Trump ready for US shutdown to last 'for years'

Brayden Turner
Brayden Turner

bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46763940

US President Donald Trump has said he is prepared for a partial shutdown of the US government - now entering its third week - to last years.
After meeting top Democrats, he also said he could declare a national emergency to bypass Congress and build a US-Mexico border wall.
[…] he acknowledged in response to a journalist's question that he had threatened to keep federal agencies closed for years if necessary.
"I did say that, absolutely I said that," said Mr Trump in the executive mansion's Rose Garden. "I don't think it will but I am prepared."
Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer told reporters: "We told the president we needed the government open. He resisted.
"In fact he said he'd keep the government closed for a very long period of time. Months or even years."

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John Young
John Young

Fuckin BASED

Dominic Hall
Dominic Hall

Does he actually think that federal employees are going to wait even a month without pay? Does he not understand how bills work? Is anyone actually stupid enough to buy this?

Lucas Rodriguez
Lucas Rodriguez

Does he actually think
"No"

Anthony Rodriguez
Anthony Rodriguez

Does he not understand how bills work?
He is a pampered billionaire with a decaying brain so I would say now.

Gabriel White
Gabriel White

All the CIA plants from reddit now all of a sudden sweating and screaming orange man bad

Easton Wilson
Easton Wilson

Thank fucking God. When the reckoning comes we will let him live for his contribution to society.

Mason Jenkins
Mason Jenkins

Nazbol is when you suck the orange cock of an opportunist billionaire with onset Alzheimers

Gavin Lee
Gavin Lee

This. While it's a partial shutdown with a few departments having their funding secured, a whole lot of people are on furlough.

Jeremiah Martin
Jeremiah Martin

Based Trump accelerating the revolutionary potential of the American Proletariat.
Queerbol Gang

James Gutierrez
James Gutierrez

criticizing Trump even slightly for making a bad decision makes you an "orange man bad" lib

Liam Howard
Liam Howard

Do you realise how many people are working in jobs in which the gov is the paymaster?
The only reason essential services are even in effect is because after the flurry of shutdowns in Obamas tenure some precautions were put in place to secure funding for the foreseeable future

But once that first set of bills is unable to be payed once that first rent is missed we will see things deteriorate quick

Adam Harris
Adam Harris

Based, let's shut the rest of it down, too.

Wyatt Reyes
Wyatt Reyes

The federal government is far and away the largest employer in the United States. Them not being able to pay their rent is a SHtF scenario. That is why this nonsense will not last long.

Easton Jones
Easton Jones

The federal government is far and away the largest employer in the United States
More specifically, the Department of Defense is the largest employer. #2 is Wal-Mart.

Nicholas Clark
Nicholas Clark

criticizing Trump when he is shutting down the government
Yeah, go back to reddit

Colton Wright
Colton Wright

Real talk, how prepared are my fellow burgers for the potential collapse of the state?

Zachary Martin
Zachary Martin

i don't know what a government shutdown actually entails
fixed your post for you

Cameron Mitchell
Cameron Mitchell

t. social imperialist

Anthony Phillips
Anthony Phillips

<t. /r/the_donald
go back retard
once that first rent is missed we will see things deteriorate quick
sure but which side? Will Trump cave on his wall or will the Dems agree to pay for it? It takes two to shut down a government.

Ian Thomas
Ian Thomas

Trumps already literally said to put blame for the shutdown at his feet so I assume he will need to cuck out to break the deadlock

Luis Sanchez
Luis Sanchez

sure but which side? Will Trump cave on his wall or will the Dems agree to pay for it?
Who gives a shit? What is one silly pork barrel project? All that matters is how long the lockout lasts.

Camden Long
Camden Long

If someone in the Trump administration stole this Obama-era proposal and actually did it, how many aneurysms would the debt porkies have?
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Hunter Brooks
Hunter Brooks

This is going to be one epic year for us

Alexander Powell
Alexander Powell

That's what I heard last year and the year before that

Aaron Thomas
Aaron Thomas

Does the shutdown stop America's imperialist agenda, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, the defence department, or does it only stop the civil services from functioning?

Bentley Gomez
Bentley Gomez

Only civil services

Kevin Young
Kevin Young

They gonna get paid retroactively anyway, unless the government finds a way to fuck them up in that regard as well.

Nathan Anderson
Nathan Anderson

So how would one theoretically shut down the police, prisons, armed forces etc? It seems so flagrantly contemptuous of the people that this is how the American government functions.

Justin Williams
Justin Williams

But once that first set of bills is unable to be payed once that first rent is missed we will see things deteriorate quick
That's the time where a compromise is usually found.

Elijah Sullivan
Elijah Sullivan

armed forces
Never.

the police, prisons
Privatise.

Kevin Clark
Kevin Clark

Can this be the one thing we all, across both sides of the aisle, agree on? We need a good, hard reset.

Colton Nelson
Colton Nelson

No
As a victim of American "liberation and democratisation" I honestly want to see that piece of shit nation burn

Christopher Scott
Christopher Scott

Please go back to that qanon board, please.

Gabriel Clark
Gabriel Clark

no revolution until I have revenge for my people!
No, user, you are the reactionary.

Landon Smith
Landon Smith

Got any examples for my Cringe Compilation?

Quality.

I don't think it's what we need, but I think it's the only thing people would accept in terms of change.

Wyatt Hernandez
Wyatt Hernandez

It wont matter this month when they have to pay their bills or become homeless.
That isn't even accounting for the amount of people who are going to starve once the food stamp money runs out
It's gonna be a fucking riot season

Jacob James
Jacob James

confusing justice with revenge
epic

Zachary Ward
Zachary Ward

bean counter riots
I wanna see this.

Benjamin Price
Benjamin Price

this is the future anarchists want

Cameron Long
Cameron Long

confusing justice with revenge
You have no self-awareness, do you?

Gavin Hughes
Gavin Hughes

This thread is fun but then you realize that Dems are going to give in in like a week or two, tops.

Gavin Morgan
Gavin Morgan

Yeah, I doubt that this shit will last long enough to be meaningful, but then occasionally very stupid people in positions of political power do very stupid things. Wouldn't it be nice if Trump and the rest really did wear their idiot hats just a little too long?

Nicholas Cruz
Nicholas Cruz

What a coincidence; as a domestic victim of the United States, I want to see that state burn.
Internationalism?

Adam Torres
Adam Torres

As a victim of American "liberation and democratisation" I
What country?

Jose Ward
Jose Ward

kill thousands and thousands of people
get away scots free and celebrated as heroes
literally have a plan to invade Den Hague if through some odd circumstance an American is actually accused to crimes against humanity
<if you want justice, you will be just as bad as them and you are a reactionary to boot

Ayden Gray
Ayden Gray

Justice is literally just revenge sanctioned by some authority. Killing bad people doesn't un-kill the people they killed or improve anything about the world in and of itself.
literally have a plan to invade Den Hague if through some odd circumstance an American is actually accused to crimes against humanity
That's what defence is for. You can't enact """Justice""" for something a person hasn't done yet.

Brody Cox
Brody Cox

What is one silly pork barrel project?
My insight probably isn't worth much here, but the Trump Wall seems to be a lot more than a pork project. The NYT, WaPo and CNN are mostly selling it as a debate over a pork project. Fox News about the same (except as a needed pork project for security from disease rattled immigrants)…

I think this is one of those unique situations the news ain't getting right. It seems it's more of monument issue, like the confederate ones except with none of the cultural heritage bullshit. Everyone I talk to seems to visualize it as a sort of Mount Rushmore to Trump, Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh. I mean few people believe it adds more to security than actual tech investment. It's sort of like Stanley's Cup for being the big winner of 2016 for Trump's dwindling base, and a fascist monument to his opposition. Then a sort of appeasement to his ego for everyone else. I'm pretty sure not even Dick Cheney, with his machine, could of made Trump wall work. It'll easily be politically weaponized against him and his platform if ground ever breaks. He would be smart not to die on this hill, and try to save face before he marks himself too hard for the 2020 election. His base wouldn't abandon him if a wall didn't get built, and Mexico was never going to pay for it to begin with. His base knows that. I don't think it's working in anyone's favor, but new blood democrats… Especially if he gets the wall. Shit he already looks real bad to a lot of people who are about to be very politically active and soaking up the internet with content for 2020.

Logan Parker
Logan Parker

I would say that it is simpler than that. Trump has accomplished absolutely fuck-all of what he promised during his campaign. He ran on his reputation as a deal-maker, which is something he wrote about, and he has not been able to get any concessions even though his own party controlled both the Supreme Court and Congress. His own cabinet was full of more drama than his old reality TV show was. Right now, with the 2020 election in sight, Trump looks like a guy who get get jack shit done, a clown who is in way over his head.

He needs to win this wall argument in order to have any chance whatsoever in 2020. Whatever banker-fellating intersectional war monger the Democrats run against him is going to run as the "competent" choice, and in a shitty economic situation that is going to be really appealing. That is why ☘️McConnell☘️ and the other Republican leaders are going all-out to get the wall. If they don't get it, it is incredibly likely that the Democrats will sweep both the legislative and executive branches after being total jabronies not four years earlier. That is why they are willing to endure the slings and arrows of keeping the government shut down: if they lose the wall they lose everything.

Nathan Smith
Nathan Smith

Can any american explain why the fuck nobody gets paid when there is a government shutdown?

Kayden Flores
Kayden Flores

Because Porkies run the nation. Not the people.

Josiah Harris
Josiah Harris

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Grayson Perry
Grayson Perry

US government is the largest employer in the country. Furloughs are a way to squeeze the workers and get them to cave/accept something they don't like. Basic coercion really.

Landon Ward
Landon Ward

I could've gotten deeper into debt but I have none and I have very little requirements to be happy. Combine that with a huge network of friends and family around the Earth and I should be set.

Anthony Diaz
Anthony Diaz

Also I was never a fan of society as it currently is. I think im flexibile enough for the transition

Austin Cruz
Austin Cruz

I don't think the dems can sweep. Too many people have walked away. Trump and the Republicans have enough psychotic boomers and pepes to get votes. With how many candidates are going to join the field on the dem side, voters are going to get even more alienated when even kind of progessives like Warren and Gabbard get axed. Trump is most likely going to be a 2 termer.

The best case scenario would be something like Bernie starting or joining a pro-labor party and running independent with some other people. His popularity means he won't need to join the democrat debates (where he'll get sidelined anyway) and just stream the 3rd party debates online or something. This absolutely won't happen though since he's proven to be loyal to the dems or at least being extorted by them. Instead he'll get cheated again and drive more people awy from voting. This will solidify the Republicans' control of the government since neither Bernie or anub6of similar popularity will propose an alternative. It'll be up to the people to organize and give up on electoralism.

Elijah Anderson
Elijah Anderson

So?

Ryder Gutierrez
Ryder Gutierrez

a pro-labor party
3rd party
Until FPtP is taken care of, that won't work. I assume you mean a formally organized entryist caucus inside the Dems.

Agreed Bernie is both the only burger right now who could unite the left, and sadly too soft. The guy should've been using these 4 years in court to purge corruption from the DNC and root out their machine's operatives from electoral politics, rather than passively selling warmongering Russia nonsense and prattling about a federal-level single-payer medical system that can't happen without basically the entire roster of politicians being purged.

Ryder Moore
Ryder Moore

Because federal spending is determined by a budget passed by Congress every year. If there is no budget then there is no money allocated to spending. Only the military and certain other organizations have funding allocated to them in perpetuity.

Hudson Gomez
Hudson Gomez

Too many people have walked away.
I hope that you are right.

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Kayden White
Kayden White

No, but they don't need to because they're disposable. This war was lost in 1981 when Reagan fired the Air Traffic Controllers. If any -any- government employee strikes Trump will waste no time replacing them with a private contractor. Republicans have wanted to privatize ATC for a long time, and have no qualms with privatizing the TSA. Welfare distribution can be handled by third party companies instead of government offices while law enforcement can be done by private companies like Pinkerton (which predates most of the alphabet soup agencies anyway).

The only workers Trump cannot fire without repercussions are Amtrak employees, because Republicans can't afford to be against Amtrak as their own districts will vote against them over it as they have done since Amtrak's inception in 1970. Also since Amtrak's employees use private sector Unions (BLET, UTU) and not public sector ones (the SEIU), if they call a strike then it'd quickly escalate into a nationwide rail strike shutting down America's economy - even if Trump orders railroaders back to work they can engage in work slowdowns and rolling strikes as is the case in France. By the way, Pinkerton itself got started working for RRs to bust Unions and failed despite having the full support of the US government. Mass striking on this level is completely untenable and Congress wouldn't accept it, this is their red line.

Such is why Republicans have been so willing to entertain this sort of idiocy, because it gives them an excuse to privatize large portions of the government. Democrats will go with it in the name of bipartisanship. It's only a problem if trains stop running.

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Easton Rogers
Easton Rogers

Until FPtP is taken care of, that won't work.
You would think but Bernie plus a few left-adjacent candidates could potentially outdo the democrats if they actually tried. The real obstacle IMO is the bureaucratic nonsense the democrats and replublicans would do with the people they already have in the federal and local government. Shit like denying the party the ability to cast votes in the electoral college. But the thing is while they'd probably get stonewalled out of winning the election, it would put the ruling class in the position to either legitimize an actual opposition party or to show the American people once and for all that they don't live in a democratic society. Even if they didn't have the numbers to actually win, they'd pull enough of the votes (probably a plurality) that it would force the issue of whether or not to recognize the votes. They'd almost certainly do better than the democratic nominee, which would turn the democrat into the spoiler candidate and flip the script.

Noah Nguyen
Noah Nguyen

Yet ATC was not s computerised as today, if IT supports an ATC strike they can lock the radar down requiring a long encryption file to unlock or the complete re-installation of the systems, either take lots of effort and time.

Angel King
Angel King

I think this speaks for itself.

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Liam Thompson
Liam Thompson

Does a multibillionaire who was born a millionaire understand how bills work?
"no"
He probably thinks they can just get a small loan of a million dollars to keep them going.

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Jaxon Foster
Jaxon Foster

offers reporters mcdiddy's at the end

based

Alexander Harris
Alexander Harris

Does he actually think that federal employees are going to wait even a month without pay?
A lot of them probably will. TSA isn't really representative, they have always been the fuck ups of the Federal Civil Service.
Only desperate GED single moms apply at the TSA. Everyone else will a real career has savings and a reputation to protect, so they'll stick it out.

Thomas Smith
Thomas Smith

Mechanically untenable. Remember Clinton legitimately got a large portion of the Democrat vote against Sanders, and running as an entire separate party, this 3rd party wouldn't just be competing against the Democrats, but against the Republicans. Chances of victory for a 3rd party in an FPtP election aren't low, they're negative infinity.

In local elections, specifically Democrat "safe seats" (Gerrymandered or otherwise), there's no reason a 3rd party could work under FPtP (although, shamefully, no 3rd party on the left or right has actually won meaningful numbers of seats. In spite of there being tens of thousands of elected state-level offices, and hundreds of thousands of local-level offices, the total number of 3rd-party officeholders nationwide is well under a thousand), but for competitive seats, president foremost among them, it's flat out impossible.

The only viable electoral strategies for burgerstani 3rd parties are hostile entryism within the big two, and/or state/local level institution of PR/RV (probably through direct referenda processes) against FPtP, both accompanied by copious amounts of judicial attacks.

Nathaniel Collins
Nathaniel Collins

In local elections, specifically Democrat "safe seats" (Gerrymandered or otherwise), there's no reason a 3rd party could NOT work
Oops

Kevin James
Kevin James

Chances of victory for a 3rd party in an FPtP election aren't low, they're negative infinity.

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Angel Mitchell
Angel Mitchell

The Whigs were already imploding by the time the Republicans were formed, and had completely vanished when Lincoln took office. The Democrats aren't in anywhere near the sort of catastrophic condition needed for another party system.

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Nolan Rogers
Nolan Rogers

Everyone else will a real career has savings and a reputation to protect, so they'll stick it out.
You're full of shit.
t. fed

Isaiah Adams
Isaiah Adams

The Democrats are imploding. People like Clinton and Obama are very different from people like Tulsi Gabbard and AOC.

Levi Ortiz
Levi Ortiz

Not really. There is no alternative to them and the Republicans yet, and folks have not entirely given up on electoralism yet.

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Christopher Robinson
Christopher Robinson

Oh no I'm not. What backwater department do you work for. Every Fed I know has plenty of property and savings and is going for that sweet pension.
That pension alone is worth a few months of forfeited pay.
t. Fed as well

Gabriel Reyes
Gabriel Reyes

What backwater department do you work for.
The Department of the Treasury.

Every Fed I know has plenty of property and savings and is going for that sweet pension.
Have you ever met anyone below a GS-13 who doesn't have two decades in the service?

Logan Brooks
Logan Brooks

The Department of the Treasury.
The world isn't D.C. Not everyone is paying two grand month for a single bedroom hovel
Have you ever met anyone below a GS-13 who doesn't have two decades in the service?
Sure, most of those young guys have at least a bachelor's and could be making more money pretty much anywhere else. They came in with property and savings, if they didn't they would have chased the bigger money in the private sector just like every other kid.
Most of the menial jobs are monopolized by vets because they at vetrans preference, so they usually got some kind of disability pay and some of them even have a military pension.
Everyone know the TSA was the only department hiring goobers. Damn anyone that's flown can attest to that. Doesn't surprise me at that they're washing out first.
The FBO says they'll strike but I'll believe that when I see it. You join the civil servce for the benefits, not the pay, and contrary to popular believe the civil service workforcs is more educated and qualified then the civilian sector, they aren't all living precariously, you can't anyway if you got a clearance.

Juan Gonzalez
Juan Gonzalez

*The FBI says they'll strike

Xavier Price
Xavier Price

coping this hard with losing your paycheck

yum amerikkkan butthut is delicious

I'm praying that the shutdown lasts years so your savings run out and you're forced to steal to eat. Every dead amerikkkan is a victory for socialism.

Hail Trump.

Caleb Sanchez
Caleb Sanchez

yum amerikkkan butthut is delicious
Highly skilled professionals don't join the civil service for a paycheck. The things I've worked on are so sprawling, complex and critical I can't go back to the civilian sector. I'd be bored to tears trying to squeeze more profit from some redundant commodity. Or try to skirt laws that protect people.
I'm praying that the shutdown lasts years so your savings run out and you're forced to steal to eat. Every dead amerikkkan is a victory for socialism.
You obviously don't understand that the welfare state is there to quell revolutionary sentiment, not some laughable liberal moral obligation. Whereever this is going isn't going to take years to conclude. Regardless, I'm on the inside, I'm way more prepared to deal with this then the average person.

Asher Allen
Asher Allen

Wow trump said something radical and seemingly out there. given this guys track record for transparency and honesty i think we should all take this with seriousness, caution, and the weight it deserves.

I have 3 dry erase markers shoved up my ass

Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis

What I'm saying is Bernie is popular enough that starting/joining party could push democrats into 3rd. His primary votes were suppressed by numerous factors including many states requiring you to be a registered democrat to vote in the primary (and beginning in almost total obscurity rather than being the most popular politician in the country). His policies are vastly more popular than what either of the big two offer, and he has the interest of a lot of people across the board (don't forget how many of his voters either didn't vote in the general or voted for Trump). The biggest voting demographic is non-voters, and the main sentiment there is disillusionment with the two parties. Given how especially shitty they've been recently now is the best time to take a risk on a supposed spoiler.

And you're not wrong that FPTP is terrible. But it's not a sure thing here (its most significant effect is suppression of 3rd parties in the long term), and there are many other mechanics involved that basically are. Bernie could at minimum get a significant minority of votes, which would force these mechanics further into the light. He'd likely get a plurality if not a majority of the popular vote, which would force the electoral college to look shitty in general, but especially if his votes were under-counted (very likely). In the end there's a high chance of nobody getting the required electoral votes to win, meaning the vote goes to Congress. Fucking imagine the response in 2020 once the material conditions have gotten even worse when Congress appoints someone like Biden.

Daniel Lopez
Daniel Lopez

What I'm saying is Bernie is popular enough that starting/joining party could push democrats into 3rd.
Very unlikely IMHO
In the end there's a high chance of nobody getting the required electoral votes to win, meaning the vote goes to Congress. Fucking imagine the response in 2020 once the material conditions have gotten even worse when Congress appoints someone like Biden.
This is actually plausible, and would indeed be absolutely hilarious if it happened. Not quite as good as if the RNC had ejected Trump from the primaries in 2016, incentivizing Sanders to create a direct 4-way race.

Jose Lee
Jose Lee

It's gonna be a fucking riot season
You say as if that's a bad thing

Jace Nelson
Jace Nelson

You obviously don't understand that the welfare state is there to quell revolutionary sentiment
You obviously don't understand that the the government doesn't understand it

Aaron Thompson
Aaron Thompson

Killing bad people doesn't un-kill the people they killed or improve anything about the world in and of itself.
It improves my mood and ridding the world of filth is a in and of itself an improvement.

William Reyes
William Reyes

FUCK THE DEMOCRATS. FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT JUST COST ME A ROCKET LAUNCH.

Austin Howard
Austin Howard

Many people are radicalizing, just look at the wildcat strikes. What is happening in France will come to America. And the pigs will pay in blood.
The FBI says they'll strike
Yes, once the secret police apparatus (CIA, FBI, NSA) develops socialist sympathies that a coup can be executed.

Nathaniel Barnes
Nathaniel Barnes

Everyone else will a real career has savings and a reputation to protect
Yeah, I'm sure all those enlisted marines who bought an F350 with their first paycheck and are married to a tricare parasite have plenty of savings.

Trump replacing the armed forces with Blackwater employees would be peak accelerationism, he'd piss off anti-privatization liberals and pro-military conservatives at the same time.

I have 3 dry erase markers shoved up my ass
Noice.

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Lucas Miller
Lucas Miller

I worked in the government my entire career. They understand it perfectly and so does the bourgeois. They let the south get out of hand during the civil rights movement and it remained an economic basket case until the late 90s and it's still consistently the poorest part of the country. Capital won't be invested in an area with a reputation for civil instability.

Henry Evans
Henry Evans

Yeah, I'm sure all those enlisted marines who bought an F350 with their first paycheck and are married to a tricare parasite have plenty of savings.
The military isn't effected by the shutdown you illiterate brainlet

Camden Ward
Camden Ward

Yes, once the secret police apparatus (CIA, FBI, NSA) develops socialist sympathies that a coup can be executed.
Think you missed my point user. I'm saying the FBI will never strike. I get the feeling you're not from burgerland. I used to work with these pics police Intel guys, and I'm telling you they're class cuckoldry knows no bounds.
I'll give Trump one thing, he's good at sniffing out cucks. He's going to class cuck the entire police state and they aren't going to do a dann thing about it.

Oliver Flores
Oliver Flores

FBI now doing it for free

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Nolan Adams
Nolan Adams

The world isn't D.C.
Neither is the city that I work in.

Not everyone is paying two grand month for a single bedroom hovel
I am. So is everyone else at the Federal Building who isn't commuting for three hours per day.

Sure, most of those young guys have at least a bachelor's
As do I.

and could be making more money pretty much anywhere else.
Top-fucking-kek. This isn't 1990 anymore. What do you think a Bachelor's degree is worth these days?

They came in with property and savings, if they didn't they would have chased the bigger money in the private sector just like every other kid.
Seriously, you have to be either a boomer or just pulling shit out of your ass.

Most of the menial jobs are monopolized by vets because they at vetrans preference, so they usually got some kind of disability pay and some of them even have a military pension.
Yeah, I'm one of those vets. My disability pay amounts to a couple hundred dollars a month. The only guys who get pensions are even older than I am by a couple decades. Nobody who isn't at 100% can live on that shit, and those people aren't working for obvious reasons.

You join the civil servce for the benefits, not the pay
You are so full of shit. The vets already have benefits, and it's not like we have options lined up for us in the civilian world.

they aren't all living precariously, you can't anyway if you got a clearance.
Please, I got a Secret clearance back when my credit was even worse than it is now and I was living on Ramen.

Okay, I told you who I work for. Now tell us all who you work for. What agency do you work for where everyone is set for life and works for the sweet, sweet health insurance?

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Cooper Jenkins
Cooper Jenkins

The Coast Guard is. Ironically, they are the guys who actually patrol the maritime borders.

Jaxson Taylor
Jaxson Taylor

didn't mean it that way, im fuckin hyped

Robert Cruz
Robert Cruz

Okay, I told you who I work for. Now tell us all who you work for. What agency do you work for where everyone is set for life and works for the sweet, sweet health insurance?
If I had to guess it’d be the NRO. Their turbo-Landian reactionaries. They defiantly get good pay.

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Aiden Wood
Aiden Wood

Why don't you leave them boys alone, and let them sing their song? (cause they are based)
So /r/fullcommunism needs to leave

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Nicholas Rodriguez
Nicholas Rodriguez

cry harder looser

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Brody Bell
Brody Bell

Do not bully the Con-men, they are passable communists at times. Even if they are arguably the shittiest political group of all time.

Asher Torres
Asher Torres

Hearty kek
I am. So is everyone else at the Federal Building who isn't commuting for three hours per day.
Sorry sugar, you're getting cucked by landlords. I get the vibe your somewhere on the coasts. You all take it as a given to fritter away half your take home pay on rent. It ain't universal.
Top-fucking-kek. This isn't 1990 anymore. What do you think a Bachelor's degree is worth these days?
Worth more than what the Feds pay. The type of people that can't make a good salary from a Bachelor's got it from a degree mill
Seriously, you have to be either a boomer or just pulling shit out of your ass.
No you dumb fuck. If you're poor, or come from a propertyless family you chase the dollars. If you have some breathing room you can afford to think long term. Thinking long term is a luxury in burgerland sadly
Yeah, I'm one of those vets. My disability pay amounts to a couple hundred dollars a month
Thanks for confirming you're a brainlet with some degree mill bachelor's. What ever you get paid by the Fed, you'd get a faction in the civilian sector, and get jack shit for having a fucked up body.
The only guys who get pensions are even older than I am by a couple decades.
Lol no, you get to retire from the military after 20 years of service. Even if you don't make it to 20, you get partial retirement, and you get those years counted toward your civil service.
You probably mop the floors and work with a bunch of untreated PTSD'd fuck ups.
You are so full of shit. The vets already have benefits,
You can retire multiple times under the civil service system. Holy shit, you really don't know how this works.
and it's not like we have options lined up for us in the civilian world.
Sure they do, I know plenty of vets that are in the civilian sector. But they planned it out from day one of their enlistment or commission. They didn't allow themselves to be stuck in some Combat at Arms MOS or fueling airplanes.
Please, I got a Secret clearance back when my credit was even worse than it is now and I was living on Ramen.
Bad credit usually means tons of debt. Tons of debt = target for infiltration. You are so full of shit, they were straight DEMANDING civil servants to report any missed mortgage payments during the 2008 crash.
Okay, I told you who I work for. Now tell us all who you work for.
Nah, worked for the DoD for years though.

Liam Parker
Liam Parker

Every dead amerikkkan is a victory for socialism.
Hail Trump.

what am I reading?

go back to /pol/index.html

Jace Anderson
Jace Anderson

The government definitely does understand that welfare states quell revolutionary sentiment, this is like 20th century statecraft 101.

Ayden Morales
Ayden Morales

Sorry sugar, you're getting cucked by landlords.
That would be the definition of being a renter.

I get the vibe your somewhere on the coasts.
I am originally from Fly-over Country. You could never get me to go back to that Third World shithole no matter how cheep the rent is. Your rent is low, because nobody wants to live there.

The type of people that can't make a good salary from a Bachelor's got it from a degree mill
Bet my old university is better than yours. The only students there were children of millionaires and a few guys on the G.I. Bill like me.

If you're poor, or come from a propertyless family you chase the dollars.
So a prole.

Lol no, you get to retire from the military after 20 years of service.
And then you keep working, because you cannnot live on that shit unless you were either a chief or a major or better.

You probably mop the floors and work with a bunch of untreated PTSD'd fuck ups.
Because that's what the IRS is known for, retard. And what is this self-impressed petit-bourgeois preening about how great your career is because you worked hard and made all the right choices.

You can retire multiple times under the civil service system.
Collecting retirements is a concern only when your bills right now get payed.

But they planned it out from day one of their enlistment or commission. They didn't allow themselves to be stuck in some Combat at Arms MOS or fueling airplanes.
Haha, stupid poor people doing the dirty jobs that everybody counts on! Why don't they all get better jobs where they get more pay for less work? Could it be that they are too lazy or too stupid?

You are so full of shit, they were straight DEMANDING civil servants to report any missed mortgage payments during the 2008 crash.
Which only matters if you have ever had a mortgage, and why would a kid going into the service have a mortgage?

worked for the DoD for years though
Oh. You're one of those defense contractor fucks. That explains everything. I'm a goddamn tax collector, and even I feel superior to you parasitic pieces of shit.

Colton Barnes
Colton Barnes

a tax collector and a Marxist

I'm not sure wether to be disgusted by you red feds or happy that there are secret marxists in the government.

Charles Gray
Charles Gray

I'm not proud, but as the song goes I've got bills to pay; I've got mouths to feed.

Juan Jenkins
Juan Jenkins

auditing porkies and forcing them to comply with the social contract instead of embezzling it all, in what is by far the most porky-centric branch of our tax system
not marxist

Oliver Bennett
Oliver Bennett

Nah, we T-Men work for the banks creating a need for fiat currency while providing the paperwork for things like mortgages and student loans. Right now the banks are throwing interest-free loans at us to replace our paychecks while the shutdown is in effect. The IRS walking out on tax season is a SHTF scenario for the financial industry.

Unfortunately, the NETU (good bourgeois union that it is) is doing fuck-all to take advantage, and it will be a few more weeks before guys get worried enough to go wildcat. The good news is that a lot of T-Men seem to already be doing the same thing that the TSAs are doing: calling in sick. Keep an eye on the Treasury Department if this shutdown drags on much longer.

Aaron Powell
Aaron Powell

That would be the definition of being a renter.
Lol, $800 per month for a decent apartment vs $2000 plus for a flop house a few blocks from gangland is a pretty big fucking difference
You could never get me to go back to that Third World shithole no matter how cheep the rent is.
Hahah knew it, in 20 years I'll own my shit out right in my "shithole", while you'll still be a neo-surf. Oh wow! You live around a bunch of shitty restaurants, totally worth not having any savings. No way could someone be happy around more natural beauty. Keep telling yourself that the coasts are the only places that have culture. Your landlord is laughing all the way to the bank.
Bet my old university is better than yours.
Okay, then you were a terrible student. Doesn't detract from my main point that people that can't get good salaries with a 4 year degree have a shitty education.
So a prole.
Some proles have property, most don't. Hey idiot you do realize that if you're a poor young person you're not the only one that's poor. Usually your parents, siblings and anyone you have a personal relationship is as well. I was blessed with parents that could think ahead. But I can count on 2 fingers how many people from genuinely poor backgrounds that could do life planning and I'm one of them.
And then you keep working, because you cannnot live on that shit unless you were either a chief or a major or better.
Lol, nice lie by omission. You forgot the part about RETIRING IN 20 years. That puts the average solider in their early 40's when they retire with half their pay. It's not a big deal to work into your middle age.
Because that's what the IRS is known for, retard.
Every agency has low level shit positions retard.
And what is this self-impressed petit-bourgeois preening about how great your career is because you worked hard and made all the right choices.
It's not preening. The Civil Service really is staffed with the most educated workforce in the US, and maybe the planet.
Second only to other elite workforces like in Silicon Valley, or Fortune 20 companies.
You're sound like some recovering /pol/yp or former Republican. The whole "The government always fucks things up" is a right wing meme. If you can't recognize how elite the federal work force is you either never had a position of any importance, or are one of these disgruntled vets that wants to take out their exploitation out on others.
Collecting retirements is a concern only when your bills right now get payed.
If you struggle to pay the bills after serving and then jumping to civil service, you fucked up bad.
Haha, stupid poor people doing the dirty jobs that everybody counts on!
Wow, yeah! Everyone totally needs Goat herders half way across the country shot. Whatever would we do without you! I may have worked for the DoD, but I was never spooked by it. Can't tell you how many NCO burnouts like you I've met that thinks the world owes them something because they got rekt'd by the military. Sorry, but you got ripped off, and no one is ever going to pay you back.
Which only matters if you have ever had a mortgage, and why would a kid going into the service have a mortgage?
You're kidding right? They get VA financing, along with reenlistment bonuses and officers make enough money to buy a home with just their salary. You really need to ask why someone would buy a home. Holy shit, you really don't have any life skills.
Oh. You're one of those defense contractor fucks
I wasn't a contractor
I'm a goddamn tax collector, and even I feel superior to you parasitic pieces of shit.
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I don't know why though. And I'm not in the DoD anymore. You're just mad because I didn't let the military grind up my body and soul like you lol.

Daniel Phillips
Daniel Phillips

Wow, yeah! Everyone totally needs Goat herders half way across the world shot.

Owen Price
Owen Price

This is what decades of capitalist brainwashing does to a person.

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Caleb Ortiz
Caleb Ortiz

No and he doesn't care. For Republicans it's an excuse to privatize Air Traffic Control, TSA and Amtrak. They'll seriously try and fire everyone involved and replace them with private hires. It's only when *that* fails (since private scabs will not work as they will demand payment up front) will Republicans start to seriously negotiate and hammer something out with Pelosi, which will be approved over Trump's veto. Trump will ride this into a successful 2020 reelection.

Either that or the government simply remains closed and the economy is severely disrupted until enough damage occurs where porky picks up the phone and orders his legislators to fucking do something.

Dylan Brooks
Dylan Brooks

is trump ancap

Isaac Sanders
Isaac Sanders

The last time a third party showed up it was a literal socialist party in rural Wisconsin, primarily made up of angry farmers and tradesmen. The GOP itself showed up because the old parties could not come to a consensus on slavery.

As it pertains to the DNC specifically, they aren't imploding they're just pissing on all of their allies. Overall their lock on core states (CA, IL, NY) has increased, even though they are having trouble commanding a national coalition. This will intensify and the DNC has no problem riding the US back into a one party system, because they'd rather rule their fiefdoms with impunity then embrace national reform. This is exactly how the US was run from 1865-1912.

Breaking out of this is very difficult, the government shutdown is a new extreme but it's more representative of incompetency rather than a serious ideological struggle. Neither side can agree on paying for things and are so arrogant they are making workers work without pay, this will sooner lead to a major financial crisis than to a revolution.

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Daniel Martin
Daniel Martin

Trump only cares about getting reelected, he's a classic narcissist and only cares about himself. Anything he can do to enrich himself he will do. Nothing more and nothing less.

Jack Jackson
Jack Jackson

in 20 years I'll own my shit out right in my "shithole"
So when you are about sixty. Then you have about ten years before you need assisted living. Until then you get to spend your forty working years in a shithole with nothing to recommend it but low property values. But hey, when you die you will be able to bequeath your property to your children who will immediately sell it to pay their own bills. Winning!

You forgot the part about RETIRING IN 20 years.
Don't be dense. You get a retirement after twenty years which you can't live off of unless you were a field officer or an E-8 or better. Retired veterans have to work or live in poverty.

Every agency has low level shit positions retard.
No, they don't, dipshit. They have contractors do all the janitorial stuff. How do you not know this if you are supposedly a fed? Have you spent all these years looking at the people who vacuum the carpets around your workspace and thinking that they were just on a lower rung than you because they didn't get a bachelor's degree?

The Civil Service really is staffed with the most educated workforce in the US, and maybe the planet.
Yes, nearly every one of us has a four-year degree. The thing is, that doesn't amount to shit anymore. This isn't the nineties.

If you struggle to pay the bills after serving and then jumping to civil service, you fucked up bad.
Who doesn't struggle to pay bills? The children of bourgeois parents.

You're sound like some recovering /pol/yp or former Republican.
You sound like a current Republican talking about how you have things because you made all the right choices in life and how everybody who actually does hard work only has themselves to blame.

Wow, yeah! Everyone totally needs Goat herders half way across the country shot. Whatever would we do without you!
Yes, everyone else in the military needs the infantry, because they are the basis of military operations. The military is divided into two groups: the infantry and those who help the infantry. I may have been a computer jockey in the headquarters building, but I never sneered down my nose at the people who see gunfire like you do.

Can't tell you how many NCO burnouts like you I've met that thinks the world owes them something because they got rekt'd by the military.
I have met more than enough of your entitled kind as well.

You're kidding right? They get VA financing, along with reenlistment bonuses and officers make enough money to buy a home with just their salary.
And you can't read. Nobody going into the service–which is when you get a security clearance–has a mortgage.

That looks legit to me.

Hudson Hill
Hudson Hill

The last time a third party showed up it was a literal socialist party in rural Wisconsin
You forgot the Reform Party in 1996.

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