John Taylor Gatto - The Purpose Of Schooling

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As excellent as a classical education was, modern education is based on a intentionally fascist system of fashioning children into cogs in a machine, mindless workers and voters to serve the elite.

As such, it is unsurprising that the feminists, cultural marxists, and SJW's in general have found it such a ripe target for takeover, turning it even further against classical liberal ideals based on a foundation of Christian, Greco-Roman, and Enlightenment thought, further threatening the very fabric of our society.

For a written essay on this topic by the same author, see limist.com/education/the-seven-lesson-schoolteacher-by-john-taylor-gatto.html. The 7 lessons being taught are Confusion, Class Position, Indifference, Emotional Dependency, Intellectual Dependency, Provisional Self-Esteem, and that “One Can’t Hide”. The whole essay is worth reading, as is almost all of the rest of John Taylor Gatto's work that I have come across over the years.

Also, a shoutout to the School Sucks Podcast: youtube.com/watch?v=d2Lz6lv9crA

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uh huh

It's not "fascist."
It's marxist.
"Fascism" is nationalism. Sometimes it is faggy "civic nationalism" (notably fascist Italy) other times it is true nationalism with a racial or ethnic Volk.
Nationalism holds the great achievements of the "state" (fagCivNat) or the nation (people united by common blood and heritage) to be sacred.
The modern school system is marxist and jewish. It uses "critical theory" and "sensitivity" and anti-White hatred to brainwash the children.
"Fascists" would be teaching the children to love and be proud of their country, their people, and their history.
Marxists teach the WHITE children to hate and be ashamed of their country, their people, and their history while building up the blacks and browns.
Why?
To further the marxist goal of destroying White civilization and genociding Whites.

Stop conflating fascism with marxism.
The "horseshoe theory" is retarded.

Not to hijack your thread or anything like that, but what exactly was "classical education?" More aptly, why were people back then (more specifically, our founding fathers) so much more intelligent than your average individual currently?

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Classical education does not include "classical" liberalism
Christianity is anti-liberal
Greece and Rome were both anti-liberal slave states. Rome was one of the largest slave states in history.

Fuck off with your Whig revisionism.

They were taught logic and Latin and had to read all of the classics and theological texts by the time they were 14 years old. Today that would be considered a good college education, and most classics departments don't even require learning Latin anymore.

Why is it this way? Jews and niggers. Why do we have Jews and niggers? Because of the "classical" liberalism OP believes is so great.

By the time they were 14? What? I knew the founding fathers new and loved Greek because of the way they would mention it a lot when they wrote things. Still though, it's hard to think that was once stuff individuals would learn by the age of 14. It just goes to show how far we've (((fallen))) during the past 100-150 years of being judified.

Still though, are there any "classical" private schools that still do this kind of school work? I just can't believe our educational system was once so superior to what it is now.

Yes, dropout now my good goyim.

A classical liberial (meaning free man in contrast to a laborer in this case) educaiton was "learning for learning's sake" because the idle rich had nothing better to do. What makes an education liberial is literially nothing they learned could actually be applied as a skill. A liberal education was a luxury item.

The ratio of intelligence between the intelligent and unintelligent is the same as it was back then. Why more intelligent people are not as apparent today is because people were more autonomous back then. We did not have industry hordes collabrating within to generate wealth back then, and the company itself ultimately gaining the intellectual property in the end. Wealth back then was mostly generated by individual estates.
A head of estate was basically a CEO with no high to middle management and all the finincal risk. They had to be intelligent enough in every aspect to stay afloat and be profitable. Intelligent enough to hire the right workers, make deals with merchants and ships, network with other heads of estates, keep their crop and wealth secure, and groom their heir. In the both the modern and old world, a mid to lower middle class person never did that, because they never went beyond their capacity besides to get food on the table. In the modern world, the idle rich is 9 times out of 10 had their wealth generated through someone else (hollywood, companies, sports teams) and has not built it directly.
Its no secret that almost all the founding fathers were heads of estates or within the innercircles of heads of estates.

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Our educational system uses outcome based education. This has two major intents.

The first intent is to meet Labor Department projections of future demand for labor in various sectors. They are trying to make the population become those types of workers. ie Labor Department projections from the 1970s set Education Department policies in the 1990s. Plug and play workers.

The second intent is equality. If you give everyone good education the good students will outperform. You can't make dumb students perform that much better. But you can confuse or neglect smart students. This removes problematic patterns which helps low performing students and schools look better statistically.

There is nothing classically liberal about having jews and niggers as legally protected classes. It is opposite of classical liberalism. Get rekt, you know this.

You forget to add Greece (Athens) also were extremely misogynist and anti-liberal for free women as well.

But you thread under assumption that everyone is entitled to be citizen just because he or she belongs to one of the human races. Remove this assumption and Antics can be counted as liberal for the citizens.

what is your definition of fascist that fits your description of modern schooling.

instead of playing games and watching tv they learned latin, calculus, and read classic lit.

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in addition to learning that "mitochondria is the power house of the cell" for six years in a row and taking entire courses dedicated to holocaust fiction, and that's when they arent menially memorizing one dimensional bits of information and doing "busy work".
students spend such a ridiculous amount of time in mandatory government facilities just to learn jack shit about fuck all.

I would love to see Finland's education system become the model for the rest of the world tbh. The way our education system works in America is fucked and needs to be restructured.

All good and well-
Kill me. I just wanted to not wake up to a fucking alarm clock. FUCK.

Guess it's good to add that I was one of those Tavistock funded Talented and Gifted babies.

History teacher here. AMA

They weren't. Today, any idiot monkey with a keyboard can write a fanfick. 50 years ago, you need lots of money to be able to muckrack.

how does it feel to have a worthless profession? Do you wish you would have studied something more useful?

I don't feel like my profession is worthless at all. The pay is good, the benefits are great, and I get to basically redpill my students daily. What's not to like? I'll take this over slaving away in a factory or office. I'm literally paid to give my opinions to your children and I don't even have to work during summers.

This has probably been going on for at least a century, probably far longer; at what point in time could you say that the (((reptoids))) gained the power to create these people processing plants? The Marxist thought is ingrained in western culture going back generations, the tree is rotted at its roots.

Also an excuse to post this entirely relevant classic.

>The way our education system works in America is fucked and needs to be restructured eliminated and replaced with nothing.
Fixed that for you. Parents need to actually parent their children, not send them off to strangers to be indoctrinated.

What do you think about comparative history?

I have a gold star now, sweet

Education is another word for indoctrination. To truly learn something one must be curious. Which is why curiosity and people whom ask questions are constantly targeted.

Also, you’re the same people coordinating all this bullshit around me, what makes you think I am going to trust you enough to come out of the cave to see what you’re offering.

How do I get a white star?

You are getting cucked by Jews if you aren't homeschooling your kids in a classical curriculum.

I don't mind comparing and contrasting our civilization with past ones. What I do dislike is when (((academics))) try to project our current kiked up morality system to a time period that had a completely different set of principles. I believe it is important to help my students get into an ancient mindset for whatever period they are studying. If they are studying Rome, they should have an idea of what the basic life of a Roman consisted of, what their values were, and what ideals they strived to achieve.

Faggot.


When public schools were first introduced, it was during a wave of immigration from Italy, Ireland, and Eastern Europe, and one of the concerns of the elites was of losing control via demographics. Schools were to meld everyone into un-hyphenated Americans. So in that sense, they were fascist, like Italy. Our problem is that our American elites cared for nothing other than luxuries, and allowed themselves to be replaced by kikes.

Rescued. Shills with slides won't kill this one.

This video concerns the structure of public school itself, not the curricula taught

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Yes it is. That was the entire purpose. The fact that marxists later took control of the system doesn't mean it wasn't fascist in its original design. This is why fascism is shit, it places the state above the nation exactly the opposite of national socialism. This is why Italy was a worthless dump and Germany was the envy of the world.
Stop sperging out anytime someone says something correct that you are too stupid to understand.
And it has nothing to do with this you fucking knob.

I love John Gatto to death, and you all should read /watch his stuff. I've posted him in the last couple webm threads.

I was going to make a new thread about public school propaganda, but I'll dump it's content here if you want.


K-12 comes from Prussia and the rest of the world adopted it in order to create a dumbed down prole class.


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John Gatto webms from the webm thread,

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Here's a great talk by Thomas Sheridan explaining the Anglo pedo elites use of Prussian Education and how the anti-nazi propaganda is a way of destroying the memory of Prussia. K-12 has been adopted by the majority of the world as it's the most effective form of mass mind control to date.

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part 2

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Here John Gatto says the Allies would not make a deal with Hitler over Dunkirk due to him being a low born pleb paper hanger.

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Look up the Trivium and Quadrivium. K-12 is designed to dumb you down and extend your childhood.


There were many anti-slavery authors and campaigns in ancient Greece. Athenians chimped out in the streets after their navy gave the captured Carolingian's the living death.


Watch/read what I've posted. It outlines it all, specifically the "elite education" webm.


American upper classes were just as bad as kikes to the under classes. They set up schools to turn the new immigrants into lever pullers. Henry Ford promoted race mixing between all Europeans. K-12 mixed the higher grade old stock with low IQ refuse and produced the modern American pleb, mutt capeshit watcher.

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