Why would anyone want their money, nay, their labor spent on sending something to space if they are not going to get something back from it?
They wouldn't.
SpaceX, and private space companies have an incentive to go to Space, which is profit, which is also the incentive to the employees, as they get paid. If the company does not make money, they do not get paid.
However, there is no such deal under a nationalized space program. What does the worker get out of sending something into space? Nothing.
Copapasta'd from (you)r statism thread: First, without the space race, nearly all new technology since WWII wouldn't exist. Second, if we don't establish permanent human habitation both extraterrestrially (and eventually extrastellar), we will go extinct as the result of a catastrophe or the sun going red giant and sterilizing earth's biosphere. Third, if humanity fails to pursue a lofty goal such as space colonization, the human soul itself will be smothered by crushing ennui and autistic purposelessness.
Most of which was developed by American private companies, there were few, soviet innovations. It is true what will happen to the sun, in about 5 billion years, it is very unlikely that human civilization would even be around to see such a period. A worker is not going to work on something that will not affect him at all - nor his children - nor any one in his foreseeable future. It would be slave labour for reasons of "we want to explore space". Again, this does not give any incentive for the worker to work 40 hours per week.
Brody Cox
Developed by a combination of public money and private companies, the takeaway being that capital can and does drive technological innovation provided that profitability is high and the economy is stable, as it was after the war. An incredibly complex and resource-intensive task that will not benefit 99.9% of Earth's existing population; depending on your interpretation of climate change human extinction is either so far in the future as to not be an issue, or so close to happening that any attempt at 'preserving the species' in space wouldn't happen in time anyways. Accept the Lord Jesus Christ into your heart, faggot.
Andrew Brown
You get it. There is no motivation at all, for anyone to work in a factory to build a rocket unless there is an incentive - which there is none under a communist regime.
Carter James
Knowledge is worthy of pursuit for its own sake. In fact, pursuit of profit is in conflict of pursuit of knowledge. Not all good things are profitable. Not all large scale projects worth doing have immediate or even near term profit incentives. Space exploration is a public good. Time and again, it has been demonstrated that public goods are poorly served by markets. Markets exist solely to generate profit for the trader with the most leverage. If I have leverage over you in a contractual arrangement, it matters little to me what your needs or desires are. As soon as those needs or desires conflict with my profit motive, I will stop providing for them. The profit I generate off of you gives me more leverage, and the more leverage I have over you, the less likely your needs and desires comport with my ability to profit off of you.
The money for private space travel still comes from the same source, taxpayer money. Now, however, private parties are taking a cut and there is less public accountability. It's just more grift coupled with less efficiency, like privatization always is.
John Jackson
spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/tech_benefits.html Being anti-space is incredibly dumb. NASA is 0.01% of America’s budget, but has done more good for all of humanity than any other american government program.
Gabriel Howard
Meme. There is no such thing as a private space industry, since the sole "customer" in the entire "industry" has always been, is, and will for the foreseeable future always be, the government. Also, let's not forget that aside from the massive amount of science done by government labs (JPL, Los Alamos, etc.), public researchers (universities, etc.), most of these "private companies" originated as privatized spinoffs of preexisting public entities. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russian_innovation#1950s Why not just kill yourself right now and get it over with, given that attitude? Think of the reason people worked for generations on pyramids, cathedrals, and every other megaproject. Think of why people raise children, write poetry, why people get out of bed in the morning. What makes us human. Yes, there are class demands historically, and instincts for self preservation, but there is also something more.
Functional people desire a legacy, and working on a legacy fills one's heart with meaning.
No. Capital is directed toward "blue sky" science when those in control of it consciously decide to do so. Are we individuals, families, societies, memeplexes? Depending on your definition of humanity, space exploration will benefit 100% of Earth's existing population. There is no interpretation of AGW that could ever render humanity extinct. Even nuclear war couldn't do that. Lame, inspiring enough, suffering/death cult overtones, would not dedicate life, 0/10.
Pretty poor reasoning user. No one said they were. So by your own admission they all have a profit incentive, which a nationalized project does not. No one has said it is not. Disagree, time and again it has been demonstrated that government spending is poorly managed and wasteful. NASA pays for SpaceX because they can do it cheaper than NASA can do it themselves. No, they are not to underfunded to do this themselves NASA pisses away billions of dollars of funding on launch towers that lean, on projects that get cancelled after they have just been completed and tested.
>Meme This is some big brained shit right here.
Adrian Thompson
Gee, I wonder why? >paying a company to do something cheaper than you can do itthat funnels profits to porky instead of keeping the money yourself is a meme not to mention the little fact that such NASA activity was funneled through similar single-customer contractors for decades before, so most of the hype over the likes of SpaceX and Bigelow is just porky vs. porky against the likes of Lockheed or Northrop. Ah, question answered.
Basically every single instance of privatization in history serves the sole purpose of shifting profit-free public activity to profit embezzling private porkies, especially in natural monopolies like space, military, and utilities.
