pyongyang was a total shit hole it was so different, empty streets, no people and then I came to understand, if it is a privilege to live in a modern advanced city life would be completely different. No traffic jams, no creeps on the subway of even in buses. The number one reason I refuse to use public transportation is due tot he scumbag factor involved.

City centers are very nice….. if it was only WHITE CIVILIZED PEOPLE occupying those spaces, call it New Elysium City.

Laughable idealism on the same level of civnat.

all large cities should be razed, fuck the UN mega cities plans

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Way to be strong on your position kike. Realizing that nobody is falling for your shit, so now trades are ok? Go fuck yourself, Zig Forumsacks aren't stupid.

No they didnt. Rome existed for hundreads of years before becoming an empire then the common man didnt have any idea it was an empire until about 100 years after Augustus. Rome wasnt an ideal, im curiousto know in your mind what was this high minded ideal of Rome? Or do you get this from that movie gladiator?

El oh el.

The urbanite rabbit is fighting for its life, the rural hound merely for a meal.
Enjoy your thread though.