Hi, former atheist here. Was raised atheistic but parents sent me to Catholic school, never took it seriously. Started coming around recently. Have a prayer book and rosary now and I say prayers now. Also managed to convince a girl to try it and she transformed. Im 24.
Try it out. Read C.S. Lewis and G.K. Chesterton. You may be surprised you have something you never noticed was missing.
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Into what?
Into a righteous Christian woman.
What is your stance on the Pope's refugees policy?
Rhetorical question. You can't answer that.
many Catholics quite dislike the pope
in fact, many of them think hes the anti-pope
do you actually get on your knees when you worship that gay ass looking kike?
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As the extreme nature of Nazi racial antisemitism became obvious, and as Mussolini in the late 1930s began imitating Hitler's anti-Jewish race laws in Italy, Pius XI was perturbed. In the 1930s, he urged Mussolini to ask Hitler to restrain the anti-Semitic actions taking place in Germany.[48] When the newly installed Nazi Government began to instigate its program of antisemitism, Pope Pius ordered the Papal Nuncio in Berlin, Cesare Orsenigo, to "look into whether and how it may be possible to become involved" in their aid. Orsenigo proved a poor instrument in this regard, concerned more with the anti-church policies of the Nazis and how these might effect German Catholics, than with taking action to help German Jews.[49]
Following the Anschluss and the extension of antisemitic laws in Germany, Jewish refugees sought sanctuary outside the Reich. In Rome, Pius XI told a group of Belgian pilgrims on 6 September 1938, that it was not possible for Christians to participate in anti-Semitism:"[54] "Mark well that in the Catholic Mass, Abraham is our Patriarch and forefather. Anti-Semitism is incompatible with the lofty thought which that fact expresses. It is a movement with which we Christians can have nothing to do. No, no, I say to you it is impossible for a Christian to take part in anti-Semitism. It is inadmissible. Through Christ and in Christ we are the spiritual progeny of Abraham. Spiritually, we [Christians] are all Semites"[55]
On 11 November 1938, following Kristallnacht, Pope Pius XI joined Western leaders in condemning the pogrom. In response, the Nazis organised mass demonstrations against Catholics and Jews in Munich, and the Bavarian Gauleiter Adolf Wagner declared before 5,000 protesters: "Every utterance the Pope makes in Rome is an incitement of the Jews throughout the world to agitate against Germany".[56] On 21 November, in an address to the world's Catholics, the Pope rejected the Nazi claim of racial superiority, and insisted instead that there was only a single human race. Robert Ley, the Nazi Minister of Labour declared the following day in Vienna: "No compassion will be tolerated for the Jews. We deny the Pope's statement that there is but one human race. The Jews are parasites."
In April 2009, Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin publicly warned all Irish Catholics to brace themselves for the publication of the Ryan Report in May. This was a monumental investigation, named after Chairperson Judge Sean Ryan, begun in 1999 and concluded ten years later. Entitled ‘The Report of the Commission on Child Sexual Abuse’, it dealt in great detail within its 2,600 pages with clerical abuse reaching back to before the Second World War. The Commission’s brief was to investigate all forms of child abuse in Irish institutions for children. The majority of allegations it investigated focused upon the system operated in some sixty residential ‘Reformatory and Industrial Schools’ operated by Catholic Church Orders, more often than not run by the Christian Brothers.
The report should be made compulsory reading for the wide range of apologists not only for the current Pope, it is a truly shocking indictment. The report establishes that the system within these schools treated children ‘like prison inmates and slaves’ devoid of any legal rights. The report identified sub-human behaviour that repeatedly records beatings and rapes, subjection to naked beatings in public, being forced to perform oral sex, and even beatings after failed rape attempts by Christian Brothers.
Adjectives including ‘systemic’, ‘pervasive’, ‘chronic’, ‘excessive’, ‘arbitrary’ and ‘endemic’ are used by the Commission to describe the indescribable. Those apologists will search in vain for evidence that what occurred was perpetrated by a very small minority, although even one perverted degenerate would be one too many. It is clear from the details contained within this document that we are confronted with a widespread evil that went on year after year, decade after decade.
Not much comfort for the apologists is to be found in those conclusions. Indeed, as can be seen, although the area of investigations differed vastly from Justice Ryan’s epic investigation of industrial schools and orphanages, the evidence and the conclusions to be drawn from the respective reports have an overwhelming symmetry. As for the ‘learning curve’ pleading of ignorance, Archbishop McQuaid was dealing with such cases in the 1950s and 1960s. There have been bishops all over the world who have used this defence during the past thirty years. Any adult male – be he a bishop or a man in any other walk of life – who did not know long before this scandal became public knowledge that grown men having sex with children is wrong and insidiously harmful to children is either an idiot or a liar or both.
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Non Angli, sed angeli – "They are not Angles, but angels". Aphorism, summarizing words reported to have been spoken by Gregory when he first encountered pale-skinned English boys at a slave market, sparking his dispatch of St. Augustine of Canterbury to England to convert the English, according to Bede.[76]
care to explain this?
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Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God. For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, so that the promises made to the patriarchs might be confirmed and, moreover, that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy. As it is written:
“Therefore I will praise you among the Gentiles;
I will sing the praises of your name.”
Again, it says,
“Rejoice, you Gentiles, with his people.”
And again,
“Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles;
let all the peoples extol him.”
And again, Isaiah says,
“The Root of Jesse will spring up,
one who will arise to rule over the nations;
in him the Gentiles will hope.”
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For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.
Blasphemy.
the christian idea of salvation through jesus christ alone simultaneously denies the importance of race, sexual dichotomy, intelligence, physical health, aptitude, "virtue morality", and everything else that is not jesus christ/trinity.
europe largely did pretty well because europeans largely ignored those poisonous & evil christian ideas in favor of native european ideas, but advances in technology like the printing press resulted in the broader dissemination of these evil christian ideas, and that - combined with the disastrous results of World War II (reminder: Hitler persecuted Christianity) - led to present-day "late stage" christianity in society where racism is a sin and christian priests marry interracial couples in christian churches.
among other things, interracial cuckoldry is evil and your christian faith cannot change that.
Zig Forums.
So pedophilia was going on waaay back then too? Were the so-called pagans aware of Church pederasty of their boys? It would be worth looking into if that were another reason why they were so viciously opposed to Catholic encroachment.
Low quality b8, m8.
Sage and report.
Sage and report. Unless you have important arguments to make this is just shilling.
All you've said basically boils down to
Which you have no proofs for other than a non-verifiable personal single-instance example - weak bait, my man.
Still looking for a non-compromised religion. NSDAP's positive chirsitianity comes close, but how many other people are you goiing to find: it defeats the whole purpose of having a religion to begin with.
The fact there's a pope and people follow him is indeed, blasphemous.
Then you're still not a Christian
kill yourself, (((shitstain)))
daily reminder that the only good christcuck is a dead christcuck
It's pretty damn cheap, even for JIDF.
Sage! This is a shill thread, sage it!
If we had Christian nations they would both be put to death.
or you can just put them to death because it's objectively the right thing to do instead of having to reference the ramblings of some jewish rabbi that lived 2000 years ago you fucking faggot, kill yourself
Most obvious coordinated Christian/Atheist/Pagan D&C I've seen in some time.
Enjoy the gas chamber, (((user))).
christianity has nothing to do with Zig Forums, kys "everyone that disgrees with me is muh D&Ckikeshill" brainlet
what is your explanation for the fall of rome & the byzantine empire & constantinople?
"rome & byzantium did not fall because they were christian, they fell because they were NOT CHRISTIAN ENOUGH!"
pretty sure plenty of communists said something similar about communism
All religions are false and there is no god.
vs
Out of all the religions, one might be true because I believe in it, and only my god is real, and all the other ones that people believe in just as much as I do are false.
Durrrp:
tl;dr: op is in a cult, and is retarded.
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oh look another shitty christcuck slide thread
i want Zig Forums to fuck off immediately
I hope they all get sodomized by rapefugees, fucking brainwashed retards pushing their kike cuckfaggotry here constantly
It is mystifying therefore that the late Karol Wojtyla dismissed the clerical abuse of children as ‘an American problem’. Anyone who shares that level of self-delusion and therefore concludes, for example, that what confronted the Ryan Commission was first ‘an Irish problem’ should reflect that wherever the Christian Brothers went – be it Canada, Australia or elsewhere – they brought with them their version of Christianity, which included systematic brutality. The report contains forty-three conclusions and twenty recommendations. The former include:
Overall: physical and emotional abuse and neglect were features of the institutions. Sexual abuse occurred in many of them, particularly boys’ institutions. Schools were run in a severe regimented manner that imposed unreasonable and oppressive discipline on children and even on staff.
Physical abuse: the Reformatory and Industrial Schools depended on rigid control by means of severe corporal punishment and fear of such punishment, which permeated more of the institutions and most of those run for boys. Children lived with the daily terror of not knowing where the next beating was coming from.
Sexual abuse: sexual abuse was endemic in boys’ institutions. The schools investigated revealed a substantial level of sexual abuse of boys in care that extended from improper touching and fondling to rape with violence. Perpetrators of abuse were able to operate undetected for long periods at the core of institutions.
I'm concerned, man. Christianity is important, but I'm no fan of Catholicism. Before you get bogged down in tradition, rituals, justifications and so on. Take time to read the Bible for real. I think some of the Catholic teachings aren't biblical, but they merely use the Bible to try to justify those teachings. Don't be deceived.
For example, some will tell you that Mary was without sin. That's ridiculous. She's just human. ALL have sinned, except Jesus. Matthew 23:9 also clearly tells us not to call men "father". Basically, don't raise one person above another. The pope is not a special person, and yet people refer to him as "his holiness" and "father" and so on. Exactly what we were told not to do. He's exalted, and that's wrong. All glory belongs to God. We're specifically saved by faith, not works, so that no one can boast about it. Salvation is a gift from God. It's nothing we do. Don't glorify man.
TAke your semitic cucked faggot worshiping ass the fuck back to wherever you wandered in from faggot triple nigger
PRAISE KEK
The Eucharist or Jesus sacrament is literally SPIRIT COOKING and ritual canibalism
Take this bread as flesh
Take this wine as blood
Nope no thanks I'll fucking pass
That has nothing to do with what I posted.
Also, while there's still a lot to learn, the direction is clear. I asked God for forgiveness, and God saved me, and while it wasn't much outwardly, it was clear that a miracle had happened inside of me. I was completely changed spiritually. It was just as it was described in the Bible, except I didn't even know what I was supposed to expect from it until later. In fact, I wasn't very expectant at all. I'd asked for forgiveness before, and nothing apparent happened. This particular time though, I meant it quite sincerely. So, since God saved me, and since I'm grateful for that gift he's given me, I plan on serving him as much as I can for as long as I can. Where that'll take me is yet to be seen, but I trust God. The truth will never disprove God, because God is the truth.
Now, if you're telling me the truth, I have no reason to be biased against whatever it may be. No matter what it is, if it's the truth, it will only help me understand God better, but you're going to have to give me a more solid reason to believe what you just said. Making comparisons isn't evidence.
One thing that Christians don't understand—argumentation. I don't mean to say that they can't argue, or argue well, but that at the end of the day they can only pressure you into their cult through emotion. This is why they target the poor and the needy and the divorced and hookers and so on. Those that need some emotional sturdiness in their lives. For those of us with reasoned arguments against Christianity, proselytism will never work for the same reason that Jewish lies will never work on us. JIDF thinks that if they come here and spam photos of oven and emaciated corpses that suddenly we'll start believing in the Holocaust again. They, like Christians, don't seem to grasp that once someone *knows* something, they can't unknow it. One cannot simply wish away the philosophic arguments that lead one to apostasy.
When people call Christianity a cult, they aren't just being meanypoopoohead fedora tippers. They mean that the behavior of Christians—the most anti-Semitic of whom seem to forget that they worship Yeshua bar Yosef, a Galilean Pharisaic rabbi of the School of Hillel alongside his 'father' the one and the only Yahweh of the Jews—mirrors that of other cults.
this
Boring. You guys really need to change the playbook.
Factually wrong. Christian apologetics are philosphically very sophisticated, for the simple reason of them having confronted and debated all imaginable kinds of cults, sects and ideologies over the centuries. It's impossible for 99.9% of the broad public, including Zig Forums, to out-argue even an average Catholic or Orthodox theologian (although Catholicism has some very serious foundational errors which ultimately led to them being corrupted). It's just that the type of rhetoric has to be tailored to the target audience, which is of course an old principle of classical rhetorics. Hence the use of imagery, emotionality, music, clothes etc. for the masses.
Yawn. Always the same old bullshit. I expect much more of you if you want to seriously debate Christianity.
looks like you missed a lot of content in this thread, including
also, care to explain this?
christian apologists are such "good debaters" that they burned all the copies of their opponents' books!
because christian arguments are really good, that is why christians burned anti-christian books!
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The True Word (or Discourse, Account, Doctrine; Greek: Λόγος Ἀληθής, Logos Alēthēs) is a lost treatise in which the ancient Greek philosopher Celsus addressed many principal points of Early Christianity and refuted or argued against their validity. In The True Word, Celsus attacked Christianity in three ways; by refuting its philosophical claims, by marking it as a phenomenon associated with the uneducated and lower class, and by cautioning his audience that it was a danger to the Roman Empire. All information concerning the work exists only in the extensive quotations from it in the Contra Celsum ("Against Celsus") written some seventy years later by the Christian Origen.
Not one Catholic priest has been excommunicated for child rape. On the other hand a Catholic nurse assisted in an abortion to literally save the woman's life. She was excommunicated within one week.