What Would Trigger a Civil War in America?

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The UN is a useless institution created by the US you fucking retard. It's just a place where useless people get a job and pretend to do stuff.
Since when is the UN going to do anything against the US? Did the UN did anything to the US when they invaded Iraq and Afghanistan? Did the UN did anything when Obama was killing people in foreign nation with the drones?
But when Russia recovered Crimea, a region which was part of Russia since 1783 when they conquered against the Ottoman Empire until in 1953 Nikita Kruschev transfered it to Ukraine for random reasons….they received economic sanctions.

Considering the lack of foresight among terrorists, I wonder when if ever someone will target something meaningful like the power grid.

Look in a mirror.

>no one is going to give their life for a kike politician like (((Schumer))) or a sad ID stealing mudshit
Indeed. Studies show that libshits adopt anti-immigrant views after a mere three days of exposure to the most trivial of consiquences for their actions like having to listen to Spanish on their daily commute.
This is why I say that any civil war in the USA would quickly turn into a racial conflict even if it began over vague ideological differences.

T'would be a shame if a hurricane or something destroyed vital infrastructure.

It seems that an economic recession is coming.
To play devil's advocate, the 2008 recession didn't trigger any violent resistance at all. Why would the next one cause a full blown civil war? It seems that so long as the ball games continue unabated, the mindless lemmings will not get off their asses to do anything.

Learn to read, nigger.

Reeading comprehension is a dying art.
The kikes replaced basic English courses with diversity normalization classes and women's studies.

It better not take 20 years…those of us who would fight to regain what we remember from our childhood will be too old to fight and the young won't know anything different than liberal fucking HELL on Earth.

Ending the FED and crashing the value of the USD. It would implode the country.

ZOG would crush the rightwing resistance in the short term. Then more monstrous men would have to do what is necessary.

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This is a legitimate outlook with many sound foundational supporting proofs. But I believe you forgot to mention that the earliest start date has already past so as such, it could start tomorrow just as likely in twenty years.

If you look at the white population, it is heavily split between hard brainwashed liberals and their handlers, the boomer cucks whom have lived for decades on propaganda and comfort and still cannot see the forest for the tree's, an middling ground group whom are still comfortable in their life but are not actually doing well at all and are dissatisfied with the current outlook they see and are open to both boomer cuck outlooks and whom entertain some of our views but still reserve themselves from becoming fully redpilled, and the rising storm you can classify as 'us' to varying degrees, there are some large overlaps as well. This massive split between various factions has demarcated the power structure of the white 'vote' and as such as accelerated the split between those whom will accept what is coming and those whom refuse to accept this trajectory for much longer.

There were major fracture points two decades ago, ruby ridge and waco were the biggest early breaks between unified civic nationalism and volk patriotism. Obviously for many reasons those went nowhere, and it was far too early for them to do so. But it showcased to our nation that it was not the shining beacon on the hill of freedom everyone believed, and permanently broke unification of the nation. Since then decades of abuse and subversion have done nothing but prove old conspiracy theorists right and lend heavy credence to anti-authoritarian voices. Obama was the biggest major fracture point that cemented the current ongoing battle-lines for a host of reasons too numerous to list here now. The rise of prepping showcased the utter collapse of faith in the system as both a support system and functional government. The ending of the prepping movement recently has also shown the more militaristic turn of the entire population, not longer seeking to survive 'idiocy of leadership leading to collapse' but instead focusing on combating government forces and other americans for a variety of reasons, not defensively but offensively.

The fuse is already primed and every bit of kindling and accelerators needed to start an open war is already present and glaringly obvious if you know anything about human nature and history. At this point in time, and simple accident of circumstance can be enough to key something off, and it can go live. It is an assumption that you need people starving in the streets to start an revolution or sectarian civil war that holds no proof. Our moves here have done well to take advantage of existing fracture points and propagate an more unified 'white human' focus and outlook in the general population before this conflict starts, we should be thankful to our fellow user's for this. This has also allowed our more aware people to accept and see those whites whom refuse to value volk over other non important issues are to be considered lost causes and either subjugated or exterminated with our enemies.

Watching history build is interesting. Knowing history is about to turn and what happens to those whom live thru it at the time…. thats gonna suck.

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My first thought would be kids. But Brits did nothing after Muslims rape ganged little girls and turned them into gyro meet for sale. Now in Italy Triani gunned down refugees after they ate a girl and used the spare parts for a voodoo ritual. His actions helped spark the current Italian uprising. That leads me to believe it isn't what will spark the revolution. It's when will someone act. As long as we just bitch and moan online no event no matter how horrible will set RWDS in motion. Ironically only RWDS can start the formation of widespread RWDS. People need to see they aren't alone and aren't first to act. My best guess? Some lunatic is pushed by leftist rhetoric over the edge and kills a notable "alt-light" e-celeb like Tommy Robinson, Sarcuck, or whoever. And one of their fans responds with shocking violence. That will make the fire rise.

Correct, and we should want it to happen as quickly as possible to increase the chance of white success and shorten the length of the war.
Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed, user. Hard times breed tough men.

Spreading the knowledge that dan harmon is indeed a pedophile.

violence , lots of violence …

we are over stigmatized, its our own doing
but in that same breath we are ready
I dont even think you would know that things were a "civil war"

examples:
1) chicago
2) many different gang factions that are actually operating currently
3) the constant talk about it like its destined

I would suggest this is what you have to watch for, people out right trying to recruit you to a "side". Its gonna stop being talk of if , but a talk of when and youll start hearing calls for you to prepare or to leave.

Ill tell you I got warning 1 year ago in california, I think this is due to gang activity instead of an idea of a "civil war" … but its spreading, sides are being chosen.

"what does it take" … one sided feeling prepared.

Question for thread:

Over/under will the civil war happen before or after next president election?

I say under (before)

the vacuum of power created by the second American civil war will indeed be the dark horse fulcrum of power that catches everyone off guard.

you know how the (((Pentagon))) have plans ready to launch to sieze the nukes of any country who may fall into civil war?

such as Pakistan, where the Pentagon will not allow terrorists to take their nukes.

you think Russia doesn't have the exact same contingency plans for America that America has for all nuclear powers in the world?

you think Russia is just going to sit on the sidelines and watch MS13 and the Black Panthers and the Northwest Front sieze the nukes from the former United States?

never.

here's what will happen, and it will blow your mind.

under the treaty of 1838, Tsar Alexander gave away the Russian territory at Fort Ross, California back to America.

but if America no longer exists, well, guess what? that treaty is nullified, and Fort Ross reverts back to Russian territory.

so as soon as the civil war turns hot, and after the maurading gangs of niggers and beaners are sacking California and purging the remaining white minority population, the Russian Navy is going to land at Fort Ross, and thousands of Spetnatz soldiers will sieze every city in California north of San Diego, and go house to house shooting feral insurgents and soyboi trannies until Law and Order is restored.

luckilly, Californian Commies have voluntarily disarmed themselved, and as soon as they see the flags of the USSR they will believe they are being liberated by the Communists whom they wanted to live under anyways, and so they will happily surrender, not realizing they are still going to the new gulag in East Los Angeles because they will be deemed as Race traitors who are too effette to contribute to the restoration of the Roman Empire under Russian rule.

so i don't lose one wink of sleep worrying about the calculus of the second American civil war. i practice and learn more Russian language in anticipation of California, the portal through which Satan enters the world, becoming NovoRussiya–a utopia of White Christian values and a beacon for the world.

Economic collapse, as in full global collapse/soft reset, would likely trigger a civil war centered around balkanization of the U.S.
Rural versus City in an environment of dwindling resources. But that would be more of an apocalyptic kind of scenario.

Pretty sure the liberal useful idiots thought they were going to reinstate Obama as president or in some kind of overseer role. Likely some kind of plan based on communications with arcane spirits through ouija boards. That would have triggered a shooting war to some extent.

I think the biggest problem is that no one really gives a fuck. The left gives a fuck, but they are all nut jobs wanting to turn the U.S. into another beautiful Venezuelan socialist paradise. Everyone else is like "fuck it, let's grill some steaks." Capitalism keeps everyone in the groove.
The left wants NAZI style true believers marching down the street beating up fags as they go. The right just wants more marbling in their steaks and wondering what the fuck is wrong with the left.
Meanwhile its a slow burn as all the socialist policies of the left are eating away at their strongholds, and countries that openly embraced socialism are now either obviously surviving solely through capitalism or collapsing. Only the truly deranged are staying hard core left.

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if trump gets assassinated, that'd do it for me

If Trump continues as president until then? No war.

If Trump is disposed in ANY way? Gear the fuck up and get your last preps finished while preparing to flee if necessary. Shit will get very fucking real soon after, no matter any supposed votes.

Trump is an lighting rod. An symbol for all sides and factions. He may not be 'one of us' but hes the closest we have and whom is acceptable for the greatest amount of non cucked peoples. If HE isn't good enough for them, then only blood matters and most sides get it now. I am pretty certain this is something the 'elites' understand and is why they are trying to hard to do ANYTHING that can remove him without an assassination. But their failure to understand human nature is what is allowing them to believe they can remove him in any way. Symbols are more important than the men behind them, something our system has forgotten. I could be wrong on this granted, but I wouldn't take any bets against it.

The wild card is if a part of the system goes after one of those like us and they/we roll government forces in some way. And the population decides to get riled up to assist/protect em while Trump is in office. That is what I cannot figure out what would happen should something of the sort happen. How Trump responds and how people one our side respond to that is an obscured issue.

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Saying 'It's just a prank, bro' after inciting violence won't keep you out of prison, retard.

What you say reminds me of a WLP speech in which he describes "a growing trickle of recruits for a resistance movement" stemming from the conservative elements suffering from a state of culture shock.

This is very true.

That's a conundrum.
What is your opinion of the idea that if things begin to escalate in the manner you describe, that the (((media))) will switch their tune from one of riling up mad libshit hatred to one of reconciliation and unity?

Are we?

It seems to me that all sides who would be involved in the civil war lack organization and thus are hindered in their abilities to do much of anything. The only factions that have any sort or organization are the Republican and Democrat political parties. Which are of course, inorganic shitshows who would have no stake in any real conflict.
Then there is the military establishment, the kikes, and a few loosly organized interest groups like BLM and various milita organizations.

Thanks for your valuable contribution to furthering the collective knowledge of civil wars.

Ah, that sounds relaxing.
But then, how will they get to America anyway? That's a very long supply line. I think it more likely that Russia will focus on her geo-political interests in Eastern Europe rather than adventuring across a vast ocean in a continent that they have no geo-political interest in. However, they will likely support one side or the other monetarily and with weapons.

Attacking power grids.
People will go crazy if they don't have the electric jew to sedate them.

you confuse the idea of "ready" as equal to "we will win"

we are ready like a football player is ready for a game, we may not win, but we are ready to play.

To further clarify, as I said sides are being chosen. This is without any officialdom , but just within our observations of the laws of the land.

A simple question to bring this to light is. Do you think that there is any agreement between the "stand your ground" folk and the "transvestites in women's bathrooms" folk?

I say no. And if you say yes you have to prove it. Your lack of proving it would be call to civil war in the sheer idea that we cannot be represented by the same government.

"we are ready" … i didnt mean that to infer "our side is ready". More so that we are primed , the temperture is at a good level , time to take us out of the oven and serve this thing up.

Check out the demonstrations out side maxine waters office and her reactions, the nation has civil war blue balls.

you realize its the electirc jew that spures our hate through media

I think the opposite in this case, lack of power bring the kings down from their castles and makes us realize we need eachother

I believe that during the "summer of sam" in new york this is what was experienced.

Ah, but I'm not inciting violence now, am I.
Just having a friendly discussion on the internet.

This is a very depressing outlook. However I share your opinion unfortunately. Americans are so apathetic and so spineless. These militia organizations need to grow a set and stand up for their principles.

If Trump is "peacefully impeached" aka a bloodless coup d'état who do you see acting and how? Trump has a strong support base. But they are disorganized and atomized. What Trump should have done is start organizing a paramilitary youth group. Obviously he can call it a "MAGA club" or whatever. But the creation of such an organization would send a cold shiver down the spines of the establishment.

It is the foundation of power.

There is no argument. The anti-White shitlibs are psychotic, hate driven lunatics. Negotiating with terrorists is easy compared to negotiating with Marxists. They demand the impossible and scream and moan every time their demands are not met AND SURPASSED. They're hate crazed lunatics. However, they are led by cunning, cold, calculating jews.

Do you believe that the descent into open warfare will be sudden or gradual?

I think the non-whites have to start it, otherwise ordinary white people wouldn't see themselves as the moral faction. So whatever would trigger the niggers (or moslems, in the case of europe) the most, so much so that they just form angry mobs and invade the suburbs Haiti-style

the USA was 56% non-hispanic white (including 2% jews and 2% moslems, so really 52% white, plus h'white spics) in 2015, which was almost 3 years ago. we are about 50% right now, maybe a minority already. we definitely will be by 2020.

Only 1 thing: if UFO vacuumed up the entire US military.

No. Nobody ever is. And there is never any organized groups at the start of an civil war unless an organization is being supported by outside forces whom have already trained, supplied, emplaced and directed said organization. An true civil war will not be like the last with states vs federals. It will be an vast and separated conflict spanning thousands of miles with few if any lines of battle. The US is massive, far more so than even most americans understand. local warlords whom have proven themselves in battle and are adept at both tactical and strategic thinking are going to become supreme over time. Do not think this is some fight for a month thing. The battle lines between anyone will take the better part of a year or more to come down in most cases unless you have already chosen your side or others have chosen it for you.

An civil war in the US is likely to last at minium ten years. More likely, huge portions of the US will stay locked in one type of conflict or another for decades as portions/partitions of the nation are stabilized thru local and then regional structures at various times. It is highly unlikely any one nation comes out the other side of such an conflict, and we may end up with half an dozen different nations, some of them laying claim to being the 'True' US for one reason or another.

Nuclear weapons are an meme and unimportant. The US is too vast for anyone but the Federal government to seize all weapons and carry them out of the nation to another. The US can also easily produce more in short order. The biggest issue is not nukes, but biologicals in our dozen cat 4 labs that are utterly unprotected and increasingly staffed with non whites. An accident here while everyone is distracted with daily survival domestically can spread like lighting across the glob and create massive death tolls with no possibility of stopping it. The only way of avoiding that is not invasion, but an world wide embargo of the entire continent until things become a bit more civilized.

You need to think more realistically and strategically. Drop the idiot meme that movies and games have pushed into your mind. Believe it or not, it is perfectly acceptable to lose a few cities if its necessary, its not a big deal. Leadership only cares because THEY are the biggest targets for now, otherwise no fucks given. Also, an US civil war is likely to use nukes on itself, any nation that fucks with the US while it deals with its own problems is going to be target number one by whichever faction doesn't like the nations invading or supporting whichever side. The US is more likely to be an pariah than an prize.

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Nothing, you burgers are too tame when dealing with your superiors now.

All the more reason that deporting the 50,000,000 illegals (anchor babies are not and have never been legal citizens, ever, at any time) was why we voted for Trump. AND YET HE REFUSES TO DEPORT THEM.

Depends on what you're picturing when you think of civil war.

A lot of people here are retards and think that a civil war in America would be a decisive Rahowa. That only happens with masses of super impressionable peasants like in Rwanda. A civil war in America would probably follow a model like the Troubles. A few radicals on either side doing low intensity assassinations and terrorist attacks, decent sized support organizations, and a lot of apolitcal/non-ideological fence sitters waiting for it to be over.

A lot of thinks could trigger a Northern Ireland style conflict. Fewer more serious situations could bring about a Syrian style civil war. Only an outbreak of mass psychosis/miracle could make it a decisive Rahowa.

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*A lot of things

You again.

Is this some kind of psyop to make is hate anime?

I ask you this. Ordinary whites receive their info from the media and as we all know the media will ALWAYS portray us as initiating violence.
What's the point in waiting to accept a fight on the enemies terms where the only benefit is that people already in your camp feel a sense of moral righteousness? Why not search for a fight on terms that favor you PR be damned?

This. Call it a blackpill or anything you want but it's the truth. There has been virtually no resistance to the shit we've seen for decades, the demographics are irreversibly fucked in almost all white countries (the ones that matter for the most part at least: USA, Germany, France, Canada, Australia, etc.) and the young people (see: people capable of fighting and reproducing) are majority brown in many cases; and to top that off, most of the whites don't care, don't realize and some, frankly, are pleased with this because they non-ironically think it'll be a utopia once their racist grandfather dies off. Whether it's the upcoming US election or at best the one after it you'll have another Democrat in the White House; they'll play heavily to non-whites because that is, objectively speaking, the new voter of America. You'll see an even stronger push for open borders, anti-white policies (not South Africa-tier yet but things you already see like affirmative action, etc.) and doubling down on the Diversity is Our Strength™ bullshit because they know that's all we'll be getting. And that won't even resonate with most people because the culture is already so thoroughly BLACKED and they love it. I mean, Jesus Christ, you can't anyone in America to get disgusted on a mass level over things like Rotheram but they'll march whenever some 22 year old black teenager gets shot for no reason on his way home from Bible study (the gun in his waistband and video footage of him reaching for it shouldn't matter, bigot). No one can really seem to give a fuck about how most of these "refugees" are coming only to take from you, and instead are too busy jerking off over the idea about gettin' to kill dem dere Ruskies. I'm not saying give up and eat a bullet or anything but as I see it, it'll take some Olympic level mental gymnastics to think there's a chance that this won't happen barring literal divine intervention.

Also OPs point here is adorable at best, downright retarded at worst:
Holy shit, my sides. It won't be that, it'll really be a case of being ripe for the pickings. If you want to defeat America or anything in the west from a demographic angle at least: kick off a civil war. Who is mostly going to die? Whitey. Who is already dying out as it is? Whitey. Who is actually going to fight each other like idiots for their precious "democracy" (see: Diversity™, iPhones and white guilt media): whitey. And lets face it, who has become spineless and soft due to generations of having it good, safe and easy, raised by single moms who keep them doused in Purell babysat by their Xbox? Hint: it isn't Pablo. Kick off a civil war, sit back and watch the chaos, the destruction and the confusion and then come in when the time is right to "stabilize" and then just colonize the hell out of it.

OP's point was stupid shit, because he's a kike. Kikes are dumb.

that's not my point, my point is that only non-whites are savage enough to initiate it. most white people aren't going to want to be in that sort of situation, they're going to have to be forced into having to defend themselves from aggressive non-whites

It isn't.

This is where you're just plain wrong. I'd put american whites as the single best fighters on the planet.

Civil war

Kek

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there are only 4 sites in the US where nuclear weapons are manufactured.

Lawrence Livermore will be one of the first to be sacked, due to its proximity to faggot Mecca SF.

which leaves 3.

Los Alamos might be safer being more remote in NM, but it will be one of the first cities seized by Russian special forces.

which leaves 2 sites.

explain to me this. if FedGov is too divided in fighting its own citizens, how will it coordinate the logistics of building more nuclear weapons between Kansas City, MO and Aiken, SC, when the interstate highways between those 2 cities have been seized by "moderate rebels"?

if you really don't think foreign governments like Russia and China won't intervene early on in the second American civil war, in order to secure the nuclear stockpile, then your other ideas about the revolution are equally invalid and ill-considered.

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That's a retarded, but reassuring pasta that's largely ahistorical.

Seems like it was constructed around an America of 20-25 years ago.

White peoples have a right to exist.

Vid related

Who do you expect will become those warlords?

Ah I see. I can agree on that point. All but a tiny minority of our people would ever break out of their daily routine unless they had a gun to their head.

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I doubt (((CNN))) would have a favourable view of White the resistance.

It is. It's also true.

> What is your opinion of the idea that if things begin to escalate in the manner you describe, that the (((media))) will switch their tune from one of riling up mad libshit hatred to one of reconciliation and unity?

I think it won't matter what tune the media sing as they're gunned down in their driveways or thrown off rooftops. Once the fire rises it will burn through the filth quickly. And the talking heads on the news are the most visible component of the (((Left))).

Trump is not Hitler and the US is not germany. He is legitimately working to restore some of the power and stability of the US and has not given any indication he is working to ensure future success by those of 'us'. So strike it from your mind until he joins us and our side. Such blind thinking will get you killed with thoughts of what 'should' be rather than what simply is. Hes a good guy. But hes not our war leader. He wants the US to survive as it is.

As far a who would act and how? I'll just revert to my true troll form and point and laugh. If you are not FBI cuck, you really need to rethink whom you are talking to. We are an board of peaceful anime loving autists. We have no insite into any plans and people whom would do anything IRL.

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Sure, when they have the will to fight. They do not. Go to your closest college campus, observe the whites (if you still see any that aren't women) and tell me that you'd have confidence in them. And not even that, but times have changed and the people have changed. Take some guy from the WW2 era. He's 19 years old, full of piss and vinegar. He quit school at 16 and has been working 10 hours a day on the farm with his dad, building character and getting in shape. Then he goes over to kill some of his long lost relatives in Europe for a few years and comes home. Exhausted, but he grew up with an ethic, that farm is better than a foxhole but if he had to he could probably go and grab his gun and a pack of smokes.

And now compare that to the average (white) kid today who has never had to lift anything heavier than his triple giga heart attack burger from McDonald's, spends most of his time between Fortnite, his iPad, Snapchat Netflix binges. Tell me I should have faith that even IF he could muster up some sort of fight that he can maintain it for longer than his premature porn induced ED afflicted boner.

yeah not yielding.

jews are already at war with you, actively attacking you, the question is when you wake up to this fact.

I dont even know why this question is relevant user and why you think Russia and China are important at all.

As far as I know russia and china have no bases close by. They will not be able to get any supplies to America at all (maybe Alaska will be sacrificed early).

Also the threat of global nuclear war. They wont be thinking about "securing stockpiles" because they dont want anyone with current ability to use them to think they are in the midst of invading and helping the other side.

They will support it via twitter like Q supports Iran take over … but it has to happen from withing lest the military reacts.

what the fuck are you talking about user? No one knows what happens when war breaks out. We cant predict the future in those details. Maybe it doesnt coordinate logistics … maybe it has some of the fucking smartest minds and best military equipment in the world to over come that hurdle. We are not the military user, are you assuming you know the answer?

Its just so simple to stop the US military user, you could do it in your sleep.

I sage you idiot

Trump will not form any paramilitaries because he is fundamentally a civnat boomer. He might be friendly to us on certain issues, but he is not Uncle Benny or Uncle Adolf. He believes in the System.

The increased surveillance state and militarization of law enforcement disagrees.

wat. I'm saying the ones who will fight will mostly die, and the ones who aren't are already bending over to take it up the ass already. I'm just giving a modern day answer to the question of "Where did all the real men go"?

>jews are already at war with you, actively attacking you, the question is when IF you wake up to this fact.

;^^^^^^)

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You think like I do.

I know tons of guys who lift, exercise, eat right, practice shooting, have read all kinds of stuff related to war and tactics and guerilla shit, lots who hunt. We have a generation of people who have had access to internet so they've read about all kinds of crazy shit. We've been desensitized to violence and unrest by various media. MMA makes boxing look like sissy shit. On top of that we have WAY more reasons to be angry than anybody from the 40's.

That same 19 year old grew up poor during the great depression on a diet of onions and dirt, probably never read a full book in his life, knew practically nothing outside of his farm or family trade, never heard anything louder than a rifle shot, probably never left his home town, etc. He's certainly never seen any real violence aside from a fistfight or his mom beheading a chicken. Yeah, there are a lot of lib faggots at colleges, so what? There's tons more that you never even see who are like you and me: ready to fucking go.

They'll get violent with each other and liberal whites in the cities and suburbs. Rural whites and whites in exurbs will be fine as the white cosmopolitan takes the majority of the beatings. Also, Pablo and Jamal aren't as tough as you think they are, since they rely on the state to protect them from whites.

The real goal is to seal the cities and starve them. The areas on the border will likely be lost, but Mexico and Canada will likely implode as well as the US economy collapses. Shit, Mexico is already in a state of civil war.

I have no illusions about Trump being a "secret crypto Nat-see"
I was speaking from a neutral perspecting. If Trump wanted to seize power or protect himself from plotters, this would have been a good idea.

yup.

So just like this board then

Oh I can:
Zig Forums= r/the_Donald
See, that wasn't very hard isnt it?

Nothing. Your average citizen is completely domesticated. If the government declared all whites enemies of the state and started rounding them up for slaughter, they would go willingly or hide.
The fighting genes have been completely bred out of the general populace. It's why when average joe is sent to fight in the military he gets PTSD. The warrior phenotype of the white race is extinct, leaving only the soy-sucking drones.

Who aren't on your side and are more diversified by the day. And again, back to my first post - I don't think anything will kick off until the demographics are such that whites are less than 50% of the nation. Once power is lost, I see now situation where it's given back and taking it back becomes even more of a steep climb.

That's great (I'm being genuine, for the record), however, that's not the norm. You know as well as I do that for every one white guy who might think or act even 50% the way that those people do, there are three who'd want them killed on the spot, and five who'd just be apathetic about it all.

Sure but I'm not talking about anger. I'm talking about an ethic, something that you're moulded by (>inb4 Bane memes). I'm talking about being prepared to live and act like everything is shit, not comforted by our modern day luxuries, etc. "Grit" if you will. I don't have any faith in the masses at large to be prepared or willing to step into that reality to save themselves. They don't have meaning; a big part of this is the death of religion (I'm not religious myself even and I'm not shilling for it but it is a fact that religion plays a major role in societal cohesiveness and a willingness to preserve it). It's a big reason why Islam is such a threat; say what you will about those 85 IQ dunces but a lot of them are willing to strap a bomb to their chests because Allah will suck them off in the end.

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Are they legit ? I'm from France and I was asking myself the same question, at least you got weapons.

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Check the date nigger

It's heading that way, for sure. With each passing day, more powerful leftists call for harassment and violence against conservatives and the current administration. Comments from celebrities and politicians, such as Colbert's "bonesaw" remarks or Low IQ Maxine's "God is on our side" statements are proof of that.

What triggers civil war? Many specific things could cause it, such as genuine attempts to repeal the 2nd Amendment, but ultimately, it's when enough of the general public feels sufficiently threatened by the government's actions, realizing that there is simply no other recourse, given the fact that the government simply cannot do its job and protect its citizens. The longer all of this goes on, the more divided the left and right become; it's especially dangerous for the left because of the rhetoric and the increasing levels of violence, which pushes more fence-sitters and moderates firmly towards the right and simultaneously shrinks the left down as they grow more extreme.

The meme that the left eats itself? It's not a meme or a joke; it's very real, and it's happening more and more every day. Every time someone calls for harassment, every time someone prioritizes an illegal or criminal over a citizen, every time a piece of evidence comes out proving more and more that Hillary and the Democrats are beyond corrupt, it pushes more people out who question the ethics, legality, and validity of the attacks, eventually proselytizing more of those former leftists to the conservative side and showing them that yes, in fact, some conservatives are reasonable fucking people who just want to live their lives in peace.

All of that said, what is happening in America today is very simple. The people in power think they're better than everybody else. Hollyjew, Congress, major CEOs, banks, and above; they all think they're better than us, that we're simply uninformed, unenlightened back-woods hicks that don't know no better because we wanted to vote for a dangerous demagogue like Donald Trump. Conservatives, moderates, and even many liberals are quickly beginning to realize that the government is losing its ability to govern because the two sides are simply fighting without listening to the will of the people, determined to win at all costs.

'''The socio-political path America is treading down now cannot be stopped unless one side finally steps up to the table, lays their cards down, and agrees to negotiate for the betterment of the country and its people. When that happens, they lose all political clout, all bargaining chips, and all respect from their voter base.

That is it. That's all that can stop the storm that is coming. If Trump gets impeached, all he needs to do is fight it and people will be in the streets demanding blood. If the ultimate smoking gun is released to the public showing that the government is corrupt beyond reason, people will be in the streets with torches and pitchforks. If neither of those happens, and we simply continue with the stalemate we're at now, the left is going to get more and more violent until people die.

Now, we may not even get to civil war. It could very well lead to martial law and military tribunals after the national guard is tasked to dispatch of domestic political terrorists. Either way it goes, World War III is likely to happen shortly after, solely because everyone is so interconnected; if civil war happens and citizens resist the government, every country out there is going to want a piece of the pie, but if we go the route of martial law, then (((people))) will actively try to stop it with war. Europe is supposedly reconsidering their allied status with America given current events, so think on that a second.

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Better to face the facts and come up with a better solution than sit around waiting for a fantasy before finally getting genocided for real.
You guys had a good idea once of starting your own country, either by land purchases or connecting together old oil rigs that have been retired.
The latter idea is probably most practical as any country offering you land to make sovereign is probably planning on taking your money and then killing you all.

NO UR RETARDED

Stupid kikes. Not even trying.

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It's hard to imagine, but CNN would become even less relevant than now

A civil war in America probably won't happen. The catalyst being racial tension will be unlikely due to the saturation of immigrants already holding a majority in certain areas. Some places in SW America are lost short of a hard reconquering of America.

And my opinion is the catalyst for violence will come from the raising of interest rates that will decrease asset values and basically rob Americans of their supposed net worth. Your boomer parents may be living with you or vice versa in ten years.

In many places, many blacks and whites get along well enough that a civil war would not be fought on racial lines. No matter how much you sit and read people LARP, many blacks and whites go about their days without clashing.

Years ago I thought this economy was headed for a crash landing. But with Trump's sensible economic policies, and cutting costs, lowering the trade deficit, we are setting the stage for a soft landing of this National Debt. We do have a Goy at the head of the Federal Reserve, and that could be enough to prevent a rogue Jew investment bank trying to crash the economy.

I can't help but think that the pieces are falling in our favor. Without being too optimistic, I do FEEL that Trump's motives are pure that he wants to make America better. So I think it is good that this man employs tens of thousands of employees and he is probably VERY intimately aware of what and why healthcare costs are increasing. He knows the whys and he knows why it is inefficient as he himself probably wants a way to make that cost cheaper for himself. I am sure we are all fooling ourselves that he is unaware of Jewish power. I just can't see Trump riding out this presidency to mediocrity. He has done well so far, but is Trump really going to roll over?

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Kek

Not gonna happen

See >11894771

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TEST

It's not that I believe them to be tougher, it's that I believe them, on average to be more willing to embrace savagery. And on top of that, as I've said, they, on average, haven't had it as good (I don't mean muh oppression, I mean they're not the ones arguing on the internet about Star Wars or never being let outside by their overbearing single career woman mothers, etc.) I think when you have it good you're far more likely to try to placate at all costs - at least that's what's been going on for a very long time. That's all white flight is in the end. Well now there's nowhere to go.

Also yes, Canada would be boned. A huge portion of the population (I want to say like 1/7 of the entire country's population) is in the Toronto area and that would get sticky quickly. I think that this would exacerbate the issue in an American civil war though because the white liberals would flee there, the pets would follow and be granted asylum, then if Canada cut off migrants they'd have to deal with repelling by force which they can't do (because America is already their army). Meanwhile the middle America/southern whites get cut off and surrounded.

On the first point: don't try to guess how many of us there are; consider how many whites voted for trump for instance.

On the second point, yes I agree most of our generation would have a very hard time without their bread and circuses, but they are willing to work 2 or 3 shitty jobs/70 hour weeks and live in expensive shitty apartments. *I* won't do that (but then I don't like the bread and circuses). That's grit, shown differently.

Just don't be so quick to write off the majority of your countrymen.

Kek

Not gonna happen

See

KYS kike

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the UN would wait to "help the US rebuild" AFTER proxy wars were fought in America and the populace had killed most of itself off, at that point the UN blue helmets clean up after the several years of proxy created violence and organic internal violence had taken it;s toll

Non-hispanic whites are already a minority you boomer faggot.

I have many times, that's why I've come to my conclusions. He barely won (I don't care about illegal votes as an argument as to why it was so close - all this does is show how fucked things truly are if there in fact were a few million). As I said in one of my posts, white are, and by extension, many Trump voters are fucking oooold. Look at the Boomers who make up a big portion of the US population (and if you want to expand, many other white western countries). The Boomers are really beginning with their great die off. Boomers are mostly white in these nations and they didn't have a ton of kids, and those kids were softer (and they didn't have kids themselves).

I really worry about, as I mentioned earlier, the mindset, too. So many people have zero purpose. Kids are parasites, god is dead, fucking the same person for more than a a year is for retards when Tinder exists, and we need diversity because without it we wouldn't have sushi (and omg I loooove sushi!) That's so much of the mindset with people. I just cannot fathom the idea of them putting up or even engaging in a fight for themselves.

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The US Navy would probably object to foreign armies invading.
They wouldn't have much else to do.

The world you see is not the world I see.
I see the fire rising all over.
I see young White men gradually waking up from their stupor and looking around.
And they don't like what they see.
I am one of them.
No matter how "soft" the White men of today have become, they are still WHITE MEN.
Their blood is the blood of heroes.
Their ancestors CONQUERED THE WORLD.
They have just forgotten who they are.
We are reminding them.
With redpills.

Furthermore, gas yourself.
Your blackpill concern shilling means nothing.
We will not surrender.
We will not give up.
We will not be discouraged.
We will stop the ongoing genocide of White people.
We will remove ZOG.
We will reestablish White homelands.
And MILLIONS will join us because the only alternative is brown favela shithole world where everything of any value is gone.

Give up if you want
We aren't going to.

This.

Lots of blackpillers in this thread.
FUD
FEAR
UNCERTAINTY
DOUBT
Yuri Bezmenoz called it "demoralization."
Thing is shills, we have already been through the standard demoralization program.
Yet we are here.

Some agreement.
But, the left is simply WRONG.
There is no middle ground when the opposition is advocating for White genocide, marxism, degeneracy in all its forms, and radical feminism.
There can be no compromise with demons.
Furthermore, NO ONE except maybe Mexico will invade the USA.
The US navy would probably prevent it.
The supply lines would be a nightmare.
Also, the US would rapidly arm itself into the most powerful army the world has ever seen.
What they would do is possibly invade their neighbors.

We are not giving up our countries.
HELL NO.
This is OUR land.
This is the land of OUR PEOPLE.

Just like Rhodesia, right?
Where those MIGHTY BLACK MEN utterly destroyed those wimpy Whites, right?
It's not like the Whites won over and over despite MASSIVE odds against them, right?
Pathetic shilling.

They'll have a hard time "rebuilding" when the millions of hardened White veterans tell them to fuck off.

You're desperate flailing means nothing.
Whites are waking up.
The fire rises.

I can't prove it, but I think those people are a vocal minority. Good point with the old boomers though, I tend to forget about that.

Best post in the thread. Demoralization cunts need to kill themselves before I can get my hands on them.

I don't think they're a minority (as in: I think a large portion of people think these things now but just aren't autistic like the ones you'd see at a women's march or "IMBEACH DROZMPF 2018!!!" rally). Everything they've been told is: women need to have careers, marrying before you're 40 is retarded because life really can be like like Sex in the City, kids are too expensive (because as we all know, your kid can't survive without an iPad at age six), etc. And then of course the men have these same worries (not the Sex in the City part) except add on the fear that some cunt is going to divorce rape you and/or cuck you because his girl gets a dozen dicks shoved in her virtual face ever day on her social media.

And yes, a lot of people seem to forget how big of a block Boomers are. I often get called a shill when I point out this fact. Like the faggot above you who I won't give a (You) to.

I never sad civil war would ever be a realistic option for the government. If you read my post, you'd see that I'm talking about the escalating mindset of our society.

Think about it for two seconds. What the fuck happens if, for argument's sake, Donald Trump IS impeached? We live in a society where a significant number of people simply don't have faith in Congress, the intelligence agencies, and numerous powerful people in key positions all throughout the country, whether those be government, business, finance, or media. We're already at the point where conservatives know that the left is just talking down to them and treating them like lesser beings.

When questioned, some on the left claim that they would try to "welcome the right" back into the discussion so they can perhaps have a more "enlightened" approach, while others have not been asked or not answered. Given the left's propensity for disrespectful debate in bad faith, we can already see a significant number of conservatives being pissed off at the left solely for disrespecting their opinions and political choices as buzzword #843; if Trump were to be impeached, conservatives would get a non-stop stream of finger-pointing, laughing, and screeching about why it's a good thing that the government took down the bad orange sexual predator-in-chief before he could hit the shiny, candy-like button. It will be enough to make conservatives blow their top, and I'm certain that absolutely NOBODY in the upper echelons of power are expecting it.

All in all, citizens will act when they feel sufficiently threatened. If the time comes where people will legitimately either die or be openly oppressed by their government, then people will act, and it will be very bloody and violent. You do not fuck with the smiling time bomb who has been sitting here taking your shit for the past 40 years because even though things are bad, they could always be worse; the kindest person you've ever met could quickly become your worst nightmare if you threaten him enough.

I know. You're preaching to the choir. It's simply where we are right now; either Trump gets impeached and simply rolls over and accepts it, or the Democrats give up their plans and let Trump make America great again. Without either of those, the political divide in this country cannot heal because both sides think they're right and they are slowly becoming less and less willing to compromise.

Neither of those will ever come to pass. As wrong as the left is, the Democrats are quickly learning that their very existence hangs in the balance, and to compromise or back down is nothing less than death, either from their own base eating them alive or from the judicial system being stacked against them. I mean, come on, they thought Hillary was going to win. Their hubris knows no bounds.

Triumphant pride precipitates a dizzying fall. Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

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20 years from now Ill be in my 50's, user, I know men in their 70's(granted they are ex special forces veterans) who kept physically and mentally fit who can easily drop you with just their hands. You won't be "too old" to fight unless you don't take care of yourself.

the beaner majority will start the civil war by launching a communist revolution literally the next time anything goes wrong. Stock market crash? The beaners will revolt. Oil shock? The beaners will revolt.

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Because you know you are not of the warrior phenotype and would lose by choking to death on my BBC :^)

This is why shitskins will get massacred in a real war situation.

You're a fucking moron and you probably haven't even been to burgerland. Kill yourself since you're not being of use actively improving the situation here for your entire life like I have.

Damn, with arguments like those you must be right.

Never happen, stop having a fantasy moment. Can't have a civil war when there are no ties that bind anyone.

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